HuckFinn wrote:Frank, the white supremacist/alt-right movement is growing faster than you think. Never Again? Wanna bet? I'd tell you to Google it but...
I understand you guys know each other well, but you don't know me Frank.
I have no emotional stake in what I'm posting. At least none that I'm aware of. But I'll think about that. And how I come across. I guess. Ultimately, I fear sanity but especially civility are dying out by where i see things headed. But I'm old and ready to shrug it off. Just getting in my last licks I guess.
I've watched you, Frank, in many threads and been surprised even disappointed at how
non-committal you are. You appear to like your approval rating in here so much that you let slide things i intuit you don't want to. I never chose to address it in an open forum.
So yeah, maybe I'm not a good fit here.
Vic thinking Yuck is a clever name for me? Lol.
Tail upset all the time because he's devoid of empathy and hates people that care about others as it disturbs his status quo; mediocrity.
And random azzholes like Abrignac who have no percievable depth; guys who think in one-liners or believe c/p ad nauseum is thought.
I can see there are mostly good people here. I'm just lousy at small talk. You're probably right.
You said "Separate your issues and your ideas will be easier to appreciate"
Huh?
not sure how you took the way I used Never Again to mean anything other than a stern warning to never believe the Nazis et al ever went away. Even in Israel it does not mean it's over...it certainly does not imply comfort with the situation, you inferred it incorrectly.
I wrote:
You're new and may not know that I have campaigned here for years pushing the agenda for neo-nazis to have their own cable network. Yup, me! I want PRIME TIME TV for Nazis and other scum. It's just so much better than having them operate underground, and it neuters the deniers.
Doesn't sound like I've ever been OK with itSo now we can see the new life and activities they plan, and I am delighted...
not that they still exist, but that we have proof they were never really extinguished, and Jews and Blacks and other whining inconveniences victimized while a world did not believe it could be happening learns that we need to heed the axiom upon which Israel exists..."Never Again".
still can't tell that I am not complacent?Expanding the concept of publicizing the existence of hatred groups, whether antisemitic, white supremacists, any haters at all, Never Again will we allow hatred to grow beyond the lunatic fringe. But we must be ever vigilant to accomplish this goal.
should be clear that I am urging vigilanceAnd I believe we have made great progress. That it still exists is expected, always, by people like me. So we remain ever vigilant. We can never let the discussion die.
we have made progress, they do not currently control an entire government, even Germany prosecutes any living citizen who played any role at all. Nowhere have I hinted that it is over...you have summed up my positions reading the cliff notes, focusing on my natural caring for all humanity, not just those in my political camp. Most of my assessment of others has little to do with their politics. I will not apologize for being a jovial sort of guy, even sometimes when things could not be worse in my private life.
No, I do not know you, never said I did. I said we had a bond, and you certainly know what I meant. I reached out to you because I am the person I just described above. I only offered to be willing for you to get to know me, and you do not have to do that...but being disappointed in my choice of how to participate on a discount cigar forum?
I'll pass on your ruling, Your Honor.
Separating issues would help make what you state clearer. In one long breath you spoke on everything from antisemitism to race relations, even drifted into having conversations with individual Black citizens in hopes of easing their assumed discomfort! You tossed in concepts you have of collective guilt and how it should be a motivator for historical wrongs...
Wow, that's a lot to decipher at once. To me, a sympathetic liberal, it read as though your emotions were ruling the keyboard more than your simple opinions.
I wouldn't judge people based on 20 short posts, but I am like A idiot. Such an idiot that my off line offer is still open.
Frank
