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How many have been modified to simulate automatic fire?

ive seen people pull the trigger fast enough to average 300rpm on a semi
what is a bumpfire stock, 450?

i think the biggest problem is that some of those arguing the loudest are the least informed as to what they are even talking about

(a general statement, not directed at you delta)

I know what you're saying.
And I don't have a horse in this race: I don't own guns. I've only shot them once in my adult life (thanks Ed!).

But just because dela1 can't "see the good" in owning a semi automatic rifle doesn't mean it should be illegal.

What's next?
You don't "see the good" in owning more than 2 rifles?
Or in having more than a few hundred rounds?
Hell, maybe you won't "see the good" in owning a car that goes faster than the speed limit.

I hate the argument that we can't give an inch lest we're prepared to give up the proverbial mile. But in this instance that's precisely what we have to be concerned with.
Because what's next?

Of course we have to believe that no one that we encounter during our daily travels is the next mass murderer. To think otherwise would turn us all into hermits...or gun-packing, kevlar wearing paranoics...

Most of the neighbors I know are good people... many killers had those reputations. I think there is nothing we can do to prevent any of our neighbors from thinking of going on a killing spree. I think we are likely to see an increase in mass shootings due to the social unrest and intolerance among us and anxieties that afflict a lot of people in America. And there are more of us, adding to the pressures...

If we can limit the lethality of the standard weapons available, that increases the probability of fewer casualties when these incidents happen, and that a potential victim can protect himself.

As for getting people to get rid of their V-8's...that is coming as new technology shifts away from internal combustion engines...you may have heard about this...something about global warming and such...

You seriously don't know that it's against the law to do that??

I think we need to keep Delta.. Apparently he makes a mean fish taco...

The better question would be... A) how many assault rifles are legally owned? B) how man people have modified them... and then C) how many people have used them to maim and kill.

Answer: A) millions B) probably a few thousand C) a handful over the last 100 years

So... a fraction of a percent. And the libs think we need to confiscate them all.

They also like to use these types of words to sensationalize the discussion and for the ignorant ( not meaning you ) to parrot.
A rifle is a rifle is a rifle.....what it's made of, what color it is and how long the barrel is insignificant

Very Very True


What is all boils down to is knowledge, Knowing how to use it and how to properly execute

One: you give me a standard deer hunting riffle with a scope and I would bet that I could have done way more damage than the dumb ass did with his little full auto and also had a better probability of getting away.

It was said at one point a question if there was military background due to how he was controlling the burst of a full auto. I call BS and here is why. Any one that has ever shot a full auto knows the gun rises. To stay on target or even round about pointing in the general direction of a target you have to burst unless you are just doing a spray and pray. Two: His muzzle flash was seen by many stupid mistake. Any one with any decent knowledge would know how to hide a muzzle flash especially when shooting at any distance. Three: Even on the video recordings you could hear the report of his the rifle. Stupid Stupid Mistake.

With a standard legal non modified bolt action deer rifle you can shoot and hit a target at very long range very accurately if you know how. A 7mm bolt action Remington is what I used to win 1000 yard long range tournaments. At 1000 yards you do not hear the report of the rifle. If you where to be standing near the target all you would hear is metal hitting meat and at a concert unless you had the ears of a dog you would not hear that. Last with every one watching the concert start from the back of the pack and work your way forwards. No one notices people behind them falling to the ground. Whole squads have been taken out this way in just using the sound of a stream they was crossing, They could not hear the report of the rifle, The guy in the back drops and then the next and next so on and so forth. This is with a bolt action rifle. The whole squad wiped out before they got across the stream and none of them even knew they was getting shot at until the last one noticed his whole squad was dead and by that time pop he was to.

So again its not the type of rifle used. It is the person using it. If I was going to do such, I would leave the assault rifle as a fall back for CC. I would take the bolt action out for most lethal damage and also for the most length of time of being able to take many more kills with out being seen or noticed.

As TMCTLT says they like to use words like ASSAULT its a scare tactic. It don't matter if it is an assault rifle or a single shot bolt action. It does not deplete the amount of victims. In the proper hands and when I say proper hands I mean just a little common sense and a tiny bit of knowledge a single shot bolt action could have not only taken out more people but increased the odds of the shooter getting away.

Just my honest opinion from my own experience take it as you will

Zappa hit it dead on for sure.

Hummm

Ahh hell I wouldnt know how to act with you gone Delta Besides you dont have to say it we already know that is true lmaooo.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Our generals are liberals? Who'd a thunk it.

tell me more about these tacos

Stay?
Hell, you'll be promoted to Grand Poobah.

Ironic, isn't it?

you get me, really get me


Frankie Fields

People who eat lots of spinach are the most prone to irony...

You might well have asked if I would have preferred that the people died from a small minded conservative.
(Oddly this might have been the case).


But back at it - Don’t hide behind the flag with “your rights”. This is public safety, and if not wearing seat belts or not being able to buy a machine robs you of “freedom” than sux it up.

This keeps sounding like you guys whining “mommy won’t let me play with matches” - well guess what, maybe you shouldn’t.

If it seems simple minded consider the audience. Many here argue that alll gun regulation deprives them of their freedom.

My point is that we have these laws for good reason and where these military grade capable weapons and accessories are concerned it seems obvious that we need better regulation.

Now for the conservative crowd that interpreted the above statement as “confiscate all weapons”, or oh so cleverly see it as “only the first step in taking our weapons and making all Russian slaves”, well - there is no reasoning with the unreasonable.

I'm happy with existing laws.. they aren't depriving me of anything I want.. if I really wanted a bump-stock I'd have one... If they take them off the shelves and I decide I want one I'll still get one..

I heard he did that after he saw those pictures of him: 1) his head w with a rifle-scope cross hair super-imposed over it, 2) a mannequin looking like him hanging from a tree with a noose around his neck...

How many people would speed if we didn't have speed limits? Admit it... you drive 5, 10 miles over the limit because you don't want to stand out and get pulled over, right? Just like almost everyone else. Except that one lunatic who drives 145 once in a while because his car will do it.

So what do we do about that guy? He gets ticketed. He gets his license suspended. We have measures in place. What's to prevent the next crazy driver?

Nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY

Yeah.
You have a knee jerk reaction to a terrible tragedy and I'm the one whining.

Not to worry, though. In a week or so you'll see something else shiny and your attention will be diverted. Your faux outrage dujour will end with some harsh words on a cigar forum. Meanwhile you won't have written your congressman. You won't have investigated a reasonable solution. But you WILL point fingers at every opportunity you get.