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Punching Nazis....
victor809 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Maybe I was raised differently, but I always believed there were certain people it was considered "appropriate" and "pro-american" to punch.... Nazis... child molesters... the homeless (ok, the last one is a joke because I know one of you azzholes would say it anyway). Sure, if you punch a nazi or a child molester it's still legally wrong and you should accept legal ramifications, but morally you're justified. because they're nazis. I mean, they were our last great unequivocal evil....

Well, apparently the nazis are upset about this...

William Fears told the Sun that he believed James Fields, who drove his car into a crowd of protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, wasn’t unjustified. He also said alt-right movement supporters were “pushing back” against leftist supporters.

“It’s always been socially acceptable to punch a Nazi, to attack people if they have right-wing political leanings,” Fears said. “Us coming in and saying we’re taking over your town, we’re starting to push back, we’re starting to want to intimidate back. We want to show our teeth a little bit because, you know, we’re not to be taken lightly. We don’t want violence; we don’t want harm. But at the end of the day, we’re not opposed to defending ourselves.”


When did these bits of slime start thinking they were allowed to crawl out from under their rocks?

http://www.gainesville.com/news/20171020/three-charged-in-shooting-after-spencer-talk
DrafterX Offline
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Well, when you show up at a statue removal protest with bats and guns and there are liberal extremists with guns and bats what did they think was gonna happen..?? Huh
jjanecka Offline
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QUIT CALLING NAZIS ALT-RIGHT, THEY WILL BE FOREVER PART OF THE LEFTIST IDEOLOGY.
victor809 Offline
#4 Posted:
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Tell the Nazis that. The quote wasn't mine.
DrafterX Offline
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And you trust the Nazis..Shame on you
Gene363 Offline
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99.999% of the time calling people nazies is proof positive you're an idiot, you know pretty much nothing about the history of the last century and know absolutely nothing about the nazi regime except they were bad and killed people.
frankj1 Offline
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though they probably do not each own a closet full of brown shirts, I'm comfortable calling people who parade in public protest chanting "Jews will not replace us" Nazis.

So as not to offend, I'd minimize it to neo-Nazi since they were not around to attempt to remove an entire group of people like their heroes.

But we aren't having fun here as with soup nazis.
DrafterX Offline
#8 Posted:
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Victor should choose his heros a little carefully... Mellow
victor809 Offline
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Gene... what if you call yourself a nazi?

Jesus... this didn't used to be a controversial idea. If someone calls themselves a nazi I'm pretty sure we should believe them. If people in the alt-right call themselves Nazis, we should believe they are nazis. If the alt right wants to claim the Nazis are leftist they sure as he'll should do a better job of getting them out of their meetings.

And if any of you punch someone who calls themselves a nazi I'll buy you a drink and a cigar.

Why would any of this be contriversial?
DrafterX Offline
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I'll try to find a Nazi to punch.. ThumpUp
cacman Offline
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Coming from a family of Italian/Polish decent with a number of Jewish family members, do you even understand what the term "nazi" means?

For someone who throws the word around so liberally, one would hope there would be more respect. And the word wouldn't be used to the extreme it is to push a political agenda.

For someone that despises the use of the "n" word in one color, you sure throw the other "n" word around a lot when it comes to a religion.

You should feel proud of your use of the the term and its current representation to fit your agenda.
Gene363 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Gene... what if you call yourself a nazi?

Jesus... this didn't used to be a controversial idea. If someone calls themselves a nazi I'm pretty sure we should believe them. If people in the alt-right call themselves Nazis, we should believe they are nazis. If the alt right wants to claim the Nazis are leftist they sure as he'll should do a better job of getting them out of their meetings.

And if any of you punch someone who calls themselves a nazi I'll buy you a drink and a cigar.

Why would any of this be contriversial?


If you know a genuine nazi, frankly punching them in the faces would an inadequate response, I'm just saying, and that's all I'm saying.Not talking
DrafterX Offline
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Damn, another 'N' word..?? Huh
Speyside Offline
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JJ, BS, you throw that out there, provide some proof or shut up! Your comment is offensive and you never back it up. Nazis are filth who would like to be part of the extreme right. They support Trump, they are white nationalists and so on. They are not accepted by any political or philosophical groups. I am tired of your idiotic comments. Back them up with facts.
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Speyside wrote:
JJ, BS, you throw that out there, provide some proof or shut up! Your comment is offensive and you never back it up. Nazis are filth who would like to be part of the extreme right. They support Trump, they are white nationalists and so on. They are not accepted by any political or philosophical groups. I am tired of your idiotic comments. Back them up with facts.



Then don't read his posts....nothing in your Bill of Rights that protects you or anyone else from being offended.....although we're certainly living in a time where apparently there ARE some who think they should be.
I'm offended by the pass OBLM got under Obama, ( of whom in todays society is more violent than the KKK )
I'm offended by the term White privilege. ...I'm frankly offended by a lot of current and past BS.

But I'm pretty sure...that no one cares, and probably won't :)
rfenst Offline
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Brewha Offline
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I hope none of this is going to mess up my white privilege.

I’m really counting on it in my retirement.....
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
Coming from a family of Italian/Polish decent with a number of Jewish family members, do you even understand what the term "nazi" means?

For someone who throws the word around so liberally, one would hope there would be more respect. And the word wouldn't be used to the extreme it is to push a political agenda.

For someone that despises the use of the "n" word in one color, you sure throw the other "n" word around a lot when it comes to a religion.

You should feel proud of your use of the the term and its current representation to fit your agenda.


Wow.... it's like every time you post you find a new way to be wrong.
Why would you say I throw the "other n word" around? (seriously? We're calling "nazi" an n word???) I don't.
Here's a list of people I have called nazis:
Someone who tells me they're a nazi (such as the article I posted)
People wearing a nazi symbol or waving a nazi flag.
Someone marching with people wearing nazi symbols or waving a nazi flag

That's a pretty short list, and to the best of my knowledge doesn't include anyone here (I reserve the right to change my mind if I see anyone fitting the above 3 criteria)

You do realize I call you a racist, not a nazi right? And that there is a difference between the two, right? I mean, I understand that you have a lot of trouble figuring out what the term racist means... and I understand that there is a large overlap in a venn diagram of racists and nazis... but you really need to figure it out yourself.

jesus you're dumb.
bgz Offline
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Just Googled "nazi punch", didn't know nazi punching was a thing!

I would say, at it's core, there's nothing wrong with nazi punching.

However, in a civilized society, we can't allow nazi punching.

So, if you're going to go around punching nazis, don't get caught, doubt anyone will rat you out as long as you don't end up on YouTube :D
MACS Offline
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Nazis were lefties.

If you got a half hour... watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRdxyVkzwbM
frankj1 Offline
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Oh MACS, it's such a bad time for me to get involved Shawn, but names and labels have changed a lot over 175 years. JPOTTS also fell for this crap simply because the word "social" appeared in the original party of Nazis.

I dunno what to say, maybe ask Stalin why Hitler killed soooo many Russians.

Southern Democraps were certainly comprised of what jjaneka and this guy use as proof of ownership in today's world of neo-nazis and KKK by the left wing, and after the Civil War they used Jim Crow laws to keep their nasty chit enforced. But by the early1960's the lib dems were clearly defined as the party denouncing and deploring racism...think Civil Rights Act etc., and the wholesale desertion by Southern leadership and voters to the new Red...the GOP began to champion the cause.

They hated all things Kennedy, LBJ was a traitor...please tell me you know that the real Nazis and White Supremists and KKK and John Birch Society et al had not one member vote for Carter, Clinton, Gore, Obama. But they sure turned out for Trump!

In the real world of the last 50/60 years, the definitions have changed and the Right has owned this pile of hatred and filth. Certainly they gave Trump a yuuuge boost in states that will soon see those same suckers remain unemployed and soon without health care subsidies,
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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I hate Illinois nazis...
MACS Offline
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Frank, we'll have to agree to disagree. The left and the media want us all to think the roles have changed. They haven't.

I think we can agree that the lunatics who call themselves nazis (kkk) today are very few compared to what the democrats marched down the streets of NY in the 20's. Just because they voted for Trump doesn't make them righties. And it doesn't make righties nazis, and it doesn't make the right the 'party of nazis'.

I'm not going to ask you to watch the video. If you haven't, then you likely won't, and have made up your mind.

*shrug*

Next time you're in town I'd still take you for a boat ride. I'm bringing fishing gear, though.
victor809 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Frank, we'll have to agree to disagree. The left and the media want us all to think the roles have changed. They haven't.

I think we can agree that the lunatics who call themselves nazis (kkk) today are very few compared to what the democrats marched down the streets of NY in the 20's. Just because they voted for Trump doesn't make them righties. And it doesn't make righties nazis, and it doesn't make the right the 'party of nazis'.

I'm not going to ask you to watch the video. If you haven't, then you likely won't, and have made up your mind.

*shrug*

Next time you're in town I'd still take you for a boat ride. I'm bringing fishing gear, though.


MACS... fewer is fine. I think we can all agree having fewer nazis is a good thing (I really hope we can all agree to this, but I never know these days). But they identify themseleves as both nazis and alt-right. They voted for trump. They go to his rallys and cheer for him. To pretend they aren't a part of his base (not all, a part) is simply being blind.

If you don't want nazis in your party, make the party less hospitable to them. Try punching a few.
frankj1 Offline
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MACS wrote:
Frank, we'll have to agree to disagree. The left and the media want us all to think the roles have changed. They haven't.

I think we can agree that the lunatics who call themselves nazis (kkk) today are very few compared to what the democrats marched down the streets of NY in the 20's. Just because they voted for Trump doesn't make them righties. And it doesn't make righties nazis, and it doesn't make the right the 'party of nazis'.

I'm not going to ask you to watch the video. If you haven't, then you likely won't, and have made up your mind.

*shrug*

Next time you're in town I'd still take you for a boat ride. I'm bringing fishing gear, though.

I watched half the video, it was not news to me. I've seen dozens of the New Right deniers playing word games to glom these racists onto the left using old definitions..but we live in 2017.

OK, forget the definitions 100 years ago (actually 97 years). In today's real world, who do these deplorables identify with...the New Right or any Blue candidate anywhere in the country? George Wallace left the Dems a half century ago for the reasons I state. But they vote Trump Trump Trump, and not cuz he's a commie!

Can Caren come on the ride? She loves you, ya know.
DrafterX Offline
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Frank..!! We be Herfin here in Dallas..!! Herfing
frankj1 Offline
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there will be a pause in my activity as I plan to smoke a cigar and drink something real good.

I'm in pain tonight and appreciate your indulging me the moments in which I can falsely vent...

Thank you in advance.
frankj1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Frank..!! We be Herfin here in Dallas..!! Herfing

William!
Lemme set up outside and I will call Mikey in a few minutes...give him a heads up.

Love ya, man!
MACS Offline
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TL Caren is always invited.

I don't care WHO the 'tards identify with, they don't represent me as a conservative. Liberal policies have left the poor and blacks right where they wanted to keep them... in the ghetto.
Speyside Offline
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Shawn, they don't represent any of us. The us I am talking about is good people. We complain and moan here about liberal POV, or conservative POV, but there are so many good people here. None of us would associate with those POS. At the end of the day we could all sit down and have a beer and a cigar together. LOL, in my case it would probably be a glass of wine. Clearly it doesn't sit well with you to have them identified as conservatives. Just as clearly it doesn't sit well with me to have them identified as liberals. I Honestly I think we don't have to agree to disagree. We can agree that they are nothing like we are, and their way of life will never be our way of life.
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MACS wrote:
TL Caren is always invited.

I don't care WHO the 'tards identify with, they don't represent me as a conservative. Liberal policies have left the poor and blacks right where they wanted to keep them... in the ghetto.

I would really like you to both explain and illustrate to me how liberal policies have left people in the ghetto.

But I fear it would just give me a headache.




Wait - it has already started....
victor809 Offline
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I dunno... only one group is punching them....

Just saying... the conservatives are standing right next to them in the rallies... they could just punch them right there. But oh no... they have to wait for the "snowflake" left to come punch them.

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victor809 wrote:
Why would you say I throw the "other n word" around? (seriously? We're calling "nazi" an n word???) I don't.
Here's a list of people I have called nazis:
Someone who tells me they're a nazi (such as the article I posted)
People wearing a nazi symbol or waving a nazi flag.
Someone marching with people wearing nazi symbols or waving a nazi flag

That's a pretty short list, and to the best of my knowledge doesn't include anyone here (I reserve the right to change my mind if I see anyone fitting the above 3 criteria)

Here's the thing you and many extremists like yourself fail to understand. Just because they call themselves, wear symbols, raise flags, doesn't mean they are real. They are nothing more than extremist nuts pushing a cause. Much like the BLM movement. And people like you who constantly recognize them and continue using the word only legitimizes them and furthers their cause. Just like the other "n" word, if you quit recognizing and using it, it will eventually fade.

Get it? Gees you're dumb.
DrafterX Offline
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Did you consider they voted for Trump because Hillary sucked.. it's not like they had another option... Mellow
MACS Offline
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Brewha wrote:
I would really like you to both explain and illustrate to me how liberal policies have left people in the ghetto.

But I fear it would just give me a headache.

Wait - it has already started....


Detroit. Chicago. Baltimore. St Louis. - look at their policies, look at who wrote them, look at what has happened.

I hear excedrin is good for headaches, but it won't take your blinders off.
MACS Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I dunno... only one group is punching them....

Just saying... the conservatives are standing right next to them in the rallies... they could just punch them right there. But oh no... they have to wait for the "snowflake" left to come punch them.



Since people aren't willing to commit assault and battery (a crime), they're silently complicit? I reject that notion.

If nazis showed up at an antifa rally with masks and weapons, the media would lose their friggin minds. But antifa does the same to the nazi rally and it's their fault. I'm not defending their retarded ideology (both of them) but at least be consistent.
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MACS wrote:
Detroit. Chicago. Baltimore. St Louis. - look at their policies, look at who wrote them, look at what has happened.

I hear excedrin is good for headaches, but it won't take your blinders off.



Word!

Keep going...LA, San Fran, DC, Miami, Pittsburgh, NY...Some people really hope that change is just around the corner!!!
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Pretty much anyone with an extreme view...whether they be Nazis, the westboro shitbags, far right wing religious nuts and far left wing hippie flakes deserve to be punched. In fact, I think it's good for any person's soul...especially a man's...to have his ass handed to him at least once in life
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MACS wrote:
Detroit. Chicago. Baltimore. St Louis. - look at their policies, look at who wrote them, look at what has happened.

I hear excedrin is good for headaches, but it won't take your blinders off.

An honest Thanks MACS. I really didn’t need to read your explanation. Hey, who needs that kind of headache anyway?

Just our of curiosity, is that the liberals, or just the liberal nazis that made Detroit a.....not so great place?
MACS Offline
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Brewha wrote:
An honest Thanks MACS. I really didn’t need to read your explanation. Hey, who needs that kind of headache anyway?

Just our of curiosity, is that the liberals, or just the liberal nazis that made Detroit a.....not so great place?


Kinda redundant, eh? LOL
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MACS wrote:
TL Caren is always invited.

I don't care WHO the 'tards identify with, they don't represent me as a conservative.

well said. but they certainly are not liberals.
now if only cons would stop referring to libs as all buying in to objectionable stuff, we could be great again.

two way street.
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DrafterX wrote:
Did you consider they voted for Trump because Hillary sucked.. it's not like they had another option... Mellow

first choice was Bannon, but he didn't run

HA!
MACS Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
well said. but they certainly are not liberals.
now if only cons would stop referring to libs as all buying in to objectionable stuff, we could be great again.

two way street.


If it truly was a two way street, liberals would be denouncing antifa and blm, just like they want conservatives to denounce nazis (which most of us do, btw). No... they hold them up as social justice warriors.

They're not.
rfenst Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
first choice was Bannon, but he didn't run

HA!



Whatttttt???
Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Maybe I was raised differently, but I always believed there were certain people it was considered "appropriate" and "pro-american" to punch.... Nazis... child molesters... the homeless (ok, the last one is a joke because I know one of you azzholes would say it anyway). Sure, if you punch a nazi or a child molester it's still legally wrong and you should accept legal ramifications, but morally you're justified. because they're nazis. I mean, they were our last great unequivocal evil....

Well, apparently the nazis are upset about this...

William Fears told the Sun that he believed James Fields, who drove his car into a crowd of protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, wasn’t unjustified. He also said alt-right movement supporters were “pushing back” against leftist supporters.

“It’s always been socially acceptable to punch a Nazi, to attack people if they have right-wing political leanings,” Fears said. “Us coming in and saying we’re taking over your town, we’re starting to push back, we’re starting to want to intimidate back. We want to show our teeth a little bit because, you know, we’re not to be taken lightly. We don’t want violence; we don’t want harm. But at the end of the day, we’re not opposed to defending ourselves.”


When did these bits of slime start thinking they were allowed to crawl out from under their rocks?

http://www.gainesville.com/news/20171020/three-charged-in-shooting-after-spencer-talk


So what you are really saying is freedom of speech is ok as long as the person exercising that right has views compatible with your own?
Speyside Offline
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It is such a shame that hate groups try to affiliate themselves with liberals or conservatives. To me being liberal or conservative has nothing to do with hate. It is also a shame that the news media legitimize them with air time. We must allow them free speech, lest we lesson our constitutional rights, but we don't have to give them larger platforms. Also if they break the law arrest them.
victor809 Offline
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Anthony.

First... freedom of speech is referring to governmental restriction on speech. I am not the government. I firmly believe the government (and government supported institututions) should not restrict speech.

Second.. freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences. There are things someone may say to you which you find acceptable to punch them for (for instance anything relating to your wife or kid) You're not restricting their freedom of speech you're just getting an assault and battery charge.

This isn't hard to understand. And all this equivocating over it is making these ****bags more bold. They're convinced they own the president right now.
DrafterX Offline
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Says who..?? Just cause you think that doesn't mean they do. speculation at best.. . Mellow
MACS Offline
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Right... freedom of speech (kneeling during the anthem) is not free from getting you fired, or free from millions of people to quit supporting your employers.

Consequences.
victor809 Offline
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And I've never said otherwise macs. I've said that was between the players and the owners and the president should stay the fxxx out (because guess what? He's the government.. once he gets involved it starts to reek of government pressure)
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