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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:01 AM EST
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A new lawsuit accuses Gov. Terry McAuliffe of Virginia and Hillary Clinton’s brother Anthony Rodham of stealing the “money and dreams” of a group of Chinese investors who propped up a troubled electric-car company, believing they would gain U.S. residency.

The investors filed suit in Fairfax County, Virginia, last week against the automaker, GreenTech Automotive, McAuliffe, Clinton's brother, company CEO Charles Wang and various related companies. The plaintiffs, seeking at least $17.9 million in repayment, accuse the defendants of milking political connections to perpetuate a $120 million scam.

"Plaintiffs now face the prospect of having to uproot their families once again, with the expense and stress of deportation to China looming before them," the lawsuit says.


McAuliffe is set to leave office in January and is often mentioned as a potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidate.

Pitched nearly a decade ago as a revolutionary company that would use foreign investments to build a new line of energy-efficient cars that would create jobs in the impoverished Mississippi Delta, GreenTech -- which closed a factory in Robinsonville, Mississippi earlier this year -- has failed to live up to those promises and has been a magnet for controversy.

McAuliffe served as chairman of GreenTech before leaving the company in 2012 to run for governor. Rodham helped run an associated fund designed to attract foreign money from investors intent on green cards.

Rodham declined an Associated Press request for comment. A GreenTech representative did not immediately return an AP email seeking comment.

Documents obtained by AP show that the Department of Homeland Security decided to reject a number of visa requests made through Rodham's fund because GreenTech had created so few jobs.

The lawsuits were first reported by Politico. The Virginia suit alleges that the governor and his associates "exploited" investors' desire to become permanent residents with an implicit message: "Invest $500,000 in our electric car company, and will leverage our political connections to ensure your immigration papers will get to the top of the pile."


Film at 11... Think
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 4:59 PM EST
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there is an EB-5 program of some sort that is used a lot by Chinese investors in particular to get here swiftly. It is based around investing 500K, job creation/etc...and it comes with monetary risks.

didn't read much of the above but the terms sound familiar to me to programs I have heard of for a while on the news.
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 5:12 PM EST
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It's the last sentence of my post that created my outrage... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 5:18 PM EST
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ah.

I guess I'm not sure connections are even necessary.
Maybe they are mad that it was a bad investment so back they go, over the Great Wall (of China).
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 5:28 PM EST
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I'm pretty sure the brother was saying he would call Hillary and get them immunized and stuff... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 5:32 PM EST
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it is not impossible that these characters pulled a scam...immunized?
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 6:48 PM EST
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So, you're outraged too..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 6:51 PM EST
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I will be if it helps.
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 6:54 PM EST
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Cool..,!! Laugh


I feel better.. Mellow
Burner02 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 7:01 PM EST
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Guess Victor will not read the article in case there is some truth in it.
DrafterX Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 7:11 PM EST
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It would hurt him too bad... Mellow
banderl Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 7:14 PM EST
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http://www.businessinsider.com/r-reporters-barred-from-china-event-seeking-investment-in-kushner-project-2017-5
frankj1 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 7:20 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-reporters-barred-from-china-event-seeking-investment-in-kushner-project-2017-5

I knew I read about this before...thanks Bob.
victor809 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 7:35 PM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Guess Victor will not read the article in case there is some truth in it.


There is so much wrong with your statement... all packed into 12 words.

Do you realize you just openly acknowledged by stating "some truth in it" that you don't expect truth to be the main component?

You should be railing against the falsehoods, not supporting tripe that you are sure might have "some truth in it"...

As to your idiotic statement, no. I'm not going to read it because it's just another one of drafter's masturbatory fantasy postings.. He does this every other week, posts an article about someone who is not president, or anywhere in politics, written by someone who doesn't care that their work is the equivalent of cheap capri sun juice "contains 10% real truth extract!*", and furiously pounds his tiny erection from under his overhanging, hairy gut.

Meanwhile there is actual news out there (you know, Alabama electing a pedophile, the orange menace doing dumb things daily, the cheeto-in-chief trying to run our nation like a banana republic) going on daily that doesn't get posted here.

It's fodder for the dumb. My time is much better spent making fun of the dumb, and mocking people who are sure those articles are super important for us to see.





* truth extract is from 1946 census data and in no way relates to Clinton
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 8:43 PM EST
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Nice spin... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 8:45 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Nice spin... Mellow


Oh I'm a walking no spin zone. Know how you can tell? Because I told you.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 8:46 PM EST
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You Can't Handle TheTruth..!! Mad
victor809 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 8:47 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I Can't Tell The Truth..!! Mad


FIFY
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 8:48 PM EST
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Laugh
Burner02 Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 9:15 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
There is so much wrong with your statement... all packed into 12 words.

Do you realize you just openly acknowledged by stating "some truth in it" that you don't expect truth to be the main component?

You should be railing against the falsehoods, not supporting tripe that you are sure might have "some truth in it"...

As to your idiotic statement, no. I'm not going to read it because it's just another one of drafter's masturbatory fantasy postings.. He does this every other week, posts an article about someone who is not president, or anywhere in politics, written by someone who doesn't care that their work is the equivalent of cheap capri sun juice "contains 10% real truth extract!*", and furiously pounds his tiny erection from under his overhanging, hairy gut.

Meanwhile there is actual news out there (you know, Alabama electing a pedophile, the orange menace doing dumb things daily, the cheeto-in-chief trying to run our nation like a banana republic) going on daily that doesn't get posted here.

It's fodder for the dumb. My time is much better spent making fun of the dumb, and mocking people who are sure those articles are super important for us to see.





* truth extract is from 1946 census data and in no way relates to Clinton



Doesn't really matter what is in Drafters OP, the comment was just a take on your own words in the past 48 hours. Just wanted to see how far you would run in to the ditch with it.

You never disappoint.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 9:29 PM EST
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: "Invest $500,000 in our electric car company, and will leverage our political connections to ensure your immigration papers will get to the top of the pile."


It pretty much speaks for itself.. if Hillary had won, she lost, it woulda happened.. as well as funding into the company.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 9:40 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
: "Invest $500,000 in our electric car company, and will leverage our political connections to ensure your immigration papers will get to the top of the pile."


It pretty much speaks for itself.. if Hillary had won, she lost, it woulda happened.. as well as funding into the company.. Mellow

earlier I said there wouldn't be a need for "connections" per the investment for immigration program. Large investors get waived to the front...and I have to think Chinese citizens with enough clout to be allowed to earn that kind of money know all the ins and outs of this opportunity, and others all over the world.

typically, they aren't the ones getting played.

yet I could believe the two Americans in question have enough con in them that they'd say stupid stuff like that...
banderl Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 9:41 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
: "Invest $500,000 in our electric car company, and will leverage our political connections to ensure your immigration papers will get to the top of the pile."


It pretty much speaks for itself.. if Hillary had won, she lost, it woulda happened.. as well as funding into the company.. Mellow



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/kushner-family-pitching-u-s-visas-to-woo-investors-in-china.htmlHerfing
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:05 PM EST
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Pre Clinton and cheeto this was available, if my recollection is correct. You invest enough money in a company in the USA you get to become a citizen. To pretend this is a Clinton scam is ridiculous.

You idiots need to stop masturbating so much
DrafterX Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:07 PM EST
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You're in denial... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:12 PM EST
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https://www.uscis.gov/eb-5
And you're an idiot. That took me 2 seconds to find. It's been in place since 1992...

I f3cking swear... it's like you post sh1t here just because you're too lazy to look up facts yourself.
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:23 PM EST
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The question wasn't about the policy... It was about being moved to the top of the list because of their political connections.. meaning Hillary.. but she lost... Wake up.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:26 PM EST
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She lost. Stop masturbating to Capri sun articles about her. There's nothing there. You don't even bother double checking the most basic parts of the crap you post...
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:28 PM EST
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I've been trying to be nice telling you these donors are all on the fast track...and I'm pretty sure, not snopes sure, but pretty sure these investors know it.
DrafterX Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:35 PM EST
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They are sueing because Hillary's brother couldn't deliver what he promised.. there's no defense.. keep on trying to spin.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:36 PM EST
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trying to recover money
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:38 PM EST
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Fap fap fap...
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:38 PM EST
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Prolly.. no doubt in fact... If Hillary had been elected, she lost, there wouldn't be a problem... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:42 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Prolly.. no doubt in fact... If Hillary had been elected, she lost, there wouldn't be a problem... Mellow

I'm not seeing criminal charges, so far some millionaire Chinese international investors who gambled, lost, and are alleging false promises.

a little different than promising farm workers a piece of the American dream.
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#35 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 10:48 PM EST
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It's very simple... If they made this particular investment, Hillary's brother promised they would be moved to the top of the list.. because of his political connections.. it's not hard to see... Unless you have your Hillary glasses on... Mellow
banderl Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:00 PM EST
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The EB-5 immigrant investor visa program that Meyer discussed Saturday allows rich foreign investors who are willing to plunk down large investments in U.S. projects that create jobs to apply to immigrate to the United States.

Bloomberg News reported in March 2016 that the program has been used to the benefit both the Trump and Kushner family businesses. Before joining the White House, as chief executive of his family’s real estate company, Jared Kushner raised $50 million from Chinese EB-5 applicants for a Trump-branded apartment building in Jersey City, according to the report.
DrafterX Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:02 PM EST
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And that has what to do with Hillary's brother..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:08 PM EST
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The bigger question is why are you masturbating to this topic about the brother of a failed presidential candidate rather than posting an article about the son in law and the presidents name branded company profiting in the same way?

She lost. But you can't get her out of you mind.
victor809 Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:10 PM EST
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It's like how there's an article for every left leaning sexual harasser but nothing about the pedophile...

If a dem did it here there's outrage. If a rep... silence.
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#40 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:12 PM EST
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And that's not even taking into account the hundreds of times the dem didn't even do anything and you just post conspiracy theory crap and pretend it's news.
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#41 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:12 PM EST
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Why can't you just accept there was a conspiracy..... You're love for Hillary is obvious... Mellow
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#42 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:14 PM EST
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Tell me your interpretation of : "Invest $500,000 in our electric car company, and will leverage our political connections to ensure your immigration papers will get to the top of the pile."

Mellow
victor809 Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:20 PM EST
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Kushner did the same thing. He lied to foreing investors to imply his political connections would help them get immigration status. The process exists without the political connections, all that is needed is an investment which creates sufficient jobs. (Or did you neglect to read my link)

Now you answer what does this have to do with hillary?
Why aren't you outraged over Kushner doing the same thing?
DrafterX Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Nov 30 2017, 11:23 PM EST
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So it's ok someone else did somethin similar... Ok.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 12:15 AM EST
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Never said it's ok. Just wondering why you care more about the lying of a random brother of a random failed presidential candidate than you do about the exact same lying of the son in law of the current president as well as the business interests of the current president.
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#46 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 12:18 AM EST
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Almost as if you completely ignored a candidate being accused of raping children but showed immense concern about a senator inappropriately sexually harassing women
DrafterX Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 8:49 AM EST
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Apology accepted... Mellow
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#48 Posted: Fri, Dec 1 2017, 4:06 PM EST
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Somebody.....

PLEASE!!!

JUST TELL THESE RICH CHIREE GREEN CARD IDIOTS THAT IT would be way easier to seek out an UGLY "BLEND IN THE CROWD" S.S.G. SKANK AGENT TO MARRY , then get their green card....WAY CHEAPER....

UGLY SSG AGENT SKANKS all got ridiculed and bullied in High School, their self esteem is actually Z.E.R.O....
the problem is...they are all sadistic sociopaths ....but I heard CHIREE dudes like that trait in a woman....

So its a WIN WIN and doesn't cost $500 L.A.R.G.E.
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