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opelmanta1900 Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:04 PM EST
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How retarded can kids be? Apparently this retarded...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/10/basketball-recreation-team-booted-from-league-over-racist-derogatory-jerseys.html

An Ohio basketball team was kicked out of its recreational league for sporting racist and offensive jerseys.

The team, made up of high school-aged students, showed up for a regular game on Sunday as part of the Cincinnati Premier Youth Basketball League wearing jerseys that read “Wet Dream Team” in the front.

While some considered the name to be sexual in nature, it was the names in the back of their jerseys that sparked outrage.

In place of the players’ real names, at least three jerseys showed terms like “Knee Grow” and “Coon.”

Tony Rue, a parent of a student in the opposing team, took photos of the jerseys and shared them on social media.

“A Rec league or not, please explain how this is even remotely considered appropriate for a high school basketball game,” he wrote on Facebook. “From a team name referencing sexual conduct to offensive and racist nicknames.”

He continued: “Could you imagine being an African American high school kid and seeing these things on the jerseys of the team you are playing and how uncomfortable and unsafe they would feel??”

Rue told FOX 19 that it was a racism and bullying “wrapped into one.”

"They were trying to say it was their last name, it was in joking fashion," Rue added. "Then their parents came over, and they were mad about paying the $7 entry fee and not completing the game."

League officials shut down the game and have dismissed the team from league, FOX 19 reported.

“Based on the information that we received, the actions and conduct of the team in question did not comply with our stated mission and expected standards and that team has, therefore, been dismissed from our league,” the league said in a statement.

The teams were made up of students from West Clermont High School and Kings High – neither are affiliates with the school districts, other than renting space and having players who are students.

Despite no affiliation with the league, a spokeswoman for the Kings school district released a statement on Monday.

“Kings Local Schools strongly condemns any type of hateful and racist commentary. This behavior is in no way welcome or tolerated in our schools and community,” the statement said.

The team’s coach released a statement through Charisse Middletown, coordinator for Kings Rec Basketball.

“We sincerely apologize to anyone that was offended by the jerseys. We offered to cover them up or change, however the league saw fit to remove us and we have accepted the decision,” it said.
teedubbya Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:05 PM EST
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there were good people on all sides.... all sides
opelmanta1900 Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:24 PM EST
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Did the opposing team's parents and fans form a circle around them?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:25 PM EST
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Guess it would've had to be more of a square or rectangle... circles don't have sides...
TMCTLT Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:28 PM EST
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Why is this considered political?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:29 PM EST
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Because you commented on it...
TMCTLT Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:34 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Because you commented on it...



OK just checking fog
victor809 Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:41 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Why is this considered political?


Racism became political once one party embraced it.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:44 PM EST
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Damn whigs...
TMCTLT Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 12:49 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Racism became political once one party embraced it.



Yeah...friggin Dems d'oh!
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 1:34 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
there were good people on all sides.... all sides

coyright infringement?
delta1 Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 1:34 PM EST
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Reminds me of some people at work more than 30 years ago who groused about a holiday for slain civil rights leader, MLK. They liked another paid day off, but not to honor him, derisively nicknaming the holiday Martin Luther Coon day. Pretty sure they all voted GOP...
teedubbya Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 1:37 PM EST
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I remember when AZ didn't honor the MLK holiday and the NFL decided to take a stance. The NFL was doomed to fail as a result. Folks hair was on fire as they were screaming about the racist NFLand states rights. Then AZ caved and the NFL is still doing pretty well.

the more things change......
dstieger Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 1:41 PM EST
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What race is Tony Rue?
ZRX1200 Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 1:44 PM EST
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Unsafe, because of letters on a jersey?

What a nation of pansyasses.

Not school affiliated and the Principle feels obligated STILL to issue a statement?

Oh has the worm turned from the counterculture of the 60 to those same people being the PC Nazis.
teedubbya Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:04 PM EST
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I dunno. I think PC crap is retarded for the most part. But that doesn't mean there are not repercussions for being stupid, which this was. It was over the line.
victor809 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:08 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Yeah...friggin Dems d'oh!



Yeah... lots of dems in those neo-nazi and "alt right" rallies.

friggin idiots d'oh!
victor809 Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:10 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Unsafe, because of letters on a jersey?

What a nation of pansyasses.

Not school affiliated and the Principle feels obligated STILL to issue a statement?

Oh has the worm turned from the counterculture of the 60 to those same people being the PC Nazis.


Dude...
I'm pretty sure "unsafe" refers to the implications of the person writing the name.

Do you think a black guy would feel safe at a KKK rally?

I mean... it's just sheets... what a pansyass.
dstieger Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:15 PM EST
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How many "African American high school kid and seeing these things on the jerseys" were there at the gym?



And, Victor, why would a black guy go to a KKK rally?
victor809 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:18 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
How many "African American high school kid and seeing these things on the jerseys" were there at the gym?



And, Victor, why would a black guy go to a KKK rally?



I think you asked the same question twice....
dstieger Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:28 PM EST
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3 times, if you include 14.

If a person says a 'racist slur' in the woods, did a tree fall?

I fully acknowledge the idiocy and support some sort of sanction or punishment. But, like ZRX, I think we are past the point of appropriate reactions to things. The conversation about what's offensive and what's ok in today's society is a good one. But, so is a conversation about whether its ok to criticize those that take 'being offended' to a whole other level. I think its ok to take a step back and sort of assess 'standing', like in courts.

Being offensive beyond some reasonable standard is bad. But so is overreaction - especially by someone who shouldn't be offended (according to some gray reasonableness standard)....or have any responsibility or harm.

And the principal covering his ass falls within that second category, IMO
TMCTLT Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:31 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Dude...
I'm pretty sure "unsafe" refers to the implications of the person writing the name.

Do you think a black guy would feel safe at a KKK rally?

I mean... it's just sheets... what a pansyass.




I won't PRETEND to know the answer to that....neither should YOU.
Probably depends a LOT on the individual.
But then I forget nothing is dealt with singularly or by itself as it should be any longer....it goes to the GROUP THOUGHT PANEL and is dissected along racial lines.


Good Boy Victor....your well trained. " When discussing Black / White interactions "

NEVER FORGET TO INSERT THE NAZI TALKING POINTS


GOOD BOY!!!!!!
victor809 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:46 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
3 times, if you include 14.

If a person says a 'racist slur' in the woods, did a tree fall?

I fully acknowledge the idiocy and support some sort of sanction or punishment. But, like ZRX, I think we are past the point of appropriate reactions to things. The conversation about what's offensive and what's ok in today's society is a good one. But, so is a conversation about whether its ok to criticize those that take 'being offended' to a whole other level. I think its ok to take a step back and sort of assess 'standing', like in courts.

Being offensive beyond some reasonable standard is bad. But so is overreaction - especially by someone who shouldn't be offended (according to some gray reasonableness standard)....or have any responsibility or harm.

And the principal covering his ass falls within that second category, IMO


Principal is irrelevant. His opinion doesn't really matter, and the only reason he gave one is likely because he was asked.

But, assuming there's one black player, or black spectator involved in this game... they are walking into a situation with a reasonable expectation that it isn't actively supporting racism.

Then they see a jersey with "coon" written on it.

I would expect that would make them second guess their original reasonable expectation that it wasn't actively supporting racism, and lead them to wonder whether they are safe from the people who like to use racist terms, and the other people around them who clearly supported the idea of using a racist term.


I don't see how this is hard to understand... and exceeds the idea of "being offended".

If it were just wet dreams... or wet dreams an knee grow... sure... that's offensive and stupid. "coon" probably put it over the edge

But on the other hand... you are complaining about "overreaction".
What was the consequence? They didn't get to play? That's not exactly a life-changing consequence. I think you're overreacting to the reaction....
Seems to me that they got to learn a valuable lesson in not being stupid, without it having a lasting impact on their lives.
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:50 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
I won't PRETEND to know the answer to that....neither should YOU.
Probably depends a LOT on the individual.


dude....
did you just try to make the argument that whether a black guy would feel comfortable at a KKK rally "depends on the individual?

While technically correct.... I think any rational person can state that an overwhelming majority of black people would not feel safe around a group that wants to lynch black people. To pretend otherwise is just... dumb.

TCBY wrote:

My favorite is when mommy lets me make mud pies in the yard.

I wear my helmet to keep me safe.

The secret ingredient is cat poop!

POTATO!

The rest of your inane word salad is just... inane
tailgater Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 2:52 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
3 times, if you include 14.

If a person says a 'racist slur' in the woods, did a tree fall?

I fully acknowledge the idiocy and support some sort of sanction or punishment. But, like ZRX, I think we are past the point of appropriate reactions to things. The conversation about what's offensive and what's ok in today's society is a good one. But, so is a conversation about whether its ok to criticize those that take 'being offended' to a whole other level. I think its ok to take a step back and sort of assess 'standing', like in courts.

Being offensive beyond some reasonable standard is bad. But so is overreaction - especially by someone who shouldn't be offended (according to some gray reasonableness standard)....or have any responsibility or harm.

And the principal covering his ass falls within that second category, IMO


This.
TMCTLT Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 3:10 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
dude....
did you just try to make the argument that whether a black guy would feel comfortable at a KKK rally "depends on the individual?

While technically correct.... I think any rational person can state that an overwhelming majority of black people would not feel safe around a group that wants to lynch black people. To pretend otherwise is just... dumb.


The rest of your inane word salad is just... inane




You left out DumbfuckinidiotNazi....
banderl Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 3:11 PM EST
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"My favorite is when mommy lets me make mud pies in the yard.

I wear my helmet to keep me safe.

The secret ingredient is cat poop!

POTATO!"

Oh my God!!!!!!!!!

I'm on the floor, LMAO.
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 3:12 PM EST
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Eve body knows the blacks don’t play basketball. There prolly were none anywhere near that gym.

It’s not like their shirts said tard, downey or moonface
Kawaksback Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 3:29 PM EST
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Can't we all just get along....or look alike....
opelmanta1900 Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 3:58 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
How many "African American high school kid and seeing these things on the jerseys" were there at the gym?

Curious... in your mind, what's different if the answer is 0 vs if the answer is 100?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 3:59 PM EST
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Kawaksback wrote:
Can't we all just get along....

No Rodney, we can't.

Sincerely,

The Pool
Phil222 Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 4:03 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
there were good people on all sides.... all sides


Bahahahaha!
dstieger Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 4:27 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Curious... in your mind, what's different if the answer is 0 vs if the answer is 100?


See 21 above.

As to the stupidity of the action, there's little or no difference.

As to the degree of the 'offense', probably a great deal.
HuckFinn Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 4:54 PM EST
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Obama’s “That's not who we are” is probably incorrect.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 5:02 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
See 21 above.

As to the stupidity of the action, there's little or no difference.

As to the degree of the 'offense', probably a great deal.

I don't want to put words in your mouth... are you saying what happened is less unacceptable if it was a room full of non-black people as opposed to if there were black people present?
tailgater Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 5:23 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I don't want to put words in your mouth... are you saying what happened is less unacceptable if it was a room full of non-black people as opposed to if there were black people present?


It's bigoted and offensive no matter where it is.
So why does the parent even enter it into the equation?
There is no need. It is superfluous.

victor809 Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Jan 10 2018, 5:53 PM EST
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Honestly, the more I look at this article, the more I think it was a positive learning experience...

Some dumb-azz kids did a dumb-azz thing and got attention for their dumb-azzness. Hopefully none of them really are racists and were just using a racist term because they thought it was funny to offend people.

In this reasonably inconsequential environment of a non-school affiliated basketball league, they learned there are consequences to their dumb-azz actions and didn't get to play one game.

Minor consequences... none of it was affiliated with school so they didn't get any suspension, nothing that would impact their school record. They just didn't get to do a little fun stuff.

Anyone whining about "overreaction" on this maybe needs to recalibrate their priorities... not being able to play a basketball game is nothing compared to what could have happened to someone like that in the real world if they never learned this lesson.
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