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Extreme Poverty in the U.S.
Phil222 Offline
#1 Posted:
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"A United Nations official investigating poverty in the United States was shocked at the level of environmental degradation in some areas of rural Alabama, saying he had never seen anything like it in the developed world."

http://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601
banderl Offline
#2 Posted:
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Phil222 wrote:
"A United Nations official investigating poverty in the United States was shocked at the level of environmental degradation in some areas of rural Alabama, saying he had never seen anything like it in the developed world."

http://www.newsweek.com/alabama-un-poverty-environmental-racism-743601



That's not really the developed world, is it?
Phil222 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Ha! Depends on who you're talking to. I guess...Roll Tide??
banderl Offline
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We have a couple of good guys here from that part of the world.
Also have some deplorables from down there.
victor809 Offline
#5 Posted:
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If almost 50% of the voting population is pro pedo... it's not a 1st world country. More in common with tribal controlled areas of Afghanistan than with a 1st world country.
Phil222 Offline
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Bama is not alone...many states face similar circumstances. It's hard to stomach in the greatest nation the world has ever seen...
victor809 Offline
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Alabama has a 15% illiteracy rate. 15% of the population is functionally illiterate.... not just has poor grammar or vocabulary.

consider that for a moment.

Think of the most inbred, backwards minded, trump supporting cbid poster you can.... (I know you have a few in mind)... 15% of Alabamans cannot even construct the written arguments that person can. That blows my mind.
victor809 Offline
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Infant mortality in 1st world countries seems to range from 2.1 (Japan/finland) in successful countries... to 6.1 in the US (ranked 26th).... per 1000 births

The infant mortality for Alabama is 9.1.... ranking worse than Botswana, Bulgaria, essentially equal to Thailand....
banderl Offline
#9 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Alabama has a 15% illiteracy rate. 15% of the population is functionally illiterate.... not just has poor grammar or vocabulary.

consider that for a moment.

Think of the most inbred, backwards minded, trump supporting cbid poster you can.... (I know you have a few in mind)... 15% of Alabamans cannot even construct the written arguments that person can. That blows my mind.



This could be "The Post of the Year".
opelmanta1900 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Alabama has a 15% illiteracy rate. 15% of the population is functionally illiterate.... not just has poor grammar or vocabulary.

consider that for a moment.

Think of the most inbred, backwards minded, trump supporting cbid poster you can.... (I know you have a few in mind)... 15% of Alabamans cannot even construct the written arguments that person can. That blows my mind.


I think literacy is great... that being said, I've known some great men and women who could not read or write... I don't think literacy - or even intelligence - is the greatest measure of a persons value...
DrafterX Offline
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I wonder what California's is... Think
Kawak Offline
#12 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Alabama has a 15% illiteracy rate. 15% of the population is functionally illiterate.... not just has poor grammar or vocabulary.

consider that for a moment.

Think of the most inbred, backwards minded, trump supporting cbid poster you can.... (I know you have a few in mind)... 15% of Alabamans cannot even construct the written arguments that person can. That blows my mind.


Don't worry, this happened under Obama. Trump will have this fixed in a year! Big League!
victor809 Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I think literacy is great... that being said, I've known some great men and women who could not read or write... I don't think literacy - or even intelligence - is the greatest measure of a persons value...


I didn't say value.
I said were unable to even construct the written arguments equivalent to the least intelligent forum poster.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#14 Posted:
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leave busa alone...
Phil222 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I said were unable to even construct the written arguments equivalent to the least intelligent forum poster.


Kawak?
Kawak Offline
#16 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I wonder what California's is... Think


Well, if you base it off one Trump hating poster here.....it no so good. Is that correct?

I feel sorry for the .1 in the 9.1 infant mortality. Must have been due to the baby parts abortion factory libs love so much.
victor809 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I wonder what California's is... Think


Worse than Alabama's actually.
23%...

But to be fair they probably can read/write in Spanish or Chinese.... the numbers include people who could not be tested due to language barriers (per the note). Alabama isn't exactly a state people immigrate to
victor809 Offline
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Phil222 wrote:
Kawak?


Well... if it quacks like a duck.
victor809 Offline
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Kawak wrote:
Well, if you base it off one Trump hating poster here.....it no so good. Is that correct?

I feel sorry for the .1 in the 9.1 infant mortality. Must have been due to the baby parts abortion factory libs love so much.



You do know what infant mortality statistics measure.... right? Or was that just too long to read?
Phil222 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Well... if it kawaks like a duck.


Beer
Kawak Offline
#21 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
You do know what infant mortality statistics measure.... right? Or was that just too long to read?


Well, you're the super intelligent one here. Why don't you spend some time and splain to me...I have to go eat dinner but I expect a full report by morning.
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Kawak wrote:
Don't worry, this happened under Obama. Trump will have this fixed in a year! Big League!

you're out of lockstep when you support Federal control of public schools
Speyside Offline
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Even though quacker is as irritating to me as I am to him let's be fair. He isn't in that illiterate conversation. Charlie Barr comes to mind.
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The fact that the US ranks so high in illiteracy, infant mortality and poverty shows that we are a more selfish and less compassionate country than most wealthy nations. The vast majority of this country's wealth is in the hands of a relatively few (one percenters?) and they are determined to keep it that way by electing their chosen ones to do their bidding...


their propaganda machine that convinces a lot of non one percenters that the poor people of this country are the source of all their problems is unbelievably effective...as proven by the fact that a whole lot of cons (poor, MC, and wealthy) believe that the Great Recession was caused by poor people lying to get home loans...
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Speyside wrote:
Even though quacker is as irritating to me as I am to him let's be fair. He isn't in that illiterate conversation. Charlie Barr comes to mind.

actually very clever, used to be even funnier and more selective. but something irritated him recently and he's certainly allowed to come here and act on it...this is why we all show up.
Kawak Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
actually very clever, used to be even funnier and more selective. but something irritated him recently and he's certainly allowed to come here and act on it...this is why we all show up.



LOL, this is what I love about this forum. Like how Frankj1 appoints himself the arbiter of what's allowed and when someone can engage with others! Wink

I actually only came back after two years away to order some sticks and while I was at it rattle a few cages. I haven't been smoking a fraction of what I used to over the past few years but the new son in laws do and so ran low and needed a restock.

Anyone that knows me and my time here knows I don't let anything on these forums get to me. For me it's all Sh1ts and giggles. While i'll never know 99% of the folks here I've had the good fortune to actually meet and herf with a few fellas I've met on this and other cigar forums and all have been great times. So no Speyside,, you don't irritate me! Something tells me we may have met before?

Got enough restock orders in now to last a while so ya'll have a good one as I'm out again for a while.

But...remember to:

Love your families everyday
Appreciate your good friends
and
Wish the best for our country regardless of your position.

See ya!

PS, I might check in on the pics post now and then for the I Candi... Good night I forgot how much I missed those!
frankj1 Offline
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Kawak wrote:
LOL, this is what I love about this forum. Like how Frankj1 appoints himself the arbiter of what's allowed and when someone can engage with others! Wink

I actually only came back after two years away to order some sticks and while I was at it rattle a few cages. I haven't been smoking a fraction of what I used to over the past few years but the new son in laws do and so ran low and needed a restock.

Anyone that knows me and my time here knows I don't let anything on these forums get to me. For me it's all Sh1ts and giggles. While i'll never know 99% of the folks here I've had the good fortune to actually meet and herf with a few fellas I've met on this and other cigar forums and all have been great times. So no Speyside,, you don't irritate me! Something tells me we may have met before?

Got enough restock orders in now to last a while so ya'll have a good one as I'm out again for a while.

But...remember to:

Love your families everyday
Appreciate your good friends
and
Wish the best for our country regardless of your position.

See ya!

PS, I might check in on the pics post now and then for the I Candi... Good night I forgot how much I missed those!

feel free to call me Tripod...

enjoy.
Phil222 Offline
#28 Posted:
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Kawak wrote:
so ya'll have a good one as I'm out again for a while.


Maybe drop by every once in a while and call someone a libtard. Need more around here that aren't afraid to mix it up and have a few laughs...
delta1 Offline
#29 Posted:
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Kawak wrote:
LOL, this is what I love about this forum. Like how Frankj1 appoints himself the arbiter of what's allowed and when someone can engage with others! Wink

I actually only came back after two years away to order some sticks and while I was at it rattle a few cages. I haven't been smoking a fraction of what I used to over the past few years but the new son in laws do and so ran low and needed a restock.

Anyone that knows me and my time here knows I don't let anything on these forums get to me. For me it's all Sh1ts and giggles. While i'll never know 99% of the folks here I've had the good fortune to actually meet and herf with a few fellas I've met on this and other cigar forums and all have been great times. So no Speyside,, you don't irritate me! Something tells me we may have met before?

Got enough restock orders in now to last a while so ya'll have a good one as I'm out again for a while.

But...remember to:

Love your families everyday
Appreciate your good friends
and
Wish the best for our country regardless of your position.

See ya!

PS, I might check in on the pics post now and then for the I Candi... Good night I forgot how much I missed those!


+ 1
...I've actually met a few guys here who don't share my political leanings, but whom I consider great guys and friends. See you around...
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted:
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Me too.
Well, except for the flaming liberals.


frankj1 Offline
#31 Posted:
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say WHAT???
tailgater Offline
#32 Posted:
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I said flaming.

Calm down Nancy.


frankj1 Offline
#33 Posted:
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oh.
never mind
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted:
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I guess there's still hope for tail and me ...yeah, I'm a lib...but no one has ever accused me of being on fire...
ZRX1200 Offline
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^ Delta and I will always be friends, and seldom agree.

Peace out kawak, see ya later.

FYI Delta, we are much better AT REPORTING.
ZRX1200 Offline
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And frank is like a stable genius n stuff.
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted:
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got you fooled too, eh?
Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Alabama has a 15% illiteracy rate. 15% of the population is functionally illiterate.... not just has poor grammar or vocabulary.

consider that for a moment.

Think of the most inbred, backwards minded, trump supporting cbid poster you can.... (I know you have a few in mind)... 15% of Alabamans cannot even construct the written arguments that person can. That blows my mind.


So you’ve spent some meaningful time in Alabama or it are you regurgitating some study done by people who more likely than not have never set foot in Alabama?
Abrignac Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Worse than Alabama's actually.
23%...

But to be fair they probably can read/write in Spanish or Chinese.... the numbers include people who could not be tested due to language barriers (per the note). Alabama isn't exactly a state people immigrate to


Since they were not tested it’s possible that 23% of them are illiterate isn’t it.
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I think literacy is great... that being said, I've known some great men and women who could not read or write... I don't think literacy - or even intelligence - is the greatest measure of a persons value...


"It's what the market will bear. Now there's people - and I know 'em - who'll pay a lot more than $25,000 for a healthy baby. Why, I myself fetched $30,000 on the black market. And that was in 1954 dollars." Beer
tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I guess there's still hope for tail and me ...yeah, I'm a lib...but no one has ever accused me of being on fire...


You and the tripod don't have to fight over me.
But you don't have to NOT fight over me, either.




bgz Offline
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banderl wrote:
This could be "The Post of the Year".


Meh, you don't get out of the politics section very much.
victor809 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
So you’ve spent some meaningful time in Alabama or it are you regurgitating some study done by people who more likely than not have never set foot in Alabama?


Huh?
Literacy rates are tested in the state... they kind of have to have set foot in alabama to be able to report that 15% of alabamans can't read. I'm not sure what problem you are having with this statement.
victor809 Offline
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Abrignac wrote:
Since they were not tested it’s possible that 23% of them are illiterate isn’t it.


Possible. The test was conducted in english. An inability to perform the test would be due to not being able to read the english language. The test did not test other languages. We already know that California has a significantly higher population of immigrants from Central and south america and Asia than most other states.... so having a percentage that don't read english (but can read in their native language) is not unlikely.

Of course, I could look up other studies to find the estimated % literacy of non-english speaking immigrants to find an appropriate estimate to modify the %... but unless something is at stake I'm not too thrilled to go digging through research studies.
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tailgater wrote:
You and the tripod don't have to fight over me.
But you don't have to NOT fight over me, either.





sounds like a TW fence post post
frankj1 Offline
#47 Posted:
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double post outrage?
victor809 Offline
#48 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
double penetration outrage?



FIFY
frankj1 Offline
#49 Posted:
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obrigado
victor809 Offline
#50 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
Avogadro


..... hmmm... that's a lot more than two. Not sure even TW could handle an Avogadro's penetration.
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