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victor809 Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
DrafterX wrote:
And explain how Hillary raising taxes would have boosted the stock market... Think


who farking cares?

There are views out there that the stock market itself has irreversibly damaged the economics of business decisions (ie, short term gains to profit those immediately involved at the expense of long term sound policy). By that respect it is hardly a barometer of the health of a company, let alone the country.
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,548
So you hate the person and ignore his job performance... Pretty typical Hillary supporter... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,173
DrafterX wrote:
And explain how Hillary raising taxes would have boosted the stock market... Think

Obviously - Clinton’s taxes on BUISNESSES would have never passed the GOP congress.

And with the economic updraft of the Obama era things would be as they are - better in fact for the peeps.


Like you didn’t know....
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted:
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Posts: 98,548
So she wouldn't have helped us a bit... Got it... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,173
DrafterX wrote:
So you hate the person and ignore his job performance... Pretty typical Hillary supporter... Mellow

Dafter, I can honestly say that your deductive powers are unexcelled.

You should run for office.
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,548
I read a book... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
DrafterX wrote:
So you hate the person and ignore his job performance... Pretty typical Hillary supporter... Mellow


He has done absolutely nothing good in his job at this point. Where am I ignoring his job performance?

I didn't give a rats azz about the illegal population... so that is irrelevant.

I didn't like the ACA, but his backdoor destruction of it is going to do way more damage to americans than the implementation if it (just like his backdoor destruction of you is doing a lot of damage)

his "tax cut" is brilliant strategy. If the intent is to f%ck the people from california and new york this year, and f%ck the rest of the middle class in 8 years when it's someone else's problem. Seriously.... all that so you can get a few hundred dollars? Even a whore charges more.

he has lied at every step.

his children's companies, and his company (which has has not divested from) are making millions as people try to curry his favor.

The only thing the orange f$ckwad has done well is make sure he doesn't miss a t time.

And idiots are happy he's president because it "stings" people they apparently dislike more than the health of their country.

You make me sick.
Brewha Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,173
DrafterX wrote:
I read a book... Mellow

Was it both fair....AND balanced?
DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted:
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Posts: 98,548
LOL
Phil222 Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2017
Posts: 1,911
Job growth and wage growth are both down when compared with Obama's last year...and half the country doesn't even own stock. We lost 93,000 more jobs to outsourcing last year surpassing Obama's averages over his tenure...Look at the public support for any recent legislation passed in this country...the vast majority of the country does not like what is going on...Not talking

Other than that I guess we're doing pretty well though...and my glass is not half-empty; it's empty. Beer
victor809 Offline
#61 Posted:
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Posts: 23,866
Not to mention his constant undermining of the press with the percentage of people who listen to and believe the f#kwad orange moron...

His use of simultaneously lying while accusing the journalists of being "fake news" is insulting to the intelligence of everyone (other than those who voted for him).
DrafterX Offline
#62 Posted:
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Posts: 98,548
You would have hated anyone who beat Hillary. It's not Trump... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#63 Posted:
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Posts: 12,173
Victor, Trump is making America Great Again - for the owners.
You and me are supposed to get effed. That would be GREAT - for the Waltons, Morgan’s, etc - the only real Americans.

Making that work takes conning and chumping the low brow voters - and he is a master at that.




Say - did you know that wind mills kill bald eagles?
Phil222 Offline
#64 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2017
Posts: 1,911
https://thegrio.com/2018/01/06/fox-news-admits-job-growth-stronger-obama-trump/
Brewha Offline
#65 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,173
DrafterX wrote:
You would have hated anyone who beat Hillary. It's not Trump... Mellow

So, like you really have an Odeipus thing going on - right?
Phil222 Offline
#66 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2017
Posts: 1,911
DrafterX wrote:
Less peoples on da welfare... Mellow


Corporate welfare is WAY up...but as long as we take away those kid's school lunches and stuff.
Kawaksback Offline
#67 Posted:
Joined: 12-14-2017
Posts: 48
victor809 wrote:
You're also an idiot if you think that.


Oops, 70k more idiots! Ahh, just gets better all the time snowflake

Trump Enters Stadium for College National Championship to Cheers, Sings National Anthem

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-avg-fh_lsonsw&hsimp=yhs-fh_lsonsw&hspart=avg&p=president+trump+gets+ovation+at+college+game#action=view&id=1&vid=f8ccba503c5d86ea6c29501b68adc3bf

Phil222 Offline
#68 Posted:
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Posts: 1,911
Nice of him to take a break from golfing...
Brewha Offline
#69 Posted:
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Posts: 12,173
Ok, so checkers sells more than chess.

Story of our country....
Phil222 Offline
#70 Posted:
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Posts: 1,911
http://trumpgolfcount.com/

46 million?!? I've seen his short-game...that money was not well spent.
tailgater Offline
#71 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
banderl wrote:
Anyone who backs him.


Didn't mean to confuse you with logic.



tailgater Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Phil222 wrote:
I wonder why? Cool

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.4cffa8661a96

Let's say you had a boss or employee who told almost 6 false or misleading statements to you every single day since you hired him over a year ago...would you believe anything that came out of their mouths?

And let's say that WP is being a little to aggressive in their Trump count and cut that number in half. That is still around 3 statements per-day. Forget liberals, I don't see how anyone can take him seriously.


Take my post in its entirety.
I didn't say anyone should believe him.
But if you literally don't believe anything he says, then you shouldn't be hanging on every syllable.

They don't (believe) and they do (salivate).

It's comical, but the irony is lost on the partisan fools.

tailgater Offline
#73 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Brewha wrote:
I’m with banderl on this.
But, when it comes to unstable, what about Trumps knuckle dragging supporters?
Talk about stupid and crazy.....


This is how you lost the election: attack the voters.

Keep it up and we'll see 4 additional years.

Not sure how the left don't understand this.

tailgater Offline
#74 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
Posts: 26,185
Brewha wrote:
Giving money to corporations is GOOD.....




So the government is writing checks to corporations?

Awesome. Can't wait for mine.





You complain when corporations move operations out of the country, and then you complain when they're given an incentive to stay.

Don't get me wrong. I haven't studied the tax bill. I'm not commenting whether it's good or bad. But you're saying it's bad simply because it is favorable to corporations. Yet, that may be a good thing. Or not.
Tell us WHY it's bad to provide tax incentives to corporations.



Kawaksback Offline
#75 Posted:
Joined: 12-14-2017
Posts: 48
victor809 wrote:
He has done absolutely nothing good in his job at this point. Where am I ignoring his job performance?

I didn't give a rats azz about the illegal population... so that is irrelevant.

I didn't like the ACA, but his backdoor destruction of it is going to do way more damage to americans than the implementation if it (just like his backdoor destruction of you is doing a lot of damage)

his "tax cut" is brilliant strategy. If the intent is to f%ck the people from california and new york this year, and f%ck the rest of the middle class in 8 years when it's someone else's problem. Seriously.... all that so you can get a few hundred dollars? Even a whore charges more.

he has lied at every step.

his children's companies, and his company (which has has not divested from) are making millions as people try to curry his favor.

The only thing the orange f$ckwad has done well is make sure he doesn't miss a t time.

And idiots are happy he's president because it "stings" people they apparently dislike more than the health of their country.

You make me sick.


Hahahahaha! I'm melting, I'm melting!



President Trump’s 100 Days of Historic Accomplishments


GETTING GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE WAY: President Donald J. Trump has done more to stop the Government from interfering in the lives of Americans in his first 100 days than any other President in history.
•President Trump has signed 13 Congressional Review Act (CRA) resolutions in his first 100 days, more than any other President. These resolutions nullified unnecessary regulations and block agencies from reissuing them. •Since CRA resolutions were introduced under President Clinton, they’ve been used only once, under President George W. Bush.

•The Wall Street Journal editorial: “So far the Trump Administration is a welcome improvement, rolling back more regulations than any President in history.”

TAKING EXECUTIVE ACTION: In office, President Trump has accomplished more in his first 100 days than any other President since Franklin Roosevelt.
•President Trump will have signed 30 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Obama signed 19 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President George W. Bush signed 11 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Clinton signed 13 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President George H.W. Bush signed 11 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Reagan signed 18 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Carter signed 16 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Nixon signed 15 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Johnson signed 26 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Kennedy signed 23 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Eisenhower signed 20 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Truman signed 25 executive orders during his first 100 days.
•President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed 9 executive orders during his first 100 days.


A SLEW OF LEGISLATION SIGNED: Despite historic Democrat obstructionism, President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman.
•President Trump has worked with Congress to enact 28 laws during the first 100 days of his Administration.
•President Obama enacted 11 laws during his first 100 days.
•President George W. Bush enacted 7 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Clinton enacted 24 laws during his first 100 days.
•President George H.W. Bush enacted 18 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Reagan enacted 9 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Carter enacted 22 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Nixon enacted 9 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Johnson enacted 10 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Kennedy enacted 26 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Eisenhower enacted 22 laws during his first 100 days.
•President Truman enacted 55 bills laws during his first 100 days.


The economy has come roaring back to life under President Trump. The stock market has hit record high after record high, helping more Americans build wealth and secure their futures. Through needed tax cuts and reform, the Administration will bring jobs back to our country. The President is helping U.S. workers by expanding apprenticeship programs, reforming job training programs, and bringing businesses and educators together to ensure high-quality classroom instruction and on-the-job training.


The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act was signed into law on December 22, 2017, enacting several tax cuts and tax reforms.
•Corporate tax rates: •The top statutory Federal corporate tax rate was reduced from 35 to 21 percent, putting America’s corporate tax rate below the OECD average. Previously, our effective rate had been the highest in the OECD, which put America’s businesses and the workers they employ at a disadvantage in the global economy.
•The new tax law also entails significant international reforms – a territorial tax system, deemed repatriation, and anti-base erosion rules. Shifting from a worldwide system to a territorial system ends the penalty on headquartering a company in the United States. All of these items will keep American jobs in America.

•On the individual side: •Tax Cuts and Jobs Act nearly doubles the standard deduction, simplifying tax filing and lowering the burden of tax compliance for millions of American families.
•Every income group experiences a tax cut.
•The child tax credit doubles to $2000, expands to benefit more families, and becomes refundable to more of those who are eligible to benefit from it and the refund amount is increasing. These reforms to the child tax credit help America’s working families keep more of the paychecks they earn.
•The new law maintains a number of popular tax benefits. These include the: mortgage interest deduction, charitable giving deduction, the Earned Income Tax Credit, adoption expense credit, child and dependent care tax credit, tax benefits for retirement saving, and many others.


Where Have We Been

Wage growth has been stagnant for much of the past two decade. Between the business cycle peaks in 2007 and 2016, wage growth was negative: the first time this has happened between business cycle peaks since at least 1980, according to CEA’s analysis. The question then becomes: why did wage growth recently depart from its historical trajectory?



One possible answer suggests itself from trends in capital deepening, which measures capital per worker. Capital per worker influences wage growth by influencing productivity: as workers have more capital, they can produce more stuff per hour, and their employers can afford to compensate them more per hour.



Note: Capital deepening is the contribution to labor productivity growth of more capital per worker hour. Labor productivity growth is in the private non-farm business sector. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics, Net Multifactor Productivity and Cost; CEA calculations

Much as wage growth turned negative recently, so did capital deepening turn negative for the first time since WWII in 2014. It is possible the overlap between these two aberrations is a coincidence.

It is, however, also possible that policies that discouraged the investment of capital in America played a role. One of these was America’s corporate tax rate. But, with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act now enacted, America’s corporate tax position stands to encourage rather than discourage investment and therefore wage growth in America.



Meanwhile, America’s broken corporate tax system also inflated America’s trade deficit.



Where Are We Going

The evidence suggests that the effects of a corporate tax rate cut are large. The corporate income tax base stands to increase, allowing America’s tax rate to fall while revenues remain unchanged.



Notes: Figures show responses to a 1-percentage point cut in the average corporate income tax rate. Solid lines are point estimates; dotted lines indicate 95 percent confidence intervals. Red lines are estimates and intervals with average corporate tax rate ordered first, blue lines estimates and intervals with average income tax rate ordered first. For example, the left figure shows that this is a small jump in revenue in the quarters immediately following the decrease in the corporate tax rate but this increase is not statistically different from zero (zero is inside the band created by the upper and lower dashed lines). Source: Mertens and Ravn (2013)

As the government tends not to lose money, the government does not experience an increase in debt from a corporate tax cut, according to this evidence. Nor does the government experience a rise in interest rates.



Notes: Figures show responses to a 1-percentage point cut in the average corporate income tax rate. Solid lines are point estimates; dotted lines indicate 95 percent confidence intervals. Red lines are estimates and intervals with average corporate tax rate ordered first, blue lines estimates and intervals with average income tax rate ordered first. .Source: Mertens and Ravn (2013)

Now that the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act stands to deliver these benefits, GDP growth forecasts of Wall Street’s largest banks (Bulge Bracket firms) are up from an average 1.9 percent in October 2016 to nearly 2.5 percent in January 2018.



These echo the results of CEA’s previous analysis, which suggested that that corporate tax reform will increase GDP growth by 0.3 to 0.5 percent this year. While CEA did not model the individual growth rate effects, other economists like Barro and Redlick (2011) estimate that the individual side of the reform will add an additional 0.8 percent growth through 2019.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/tax-reform-going/
banderl Offline
#76 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Whitehouse.gov?

LMFAO!

Is Joseph Goebbels still around?
I want to get the real story about the Nazis from him.
victor809 Offline
#77 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
tailgater wrote:
Take my post in its entirety.
I didn't say anyone should believe him.
But if you literally don't believe anything he says, then you shouldn't be hanging on every syllable.



This is dumb and faulty logic.

Whether he is lying or not, he is the president of the us. we as a population should be listening to every official statement the president of the us makes (and tweets are now official statements, because our orange f$$ktard of a president can't craft anything more than a tweet).

Your statement is the equivalent of saying "since you know he's going to lie you should just stick your head in the sand and pretend he isn't lying every day". That's just moronic. Every dumb lie this F^$ktard of a cheeto makes needs to be identified and publicized so that the halfwits who voted for him will have a record later.
victor809 Offline
#78 Posted:
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Posts: 23,866
tailgater wrote:
This is how you lost the election: attack the voters.

Keep it up and we'll see 4 additional years.

Not sure how the left don't understand this.



I hope we see another 4 years. We need to. Ideally I'd like the orange f%cktard to serve 12 years.
He needs to be around to see the results of his actions, or he'll just claim it isn't his fault and blame anyone else. The halfwits who voted for him need to feel the full repercussions of voting for an orange f%cktard with no grasp of reality, otherwise we'll have this happen again and again. The actions he has already taken will hurt them in the long term. He needs to still be in office when it does, or they'll blame a democrat and elect someone even stupider.

This president was a massive error in our system. Unless our nation learns a lesson from it, we will have another f^cktard again, possibly a worse one.

jjanecka Offline
#79 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2015
Posts: 4,334
Don't forget 4% unemployment overall and 3.3% unemployment overall for Black Americans. There aren't as many jobs being created because we simply no longer have the unemployed workforce!
TMCTLT Offline
#80 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
victor809 wrote:
I hope we see another 4 years. We need to. Ideally I'd like the orange f%cktard to serve 12 years.
He needs to be around to see the results of his actions, or he'll just claim it isn't his fault and blame anyone else. The halfwits who voted for him need to feel the full repercussions of voting for an orange f%cktard with no grasp of reality, otherwise we'll have this happen again and again. The actions he has already taken will hurt them in the long term. He needs to still be in office when it does, or they'll blame a democrat and elect someone even stupider.

This president was a massive error in our system. Unless our nation learns a lesson from it, we will have another f^cktard again, possibly a worse one.





You should be QUITE used to F*ckTards....it's all you folks out there in Kookifornipornia elect. Whistle

victor809 Offline
#81 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
Kawaksback wrote:
Hahahahaha! I'm melting, I'm melting!



https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/tax-reform-going/



pure tripe.
If Obama had claimed those same "historic accomplishments" you would have been calling for a revolution.
"most legislation passed"? If the bills are bad, is it really better that you pass more of them? If they're completely irrelevant, does it matter you've done a whole lot?

"most regulations nullified".... the same... it's a dumb measure because it assumes, with no proof, that removing the regulation is a good thing.

"most executive orders"? You f%%king moron. You were probably one of the people screaming bloody murder about how many executive orders obama signed. Now you're happy trump has signed more?

The tax law is a brilliant way to F%ck the Californians and new yorkers now, while waiting 8 years for an administration change to f%ck the rest of the middle class. To brag about it is idiotic. More importantly... do you really think now is the time for anyone to be trying to get tax breaks? We should be trying to pay down our debt. Reduce spending and keep or increase the collection of revenue. Don't cut revenue and keep spending the same. f^cking democrat.

The fact that you think any of this is a sign we're doing well means you're just a partisan hack.
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
TCBY wrote:
You should be QUITE used to F*ckTards....you have to read my posts on cigarbid all the time. :-"



fixed it for you.
Kawaksback Offline
#83 Posted:
Joined: 12-14-2017
Posts: 48
banderl wrote:
Whitehouse.gov?

LMFAO!

Is Joseph Goebbels still around?
I want to get the real story about the Nazis from him.


Hahah, Melting, melting

Waaaaaahhhhhh....Nazi's
Waaaaaahhhhhh....White Supremacist
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Racists
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Tax cuts for rich
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Undocumented not illegal
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Corporations evil
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Big Oil
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Stupid
Waaaaaahhhhhh....If you like your doctor
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Women and childrens gonna die
banderl Offline
#84 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Kawaksback wrote:
Hahah, Melting, melting

Waaaaaahhhhhh....Nazi's
Waaaaaahhhhhh....White Supremacist
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Racists
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Tax cuts for rich
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Undocumented not illegal
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Corporations evil
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Big Oil
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Stupid
Waaaaaahhhhhh....If you like your doctor
Waaaaaahhhhhh....Women and childrens gonna die



Not surprisingly, my comment went right over your head.
victor809 Offline
#85 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
banderl wrote:
Not surprisingly, my comment went right over your head.


I wouldn't expect anything else.
TMCTLT Offline
#86 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
victor809 wrote:
pure tripe.
If Obama had claimed those same "historic accomplishments" you would have been calling for a revolution.
"most legislation passed"? If the bills are bad, is it really better that you pass more of them? If they're completely irrelevant, does it matter you've done a whole lot?

"most regulations nullified".... the same... it's a dumb measure because it assumes, with no proof, that removing the regulation is a good thing.

"most executive orders"? You f%%king moron. You were probably one of the people screaming bloody murder about how many executive orders obama signed. Now you're happy trump has signed more?

The tax law is a brilliant way to F%ck the Californians and new yorkers now, while waiting 8 years for an administration change to f%ck the rest of the middle class. To brag about it is idiotic. More importantly... do you really think now is the time for anyone to be trying to get tax breaks? We should be trying to pay down our debt. Reduce spending and keep or increase the collection of revenue. Don't cut revenue and keep spending the same. f^cking democrat.

The fact that you think any of this is a sign we're doing well means you're just a partisan hack.



AWESOME SAUCE!!! You F*cktards and your super-dense welfare ridden ****-holes that the DNC obviously PREFERS over fly-over America. Thankfully our Founders had enough foresight ( and no doubt memory of what they left behind in Britain ) to give us the Electoral College to save the rest of the country from the Welfare dense Democratic voting ****-holes you seem to prefer.
banderl Offline
#87 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
The 10 states receiving the most in federal aid as a percentage of their general revenue, in order, were:

Mississippi, 42.9% federal aid as percentage of general revenue
Louisiana, 41.9%
Tennessee, 39.5%
South Dakota, 39.0%
Missouri, 38.2%
Montana, 37.4%
Georgia, 37.3%
New Mexico, 36.6%
Alabama, 36.1%
Maine, 35.3%

Kawaksback Offline
#88 Posted:
Joined: 12-14-2017
Posts: 48
banderl wrote:
Not surprisingly, my comment went right over your head.




Waaahhhh...CNN
Waaahhhh...MSNBC
Waaahhhh...NBC
Waaahhhh...All Media
Waaahhhh...Robert Gibbs
Waaahhhh...Jay Carney
Waaahhhh...Josh Ernest
Waaahhhh....Comey
Waaahhhh...Mueller
Waaahhh...Podesta
Waaahhh...Hezbollah
victor809 Offline
#89 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
TMCTLT wrote:
AWESOME SAUCE!!! You F*cktards and your super-dense welfare ridden ****-holes that the DNC obviously PREFERS over fly-over America. Thankfully our Founders had enough foresight ( and no doubt memory of what they left behind in Britain ) to give us the Electoral College to save the rest of the country from the Welfare dense Democratic voting ****-holes you seem to prefer.


See... the party of trolling.
You're excited about a bill because it hurts people you don't like.

That doesn't make you a good person, or someone who makes decisions for the good of the country.

It makes you a troll. And a tool, because you're willing to get f%%ked in 8 years just so someone else can get f%%ked now.

Sad. Tool.
banderl Offline
#90 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Indiana is #10 on this list:
https://www.cheatsheet.com/culture/states-dependent-on-federal-government.html/?a=viewall
banderl Offline
#91 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Kawaksback wrote:
Waaahhhh...CNN
Waaahhhh...MSNBC
Waaahhhh...NBC
Waaahhhh...All Media
Waaahhhh...Robert Gibbs
Waaahhhh...Jay Carney
Waaahhhh...Josh Ernest
Waaahhhh....Comey
Waaahhhh...Mueller
Waaahhh...Podesta
Waaahhh...Hezbollah



Wipe the orange off of your lips and get back to your special ed class.
My post had nothing to do with any of your nonsense.
victor809 Offline
#92 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
The tools don't care about reality... it doesn't matter.

All that matters is that they are sure CA and NY are welfare states, and they gonna try to make sure they can screw them as much as possible. They'll even let trump take a turn at their butthole in 8 years just so it can happen.

Sad.
Kawaksback Offline
#93 Posted:
Joined: 12-14-2017
Posts: 48
banderl wrote:
The 10 states receiving the most in federal aid as a percentage of their general revenue, in order, were:

Mississippi, 42.9% federal aid as percentage of general revenue
Louisiana, 41.9%
Tennessee, 39.5%
South Dakota, 39.0%
Missouri, 38.2%
Montana, 37.4%
Georgia, 37.3%
New Mexico, 36.6%
Alabama, 36.1%
Maine, 35.3%



A new study from George Mason University’s Mercatus Center confirms what many of us already knew:
Liberal “blue states” are fiscally irresponsible.

In fact, 11 of the 14 least fiscally solvent states are also on the list of the “dirty dozen” most liberal blue states. In descending order of fiscal irresponsibility, from 50th to 37th, here’s the list of fiscal shame:


#50 ILLINOIS
#49 NEW JERSEY
#48 MASSACHUSETTS
#47 CONNECTICUT
#46 NEW YORK
#44 CALIFORNIA
#42 MAINE
#40 HAWAII
#39 VERMONT
#38 RHODE ISLAND
#37 MARYLAND

The 12th state in the “dirty dozen” list—Delaware—does not fare particularly well either, placing 30th out of the 50 states.

(In an article published on 4th of July, I offered a definition of these “dirty dozen” to include those states that gave President Obama more than 56.2 percent of the vote in the 2012 Presidential election.)

The Mercatus Center report ranked the 50 states “based on their fiscal solvency in five separate categories:”

(1) Cash solvency. Does a state have enough cash on hand to cover its short-term bills?
(2) Budget solvency. Can a state cover its fiscal year spending with current revenues? Or does it have a budget shortfall?
(3) Long-run solvency. Can a state meet its long-term spending commitments? Will there be enough money to cushion it from economic shocks or other long-term fiscal risks?
(4) Service-level solvency. How much fiscal “slack” does a state have to increase spending should citizens demand more services?
(5) Trust fund solvency. How much debt does a state have? How large are its unfunded pen­sion and health care liabilities?

The Mercatus Center report
One hundred and fifty years after the end of the Civil War, it is becoming increasingly clear that there are two Americas—one [consisting of the “Great 38 States” in flyover country which President Obama either lost or obtained less than 56.2 percent of the vote in the 2012 Presidential election] where the principles of constitutionally limited government and individual liberty are still revered, the other [those “dirty dozen” liberal blue states] where statism and the trampling of individual rights are on the rise.

The “dirty dozen” liberal blue states are headed towards the sort of fiscal insolvency now unraveling the country of Greece, and their fiscal recklessness may well drag down the entire federal government as well. All the more reason for the rest of us in the “Great 38 States” to consider convening an Assembly of the States so that fiscally responsible states can assert their sovereign rights guaranteed by the 10th amendment. Those sovereign rights include the right not to be forced to pay for another state’s profligacy


Poverty Rank City Democrat Since

1 Detroit, MI 1961
2 Buffalo, NY 1954
3 Cincinnati, OH 1984
4 Cleveland, OH 1989
5 Miami, FL forever
6 St. Louis, MO 1949
7 El Paso, TX forever
8 Milwaukee, WI 1908
9 Philadelphia, PA 1952
10 Newark, NJ 1907
victor809 Offline
#94 Posted:
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You know a study is going to be completely honest and unbiased when it identifies the two groups as "the dirty dozen" and "the great 38".

Wow... you really aren't very clever.
jjanecka Offline
#95 Posted:
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Oprah 2020
victor809 Offline
#96 Posted:
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Interestingly... if these states are run so fiscally unsoundly, at least they're using their own money to do so.

Meanwhile, you have no retort to the fact that the conservative states are taking money from the federal government, not putting it back in. The entire discussion is around federal taxes and their relationship to state taxes, and whether those states are "welfare states". The evidence shows that those states pay for themselves, and do NOT take nearly as much federal aid per capita as the flyover states.... it's the flyover states which are welfare states, taking more and putting less in to the federal governemnt. Those freeloaders should be taxed more.
victor809 Offline
#97 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
jjanecka wrote:
Oprah 2020


I really f^king hope not.
She may win.... the orange f^^ktard needs to complete all 8 years.
TMCTLT Offline
#98 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
victor809 wrote:
You know a study is going to be completely honest and unbiased when it identifies the two groups as "the dirty dozen" and "the great 38".

Wow... you really aren't very clever.




There must be some REAL truth in what he laid down there.....shortest....less windiest reply from you to DATE.
So you take issue with the names given the two groups but admit that the information itself is correct?
banderl Offline
#99 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Kawaksback wrote:
A new study from George Mason University’s Mercatus Center confirms what many of us already knew:
Liberal “blue states” are fiscally irresponsible.

In fact, 11 of the 14 least fiscally solvent states are also on the list of the “dirty dozen” most liberal blue states. In descending order of fiscal irresponsibility, from 50th to 37th, here’s the list of fiscal shame:


#50 ILLINOIS
#49 NEW JERSEY
#48 MASSACHUSETTS
#47 CONNECTICUT
#46 NEW YORK
#44 CALIFORNIA
#42 MAINE
#40 HAWAII
#39 VERMONT
#38 RHODE ISLAND
#37 MARYLAND

The 12th state in the “dirty dozen” list—Delaware—does not fare particularly well either, placing 30th out of the 50 states.

(In an article published on 4th of July, I offered a definition of these “dirty dozen” to include those states that gave President Obama more than 56.2 percent of the vote in the 2012 Presidential election.)

The Mercatus Center report ranked the 50 states “based on their fiscal solvency in five separate categories:”

(1) Cash solvency. Does a state have enough cash on hand to cover its short-term bills?
(2) Budget solvency. Can a state cover its fiscal year spending with current revenues? Or does it have a budget shortfall?
(3) Long-run solvency. Can a state meet its long-term spending commitments? Will there be enough money to cushion it from economic shocks or other long-term fiscal risks?
(4) Service-level solvency. How much fiscal “slack” does a state have to increase spending should citizens demand more services?
(5) Trust fund solvency. How much debt does a state have? How large are its unfunded pen­sion and health care liabilities?

The Mercatus Center report
One hundred and fifty years after the end of the Civil War, it is becoming increasingly clear that there are two Americas—one [consisting of the “Great 38 States” in flyover country which President Obama either lost or obtained less than 56.2 percent of the vote in the 2012 Presidential election] where the principles of constitutionally limited government and individual liberty are still revered, the other [those “dirty dozen” liberal blue states] where statism and the trampling of individual rights are on the rise.

The “dirty dozen” liberal blue states are headed towards the sort of fiscal insolvency now unraveling the country of Greece, and their fiscal recklessness may well drag down the entire federal government as well. All the more reason for the rest of us in the “Great 38 States” to consider convening an Assembly of the States so that fiscally responsible states can assert their sovereign rights guaranteed by the 10th amendment. Those sovereign rights include the right not to be forced to pay for another state’s profligacy


Poverty Rank City Democrat Since

1 Detroit, MI 1961
2 Buffalo, NY 1954
3 Cincinnati, OH 1984
4 Cleveland, OH 1989
5 Miami, FL forever
6 St. Louis, MO 1949
7 El Paso, TX forever
8 Milwaukee, WI 1908
9 Philadelphia, PA 1952
10 Newark, NJ 1907


How many of them have their hands out for Fed help?
RMAN4443 Offline
#100 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
victor809 wrote:
I hope we see another 4 years. We need to. Ideally I'd like the orange f%cktard to serve 12 years.
He needs to be around to see the results of his actions, or he'll just claim it isn't his fault and blame anyone else. The halfwits who voted for him need to feel the full repercussions of voting for an orange f%cktard with no grasp of reality, otherwise we'll have this happen again and again. The actions he has already taken will hurt them in the long term. He needs to still be in office when it does, or they'll blame a democrat and elect someone even stupider.

This president was a massive error in our system. Unless our nation learns a lesson from it, we will have another f^cktard again, possibly a worse one.


Obama can't run again.........but I guess his wife couldd'oh!
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