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bgz Offline
#51 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
banderl wrote:
What's irrational about pi?


I would try and explain it, but I don't think I can break it down fractionally for you.
Kawak Offline
#52 Posted:
Joined: 11-26-2007
Posts: 4,025
bgz wrote:
That was the most irrational comment I've seen you post.



Wow, you know how irrational that had to be then...
bgz Offline
#53 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023

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Herfing <--Average cbidder.
banderl Offline
#54 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Beowulf
Translation by Seamus Heaney
So.
The Spear
-
Danes in days gone by
And the kings who ruled them had courage and greatness.
We have heard of those princes’ heroic campaigns.
There was Shield Sheafson, scourge of
many tribes,
A wrecker of mead
-
benches, rampaging among foes.
This terror of the hall
-
troops had come far.
A foundling to start with, he would flourish later on
As his powers waxed and his worth was proved.
In the end each clan on the outlying coasts
Beyon
d the whale
-
road had to yield to him
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And begin to pay tribute.
That was one good king.
Afterwards a boy
-
child was born to Shield,
A cub
in the yard, a comfort sent
By God to that nation.
He knew what they had th
oled,
The long times and troubles they’d come through
Without a leader; so the Lord of Life,
The glorious Almighty, made this man renowned.
Shield had fathered a famous son:
Beow’s name was known through the north.
And a young prince must be prudent like t
hat,
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Giving freely while his father lives
So that afterwards in age when fighting starts
Steadfast companions will stand beside him
And hold the line.
Behavior that’s admired
Is the path to power among people everywhere.
Shield was still thriving when his time came
And he crossed over into the Lord’s keeping.
His warrior band did what he bade them
banderl Offline
#55 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
When he laid down the law among the Danes:
They shouldered him out to the sea’s flood,
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T
he chief they revered who had long ruled them.
A ring
-
whorled prow rode in the harbour,
Ice
-
clad, outbound, a craft for a prince.
They stretched their beloved lord in his boat,
Laid out by the mast, amidships,
The great ring
-
giver.
Far
-
fetched treasures
Were piled upon him, and precious gear.
I never heard before of a ship so well furbished
With battle tackle, bladed weapons
And coats of mail.
The massed treasure
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Was loaded on top of him: it would travel far
On out into
the ocean’s sway.
They decked his body no less bountifully
With offerings than those first ones did
Who cast him away when he was a child
And launched him alone out over the waves.
And they set a gold standard up
High above his head and let him drift
To
wind and tide, bewailing him
And mourning their loss.
No man can tell,
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No wise man in hall or weathered veteran
Knows for certain who salvaged that load.
Then it fell to Beow to keep the forts.
He was well regarded
and ruled the Danes
For a long time after his father took leave
Of his life on earth.
And then his heir,
The great Halfdane, held sway
For as long as he lived, their elder and warlord.
He was four times a father, this fighter prince:
One by one they ente
red the world,
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Heorogar, Hrothgar, the good Halga
And a daughter, I have heard, who was Onela’s queen,
frankj1 Offline
#56 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,219
I'm a wrecker of mead too
banderl Offline
#57 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
A balm in bed to the battle
-
scarred Swede.
The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.
Friends and kinsmen flo
cked to his ranks,
Young followers, a force that grew
To be a mighty army.
So his mind turned
To hall
-
building: he handed down orders
For men to work on a great mead
-
hall
Meant to be a wonder of the world forever;
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It would be his t
hrone
-
room and there he would dispense
His God
-
given goods to young and old
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But not the common land or people’s lives.
Far and wide through the world, I have heard,
Orders for work to adorn that wall stead
Were sent to many peoples.
And soon it stood
there,
Finished and ready, in full view,
The hall of halls.
Heorot was the name
He had settled on it, whose utterance was law.
Nor did he renege, but doled out rings
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And torques at the table.
The hall towered,
Its gables wide and high
and awaiting
A barbarous burning.
That doom abided,
But in time it would come: the killer instinct
Unleashed among in
-
laws, the blood
-
lust rampant.
Then a powerful demon, a prowler through the dark,
Nursed a hard grievance.
It harrowed him
To hear the d
in of the loud banquet
Every day in the hall, the harp being struck
And the clear song of a skilled poet
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Telling with mastery of man’s beginnings,
How the Almighty had made the earth
A gleaming plain gird
led with waters;
In His splendour He set the sun and moon
To be earth’s lamplight, lanterns for men,
And filled the broad lap of the world
With branches and leaves; and quickened life
In every other thing that moved.
So times were pleasant for the people
there
Until finally one, a fiend out of Hell,
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Began to work his evil in the world.
Grendel was the name of this grim demon
Haunting the marches, marauding round the heath
And the desolate fens; he had dwelt for a time
In misery among th
e banished monsters,
Cain’s clan, whom the creator had outlawed
And condemned as outcasts.
For the killing of Abel
The Eternal Lord had exacted a price:
Cain got no good from committing that murder
Because the Almighty made him anathema
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And out of the curse of his exile there sprang
Ogres and elves and evil phantoms
And the giants too who strove with God
Time and again until He gave them their final reward.
So, after nightfall, Grendel set out
For the lofty house, to see how the Ring
-
Danes
Were settling into it after their drink,
And there he came upon them,
a company of the best
Asleep from their feasting, insensible to pain
And human sorrow.
Suddenly then
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The God
-
cursed brute was creating havoc:
Greedy and grim, he grabbed thirty men
From their resting places and rushed to his lair,
Flushed up and inflamed from the raid,
Blundering back with the butchered corpses.
Then as dawn brightened and the day broke
Grendel’s powers of destruction were
plain:
Their wassail was over, they wept to heaven
And mourned under morning.
Their mighty prince,
The storied leader, sat stricken and helpless,
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Humiliated by the loss of his guard,
Bewildered and stunned, staring aghast
And the demo
n’s trail, in deep distress.
He was numb with grief, but got no respite
For one night later the merciless Grendel
Struck again with more gruesome murders.
Malignant by nature, he never showed remorse.
It was easy then to meet with a man
Shifting himself to
a safer distance
To bed in the bothies, for who could be blind
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To the evidence of his eyes, the obviousness
Of that hall
-
watcher’s hate?
Whoever escaped
Kept a weather
-
eye open and moved away.
So Grendel ruled in defiance of right,
One aga
inst all, until the greatest house
In the world stood empty, a deserted wall stead.
For twelve winters, seasons of woe,
The lord of the Shieldings suffered under
His load of sorrow; and so, before long,
The news was known over the whole
world.
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Sad lays were sung about the beset king,
The vicious raids of Grendel,
His long and unrelenting feud,
Nothing but war; how he would never
Parley or make peace with any Dane
Nor stop his death
-
dealing nor pay the death
-
pri
ce.
No counsellor could ever expect
Fair reparation from those rabid hands.
All were endangered; young and old
Were hunted down by that dark death
-
shadow
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Who lurked and swooped in the long nights
On the misty moors; no
body knows
Where these reavers from Hell roam on their errands.
So Grendel waged his lonely war,
Inflicting constant cruelties on the people,
Atrocious hurt.
He took over Heorot,
Haunted the glittering hall after dark,
But the throne itself, the treasure
-
seat,
He was kept from approaching;; he was the Lord’s outcast.
These were hard times, heart
-
breaking
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For the prince of the Shieldings; powerful counselors,
The highest in the land, would lend advice,
Plotting how best the bold defen
ders
Might resist and beat off sudden attacks.
Sometimes at pagan shrines they vowed
Offering to idols, swore oaths
That the killer of souls might come to their aid
And save the people.
That was their way,
Their heathenish hope; deep in their hearts
They
remembered Hell.
The Almighty Judge
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Of good deeds and bad, the Lord God,
Head of the Heavens and High King of the World,
Was unknown to them.
Oh, cursed is he
Who in time of trouble had to thrust his soul
In the fire’s embrace, forfeiti
ng help;
He has nowhere to turn.
But blessed is he
Who after death can approach the Lord
And find friendship in the Father’s embrace.
So that troubled time continued, woe
That never stopped, steady affliction
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For Halfdane’s son, too
hard an ordeal.
There was panic after dark, people endured
Raids in the night, riven by terror.
banderl Offline
#58 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
When he heard about Grendel, Hygelac’s thane
Was on home ground, over in Geatland.
There was no one else like him alive.
In his day, he was the mightiest man
on earth,
High
-
born and powerful.
He ordered a boat
That would ply the waves.
He announced his plan:
To sail the swan’s roads and search out that king,
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The famous prince who needed defenders.
Nobody tried to keep him from going,
No elder
denied him, dear as he was to them.
Instead, they inspected omens and spurred
His ambition to go, whilst he moved about
Like the leader he was, enlisting men,
The best he could find; with fourteen others
The warrior boarded the boat as captain,
A canny pi
lot along coast and currents.
Time went by, the boat was on water,
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In close under the cliffs.
Men climbed eagerly up the gangplank,
Sand churned in surf, shining war
-
gear
In the vessel’s hold, then heaved out,
Away with a will in th
eir wood
-
wreathed ship.
Over the waves, with the wind behind her
And foam at her neck, she flew like a bird
Until her curved prow had covered the distance
And on the following day, at the due hour,
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Those seafarers sighted land,
Sun
lit cliffs, sheer crags
And looming headlands, the landfall they sought.
It was the end of their voyage and the Geats vaulted
Over the side, out on to the sand,
And moored their ship.
There was a clash of mail
And a thresh of gear.
They thanked God
For
that easy crossing on a calm sea.
When the watchman on the wall, the Shieldings’ lookout
Whose job it was to guard the sea
-
cliffs,
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Saw shields glittering on the gangplank
And battle
-
equipment being unloaded
He had to find out who
and what
The arrivals were.
So he rode to the shore,
This horseman of Hrothgar’s, and challenged them
In formal terms, flourishing his spear:
“What kind of men are you who arrive
Rigged out for combat in coats of mail,
Sailing here over the sea lanes
In
your steep
-
hulled boat?
I have been stationed
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As lookout on this coast for a long time.
My job is to watch the waves for raiders,
And danger to the Danish shore.
Never before has a force under arms
Disembarked so openly
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not bothering t
o ask
If the sentries allowed them safe passage
Or the clan had consented.
Nor have I seen
A mightier man
-
at
-
arms on this earth
Than the one standing here: unless I am mistaken,
He is truly noble.
This is no mere
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Hanger
-
on in a hero’s armour.
So now, before you fare inland
As interlopers, I have to be informed
About who you are and where you hail from.
Outsiders from across the water,
I say it again: the sooner you tell
Where you came from and why, the better.”
The
leader of the troop unlocked his word
-
hoard;
The distinguished one delivered this answer:
“We belong by birth to the Geat people
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And owe allegiance to Lord Hygelac.
In my day, my father was a famous man,
A noble warrior name Ecgtheow.
He outlasted many a long winter
And went on his way.
All over the world
Wise men in council continue to remember him.
We come in good faith to find your lord
And nation’s shield, the son of Halfdane.
Give us the right to advise and direction.
We have arri
ved here on a great errand
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To the lord of the Danes, and I believe therefore
There should be nothing hidden or withheld between us.
So tell us if what we have heard is true
About this threat, whatever it is,
This danger abroad in the d
ark nights,
This corpse
-
maker mongering death
In the Shieldings’ country.
I come to proffer
My wholehearted help and counsel.
I can show the wise Hrothgar a way
To defeat his enemy and find respite
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If any respite is to reach him,
ever.
I can calm the
turmoil and terror in his mind.
Otherwise, he must endure woes
And live with grief for as long as his hall
Stands at the horizon, on its high ground.”
Undaunted, sitting astride his horse,
The coast
-
guard answered, “Anyone with gumpt
ion
And a sharp mind will take the measure
Of two things: what’s said and what’s done.
I believe what you have told me: that you are a troop
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Loyal to our king.
So come ahead
With your arms and your gear, and I will guide you.
What’s more, I
’ll order my own comrades
On their word of honor to watch your boat
Down there on the strand
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keep her safe
HuckFinn Offline
#59 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
Kawak wrote:
Especially after he bombed Pearl Harbor. But it wasn't over by any means

Huh?
Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.
HuckFinn Offline
#60 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
Banderl? You kuwaking up?
banderl Offline
#61 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
In her fresh tar, until the time comes
For her curved prow to preen on the waves
And bear this hero back to Geatland.
May one so valiant and ventur
esome
Come unharmed through the clash of battle.”
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So they went on their way.
The ship rode the water,
Broad
-
beamed, bound by its hawser
And anchored fast.
Boar
-
shapes flashed
Above their cheek
-
guards, the brightly forged
Work of
goldsmiths, watching over
Those stern
-
faced men.
They marched in step,
Hurrying on till the timbered hall
Rose before them, radiant with gold.
Nobody on earth knew of another
Building like it.
Majesty lodged there,
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And its ligh
t shone over many lands.
So their gallant escort guided them
To that dazzling stronghold and indicated
The shortest way to it; then the noble warrior
Wheeled on his horse and spoke these words:
“It is time for me to go.
May the Almighty
Father keep you an
d in His kindness
Watch over your exploits.
I’m away to the sea,
Back on alert against enemy raiders.”
It was a paved track, a path that kept them
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In marching order.
Their mail
-
shirts glinted,
Hard and hand
-
linked; the high
-
gloss
iron
Of their armour rang.
So they duly arrived
In their grim war
-
graith and gear at the hall,
And, weary from the sea, stacked wide shields
Of the toughest hardwood against the wall,
Then collapsed on the benches; battle
-
dress
And weapons clashed.
They
collected their spears
In a seafarer’s stook, a stand of grayish
Tapering ash.
And the troops themselves
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Were as good as their weapons.
Then a proud warrior
Questioned the men concerning
their origins:
“Where do you come from, carrying these
Decorated shields and shirts of mail,
These cheek
-
hinged helmets and javelins?
I am Hrothgar’s herald and officer.
I have never seen so impressive or large
An assembly of strangers.
Stoutness of heart
,
Bravery not banishment, must have brought you to Hrothgar.”
The man whose name was known for courage,
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The Geat leader, resolute in his helmet,
Answered in return: “We are retainers
From Hygelac’s band.
Beowulf is my name.
If your lord
and master, the most renowned
Son of Halfdane, will hear me out
And graciously allow me to greet him in person,
I am ready and willing to report my errand.”
Wulfgar replied, a Wendel chief
Renowned as a warrior, well known for his wisdom
And the temper o
f his mind: “I will take this message,
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In accordance with your wish, to our noble king,
Our dear lord, friend of the Danes,
The giver of rings.
I will go and ask him
About your coming here, then hurry back
With whatever reply it pleases him to give.”
With that he turned to where Hrothgar sat,
An old man among retainers;
The valiant follower stood four
-
square
In front of his king: he knew the courtesies.
Wulfgar addressed his dear lord:
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“People from Geatland have put
ashore.
They have sailed far over the wide sea.
They call the chief in charge of their band
By the name of Beowulf.
They beg, my lord,
An audience with you, exchange of words
And formal greeting.
Most gracious Hrothgar,
Do not refuse them, but grant the
m a reply.
From their arms and appointment, they appear well
-
born
And worthy of respect, especially the one
Who has led them this far: he is formidable indeed.”
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Hrothgar, protector of Shieldings, replied:
“I used to know him when I was a yo
ung boy.
His father before him was called Ecgtheow.
Hrethel the Greath gave Ecgtheow
His daughter in marriage.
This man is their son,
Here to follow up an old friendship.
A crew of seamen who sailed for me once
With a gift
-
cargo across to Geatland
Returned with marvelous tales about him:
A thane, they declared,
with the strength of thirty
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In the grip of each hand.
Now Holy God
Has, in His Goodness, guided him here
To the West
-
Danes, to defend us from Grendel.
This is my hope; and fo
r his heroism
I will recompense him with a rich treasure.
Go immediately, bid him and the Geats
He has is attendance to assemble and enter.
Say, moreover, when you speak to them,
That they are welcome in Denmark.”
At the do
or of the hall,
Wulfgar duly delivered the message:
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“My lord, the conquering king of the Danes,
Bids me announce that he knows your ancestry;
Also that he welcomes you here to Heorot
And salutes your arrival from across the sea.
You
are free now to move forward
To meet Hrothgar, in helmets and armor,
But shields must stay here and spears be stacked
Until the outcome of the audience is clear.”
The hero arose, surrounded closely
By his powerful thanes.
A party remained
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Under orders to keep watch on the arms;
The rest proceeded, lead by their prince
Under Heorot’s roof.
And standing on the hearth
In webbed links that the smith had woven,
The fine
-
forged mesh of his gleaming mail shirt,
Resolute in his helmet,
Beowulf spoke:
“Greetings to Hrothgar.
I am Hygelac’s kinsman,
One of his hall
-
troop.
When I was younger,
I had great triumphs.
Then news of Grendel,
Hard to ignore, reached me at home:
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Sailors brought stories of the plight you s
uffer
In this legendary hall, how it lies deserted,
Empty and useless once the evening light
Hides itself under Heaven’s dome.
So every elder and experience councilman
Among my people supported my resolve
To come here to you, King Hrothgar,
Because all kn
ew of my awesome strength.
They had seen me boltered in the blood of enemies
When I battled and bound five beasts,
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Raided a troll
-
nest and in the night
-
sea
Slaughtered sea
-
brutes.
I have suffered extremes
And avenged the Geats (their
enemies brought it
Upon themselves, I devastated them).
Now I mean to be a match for Grendel,
Settle the outcome in a single combat.
banderl Offline
#62 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
HuckFinn wrote:
Banderl? You kuwaking up?



It's Beowulf, Dude!

Need to get my Vikings fix.
Shame that the hot blonde lost her looks in the last episode.
banderl Offline
#63 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
And so, my request, O king of Bright
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Danes,
Dear prince pf the Shieldings, friend of the people
And their ring of defense,
my one request
Is that you won’t refuse me, who have come this far,
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The privilege of purifying Heorot,
With my own men to help me, and nobody else.
I have heard moreover that the monster scorns
In his reckless way to use weapons;
Therefore, to heighten Hygelac’s fame
And gladden his heart, I hereby renounce
Sword and the shelter of the broad shield,
The heavy war
-
board: hand
-
to
-
hand
Is how it will be, a life
-
and
-
death
Fight with the fiend.
Whichever one death fells
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Must deem it a just judgment by God.
If Grendel wins, it will be a gruesome day;
He will glut himself on the Geats in the war
-
hall,
Swoop without fear on that flower of manhood
As on others before.
Then my face won’t be there
To be covered in death; h
e will carry me away
As he goes to ground, gorged and bloodied;
He will run gloating with my raw corpse
And feed on it alone, in a cruel frenzy,
Fouling his moor
-
nest.
No need then
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To lament for long or lay out my body:
If the battl
e takes me, send back
This breast
-
webbing that Weland fashioned
And Hrethel gave me, to Hygelac.
Fate goes ever as fate must.”
Hrothgar, the helmet of the Shieldings, spoke:
“Beowulf, my friend, you have traveled here
To favour
us with help and fight for us.
There was a feud one time, begun by your father.
With his own hands he had killed Heatholaf,
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Who was a Wulfing; so war was looming
And his people, in fear of it, forced him to leave.
He came away then
over rolling waves
To the South Danes here, the sons of honor.
I was then in the full flush of kingship,
Establishing my sway over all the rich strongholds
Of this heroic land.
Heorogar,
My older brother and the better man,
Also a son of Halfdane’s, had
died.
Finally I healed the feud by paying:
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I shipped a treasure
-
trove to the Wulfings
And Ecgtheow acknowledged me with oaths of allegiance.
“It bothers me to have to burden anyone
With all the grief Grendel has caused
And t
he havoc he has wreaked upon us in Heorot,
Our humiliations.
My household
-
guard
Are on the wane, fate sweeps them away
Into Grendel’s clutches
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but God can easily
Halt these raids and harrowing attacks!
“Time and again, when the goblets passed
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And seasoned fighters got flushed with beer
They would pledge themselves to protect Heorot
And wait for Grendel with whetted swords.
But when dawn broke and day crept in
Over each empty, blood
-
spattered bench,
The floor of the mead
-
hall
where they had feasted
Would be slick with slaughter.
And so they died,
Faithful retainers, and my following dwindled.
Now take your place at the table, relish
The triumph of heroes to your heart’s content.”
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Then a bench was cleared in that b
anquet hall
So the Geats could have room to be together
And the party sat, proud in their bearing,
Strong and stalwart.
An attendant stood by
With a decorated pitcher, pouring bright
Helpings of mead.
And the minstrel sang,
Filling Heorot with his head
-
c
learing voice,
Gladdening that great rally of Danes and Geats.
From where he crouched at the king’s feet,
Unferth, a son of Ecglaf’s, spoke
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Contrary words.
Beowulf’s coming,
His sea
-
braving, made him sick with envy:
He c
ould not brook or abide the fact
That anyone else alive under heaven
Might enjoy greater regard than he did:
“Are you the Beowulf who took on Breca
In a swimming match on the open sea,
Risking the water just to prove you could win?
It was sheer vanity made
you venture out
On the main deep.
And no matter who tried,
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Friend or foe, to deflect the pair of you,
Neither would back down: the sea
-
test obsessed you.
You waded in, embracing water,
Taking its measure, mastering currents,
Ridin
g on the swell.
The ocean swayed,
Winter went wild in the waves, but you vied
For seven nights; and then he outswam you,
Came ashore the stronger contender.
He was cast up safe and sound one morning
Among the Heathoreams, then made his way
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To where he belonged in Bronding country,
Home again, sure of his ground
In strong room and bawn.
So Breca made good
His boast upon you and was proved right.
No matter, therefore, how you may have fared
In every bout and battle until now,
This
time you’ll be worsted;; no one has ever
Outlasted an entire night against Grendel.”
Beowulf, Ecgtheow’s son, replied:
“Well, friend Unferth, you have had your say
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About Breca and me.
But it was mostly beer
That was doing the talking.
The
truth is this:
When
the going was heavy in those high waves,
I was the strongest swimmer of all.
We’d been children together and we grew up
Daring ourselves to outdo each other,
Boasting and urging each other to risk
Our lives on the sea.
And so it turn
ed out.
Each of us swam holding a sword,
A naked, hard
-
proofed blade for protection
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Against the whale
-
beasts.
But Breca could never
Move out farther or faster from me
Than I could manage to move from him.
Shoulder to shoulder, we
struggled on
For five nights, until the long flow
And pitch of the waves, the perishing cold,
Night falling and winds from the North
Drove us apart.
The deep boiled up
And its wallowing sent the sea
-
brutes wild.
My armor held me to hold out;
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My hard
-
ringed chain
-
mail, hand
-
forged and linked,
A fine, close
-
fitting filigree of gold,
Kept me safe when some ocean creature
Pulled me to the bottom.
Pinioned fast
And swathed in its grip, I was granted one
Final chance: my sword plun
ged
And the ordeal was over.
Through my own hands
The fury of battle had finished off the sea
-
beast.
“Time and again, foul things attacked me,
Lurking and stalking, but I lashed out,
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Gave as good as I got with my sword.
My flesh was
not for feasting on,
There would be no monsters gnawing and gloating
Over their banquet at the bottom of the sea.
Instead, in the morning, mangled and sleeping
The sleep of the sword, they slopped and floated
Like the ocean’s leavings.
From now on
Sailors
would the safe, the deep
-
sea raids
Were over for good.
Light came from the East,
Bright guarantee of God, and the waves
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Went quiet; I could see the headlands
And buffeted cliffs.
Often, for undaunted courage,
Fate spares the man it
has not already marked.
However it had occurred, my sword had killed
Nine sea monsters.
Such night
-
dangers
And hard ordeals I have never heard of
Nor of a man so desolate in surging waves.
But worn out as I was, I survived,
Came through with my life.
Th
e ocean lifted
And laid me ashore, I landed safe
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On the coast of Finland.
Now, I cannot recall
any fight you entered, Unferth,
That bears comparison.
I don’t boast when I say
That neither you nor
Breca ever were much
Celebrated for swordsmanship
Or for facing danger in the battlefield.
You killed your own kith and kin,
So for all your cleverness and quick tongue,
You will suffer damnation in the pits of hell.
The fact it, Unferth, if you were truly
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As keen or courageous as you claim to be
Grendel would never have got away with
Such unchecked atrocity, attacks on your king,
Havoc in Heorot and horrors everywhere.
But he knows he need never be in dread
Of your blade making a mizzle
of his blood
Or of vengeance arriving ever from this quarter
---
From the Victory
-
Shieldings, the shoulderers of the spear.
He knows he can trample down you Danes
To his heart’s content, humiliate and murder
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Without fear of reprisal.
But he will find me different.
I will show him how Geats shape to kill
In the heat of battle.
Then whoever wants to
May go bravely to morning mead, when morning light,
Scarfed in sun
-
dazzle, shines forth from the south
And brings another daybreak to the
world.”
Then the gray
-
haired treasure
-
giver was glad;
Far
-
famed in battle, the prince of Bright
-
Danes
And keeper of his people counted on Beowulf,
On the warrior’s steadfastness and his word.
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So the laughter started, the din got
louder
And the crowd was happy.
Wealhtheow came in,
Hrothgar’s queen, observing the courtesies.
Adorned in her gold, she graciously saluted
The men in the hall, then handed the cup
First to Hrothgar, their homeland’s guardian,
Urging him to drink deep and
enjoy it,
Because he was dear to them.
And he drank it down
Like the warlord he was, with festive cheer.
So the Helming woman went on her rounds,
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Queenly and dignified, decked out in rings,
Offering the goblet to all ranks,
Tre
ating the household and the assembled troop
Until it was Beowulf’s turn to take it from her hand.
With measured words she welcomed the Geat
And thanked God for granting her wish
That a deliverer she could believe in would arrive
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#64 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,219
HuckFinn wrote:
Huh?
Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

not according to Animal House.
a real fave around here.
banderl Offline
#65 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
To ease their afflictions.
He accepted the cup,
A daunting man, dangerous in action
And eager for it always.
He addressed Wealhtheow;
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Beowulf, son of Ecgtheow, said:
“I had a fixed purpose when I put out to sea.
As I sat in the boat with my band of men,
I meant
to perform to the uttermost
What your people wanted or perish in the attempt,
In the fiend’s clutches.
And I shall fulfill that purpose,
Prove myself with a proud deed
Or meet my death here in the mead
-
hall.”
This formal boast by Beowulf the Geat
Pleased the lady well and she went to sit
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By Hrothgar, regal and arrayed with gold.
Then it was like old times in the echoing hall,
Proud talk and the people happy,
Loud and excited; until soon enough
Halfdane’s heir had to be aw
ay
To his night’s rest.
He realized
That the demon was going to descend on the hall
That he had plotted all day, from dawn
-
light
Until darkness gathered again over the world
And stealthy night
-
shades came stealing forth
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Under the cloud
-
murk.
The company stood
As the two leaders took leave of each other:
Hrothgar wished Beowulf health and good luck,
Named him hall
-
warden and announced as follows:
“Never, since my hand could hold a shield
Have I entrusted or given control
Of the Dane’s hall to
anyone but you.
Ward and guard it, for it is the greatest of houses.
Be on your mettle now, keep in mind your fame,
Beware of the enemy.
There’s nothing you wish for
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That won’t be yours if you win through alive.”
Hrothgar
departed then with his house
-
guard.
The lord of the Shieldings, their shelter in war,
Left the mead
-
hall to lie with Wealhtheow,
His queen and bedmate.
The King of Glory
(as people learned) had posted a lookout
Who was a match for Grendel, a guard agains
t monsters,
Special protection to the Danish prince.
And the Geat placed complete trust
In his strength of limb and the Lord’s favor.
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He began to remove his iron breast
-
mail,
Took off the helmet and handed his attendant
The patterned
sword, a smith’s masterpiece,
Ordering him to keep the equipment guarded.
And before he bedded down, Beowulf,
That prince of goodness, proudly asserted:
“When it comes to fighting, I count myself
As dangerous any day as Grendel.
So it won’t be a cutting ed
ge I’ll wield
To mow him down, easily as I might.
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He has no ideas of the arts of war,
Of shield or sword
-
play, though he does possess
A wild strength.
No weapons, therefore,
For either this night: unarmed he shall face me
If face m
e he dares.
And may the Divine Lord
In His wisdom grant victory
To whichever side He sees fit.”
Then down the brave man lay with his bolster
Under his head and his whole company
Of sea
-
rovers at rest beside him.
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None of
them expected he would ever see
His homeland again or get back
Had boldly fulfilled his boast to the Danes:
He had healed and relieved a huge distress,
Unremitting humiliations,
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The hard fate they’d been forced to undergo,
No small
affliction. Clear proof of this
Could be seen in the hand the hero displayed
High up near the roof: the whole of Grendel’s
Shoulder and arm, his awesome grasp.
Then morning came and many a warrior
Gathered, as I have heard, around the gift
-
hall,
Clan
-
chie
fs flocking from far and near
Down wide
-
ranging roads, wondering greatly
At the monster’s footprint.
His fatal departure
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Was regretted by no one who witnessed his trail,
The ignominious marks of his flight
Where he’d sulked away,
exhausted in spirit
And beaten in battle, bloodying the path,
Hauling his doom to the demons’ mere.
The bloodshot water wallowed and surged,
There were loathsome up throws and over turnings
Of waves and gore and would
-
slurry.
With his death upon him, he ha
d dived deep
Into his marsh den, drowned out his life
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And his heathen soul: hell claimed him there.
Then away they rode, the old retainers
With many a young man following after,
A troop on horseback, in high spirits
On their bay
steeds.
Beowulf’s doings
Were praised over and over again.
Nowhere, they said, north or south
Between the two seas or under the tall sky
On the broad earth was there anyone better
To raise a shield or to rule a kingdom.
banderl Offline
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Posts: 10,153
Yet there was
no laying of blame on their lord,
The noble Hrothgar; he was a good king.
At times the war
-
band broke into a gallop,
Letting their chestnut horses race
Wherever they found the going good
On those well
-
known tracks.
Meanwhile, a thane
Of the king’s
household, a carrier of tales,
A traditional singer deeply schooled
In the lore of the past, linked a new theme
To a strict metre.
The man started
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To recite with skill, rehearsing Beowulf’s
Triumphs and feats in well
-
fashio
ned lines,
Entwining his words.
He told what he’d heard
Repeated in songs of Sigemund’s exploits,
All of those many feats and marvels,
The struggles and wanderings of Wael’s son,
Things unknown to anyone,
Except Fitela, f
euds and foul doings
Confided from uncle to nephew when he felt
The urge to speak of them: always had they been
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Partners in the fight, friends in need.
They killed giants, their conquering swords
Had brought them down.
After his death
Sigemund’s glory
grew and grew
Because of his courage
when he killed the dragon,
The guardian of the hoard.
Under gray stone
He had dared to enter
all by himself
To face the worst
without Fitela.
But nit came to pass
that his sword plunged
Right through
those
radiant scales
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And drove into the wall.
The dragon died of it.
His daring had given him
total possession
Of the treasure hoard ,
his to dispose of
However he liked.
He loaded a boat:
Wael’s son
weighted her hold
With dazzling spoils.
The hot dragon melted.
Sigemund’s name
was known everywhere.
He was utterly valiant
and venturesome,
A fence round his fighters
and flourished therefore
After Ki
ng Heremond’s
prowess declined
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And his campaigns slowed down.
The king was betrayed,
Ambushed in Jutland,
overpowered
And done away with.
The waves of his grief
Had beaten him down,
made him a burden,
A source o
f anxiety
to his own nobles:
That expedition
was often condemned
To those earlier times
by experienced men,
Men who relied
on his lordship for redress,
Who presumed that the part
of a prince was to thrive
On his father’s throne
and
protect the nation,
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The Shielding land
where they lived and belonged,
Its holdings and strongholds.
Such was Beowulf
In the affection of his friends
and of everyone alive.
But evil entered
into Heremod.
Meanwhile, the Dane
kept racing their mounts
Down sandy lanes.
The light of day
Broke and kept brightening.
Bands of retainers
Galloped in excitement to the gabled hall
To see the marvel; and the king himself,
Guardian of the ring
-
hoard, goodness in person,
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Walked in majesty from the women’s quarters
With a numerous train, attended by his queen
And her crowd of maidens, across the mead
-
hall.
When Hrothgar arrived at the hall, he spoke,
Standing on the steps, under the steep eaves,
Gazing at the roofwork and
Grendel’s talon:
“First and foremost, let the Almighty Father
Be thanked for this sight.
I suffered a long
Harrowing by Grendel.
But the Heavenly Shepherd
Can work his wonders always and everywhere.
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Not long since, it seemed I would never
Be granted the slightest solace or relief
From any of my burdens: the best of houses
Glittered and reeked and ran with blood.
This one worry outweighed all others
---
A constant distress to counselors entrusted
With defending the people’s forts from assaul
t
By monsters and demons.
But now a man,
With the Lord’s assistance, has accomplished something
None of us could manage before now
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For all our efforts.
Whoever she was
Who brought forth this flower of manhood,
If she is still
alive, that woman can say
That in her labor the Lord of Ages
Bestowed a grace on her.
So now,
Beowulf,
adopt you in my heart as a dear son.
Nourish and maintain this new connection,
You noblest of men;; there’ll be nothing you want for,
No worldly good th
at won’t be yours.
I have often honored smaller achievements,
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Recognized warriors not nearly as worthy,
Lavished rewards on the less deserving.
But you have made yourself immortal
By your glorious action.
May the Lord of Ages
Cont
inue to keep and requite you well.”
Beowulf, son of Ecgtheow, spoke:
“We have gone through a glorious endeavor.
Kawak Offline
#67 Posted:
Joined: 11-26-2007
Posts: 4,025
frankj1 wrote:
not according to Animal House.
a real fave around here.


Huckleberry doesn't get out of the basement much...
banderl Offline
#68 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
And been much favored in this fight we dared
Against the unknown.
Nevertheless,
If you could have seen the monster himself
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Where he lay beaten, I would have been better pleased.
My plan was to pounce, pin him down
In a tight grip and grapple him to death
---
Have him panting for life, powerless and clasped
In my bare hands, his body in thrall.
But I couldn’t stop him from
slipping my hold.
The Lord allowed it, my lock on him
Wasn’t strong enough, he struggled fiercely
And broke and ran.
Yet he bought his freedom
At a high price, for he left his hand
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And arm and shoulder to show he had been
here,
A cold comfort for having come among us.
And now he won’t be long for this world.
He has done his worst but the wound will end him.
He is hasped and hooped and hirpling with pain,
Limped and looped in it.
Like a man outlawed
For wickedness, he mush
await
The mighty judgment of God in majesty.”
There was less tampering and big talk then
From Unferth the boaster, less of his blather
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As the hall
-
thanes eyed the awful proof
Of the hero’s prowess, the splayed hand
Up under the eave
s.
Every nail,
Claw
-
scale and spur, every spike
And welt on the hand of that heathen brute
Was like barbed steel.
Everybody said
There was no honed iron hard enough
To pierce him through, no time
-
proofed blade
That could cut his brutal, blood
-
caked claw.
Then the order was given for all hands
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To help refurbish Heorot immediately:
Men and women thronging the wine
-
hall,
Getting it ready.
Gold thread shone
In the wall
-
hangings, woven scenes
That attracted and held the eye’s attention.
But iron
-
braced as the inside of it had been,
The bright room lay in ruins now.
The very doors had been dragged from their hinges.
Only the roof remained unscathed
By the time the guilt
-
fouled fiend turned tail
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In despair of his life.
But death is not easily
Escaped from by anyone:
All of us with souls, earth
-
dwellers
And children of men, must make our way
To a destination already ordained
Where the body, after the banqueting,
Sleeps on its deathbed.
T
hen the due time arrived
For Halfdane’s son to proceed to the hall.
The king himself would sit down to feast.
No group ever gathered in greater numbers
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Or better order around their ring
-
giver.
The benches filled with famous men
W
ho fell to with relish; round upon round
Of mead was passed; those powerful kinsmen,
Hrothgar and Hrothulf, were in high spirits
In the raftered hall.
Inside Heorot
There was nothing but friendship.
The Shielding nation
Was not yet familiar with feud and
betrayal.
Then Halfdane’s son presented Beowulf
With gold standards as a victory gift,
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An embroidered banner; also breast
-
mail
And a helmet; and a sword carried high,
That was both precious object and a token of honor.
So Beowulf
drank his drink, at ease;
It was hardly a shame to be showered with such gifts
In front of the hall
-
troops.
There haven’t been many
Moments, I am sure, when men have exchanged
Four such treasures at so friendly a sitting.
An embossed ring, a band lapped w
ith wire
Arched over the helmet: head
-
protection
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To keep the keen
-
ground cutting edge
From damaging it when danger threatened
And the man was battling behind his shield.
Next the king ordered eight horses
With gold bridles to be brough
t through the yard
Into the hall.
The harness of one
Included a saddle of sumptuous design,
The battle
-
seat where the son of Halfdane
Rode when he wished to join the sword
-
play:
Wherever the killing and carnage were the worst,
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He would
be to the fore, fighting hard.
The Danish prince, descendent of Ing,
Handed over both the arms and the horses,
Urging Beowulf to use them well.
And so their leader, the lord and guard
Of coffer and strong room, with customary grace
Bestowed upon Beowulf
both sets of gifts.
A fair witness can see how well each one behaved.
The chieftain went on to reward the others:
Each man on the bench who had sailed with Beowulf
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And risked the voyage received a bounty,
Some treasured possession.
An
d compensation,
A price in gold, was settled for the Geat
Grendel had killed cruelly earlier
--
As he would have killed more, had not mindful God
And one man’s daring prevented that doom.
Past and present, God’s will prevails.
Hence, understanding is always
best
And a prudent mind.
Whoever remains
For long here in this earthly life
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Will enjoy and endure more than enough.
They sang then and played to please the hero,
Words and music for their warrior prince,
Harp tunes and
tales of adventure:
There were high times on the hall benches
And the king’s poet performed his part
With the saga of Finn and his sons, unfolding
The tale of the fierce attack in Friesland
Where Hnaef, king of the Danes, met death.
Hildeburh
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Had little cause
To credit the Jutes:
Son and brother,
She lost them both
On the battlefield.
She, bereft
And
blameless, they
Foredoomed, cut down
And spear
-
gored.
She,
The woman in shock,
Waylaid by grief,
Hoc’s daughter
--
How could she not
Lament her fate
When morning came
And the light broke
On her murdered dears?
And so farewell
Delight on earth,
War carried away
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Finn’s troop of thanes,
banderl Offline
#69 Posted:
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Posts: 10,153
All but a few.
How then could Finn
Hold the line
Or fight on
To the end with Hengest,
How save
The rump of his force
From that enemy chief?
So a truce was offered
As follows: first
Separate quarters
To be cleared for the Danes,
Hall and throne
To be shared with the Frisians.
Then, second ;
Every day
At the dole
-
out of gifts
Finn, son of Focwald,
Should honor the Danes,
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Bestow with an even
Hand to Hengest
And Hengest’s men
The wrought
-
gold rings,
Bounty to match
The measure he gave
His own Frisians
--
To keep morale
In the beer
-
hall high.
Both sides
then
Sealed their agreement.
With oaths to Hengest
Finn swore
Openly, solemnly,
That the battle survivors
banderl Offline
#70 Posted:
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Posts: 10,153
Would be guaranteed
Honor and status.
No infringement
By word or deed,
No provocation
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Would be permitted.
Their own ring
-
giver
After all
Was dead and gone,
They were leaderless
In forced allegiance
To his murderer.
S
o if any Frisian
Stirred up bad blood
With insinuations
Or taunts about this,
The blade of the sword
Will arbitrate it.
A funeral pyre
Was then prepared,
Effulgent gold
Brought
out from the hoard.
The pride and prince
Of the Shieldings lay
Awaiting the flame.
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Everywhere
There were blood
-
plastered
Coats of mail.
The pyre was heaped
With boar
-
shaped helmets
Forged in gold,
With the gashed corpses
Of well
-
born Danes
--
Many had fallen.
Then Hildeburh
Ordered her own
Son’s body
Be burnt with Hnaef’s,
The
flesh on his bones
To sputter and blaze
Beside his uncle’s.
The woman wailed
And sang keens,
The warrior went up.
Carcass flame
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Swirled and fumed
,
They stood round the burial
Mound and howled
As heads melted,
Crusted gashes
Spattered and ran
Bloody matter.
The glutton element
Flamed and consumed
The dead of both sides.
Their great days were gone.
Warriors scattered
To homes and forts
All over Friesland,
Fewer now, feeling
Loss of friends.
Hengest stayed,
Lived out that whole
Resentful, blood
-
sullen
Winter with Finn,
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Homesick and helpless.
No ring
-
whorled prow
Could up then
And away on the sea.
Wind and water
Raged with storms,
Wav
e and shingle
Were shackled on ice
Until another year
Appeared in the yard
As it does to this day,
The seasons constant,
The wonder of light
Coming over us.
Then winter was gone,
Earth’s lap
grew lovely,
Longing woke
In the cooped
-
up exile
For a voyage home
--
But more for vengeance,
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Some way of bringing
Things to a head:
His sword arm hankered
To greet the Jutes.
So he did not balk
Once Hunlafing
Placed on his lap
Dazle
-
the
-
Duel,
The best sword of all,
Whose edges Jutes
Knew only too well.
Thus blood was spilled,
T
he gallant Finn
Slain in his home
After Guthlaf and Oslaf
Back from their voyage
Made old accusation:
The brutal ambush,
The fate they had suffered,
All blamed on Finn.
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The wildness in them
Had to brim over.
The hall ran red
With blood of enemies.
Finn was cut down,
The queen brought away
And everything
The Shieldings could find
Inside
Finn’s walls
--
The Frisian king’s
Gold collars and gemstones
--
Swept off to the ship.
Over sea
-
lanes then
Back to Daneland
The warrior troop
Bore that lady home.
The poem was over,
The
poet had performed, a pleasant murmur
Started on the benches, stewards did the rounds
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With wine in splendid jugs, and Wilhtheow came to sit
In her gold crown between two good men,
Uncle and nephew, each of whom
Still trusted the other
; and the forthright Unferth,
Admired by all for his mind and courage
Although under a cloud for killing his brothers,
Reclined near the king.
The queen spoke:
“Enjoy this drink, my most generous lord;;
Raise up your goblet, entertain the Geats
Duly and gently, discourse with them,
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Be open
-
handed, happy and fond.
Relish their company, but recollect as well
All of the boons that have been bestowed upon you.
The bright court of Heorot
has been cleansed
And now the word is that you want to adopt
banderl Offline
#71 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Only 61 pages left.

This is a great story.
teedubbya Offline
#72 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
This type of crap used to happen all the time. Dumb then. Dumb now.
banderl Offline
#73 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Maybe, but if I don't keep posting, you guys won't know how it ends.
teedubbya Offline
#74 Posted:
Joined: 08-14-2003
Posts: 95,637
That’s ok

This is dumb
banderl Offline
#75 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
You don't like Beowolf?

Everybody likes Beowolf.
bgz Offline
#76 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
More importantly, you buried my epic math jokes.
banderl Offline
#77 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
bgz wrote:
More importantly, you buried my epic math jokes.



Victor's the only guy who would have got them.
HuckFinn Offline
#78 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
Math joke?

There are three kinds of people in the world
Those that are good at math
And those who aren't.
MACS Offline
#79 Posted:
Joined: 02-26-2004
Posts: 79,751
Talk to me in mid March when I do my taxes... if I get to keep more money, then I'll be winning.

If not... d'oh!
Buckwheat Offline
#80 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
banderl wrote:
What's irrational about pi?


Don’t be a quitter. See it out to the end. Beer
banderl Offline
#81 Posted:
Joined: 09-09-2008
Posts: 10,153
Buckwheat wrote:
Don’t be a quitter. See it out to the end. Beer



HaHa
I originally posted one to one million places, but the format was screwed up.
bgz Offline
#82 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Buckwheat wrote:
Don’t be a quitter. See it out to the end. Beer


Ya!!!

And don't come back here to you do!
Speyside Offline
#83 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
Posts: 13,106
So Bob, I like the Beowulf idea, but your audience might actually understand Green Eggs and Ham.
bgz Offline
#84 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
Speyside wrote:
So Bob, I like the Beowulf idea, but your audience might actually understand Green Eggs and Ham.


Ya, that's how I felt about my math jokes... would have been better off quoting Andrew Dice Clay.
delta1 Offline
#85 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,778
now I'm reminded why I hated 10th grade English. My teacher was a huge Beowulf fan, and it was required reading ... we discussed it ad nauseum for half the semester...same with Frost...Shakespeare got short shrift...
Kawak Offline
#86 Posted:
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And more!

Celebrities ‘Can’t Even Watch’ Trump State of the Union: ‘Lying, Incompetent, Racist, Misogynistic Sack of Sh*t’

Haha!
Kawak Offline
#87 Posted:
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Even More!

Delingpole: It’s Over. Now Even Democrats Give up on ‘Climate Change’

Climate change’ just officially ceased being an important issue in U.S. politics.
President Trump didn’t mention it in his State of the Union address. But nor, much to the disgust of environmentalists – did the Democrats in their rebuttals.


A shocked Huffington Post has named and shamed the key Democrats who could have spoken out but didn’t:

In his speech, Rep. Joe Kennedy (D-Mass.) didn’t bring up global warming, sea-level rise or the surge in global greenhouse gas emissions, which threaten to become worse as the Republican White House ramps up fossil fuel production to unprecedented levels.



Even the State of the Union statement issued by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), considered one of the most hawkish Democrats on climate issues, snubbed climate change.

It was left to Bernie Sanders (I-Vt) to keep the faith:


“How can a president of the United States give a State of the Union speech and not mention climate change?” he said in his own rebuttal. “No, Mr. Trump, climate change is not a ‘hoax.’

“It is a reality which is causing devastating harm all over our country and all over the world, and you are dead wrong when you appoint administrators at the EPA and other agencies who are trying to decimate environmental protection rules and slow down the transition to sustainable energy.”

As a reminder how quickly things have changed, here’s an extract from President Obama’s 2015 State of the Union:




2014 was the planet’s warmest year on record. Now, one year doesn’t make a trend, but this does: 14 of the 15 warmest years on record have all fallen in the first 15 years of this century.
I’ve heard some folks try to dodge the evidence by saying they’re not scientists; that we don’t have enough information to act. Well, I’m not a scientist, either. But you know what, I know a lot of really good scientists at NASA, and at NOAA, and at our major universities. And the best scientists in the world are all telling us that our activities are changing the climate, and if we don’t act forcefully, we’ll continue to see rising oceans, longer, hotter heat waves, dangerous droughts and floods, and massive disruptions that can trigger greater migration and conflict and hunger around the globe. The Pentagon says that climate change poses immediate risks to our national security. We should act like it.

And here he is, banging that the same worn-out drum in his 2016 State of the Union:


Look, if anybody still wants to dispute the science around climate change, have at it. You’ll be pretty lonely, because you’ll be debating our military, most of America’s business leaders, the majority of the American people, almost the entire scientific community, and 200 nations around the world who agree it’s a problem and intend to solve it.

Finally, here is what the 2018 State of the Union had to say on climate change under a new president.

*crickets*

#Winning!


HuckFinn Offline
#88 Posted:
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I understand Pfizer, maker of Xanax, stock is way up after pumkinhead's speech later night.
(Only one he could legitimately take credit for)
bgz Offline
#89 Posted:
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Jesus Christ, mid thread copy and pasting is the most annoying sh17 ever ... you guys suck.
Speyside Offline
#90 Posted:
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#you can'tfixstupid.

Quaker, those orange colored glasses look great on you.
Kawak Offline
#91 Posted:
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Posts: 4,025
Speyside wrote:
#you can'tfixstupid.

Quaker, those orange colored glasses look great on you.



Don't ever give up Spey, read a few books, do some research and work hard and you should be able to fix stupid!







Ahh...who am I kidding,
dstieger Offline
#92 Posted:
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Of all the places for the GOP Train to go off the rails.....I guess Charlottesville is as good as any
delta1 Offline
#93 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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I know...right? ...and they slammed into a garbage truck, killing one of the poor garbage men (RIP) ... WINNING!!!







can't make this stuff up...give a couple of the GOP Senators some credit...they're doctors and they tried heroic measures to save the man's life, actually putting their hands on him, most likely a Dem voter...
Kawak Offline
#94 Posted:
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They were union anyway so...Dem vote... WINNING!!
victor809 Offline
#95 Posted:
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Kawak wrote:
They were union anyway so...Dem vote... WINNING!!


wow... and people say I have a lack of morals.
Bravo... claiming victory at the death of people who will vote differently than yourself.... not sure I would have thought of that
HuckFinn Offline
#96 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
victor809 wrote:
wow... and people say I have a lack of morals.
Bravo... claiming victory at the death of people who will vote differently than yourself.... not sure I would have thought of that

Sounds like something straight out of the Putin playbook.
bgz Offline
#97 Posted:
Joined: 07-29-2014
Posts: 13,023
victor809 wrote:
wow... and people say I have a lack of morals.
Bravo... claiming victory at the death of people who will vote differently than yourself.... not sure I would have thought of that


You just kuck homeless people, they don't vote anyway so your morals are good.
victor809 Offline
#98 Posted:
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Posts: 23,866
bgz wrote:
You just kuck homeless people, they don't vote anyway so your morals are good.


I never said my morals were good. But you are close... they don't pay taxes so they aren't people.
delta1 Offline
#99 Posted:
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kuck? hmmmm...after having anal, you kick 'em?
bgz Offline
#100 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
kuck? hmmmm...after having anal, you kick 'em?


Lmfao, ya and he kicks them too
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