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Florda Gulf Coast University offers course on "white racism"
Speyside Offline
#51 Posted:
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Huck, as a nation we have apologized for slavery. As a nation we have engaged in dialog about the wrongs done to black Americans. I don't see what more we should do.
HuckFinn Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
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tailgater wrote:
Tell me what I can do.

Specifically.

Because I don't see color as an issue. Good or bad.
But to you that means I'm part of the problem.

So tell me. Should I assume that every black person I meet needs empathy? Money? Words of encouragement?
Should I tell the colleges to give my kids merit scholarship to a black kid instead?

Tell me. Tell us.
Because up to now all you're saying is that we need to be remorseful without admitting guilt. Which makes my head spin.





A trap. Tell you something?
Google how the Germans dealt with the Holocaust after the war. Visit a Holocaust museum there and see how the guides speak about it. They're ashamed and sorry. And guess what?They didn't do it. Go to a southern plantation museum and see how proud they are about the main house and slave quarters and crops produced, the systems employed without mention of the atrocities that were committed there.
HuckFinn Offline
#53 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Huck, as a nation we have apologized for slavery. As a nation we have engaged in dialog about the wrongs done to black Americans. I don't see what more we should do.

Thing is, it doesn't matter to most people. We have no time for stuff like this. I get it.
I don't know how to improve race relations, I'm freewheeling here, but if everyone just searched slavery, the atrocities committed, I think between us we'd come up with something that works across the board.
It's just mind boggling what we did....
dstieger Offline
#54 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:

It's just mind boggling what we did....


We who?
HuckFinn Offline
#55 Posted:
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Yeah, I'm done.
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted:
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What happened was the style at the time... Slavery is older than prostitution... The Africans gad slaves also... It's not just an American thing... Mellow
tailgater Offline
#57 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
HuckFinn wrote:
A trap. Tell you something?
Google how the Germans dealt with the Holocaust after the war. Visit a Holocaust museum there and see how the guides speak about it. They're ashamed and sorry. And guess what?They didn't do it. Go to a southern plantation museum and see how proud they are about the main house and slave quarters and crops produced, the systems employed without mention of the atrocities that were committed there.


So you're dodging an honest question.

Don't tell me to do the research.
You are pointing fingers. I'm asking what to do. You say "google".

You either know what you want us (Me) to do, or you're just flapping your gums for attention.

tailgater Offline
#58 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Thing is, it doesn't matter to most people. We have no time for stuff like this. I get it.
I don't know how to improve race relations, I'm freewheeling here, but if everyone just searched slavery, the atrocities committed, I think between us we'd come up with something that works across the board.
It's just mind boggling what we did....


This is precious.

Someone says we don't need to be remorseful. No need to push this misguided agenda any further.

You insist, absolutely INSIST that we do more.

So we acquiesce.
We ask what we can do.

And you say "i was hoping you'd come up with something".

Precious.







HuckFinn Offline
#59 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
So you're dodging an honest question.

Don't tell me to do the research.
You are pointing fingers. I'm asking what to do. You say "google".

You either know what you want us (Me) to do, or you're just flapping your gums for attention.


Cut the crap. We both know you're asking a rhetorical question to fuel some girlish back and forth.
Google black anger.
Nm. They'll be okay.

tailgater Offline
#60 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Thing is, it doesn't matter to most people. We have no time for stuff like this. I get it.
I don't know how to improve race relations, I'm freewheeling here, but if everyone just searched slavery, the atrocities committed, I think between us we'd come up with something that works across the board.
It's just mind boggling what we did....


And on a more serious note:

I honestly don't think it's "mind boggling" what "we" did.

It is atrocious in hindsight, and as a northerner it's easy for me to say that I'd never have owned another human being.

But we can't judge yesterday's actions by the morality of today.

In 200 years we may learn that it's inhumane to catch, kill and eat fish (for instance).
With this news, people around the world stop eating fish.
Then they start pointing fingers towards heathens like HuckFinn, who eats fish twice a week.


I know. Fish and slavery. Apples/oranges. blah blah.
But the point remains.


With or without that gay guy (Lincoln), America was going to rise above slavery because of our collective moral compass. But to judge those who lived in a different time?
That's counterproductive at best.

tailgater Offline
#61 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
HuckFinn wrote:
Cut the crap. We both know you're asking a rhetorical question to fuel some girlish back and forth.
Google black anger.
Nm. They'll be okay.



Not rhetorical at all.
Not even close.

But at least you used a word correctly this time.

There's hope for you yet.

HuckFinn Offline
#62 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Not rhetorical at all.
Not even close.

But at least you used a word correctly this time.

There's hope for you yet.


Again. Boring.
tailgater Offline
#63 Posted:
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For the record, a true sign of insanity is when you initiate a discussion and then tell the other person to google something so you can make your point.

You told us to google something about Germany's (guiltless) remorse and now about black anger.

While I'm doing that, google GFYS.


HuckFinn Offline
#64 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
For the record, a true sign of insanity is when you initiate a discussion and then tell the other person to google something so you can make your point.

You told us to google something about Germany's (guiltless) remorse and now about black anger.

While I'm doing that, google GFYS.



Also posted links chit-for-brains
frankj1 Offline
#65 Posted:
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well this won't end well.
tailgater Offline
#66 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
A trap. Tell you something?
Google how the Germans dealt with the Holocaust after the war. Visit a Holocaust museum there and see how the guides speak about it. They're ashamed and sorry. And guess what?They didn't do it. Go to a southern plantation museum and see how proud they are about the main house and slave quarters and crops produced, the systems employed without mention of the atrocities that were committed there.




HuckFinn wrote:
Cut the crap. We both know you're asking a rhetorical question to fuel some girlish back and forth.
Google black anger.
Nm. They'll be okay.



Posted links? Hmmm. Did CBid remove them?

I honestly think you're just too f*cking stupid to see how stupid you really are.



tailgater Offline
#67 Posted:
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Frank, I think it's now time for you to apologize to HuckFinn.

You know.
Because I made him cry.
So you have to be remorseful.
But without guilt.

LOL
(sorry)


HuckFinn Offline
#68 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Posted links? Hmmm. Did CBid remove them?

I honestly think you're just too f*cking stupid to see how stupid you really are.




You're upset.
Who Cares.
tailgater Offline
#69 Posted:
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edit.
I googled black anger like HuckFinn asked.

All it showed was a picture of his momma.

Which explains everything.


frankj1 Offline
#70 Posted:
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now now, girls, you're both beautiful.
HuckFinn Offline
#71 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Frank, I think it's now time for you to apologize to HuckFinn.

You know.
Because I made him cry.
So you have to be remorseful.
But without guilt.

LOL
(sorry)



You seem to like tedium.
You're pretty transparent, think you know that.
And now you're wasting my time.
B'bye.
tailgater Offline
#72 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
You seem to like tedium.
You're pretty transparent, think you know that.
And now you're wasting my time.
B'bye.


Let's try again tomorrow, assuming you get your inadequacies in order.

It's more fun if you type what you mean, or add some humor.
You've backed away from everything and weren't even one lick of funny.

But never fear.
You are forgiven.

tweoijfoi Offline
#73 Posted:
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#racism ... thread
cacman Offline
#74 Posted:
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I'll admit to reading the entire thread.
My question is: Is there also a course that also teaches "black racism"?

It would only be fair.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#75 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
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Get in line!


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/01/19/top-democratic-senate-aide-on-anti-semitism-we-dont-care-about-it-n2436485
dstieger Offline
#76 Posted:
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Posts: 10,889
tailgater wrote:


But we can't judge yesterday's actions by the morality of today.



And one more data point....in the long list of why we are unlikely to have a productive conversation with the Hucks and libs and 'progressives' of this country....
frankj1 Offline
#77 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
And one more data point....in the long list of why we are unlikely to have a productive conversation with the Hucks and libs and 'progressives' of this country....

you know I can hear you, right?!!!
dstieger Offline
#78 Posted:
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As my fourth grade teacher, Ms Polacheck used to say; "Hearing is NOT the same as listening"
frankj1 Offline
#79 Posted:
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she'd be right about that
DrafterX Offline
#80 Posted:
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What.. Mellow
Speyside Offline
#81 Posted:
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Not a clue Drafter, just a lot of b**** slapping going on. Though it is a humorous read.
tailgater Offline
#82 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
you know I can hear you, right?!!!


On an internet forum?
frankj1 Offline
#83 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
On an internet forum?

scary, right?
Speyside Offline
#84 Posted:
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I heard you could see him too. Cuz you're like a genius.
frankj1 Offline
#85 Posted:
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far be it for me to brag


-Frankie Tripod
HuckFinn Offline
#86 Posted:
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There is unprecedented growth in the number of and membership in white supremacist groups internationally. What's going on..

100s of thousands of people subscribe to racist publications, attend marches and rallies, and donate money. There're approximately 100 hatelines in online.

Apparently lots of white people are fed up with race and ethnicity tolerance. They want a return to a white race purity and domination. They hate immigrants, blacks, hispanics and for added good measure, they're Holocaust deniers. Is this acceptable? Is it nuts? No big deal?
You tell me.
Does anyone think race relations are any good now? I don't. I've never seen them so bad.
So ok, what do I suggest? How about talking directly with black people? Ask black people you can have a conversation like this with if they're happy with the way things are. As them if they begrudge whites, have that at-first awkward conversation. I have, yeah.
We all know what complacent cigar smoking white guys think, what do they think?

There's this movement sweeping not just the US but the whole world called
white nationalism and it's slowly making its way in to the mainstream. David Duke publically applauded Putin for making possible "white survival". In Poland tens of thousands of white supremacists were out there marching in November . It's a global phenomenon.
(*Noteworthy, all things Nazi are illegal in Germany. The German chancellor actually lectured Donald on how to contain Neo-Nazis...and he probably argued in their defence.)

So, here's a guy who is the proud father of the movement known as the alt-right:
young man named Richard Spenser. I think his message resonates for real and apparent reasons: many, especially younger white people feel threatened by neo-liberal globalization.
It's eye-opening imo.
Tail-gaber (*one speaks out of his azz) deep breaths, sir. Your politics only vaguely resemble theirs.
So here's a link to Spencer's crazy pov.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/his-kampf/524505/
frankj1 Offline
#87 Posted:
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Posts: 44,211
Huck-

I introduced myself to you early on, we have a bond, and I'd like to see the real you settle in here and add to the talent pool.

You're new and may not know that I have campaigned here for years pushing the agenda for neo-nazis to have their own cable network. Yup, me! The man my dear friend jespear calls Jewboy...with love in his heart. I want PRIME TIME TV for Nazis and other scum.

It's just so much better than having them operate underground, and it neuters the deniers.

So now we can see the new life and activities they plan, and I am delighted...not that they still exist, but that we have proof they were never really extinguished, and Jews and Blacks and other whining inconveniences victimized while a world did not believe it could be happening learns that we need to heed the axiom upon which Israel exists..."Never Again".

Expanding the concept of publicizing the existence of hatred groups, whether antisemitic, white supremacists, any haters at all, Never Again will we allow hatred to grow beyond the lunatic fringe. But we must be ever vigilant to accomplish this goal.

And I believe we have made great progress. That it still exists is expected, always, by people like me. So we remain ever vigilant. We can never let the discussion die.

The problem you are running into is you are all over the place, as though you are tackling all of hatred that has ever existed at once. This is scattershot accusatory and very unfocused...it's coming across as emotion trumping (see what I did there?) structured thought.

Make no mistake, I am one of the more likely people here to agree with many of your beliefs...if we were to meet and discuss in a controlled environment (just a little alcohol). But I'm just trying to point out you are assuming a lot of evil on the parts of people you have just met. Not everyone who questions the liberal agenda is against the desired results...perhaps just against the means used to achieve the same end?

Separate your issues and your ideas will be easier to appreciate.

I know this is not easy right now. Relax, go to threads that are more playful? Then revisit.

Frank



victor809 Offline
#88 Posted:
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Yeah Yuck. Stick around get to know exactly why you should dislike the people you dislike first...
Speyside Offline
#89 Posted:
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Huck, unfortunately part of humanity will always hate. Frank speaks more eloquently than I do. I share his opinion. BTW lots of good folks here, even if their opinion is the polar opposite of mine.
Abrignac Offline
#90 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
It would be very short....




Horseshit
Abrignac Offline
#91 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Yeah... everything was weighed along racial lines.... everything.

I think it says more that the instant we have a black president you think EVERYTHING he did was somehow racial....


Half black isn't he??
Abrignac Offline
#92 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Quick search'll tell ya we did kill millions of slaves. Over a million committed suicide coming over on ships.

My point is our nation conscience lacks real remorse.


Find a word to replace we. Neither I, nor you had absolutely anything to do with slavery in the the United States.


BTW, you are a special kind of stupid if you think there has been no national remorse shown for slavery.
Abrignac Offline
#93 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
If your grandfather, father or your son committed a really horrific violent crime, you wouldn't feel even a drop of responsibility?


Absofuckinglutlynot!!! That's akin to me feeling responsible because your took a goat behind the barn for a quick phuq. Why should anyone but you be responsible?

I stand corrected. You're not a special kind of stupid. That would be an insult to those folks. Words can't define your demented logic.
Abrignac Offline
#94 Posted:
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Huck why did you choose Huck Finn as a moniker? You do realize that Mark Twain did always precede Jim with a adjective when Huck spoke of him?

If you truly cared about race relations why would you name yourself after a clearly racist character? Please don't say it is to highlight your point. Calling a person by such a derogatory term has no place in social discourse among SJW's whose calling is to right the wrongs perpetrated by society upon others.

tosses the bullshit flag
HuckFinn Offline
#95 Posted:
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Frank, the white supremacist/alt-right movement is growing faster than you think. Never Again? Wanna bet? I'd tell you to Google it but...

I understand you guys know each other well, but you don't know me Frank.
I have no emotional stake in what I'm posting. At least none that I'm aware of. But I'll think about that. And how I come across. I guess. Ultimately, I fear sanity but especially civility are dying out by where i see things headed. But I'm old and ready to shrug it off. Just getting in my last licks I guess.
I've watched you, Frank, in many threads and been surprised even disappointed at how
non-committal you are. You appear to like your approval rating in here so much that you let slide things i intuit you don't want to. I never chose to address it in an open forum.
So yeah, maybe I'm not a good fit here.
Vic thinking Yuck is a clever name for me? Lol.
Tail upset all the time because he's devoid of empathy and hates people that care about others as it disturbs his status quo; mediocrity.
And random azzholes like Abrignac who have no percievable depth; guys who think in one-liners or believe c/p ad nauseum is thought.
I can see there are mostly good people here. I'm just lousy at small talk. You're probably right.

You said "Separate your issues and your ideas will be easier to appreciate"
Huh?


tailgater Offline
#96 Posted:
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I am white and I am superior to HuckFinn.

Does that make me a white supremacist?





Huck and I have differing opinions.
He wants to force his opinions onto me. I choose to let him suffer in his own filth.

I'm good like that.







Ewok126 Offline
#97 Posted:
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Florda Gulf Coast University offers course on "white racism"

Here is what I would like to know.....

I was born in the south. If I take the course will they teach me how to be a proper white racist? I just feel I am lacking in that area.... Confused
tailgater Offline
#98 Posted:
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Not according to the Huckster.

Ewok126 Offline
#99 Posted:
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Well Chit, The story of my life. I figure I will just be an improper White Racist I reckon. Then again being an improper white racist makes me the perfect white racist in some aspects right?
HuckFinn Offline
#100 Posted:
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Tail-gaber, It's clear that you're racist. What probably isn't (to you anyway) is that you suffer from something called the Dunning- Kruger effect: a cognitive bias wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority.

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