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deadeyedick Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 8:48 PM EST
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Love him or hate him the Trump administration seems to have been good for the stock market. I usually prefer the S&P 500 as a proxy for the market but the DOW is more often quoted. So where will the DOW be at the end of 2018?

Guess the DOW at the end of 2018 and win a box of cigars worth at least $200.

Contest is open to all and will close entries 1/15/18 at 12PM EST.

My guess (which does not count) is Dow 30015
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:03 PM EST
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Think
frankj1 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:10 PM EST
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admittedly, I don't have a lot of market savvy, but the S&P is where I look at the end of the day too.
The market was moving in the right direction under Obama as well, so Presidents may not be a yuuuge factor, though for sure they do influence the direction.

Trump did step into an economy that was well on it's way up...for what ever reasons.

and once again, you are generous beyond normalcy!
gummy jones Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:16 PM EST
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Wow 3015 would be an incredible drop

I'll go the other way and guess 25207
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:20 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
Wow 3015 would be an incredible drop

I'll go the other way and guess 25207

3015, one more zero, maybe?
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:21 PM EST
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I dunno Frank... Hillary was raise taxes and the EPA regulations would still be in place.. I don't see the stock market climbing if Hillary had won... She lost... Mellow
dkeage Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:23 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Love him or hate him the Trump administration seems to have been good for the stock market. I usually prefer the S&P 500 as a proxy for the market but the DOW is more ofter quoted. So where will the DOW be at the end of 2018?

Guess the DOW at the end of 2018 and win a box of cigars worth at least $200.

Contest is open to all and will close entries 1/15/18 at 12PM EST.

My guess (which does not count) is Dow 3015



If the DOW drops to 3015, most of us will die in the riots.
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:23 PM EST
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market went up with the regulations, and we will know soon enough if taxes are going up anyway.
I'd worry more about the world in general having an impact.
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:24 PM EST
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dkeage wrote:
If the DOW drops to 3015, most of us will die in the riots.


poor DED
DrafterX Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:28 PM EST
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There were new trade deals and stuff too... But let's not mess up DED's thread with politics.. I'm still thinking of a number... Think
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:29 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
There were new trade deals and stuff too... But let's not mess up DED's thread with politics.. I'm still thinking of a number... Think

yeah...
gumby_130 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:31 PM EST
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34200 my guess
Phil222 Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:33 PM EST
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The next crash is coming...but it won't be this year. Put me down for 27,500.
deadeyedick Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:37 PM EST
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Yeah, dropped a digit my guess is 30015, then again we could drop like a rock iffn' Kimmy drops a bomb on us. Think
gummy jones Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 9:44 PM EST
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A geopolitical event will cause a pull back. Guaranteed. But with tax reform and infrastructure spending recovery will be strong.

Our economy was so strong the last 8 years that the fed kept the interest rates at 0 percent (sarcasm of course) allowing big companies free money to pump up their stocks (not sarcasm).
stinger88 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 10:45 PM EST
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I will go with 23,210.
SmokeMonkey Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 10:53 PM EST
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I’m going with 26,317
danmdevries Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 11:23 PM EST
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26990
frankj1 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 11:52 PM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
A geopolitical event will cause a pull back. Guaranteed. But with tax reform and infrastructure spending recovery will be strong.

Our economy was so strong the last 8 years that the fed kept the interest rates at 0 percent (sarcasm of course) allowing big companies free money to pump up their stocks (not sarcasm).

coming soon: the return of obscene bonuses.
DrafterX Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 11:55 PM EST
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There's been lots of thousand dollar bonuses issued to the pee-ons by several large corps so far.. where's that money going..?? Huh
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 11:58 PM EST
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Ha! wells fargo and a few others with "special needs"?
80% staying on top.
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Jan 4 2018, 11:59 PM EST
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sorry, I will stop now.

my guess...25000
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 12:02 AM EST
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I'm sorry... Sad
Palama Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 12:09 AM EST
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I'll throw my guess into the ring:

28340
Ewok126 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 1:50 AM EST
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DED, your generosity knows no bounds.

I will throw my potato in this soup mix I guess.


27250
TMCTLT Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 5:55 AM EST
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Thanks for the interesting contest Rick!!!

29025
shaun341 Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 7:11 AM EST
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I would have guessed 27500 but that was taken (Phil must have saw the same analysis I did) so my guess is 28001
corey sellers Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 8:30 AM EST
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I will go with 31768 Thanks for the contest
madspackler Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 8:59 AM EST
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Thanks DED
I’ll guess 26,420
frankj1 Offline
#30 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 9:56 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I'm sorry... Sad

no, no. It was my fault.
DrafterX Offline
#31 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 10:26 AM EST
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Let's just blame TW... Mellow
Oscar Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 11:15 AM EST
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delta1 Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 2:06 PM EST
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31109


Thanks for this imaginative contest DED.
jespear Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 2:19 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
admittedly, I don't have a lot of market savvy, but the S&P is where I look at the end of the day too.
The market was moving in the right direction under Obama as well, so Presidents may not be a yuuuge factor, though for sure they do influence the direction.

Trump did step into an economy that was well on it's way up...for what ever reasons.

and once again, you are generous beyond normalcy!


Well, we all KNOW it MUST have been because of Obama !
He WAS, after-all, the GREATEST president EVER !





















Sarcasm
As if you didn't know that I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic.
Buckwheat Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 2:21 PM EST
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28001
jespear Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 2:35 PM EST
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I apologize for the Obama post up above, but Frank the deush-nozzle started it.

Thanks for the contest, DED. Your generosity knows no bounds !
My (winning guess ) is :27102
I used the same "WG" strategy as I did last year to win the NBA Championship contest, missing a perfect guess by 1 point !
Phil222 Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 2:43 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
(Phil must have saw the same analysis I did) so my guess is 28001


No, I didn't actually. I decided to go with around half the growth of last year. It has to slow down eventually, right? Cool
shaun341 Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 3:26 PM EST
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Phil222 wrote:
No, I didn't actually. I decided to go with around half the growth of last year. It has to slow down eventually, right? Cool



I saw that on Bloomberg last week. The analyst said that realistic growth would be 8%-10% this year.
shaun341 Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 3:27 PM EST
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Buckwheat wrote:
28001



Sorry Buckwheat, I already have that post #27
DrafterX Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 4:37 PM EST
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30015.... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 7:14 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
I apologize for the Obama post up above, but Frank the deush-nozzle started it.

Thanks for the contest, DED. Your generosity knows no bounds !
My (winning guess ) is :27102
I used the same "WG" strategy as I did last year to win the NBA Championship contest, missing a perfect guess by 1 point !

X said we're gonna blame TW


WG strategy...was that "ask Sally"?
drnos Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 7:47 PM EST
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24500. Just a WAG, but we're due for a major correction.
zitotczito Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 8:15 PM EST
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28700
jespear Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 9:45 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
X said we're gonna blame TW


WG strategy...was that "ask Sally"?


No, genius . . . Wild Guess strategy.
frankj1 Offline
#45 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 9:54 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
No, genius . . . Wild Guess strategy.

HA!
exactly why I am "like" a genius.
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted: Fri, Jan 5 2018, 9:55 PM EST
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True... True... Mellow
sfg391 Offline
#47 Posted: Sat, Jan 6 2018, 10:33 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
HA!
exactly why I am "like" a genius.


He was probably giving you the benefit of the doubt. RollEyes
LetsRock Offline
#48 Posted: Sat, Jan 6 2018, 11:12 AM EST
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23456
chazbo Offline
#49 Posted: Sat, Jan 6 2018, 3:21 PM EST
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28750
Hope everyone has a great year
Thanks DED
Chazbo
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#50 Posted: Sat, Jan 6 2018, 3:28 PM EST
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27455


Thx DED
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