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tailgater Offline
#51 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 4:00 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
JJ, BS, you throw that out there, provide some proof or shut up! Your comment is offensive and you never back it up. Nazis are filth who would like to be part of the extreme right. They support Trump, they are white nationalists and so on. They are not accepted by any political or philosophical groups. I am tired of your idiotic comments. Back them up with facts.


Nazis hate certain people for reasons that are irrelevant to politics.
Labeling them under a political faction serves no purpose, except to bait and troll.

You obviously have your panties in a knot because jj deflected their filth to the left. Then you clearly label them "right".
Don't be that person.
MACS Offline
#52 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 5:06 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
And I've never said otherwise macs. I've said that was between the players and the owners and the president should stay the fxxx out (because guess what? He's the government.. once he gets involved it starts to reek of government pressure)


Stating his opinion is gov't pressure? No.

Using his position to do something... you know, such as auditing them with the IRS and stuff... that would be bad.
Brewha Offline
#53 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 5:16 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Right... freedom of speech (kneeling during the anthem) is not free from getting you fired, or free from millions of people to quit supporting your employers.

Consequences.

Right - people gotta know they place.

Hell, some folk don’t even knows they gotta sits at da back of duh bus....
victor809 Offline
#54 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 5:27 PM EST
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MACS... Gonna disagree with you there. A president stating their personal opinion is not "personal" any longer. A president does not have the same freedoms that an average citizen has. All other presidents recognized that, and you recognized it a couple years ago when you were angry at Obama for expressing his opinion about a cop who stopped a professor coming home.

When a president says something negative about a company (media?) An organization, another country, at trade agreement or even a person that carries with it the threat that there will be some government involvement. You liked it when Trump said this bullcrap about NATO or nafta... that same thing you like about him wielding his "power" in those cases is the same crap he shouldn't be doing when it has to do with citizens statements.
MACS Offline
#55 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 5:31 PM EST
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Don't presume to tell me what I recognize.

Obama had an opinion I disagreed with. Please tell me when I ever complained he was using his power as president to do anything? I didn't.

You can disagree with Trump all you want. When he uses his power (as Obama did with the IRS) let me know.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#56 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 5:36 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
MACS... Gonna disagree with you there. A president stating their personal opinion is not "personal" any longer. A president does not have the same freedoms that an average citizen has. All other presidents recognized that, and you recognized it a couple years ago when you were angry at Obama for expressing his opinion about a cop who stopped a professor coming home.

When a president says something negative about a company (media?) An organization, another country, at trade agreement or even a person that carries with it the threat that there will be some government involvement. You liked it when Trump said this bullcrap about NATO or nafta... that same thing you like about him wielding his "power" in those cases is the same crap he shouldn't be doing when it has to do with citizens statements.


Wait...what???Frying pan
victor809 Offline
#57 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 5:43 PM EST
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Macs... I'm pretty sure I read you saying it was inappropriate that Obama state his opinion on that police officer. Maybe it was someone else. It was a commonly stated thing in this forum at the time.

I'm pretty sure the IRS thing is a bunch of bs... not only that there's no credible link to Obama. So... not sure where you're getting news....
Brewha Offline
#58 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 6:27 PM EST
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I have my (FOX) theories.....
Speyside Offline
#59 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 6:54 PM EST
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TG, after cooling down, my statements today reflect that hate groups are just that. Neither left nor right. ANTIFA wants to associate with liberals, but they just hate. Nazis want to associate with conservatives, but they just hate.
frankj1 Offline
#60 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 7:19 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
If it truly was a two way street, liberals would be denouncing antifa and blm, just like they want conservatives to denounce nazis (which most of us do, btw). No... they hold them up as social justice warriors.

They're not.

can only speak for this lib, but I will agree and denounce violent tactics of the fringe left and other fake political representation on either side.

I will, however, support nonviolent protests by even the most despicable groups among us.

I reserve the right to support violence against oppressive government, for whatever good it would do us.
frankj1 Offline
#61 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 7:22 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Whatttttt???

ha! Just messing around. Bannon was the real choice of the neo nazis, they voted Trump hoping for his influence.
fishinguitarman Offline
#62 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 7:45 PM EST
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Yes! Punch Nazis!

And child molesters need to be hung upside down by their feet, their nuts cut off and salt poured in!
victor809 Offline
#63 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 7:59 PM EST
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See... even fgm and I can agree on something.

Dunno why the rest of you had to make it a discussion...
fishinguitarman Offline
#64 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 8:01 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
See... even fgm and I can agree on something.

Dunno why the rest of you had to make it a discussion...






LMAO! Finally!Herfing
frankj1 Offline
#65 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 8:21 PM EST
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brought a tear to me eye, lads.
fishinguitarman Offline
#66 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 8:28 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
brought a tear to me eye, lads.




WOW!
frankj1 Offline
#67 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 8:39 PM EST
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I'm a bleeding heart guy
DrafterX Offline
#68 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:13 PM EST
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I bet Ben Carson voted Trump.. is he a nazi..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#69 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:26 PM EST
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ya got it discombobulated.

all nazis voted for Trump, but not all Trump voters are nazis

Carson is a narcoleptic.
DrafterX Offline
#70 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:31 PM EST
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Who'd he nark out..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#71 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:34 PM EST
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dunno. hasn't uttered a sound in months.
DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:35 PM EST
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He's prolly looking for CROS.. Mellow
xibbumbero Offline
#73 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:55 PM EST
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jjanecka wrote:
QUIT CALLING NAZIS ALT-RIGHT, THEY WILL BE FOREVER PART OF THE LEFTIST IDEOLOGY.

Sorry but Nazi's have always been right wing facists. X Shame on you
DrafterX Offline
#74 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 9:58 PM EST
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How many Nazis you know..?? Huh
DrafterX Offline
#75 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 10:02 PM EST
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Seems to me they have alot in common with liberal Extremists.. think my way or else..
And note the word Extremists... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#76 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 10:06 PM EST
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I find it really interesting Hillary chose the word 'Resistance' for her new party... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#77 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 10:10 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Seems to me they have alot in common with liberal Extremists.. think my way or else..
And note the word Extremists... Mellow

my way or else is a common theme among many intolerant groups, this could include religions and even private golf clubs.

I think you may be missing the point, and the Nazis have no peers.

Shouting them down at "free speech" rallies is not close to equivalent.
DrafterX Offline
#78 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 10:18 PM EST
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Not defending nazis by any means here... I'm just not convinced they are Republicans. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#79 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 10:19 PM EST
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Which seems to be what is implied here.. .. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#80 Posted: Sun, Oct 22 2017, 11:34 PM EST
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Drafter... the nazi in the quote claimed allegiance with the alt right. You want to disagree with what party he's in, take it up with him.

Why the hell would it be anyone else's job to prove he's not a liberal?

All the alt right had to do was actively and vocally (and physically) get them out of their rallies or free speech events... they appreciated the extra numbers and I think the alt right finds them fun and edgy. It's part of that whole pepe the frog thing they like to throw around.
JadeRose Offline
#81 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 6:21 AM EST
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Jesus......how can there be a discussion that has gone into a second page over whether it's ok to punch Nazis?


IT'S ALWAYS OK TO PUNCH NAZIS. HARD AND OFTEN. I COULDN'T GIVE 2 TIN SHITS ABOUT THE POLITICAL PARTY SOMEONE WEARING A SWASTIKA IS AFFILIATED WITH. AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PUNCHED.



and yes...I would go to jail for punching a Nazi
rfenst Offline
#82 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 8:38 AM EST
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xibbumbero wrote:
Sorry but Nazi's have always been right wing facists. X Shame on you


YES.
tailgater Offline
#83 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 8:43 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
TG, after cooling down, my statements today reflect that hate groups are just that. Neither left nor right. ANTIFA wants to associate with liberals, but they just hate. Nazis want to associate with conservatives, but they just hate.


You are correct.

Although it does make for stimulating discussions.
dstieger Offline
#84 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 8:52 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Nazis hate certain people for reasons that are irrelevant to politics.
Labeling them under a political faction serves no purpose, except to bait and troll.

You obviously have your panties in a knot because jj deflected their filth to the left. Then you clearly label them "right".
Don't be that person.




Applause

The day your advice gets widely taken....will be the day the cbid Politics Forum dies....or at least gets really fn boring
tailgater Offline
#85 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 8:53 AM EST
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So some nazi groups consider themselves alt-right.
Who cares?

The majority of child molestors are left wing nut jobs.
Doesn't mean anything.

Punch them both.
Punch them twice, in case I don't get the opportunity.

And stop associating today's American political factions with these reprehensible scum. It speaks more about one's own inadequacy than anything else.
loud and clear.
tailgater Offline
#86 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 8:55 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Applause

The day your advice gets widely taken....will be the day the cbid Politics Forum dies....or at least gets really fn boring


I don't even take my advice.

Gene363 Offline
#87 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 10:06 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So some nazi groups consider themselves alt-right.
Who cares?

The majority of child molestors are left wing nut jobs.
Doesn't mean anything.

Punch them both.
Punch them twice, in case I don't get the opportunity.

And stop associating today's American political factions with these reprehensible scum. It speaks more about one's own inadequacy than anything else.
loud and clear.






True
Mr. Jones Offline
#88 Posted: Mon, Oct 23 2017, 7:45 PM EST
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Oh the old's daysssss....
Back in Argentina...
Gotta love a beer hall filled with celebrating NAZI's...
Scurrying like rats in a maze ...
Ratta tat tat...tat tat...reload...
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