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KFC's contaminating my Humidor?
Fr. Bob Offline
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Gentlepersons,

a friend, and then subsequently when I researched, a you-tube commentator opined that one should not put a quantity of MUWAT Kent. Fire Cured cigars in a mixed humidor due to their overpowering essence....
I'm inclined to think "frog feathers".... But thought I'd ask if anybody has any personal knowledge of the matter.
I'm expecting a box early next week and need to know if I should dust off the smaller "spare" humi.
My main humidor is quite large, 1,500 stick (ish) capacity, with electric auto humidifier ---bout 1/2 full if it matters.
Thanks,
Fr. Bob
deadeyedick Offline
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Farmer, iffn' you like your cigars to smell like a campfire that has been put out using the "available hose" method then go ahead and mix these with your decent cigars.
danmdevries Offline
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Get a Boveda pack at your preferred humidity level, and place that, and the box of MUWAT KFC in a large airtight container. Gladware or similar is great for this. I keep em in an ammo box with a few slabs of Spanish cedar when I have them around.

They stink.
KingoftheCove Offline
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What they said^^
Applies to most any infused cigar,,,,,,like a DE Acid and such.
Ewok126 Offline
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The KFC is the only flavored cigar I do buy on a regular basis. The essence is so strong the smell even sticks to the cedar inside the humidor. Yes it will marry with the other smokes in the same box. I have a seperate desktop humi that I keep all my KFC's in.
jjanecka Offline
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No doubt you'll ruin good smokes padre
ZRX1200 Offline
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KFC isn't "flavored" it contains fire cured tobacco
frankj1 Offline
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thick mil freezer bag with double zip lock.
toss the box in, toss in a boveda 65 or a container of heartfelt or whatever you belive in, you can even toss the boveda in the box.
toss the whole thing into a drawer.
good for a looooooong time, minimum maintenance.

rfenster told me this years ago. haven't used a humidor, other than to occasionally dry box, in ages.
bgz Offline
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As a rule of thumb, I don't put chicken in my humidor.
frankj1 Offline
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bgz wrote:
As a rule of thumb, I don't put chicken in my humidor.

worse news, KFC ain't real chikens
Ewok126 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
KFC isn't "flavored" it contains fire cured tobacco



and what does fire curing add to the tobacco?
RMAN4443 Offline
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bgz wrote:
As a rule of thumb, I don't put chicken in my humidor.

I do, liverwurst is good tooAnxious
shaun341 Offline
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I can't help but think, why the John Deere avatar? Feels like kissing your sister when I opened this thread.
Ewok126 Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
I can't help but think, why the John Deere avatar? Feels like kissing your sister when I opened this thread.


LOL
+1
jjanecka Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
I can't help but think, why the John Deere avatar? Feels like kissing your sister when I opened this thread.


There is such a thing as being a sophisticated countryman...
Phil222 Offline
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Is that when you take your sister out to dinner first? Sorry, couldn't help myself...
nitro6526 Offline
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The tobacco is fire cured, then put under pressure. They rotate it, then pressure it again. So forth until the tobacco is "broken down". The fire curing method goes back to the old way that was done by native Americans in Louisiana where it is grown and produced. Just gives it a different flavor.
Fr. Bob Offline
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Alas, I was the only one in Seminary with a '41 John Deere B in my garage.
Two cylinder tractors are a thing of beauty; God certainly gets it.

Fr. Bob

cacman Offline
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Fr. Bob wrote:
KFC's contaminating my Humidor?

YES they are!. Would not keep a KFC or any other DE/Swisher infused cigars or pipe tobacco in my domestic or CC cigar humi.

KFC includes a scraps of a Kentucky Fire-Cured pipe tobacco (technically not infused). As a comparison, when I first started transitioning from cigarettes to cigars, I used to roll my own cigs with perique tobacco and store it in my humi with my cigars. The flavor will definitely blend with everything in the humi, especially if aged/stored for a long period.

Keep that DE/Swisher pipe tobacco and infused stuff in a separate recyclable plastic container or ziplock bag.
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Fr. Bob wrote:
Alas, I was the only one in Seminary with a '41 John Deere B in my garage.
Two cylinder tractors are a thing of beauty; God certainly gets it.

Fr. Bob




I myself have a 48 Three Wheel and a 56 International. We've got a husk from a 46 but still haven't had time to unfreeze the engine. Work like that is a real bitch. We tried to get it going about 10 years ago but I can't remember what was even wrong with it in the first place.
Whistlebritches Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
KFC isn't "flavored" it contains fire cured tobacco


^^^Just another kind of baccy.Do your Maduro wrapped sticks taint your Habano wrapped,your Corojo your Ecuadorian Connecticut?I think not.I have a couple bundles in my humi now and smoke one occasionally.The cigars in close proximity have never taken on any of the fire cured qualities.......which in some cases would be a nice addition.

That being said I would not mix infused sticks with regular sticks but as Jamie mentioned above...........these are not infused,just fire cured.

So to all above who claim otherwise.........My BULLPUCKEY Flag is at full staff.
KingoftheCove Offline
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You are wrong Whistle.............them things STINK!
No way they would go in any humi with traditional cigars at my house...........but then.........your taste buds are fried from too many ligero laced LFDs.....so there's that.
Ewok126 Offline
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They fire cure the baccy that way for two reasons

one to cure the baccy
two to give it that distinct FLAVOR. This one being their niche. If it did not add that flavor it would be no different than any other natural baccy.

Take a burnt chunk of wood out of your fireplace or buck stove. Stick it in say your closet and guess what your clothes will smell like over time. The reason is because it marries with the cloths. It all works on the same principle of cold smoking which I do all the time. It does not take heat for the smoke to marry with whatever it takes humidity and guess what is in that humidor besides cigars "Humidity" Just like with any other thing the wood or the whole humidor for that matter is "Breathing" It expands and contracts this is why people even with wineadors or jars add the cedar lining or shelfs. The wood acts as a buffer drawing in the humidity and letting it out. It also adds that cedar "SMELL and TASTE" to the cigars. If I am full o chit, take a sponge and put some fox piss on it let it dry completely and then stick it in your humi with your cigars come back in a month and stick a cigar from that humidor to your nose and take a big sniff then smoke it and tell me what it smells and taste like. That KFC and all the other cigars is acting just like that sponge.

Now here is the real info BOB, We here on the forums will argue if this is the case or not till hell freezes over because we all have a different opinion which is what I love the most about all these boys. They have changed my mind on many of my headstrong opinions because at the time I was the one full o chit and "thought" I was in the know.

Here would be my suggestion just to CYA. Take a ziplock bag that you know has no holes or leaks, Throw in one natural cured cigar and a KFC with a humi pillow. Let it set for a month somewhere. Come back to it and pull out the regular cigar and take a big sniff, fire it up and see if YOU taste any of the KFC in it. That way you will know which one of us all is full o chit and talking out our arse giving false information and yes this includes the info from myself. I know this does not help you in your question giving an immediate answer to it but it will save you the trouble of taking the wrong advice and messing up your humidor and all your other natural cigars. Good luck sir.
Buckwheat Offline
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I have to agree that Kentucky Fried Chicken should never be put in with cigars. Sarcasm
Fr. Bob Offline
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Thank You Ewok, for the short term, I will segregate my KFC's. Easy enough done.
But for Science ( ! ) I will experiment with sequestering one KFC and one other cigar I know well ( so I will KNOW the result ) and leave 'm be for a month.
Interesting conversation, guys and gals.
Thanks.

Pax,
Fr. Bob
Ewok126 Offline
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My pleasure Pax, Let us know your results if you would. I would greatly appreciate the knowledge you acquire from the experiment as it will either help more solidify my opinion or let me know that my opinion on this matter is not always factual.

Best of luck!
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KingoftheCove wrote:
You are wrong Whistle.............them things STINK!
No way they would go in any humi with traditional cigars at my house...........but then.........your taste buds are fried from too many ligero laced LFDs.....so there's that.

In Rons defense, I think the fire cure stuff is kind of like rosemary... if you like it, you barely notice when it's used... if you hate it, even a sprig can ruin a whole dish...

When I used to get them in samplers, they were always packaged between the muwat and the nica puro and those 2 would soak up Just enough of the flavor to bother me when I smoked them...
Whistlebritches Offline
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KingoftheCove wrote:
You are wrong Whistle.............them things STINK!
No way they would go in any humi with traditional cigars at my house...........but then.........your taste buds are fried from too many ligero laced LFDs.....so there's that.


Well mine have been stored together probably 3 plus years with zero negative results to any other sticks.Still much ado about nothing in my opinion.

But since some of you still have concerns here is what I'd do.Put the KFC's in a Tupperware bowl and store in your commode tank.Now everyone is happy.......you're welcome.
KingoftheCove Offline
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Whistlebritches wrote:
Well mine have been stored together probably 3 plus years with zero negative results to any other sticks.Still much ado about nothing in my opinion.

But since some of you still have concerns here is what I'd do.Put the KFC's in a Tupperware bowl and store in your commode tank.Now everyone is happy.......you're welcome.

Ha! You're prolly right.
I low bid and won a fiver of Kyotos Nov, 2016. Waited several months, smoked one, pitched after less than an inch.
Thought I'd given the rest to the BIL mooch.....but didn't....forgot I put them in an empty Jericho Four sampler box, with a small Boveda. (I didn't even bother entering them into my computer list.) Was moving some stuff around yesterday, saw the Jericho box.....what's this??
Ha! So I opened the box, and, to be honest, the smell wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. So apparently it dissipates over time. However, when I pulled one out of the cello.....well....that smokey odor came back pretty good.

Smoked one on da porch late last night. Interesting.....not anything I would buy, but MUCH better than the first one I tried to smoke. Maybe larger ring gauge, with a long nap, might be even better? I'm thinking that 34RG on the Kyoto might not be ideal for this cigar.
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Fr. Bob wrote:

Two cylinder tractors are a thing of beauty



Rumely Oil Pull here
euodias Offline
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Smell is an important part of your ability to taste. Ever notice how you can't hardly taste anything when your sinuses are really congested?

If your cigars start to smell like KFCs, then they will begin to taste like KFCs. If you don't notice the smell on your other cigars, then don't worry about it.
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Ha! You're prolly right.
I low bid and won a fiver of Kyotos Nov, 2016. Waited several months, smoked one, pitched after less than an inch.
Thought I'd given the rest to the BIL mooch.....but didn't....forgot I put them in an empty Jericho Four sampler box, with a small Boveda. (I didn't even bother entering them into my computer list.) Was moving some stuff around yesterday, saw the Jericho box.....what's this??
Ha! So I opened the box, and, to be honest, the smell wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. So apparently it dissipates over time. However, when I pulled one out of the cello.....well....that smokey odor came back pretty good.

Smoked one on da porch late last night. Interesting.....not anything I would buy, but MUCH better than the first one I tried to smoke. Maybe larger ring gauge, with a long nap, might be even better? I'm thinking that 34RG on the Kyoto might not be ideal for this cigar.


RG definitely impacts the flavor.

I like the Kyoto/corona size. Definitely taste the fire cured leaf.

The larger rg it's much more subtle. There's not enough in the rest of the cigar to carry it IMO, so I much prefer for the fire cured to be a dominant flavor.

Had a nub sized one sit for over a year. It wasn't bad, but wasn't good either. The smokey pipe baccy flavor was more muted, and the rest was just plain mid level tobacco flavors all muddled together.



opelmanta1900 wrote:
In Rons defense, I think the fire cure stuff is kind of like rosemary... if you like it, you barely notice when it's used... if you hate it, even a sprig can ruin a whole dish...

When I used to get them in samplers, they were always packaged between the muwat and the nica puro and those 2 would soak up Just enough of the flavor to bother me when I smoked them...



That's a really good analogy.

I like rosemary. Wife hates it. I made a cabbage last week, put about a tsp of dry rosemary and a tsp of fennel seeds in there along with salt n pepper. She complained the whole house smelled like rosemary. I barely noticed it.
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danmdevries wrote:


I like rosemary. Wife hates it.
She complained the whole house smelled like rosemary. I barely noticed it.


no, she said she hates Rosemary
corey sellers Offline
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Dan leave Rosemary alone did you see her boobs
Fr. Bob Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
Rumely Oil Pull here


I bow in your general direction. Faskinatin' ol machines, no?
Have seen many static, but have never been in vacinity of one running or driving.
All my 2 cylinders are 1941's. Just picked a year, but am partial to '41's. My first, the B was purchased from original owner in late 80's, makes me 2nd owner, seller was a Soldier in WWII, an Honest to God Ranger, did the cliff climb on Normandy and everything! Besides the tractor I got the original manuals and bill of sale. He bought it in Jun of 41 after having been denied enlistment... figgered he'd stay farming in Ohio. Two weeks later he was re-evaluated and drafted. His dad used the little B throughout the war and it was used till mid 70's on the farm.
Anyhoo, I was still in when I bought it, at Ft. Knox ( 33 years total ) and he was a sweet old man that practically begged me to buy it so it would stay "in the Army" he said. Made me a screamin' deal and his bride made me a fabulous fried chikin dinner. What should have been a 3 hour trip turned into a 12 hour trip after drinking sweet tea and looking at photographes all day. Fond memory.
Currently looking for a '41H because my bride want's one of her own. :)

Fr. Bob
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The ten pk of KFC Fat Molly's arrived today. I can understand the opinion that one will either love 'em or hate 'em.
I s'pect there aint much room for in between....
I think I'm gonna love 'em, at least as a nice change of pace. We shall see in about 2-3 weeks rest.

ps. Corey... Nice shirt, dude

Fr. Bob
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Fr. Bob wrote:
The ten pk of KFC Fat Molly's arrived today. I can understand the opinion that one will either love 'em or hate 'em.
I s'pect there aint much room for in between....
I think I'm gonna love 'em, at least as a nice change of pace. We shall see in about 2-3 weeks rest.

ps. Corey... Nice shirt, dude

Fr. Bob


I like them because I also smoke a pipe and fire cured baccy is a favorite.Hope you enjoy them.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Kyoto is my favorite vitola.
Hank_The_Tank Offline
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If they contaminate then that is what you get for owning craptastic cigars. Those things are nasty. I would prefer Gurkhas. And I think those are horrid.
KingoftheCove Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Kyoto is my favorite vitola.

I got 3 left from that fiver, and they are all yours.....let me know next time you're bringing some air to someone in town.
That cob pipe is now broken in to perfection.....bought another one to start some rotation, although I'm only smoking 2 or 3 bowls a week lately.
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KingoftheCove wrote:
I got 3 left from that fiver, and they are all yours.....let me know next time you're bringing some air to someone in town.
That cob pipe is now broken in to perfection.....bought another one to start some rotation, although I'm only smoking 2 or 3 bowls a week lately.

I tried the cigarillo and it was nasty. I have a flying pig resting. Praying it isn't garbage. Or whatever they call it for the kfc.
Whistlebritches Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Kyoto is my favorite vitola.


Me too.I take these to the duck blind/dove fields.Way easier than trying to keep my pipe lit while burning up a barrel...........and they just scream outdoor smoke.
Palama Offline
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Who else likes fire cured cigars?
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I remember this thread from back when I was just a noob stalker. Got me separating my couple of KFCs from my stash right quick. I thought they were interesting at the time. Mebbe should try one again
corey sellers Offline
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No Thanks
JGKAMIN Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
and what does fire curing add to the tobacco?

Nothing, but it adds to the lure of anything JD and the cool events the DE fanboys can attend. Somebody compared those sticks to a Parodi, which are obviously far less cool.
LeeBot Offline
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I've only had a couple, and they were ok for a nice change of pace. The fire cured part wasn't overwhelming or obnoxious.

As far as storing them with regular cigars, I doubt that a few interspersed with a bunch of regular cigars would significantly effect anything.
ZRX1200 Offline
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They are different, Perodi is all cured tobacco you don’t have to store humidified…and IMO they smoke a bit rougher than a KFC. Both are decent for an quick outdoor change of pace.
deadeyedick Offline
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#2 post still got it right.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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That guy is smaht
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