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The irony.

and hunted vampires ... for sex...in his twilight...

I’ve (only recently) found it interesting learning that Lincoln was not the first gay President. James Buchanan was. Interesting, that America had back to back homosexual presidents. Buchanan’s VP, William R. king, was also his lover. He died of TB six weeks into office and was replaced by John C. Breckinridge, who later became a General with the Confederate States. Now, Breckenridge is one of the people I find more interesting in history. His (pricey) biographies are on my list. I’m really quite interested in him. He had quite a life.

The 69th president should be required to mouthwash hourly.

he wasn't gay. that's nonsense

If anyone was ghey it was Robert E lee

Sherman violated Lee at Appomattox.
And Lee begged for more.

Sherman was a leather daddy.

Well... its the south, so getting some northerner genetic material in there turned the family stick into an actual bush....

ok...to finish the thought...

if Lincoln wasn't gay, then revisionist historians who disapprove of historical events and attempt to smear the historic figure by claiming his motivations were due to his "sexuality" are repulsive and should be reviled, not celebrated or offered as speakers of truth. They should be ignored, and their "work" relegated to the trash heap...and the person exhuming the drivel should be shamed.

to be fair, they didn't have grindr... I'm guessing the guys were stuck with anyone who they could find....

Meh.
Lincoln's sexuality should be irrelevant, just as the sexuality of anyone should be.

I look at people claiming lincoln was gay as falling into two groups... 1 - People saying lincoln was gay as a piece of trivia which others may or may not know... they are hopefully not making a judgement call, and therefore there's nothing really wrong with it... vs 2 - Someone trying to use his sexuality a a smear... that's obviously homophobic, simply because homosexuality isn't an insult, unless you believe there is something inherently wrong with it (ie, are a homophobe)...

Anyone trying to say that one's sexuality would dictate whether one is going to free slaves or not is using piss-poor logic. I'm sure there were plenty of gay southerners who loved the institution of slavery. Probably gave them easy access to some azz that wouldn't rat out their secrets.

c'mon...even then, feigning illness and throwing up was the "get out of horseface" card...

Was Lincoln the Sarah Jessica Parker of the gay civil war era scene?

The room is starting to spin from all the gayness...Cal I love you!

I heard Lee cussed Sherman out: "Damn you and the horse you rode in on!"

More likely Shannon Sharpe

This is my interest . . . the mere fact that it's so unknown. **REGARDLESS** of what I said in the beginning.

I do have my beliefs, but I really don't like the way you "debate". Talking to you victor, would be much more of a pleasant experience if you weren't such an ***hole. I'd love to debate or converse with you on a number of things . . . "What do you think about this?", and "I disagree ... I see it this way. I feel you're wrong, and this is why, Ok I can see how you might view it that way, but I see it like this. That kinda makes sense, but I don't believe so because . . . . . . (etc.)" But no . . . You really come across as a pompous ******. You have zero respect for people you disagree with. And in turn it is reflected upon you, as well. If you weren't such a jerk, then conversation would be much, much more fun. And possibly a *lot* more enlightening as well. Screaming at people is never a way to win friends, influences or arguments.



I've actually got no direct bloodline for anyone that actively served in the Civil War. It's kind of a complicated thing for our family to trace. There are those in our family that served on the "home-guard", probably associated with "Joe Brown's Pets", but I haven't looked too much into their story as of yet.

Jet? If you really dislike vics manner why bait him that way?
You sure you don't actually enjoy mixing it up with him?
You have to know he's gonna try and bite your head off for a comment like that.
Right?

And for the record Victor rarely types in all caps.

Brothers in one instance. The ugly instance (same battle against each other) first cousins.

This place has always been ugly.
Most don't remember, or don't think about it because they weren't the recipients of the ugly.

When I first got here I had to argue with morons that I actually existed, and wasn't a fake name of another poster (adroomi) who I shared some views with. I patiently tried to explain to them that I existed, even provided way more information to prove my existence than I really should have bothered. I was stupidly polite, but didn't know better.

Over the years I ran into a huge number of posters who have been ridiculously reductive in their arguments (don't want laws based on the christian bible? you must be a liberal!) and for years I dealt with them in a respectful manner. I argued with them point for point in a way that attempted to show respect for their stupid positions.

About the time I got into pages long arguments with jpotts, who tried to change the basic transitive property of algebra to support his point (and refused to acknowledge the incorrect math), I stopped giving a f$$k. I'm not going to spend hours trying to share ideas with someone if they are unwilling to accept the basic principles of math as a foundation for a discussion.


Now... if you say something stupid, I'm simply going to state that. I'm not mad. I'm usually just disappointed that people still have the poor logic skills they display today. That and amused at mocking them.... I dunno if the germans have a word for "disappointed and amused at the same time".... probably something like matterfarker....

wait...so you're NOT Adroomi?
Or you are?

whatever happened to your brothers Victor808 and the other one? Do you still hear from them?

Stoopid people suck.

See that?

Common ground!

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