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ypetryna Offline
#101 Posted: Thu, Feb 1 2018, 11:28 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I can remove whoever doesn't want to play anymore... I can't believe it's become such a cluster f'k.. damnit.. Mellow


when did y'all get so sensitive.... just play and either send or collect. not everyone can appreciate an opus or padron anyways so aint no need to get riled up. this is a gamble, not an investment.

and the 4th of july OpFTH will start earlier this year gents. i promise.
DrafterX Offline
#102 Posted: Thu, Feb 1 2018, 11:37 PM EST
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14 squares left... Beer
bgz Offline
#103 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 12:39 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I've met a couple recipients from donations.. they are very knowledgeable as to what they were receiving.. I work with a guy that served and received that knows much more than I do.. I will concede that alot of noobs try their first cigars from our gifts but they aren't the ones opening the boxes and distributing them...
We all love da troops and donate when we can.. if we need to dedicate a few squares to them I'm all for it.. but let's give this a little more time..

Herfing


I didn't know this X, I just pictured a free for all. This eases my mind on the matter.
shaun341 Offline
#104 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 6:51 AM EST
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bgz wrote:
That analogy though... lol

Doesn't make sense :P

Obviously a money pool would be, you put up the required money, you're in!!!

Nobody would gaf what you did with the money if you lost.

Everyone can enjoy money equally!!!

They're not going to spend 5 of the a $20 prize then throw the other $15 in the toilet because it tastes like azz.

I already agreed with you though, you can do what you want with your squares obviously, doesn't mean I can't have an opinion of it :P


Edit:

I do agree with you shaun though that if the troops have squares, the units should still be premiums.



It is the same type of pool but your are taking your own opinion of your cigars as they are worth more to you then the money spent on them. It is 2 $10 so in essence it is $20 a block. My analogy is spot on to what this pool is.

Also, I knew what Drafter stated but feel it shouldn't matter anyway.
bgz Offline
#105 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 8:54 AM EST
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I disagree, I think it does matter.

You're not going to go hand a noobie golfer a new set of high end Titlist player's irons. You would be doing both the noob player and the irons a great disservice.

You're not going to go hand your 8 year old wanting to learn how to play guitar a vintage Les Paul (that would just be plain stupid).

You're not going to give a beginner driver a Hellcat (unless you want to see the beginner wrapped around a telephone pole).

You really shouldn't hand a noob smoker an Opus X or a high end Padron because they'll get sick from the nicotine unless they waste most of it!!!

I could give analogies contrary to yours all day.

I'm going to disagree with you on this till the end of time... it does matter.

And no, they are not just $20 per square, that's the minimum...

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
NoisyTutor Offline
#106 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:45 AM EST
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If it comes down to just a couple of unaccounted for squares i can pick them up.

I'm also up for converting these to $10 squares, in which case it would save everybody some money and make it easier to fill if that seems to be what is holding it from filling up.

I'm good with whatever as long as we can make it happen somehow!

To be honest I could care less about these teams and the squares are the only thing that will keep me engaged in watching the game! lol
delta1 Offline
#107 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 12:49 PM EST
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Only 14 squares left...
RMAN4443 Offline
#108 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 1:42 PM EST
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If there are still squares left by Saturday afternoon I'll take a couple more to help fill it up............but I'm gonna hold off until SaturdayBeer
shaun341 Offline
#109 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 6:18 PM EST
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bgz wrote:
I disagree, I think it does matter.

You're not going to go hand a noobie golfer a new set of high end Titlist player's irons. You would be doing both the noob player and the irons a great disservice.

You're not going to go hand your 8 year old wanting to learn how to play guitar a vintage Les Paul (that would just be plain stupid).

You're not going to give a beginner driver a Hellcat (unless you want to see the beginner wrapped around a telephone pole).

You really shouldn't hand a noob smoker an Opus X or a high end Padron because they'll get sick from the nicotine unless they waste most of it!!!

I could give analogies contrary to yours all day.

I'm going to disagree with you on this till the end of time... it does matter.

And no, they are not just $20 per square, that's the minimum...

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.



Those are all irrelevant for the obvious reason. You do not know the winner and if they are a noob or not. Also, that is not a betting pool where you have no control over who wins. Those arguments are all one on one interactions with controlled situations. This is gambling whether you like it or not and you don't get a say on how the person gets to enjoy their winnings.

Ben, I would not have thought you such the snob that the idea of a cigar considered more then an everyday going to someone you don't know as a problem. As a matter of fact there are plenty of cigars that I probably won't smoke and get if I won a quarter. Maybe I'll just throw them away without lighting them, so maybe I shouldn't be considered for this pool of chance.

You can disagree all you want but you are wrong in your thinking on this one, and come of a little snobbish and unappreciative of what a charity is supposed to be all about.
bgz Offline
#110 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 6:50 PM EST
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shaun341 wrote:
Those are all irrelevant for the obvious reason. You do not know the winner and if they are a noob or not. Also, that is not a betting pool where you have no control over who wins. Those arguments are all one on one interactions with controlled situations. This is gambling whether you like it or not and you don't get a say on how the person gets to enjoy their winnings.


Shaun... I can't argue with you, you're statements are invalid... you keep trying to compare apples to oranges, and when I throw equivalent arguments you claim that they are not.

If you don't have the capacity to understand what I'm saying and the context in which it's said, then there's nothing else I can really say to you.

Again... I never claimed I had a say in what you do with your squares, but you keep insinuating it after I repeatedly tell you I'm not.


shaun341 wrote:

Ben, I would not have thought you such the snob that the idea of a cigar considered more then an everyday going to someone you don't know as a problem. As a matter of fact there are plenty of cigars that I probably won't smoke and get if I won a quarter. Maybe I'll just throw them away without lighting them, so maybe I shouldn't be considered for this pool of chance.


Seriously? That whole paragraph is laughable. Well, if you hit a square and I have to send to you, then I hope you throw all the cigars away out of spite, that'll fix me... rofl, dumb af.


shaun341 wrote:

You can disagree all you want but you are wrong in your thinking on this one, and come of a little snobbish and unappreciative of what a charity is supposed to be all about.


I'm rarely wrong, and am certainly not wrong here. Here, let me sum it up for you:

You're basically arguing that it's ok to throw your money in the toilet if you want to.

I'm arguing it's ok for you to do just that, but I reserve the right to call you a dumb azz for doing it.


It's a moot point anyway because now I know the process it's not even a a thing... But now you're just arguing with me on hypotheticals.
shaun341 Offline
#111 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 8:05 PM EST
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You brought up troops not appreciating the cigars enough to get premiums. That is the most selfish statement I have ever heard on here bar none. You might as well wrote I am here to take advantage the kindness and give the bare minimum.

Your arguments are made in such a manner that they do not pertain because they are not the same as what we have here. I truly regret that this started but I am glad your true colors have shown.

You are most certainly wrong and I would guarantee everyone on this site would agree. Then again drive you Hellcat, play with your Titlist and Les Paul, and smoke your cigars knowing that they make you feel good while you are unwilling to share in the compassion for others.
bgz Offline
#112 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:01 PM EST
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You keep twisting my words and speculating on their meaning, but you need to stop dude. I haven't personally attacked you, nor have I said or implied half the crap you're saying I said.

I mean, you twisted everything I said to "troops not appreciating the cigars enough to get premiums". Dude, you're reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking, for real.

Also, I don't have a Hellcat, I don't currently play high end Titleist clubs, and I certainly don't have a vintage Les Paul.

You clearly are incapable understanding what I was saying so I won't even bother trying to explain it again.

Also, you somehow twisted all that into speculating about my morals and how I trade and play gambling games on this site. I have nothing to prove to you bro, you can ask anyone I've traded or gambled with on this site, I'm not what you are speculating me to be.

Oh yea, what two squares are you donating again?

I would hate for the draw to happen before you donate, hate for a 7-3 to popup on the one of your squares before you specify which ones.
corey sellers Offline
#113 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:17 PM EST
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Daimmmmmm can't we all just get along both of you are great guys I have dealt with both of you let's just quit attacking each other sorry I don't want to get involved but dammmmm just quit already let's see who wins I can tell you this I can't afford 20 buck cigars to send there is a 10 buck min I can do that but I got to order a few tomorrow to cover my a s s I got Cubans I will be sending but when you say Opus I say who all the Opus I have you great guys have sent me it is hard for me to smoke them stinger my vet and Ben you sent me some great smokes recently some of them are special occasion smokes to me maybe I should stay out of this bet
mikey1597 Offline
#114 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:18 PM EST
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CRIPPLE FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
corey sellers Offline
#115 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:18 PM EST
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Sorry my 2 cents

And I am about well never mind lmao

Beer

Herfing

bgz Offline
#116 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:21 PM EST
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Shaun de-friended me :(

Just a little argument dude.
corey sellers Offline
#117 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:26 PM EST
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Just let it die please no need in all this y'all need to kiss and make up we all have different opinions

Opinions are like a s s holes everyone has one

I will shut up with my drunk a s s and keep smoking this Lfd La nox that palama sent me great smoke
bgz Offline
#118 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 9:48 PM EST
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Ya, I can be done... I actually like shaun, just not seeing eye to eye on this thing here apparently :P
dkeage Offline
#119 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 10:34 PM EST
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So, I'm not sure if I follow, but sending cigars to the troops is throwing them away? Think
ypetryna Offline
#120 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 11:18 PM EST
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i mean, i wont require you to kiss and make up, but i do also think that some things got carried away and outta context.

lets all just get back to how awesome of a donkey king i am
delta1 Offline
#121 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 11:33 PM EST
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Not taking sides, but it seems that this is really for Drafter to decide....his pool...

I can see both sides, bgz's and shaun's. I remember someone saying awhile ago to only send everydays because of the rough transit and less than ideal conditions the packages are subjected to. But it does seem that Drafter was insinuating from his own experience that he knows some guys serving abroad who appreciate getting some nice smokes. I'm fine with keeping all squares worth two premiums, including the left-over spots designated for OpFTH. I will still pledge to cover three of them and be responsible for paying the ante if it's a losing square.

If one of those spots win, then the designated payers send two premiums, like for any other winning square. If a player wants to sweeten the ante to include a few everydays as a bonus gift, that is entirely up to him.

I'm guessing that Drafter will be the receiver for any OpFTH winnings, and will ship them out, so maybe a couple of bucks for shipping should be tossed in.
bgz Offline
#122 Posted: Fri, Feb 2 2018, 11:58 PM EST
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Ya, when I asked what to send early on, I was told pretty much the same thing about everydays. Opinions seemed to be pretty universal, which some of my arguments were basically regurgitated from what was told to me.

I have no issues, Drafter cleared it up just fine imo.
DrafterX Offline
#123 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 12:08 AM EST
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Well. I'm all for the remaining squares going to da troops... I'm not able to take a snapshot of the grid right now tho so I'll have to trust you guys on what is designated to the troops..

I shoulda laid out more rules from the start and maybe the ante was too high... But I didn't want to change them after the fact.. wouldn't be fair to those that already placed their bets so to speak...

Good luck everyone.. im looking forward to a good game.. Herfing
bgz Offline
#124 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 12:36 AM EST
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3 guys looking for action might pop by tomorrow, you never know :D
shaun341 Offline
#125 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 8:52 AM EST
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I picked my 2 extra squares for the troops. I designate the 2 squares across the top row as the ones for the troops.

I am in for 5 blocks for myself and 2 for the OpFTH
DrafterX Offline
#126 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 9:27 AM EST
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Thanks man.. Laugh
dkeage Offline
#127 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 9:39 AM EST
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In for 3
DrafterX Offline
#128 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 9:56 AM EST
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9 left.. Beer
stinger88 Offline
#129 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 10:35 AM EST
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I grabbed one more.



8 left.
NoisyTutor Offline
#130 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 2:49 PM EST
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I pick up 1 more as well. Just a few lwft.
bgz Offline
#131 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 5:48 PM EST
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Grabbed one more, 6 left.
bgz Offline
#132 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 8:45 PM EST
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bump
DrafterX Offline
#133 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 9:16 PM EST
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C'mon mans... 6 left.. Beer
RMAN4443 Offline
#134 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 10:48 PM EST
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put me down for one more e-mail sent
DrafterX Offline
#135 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 11:13 PM EST
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Huh

Email sent where..??? Huh
RMAN4443 Offline
#136 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 11:14 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Huh

Email sent where..??? Huh


to the lycos.com addy
frankj1 Offline
#137 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 11:22 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
to the lycos.com addy

OY!
That's the tip line for MrJones info.


sorry Jonesy, couldn't pass up the opportunity for a joke.
DrafterX Offline
#138 Posted: Sat, Feb 3 2018, 11:28 PM EST
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Ok...
bgz Offline
#139 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 12:06 AM EST
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Bump, 5 left.
DrafterX Offline
#140 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 12:39 AM EST
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We're coming down to it... Let's fill it up... I'm gonna be on the road a good part of the day tomorrow and will fill the remaining squares if needed..

Game on for sure... Herfing
gummy jones Offline
#141 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 8:02 AM EST
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Don't give up bgz!
You've never met an internet argument toy couldn't win!

boileremt Offline
#142 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 8:49 AM EST
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Took two more

Just 3 squares left now!
gummy jones Offline
#143 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 9:10 AM EST
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Ill take the last 3
gummy jones Offline
#144 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 9:10 AM EST
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Do I have to do anything here?
Log in anywhere?

Church is soon so I'll have to hurry
gummy jones Offline
#145 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 9:14 AM EST
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Also I flipped through this thread and want to be 100 percent clear on ante (after running ffb here for a few years and seeing the confusion).

2 $10+ good cigars per square?
DrafterX Offline
#146 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 9:20 AM EST
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Yes... Well, use your best judgement..

I need your email address for the invite...
bgz Offline
#147 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 10:06 AM EST
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Congrats Drafter!!!

You did it!!!
bgz Offline
#148 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 10:08 AM EST
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gummy jones wrote:
Don't give up bgz!
You've never met an internet argument toy couldn't win!



I'm just bull headed :/
chazbo Offline
#149 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 1:20 PM EST
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^delta, gummyjones claimed the last three, see above post 143.
delta1 Offline
#150 Posted: Sun, Feb 4 2018, 1:25 PM EST
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shoot, I didn't put two and three together...looks like gummy hasn't logged in and selected his squares yet...


I'll go back and un-select the R2/C6 square and delete post 149.. Thanks chazbo!
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