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Always got to throw per capita in the mix lol

The chicken **** Cop just stood outside and let the kids get slaughtered. Let's everyone remember this the next time the media and society tells how much we have to love and respect our "brave" police and law enforcement

Now they are reporting there were 4 of them

SE Oklahoma is number 1 in meth production..

It still does but they keep it behind the counter and you have to show an ID to by it... No prescription necessary...

I think you're right. Checked quickly. Sudafed also comes with and without pseudoephedrine.

David here. Sorry Frank, I love ya bud, but we have to disagree. Don't you think that the football coach, or any of the teachers who gave their lives trying to protect the children would not have given anything at that moment to have had the tools required to at least attempt to defend themselves and the innocent? I would rather die trying to defend myself and my loved ones, rather then standing there unarmed and helpless.

This argument I hear about highly trained police officers vs. teachers also holds no water. To many police officers, their weapon is just another tool on their belt. Many police officers fire their weapon only once a year when they are required to re-qualify. I have shot next to NJ police officers practicing for their simple qualification test, and many of them are totally incompetent when it comes to firearms. Not only is their marksmanship very poor, but Donna and I have been "muzzle sweep" by police officers with a loaded gun and finger on the trigger several times at the range. Most times we packed up and left for our own safety.

I don't buy the argument that a trained CCW holder couldn't stop a shooter with an AR, especially if the situation was "defend yourself or die". Do a Google search. There have been more then one incidence where a school employee has stopped a mass shooting by retrieving their own firearm from their vehicle and confronting the shooter. Usually without firing a shot.

I'm one of the strange ones that is almost always open minded, and I'm more open minded to those proven to be trustworthy sources, not knee jerk jerks...

so let me take this under consideration.

At least I know I don't know everything, especially about this stuff.

thanks for the love, bruddah.

A good shop teacher would have built a gun and taken care of business

Wtf does one have to do with other..??


It was a failure on many peoples but a conspiracy..?? Really..??

done deal.

Yes it sounds crazy. Just as crazy as the US guberment allowing the sale of cocaine to fund an illegal war. Ask Gary Webb.

Many forget Air America

They eliminated the need to have any training or classes for cc licenses in my state. I took some anyway because I was interested. In the state next to me you don’t need a cc license at all. It’s a god given right. In this case god is the legislature.

I haven’t seen any movements to eliminate training from the police forces yet.

I suppose it is possible a cc civilian is more knowledgeable and more prepared than the popo. But to me that would be a problem with the popo rather than the glory of the cc civi. I also don’t buy it statistically or logically. I’m sure there is an example or two as an anomaly based on being humans though.


My shooting instructor does train thelocal PD and does say they are terrible shots though. He also likes to point out the holes in the walls, shooting bays, ceilings and target holders that came from the police. He likes to poke fun at them because he was one of them and thinks they are knuckleheads. I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them and had an unfortunate incident with them where they were wrong and it took me forever to show/prove it to them. There was a point where they didn’t want the truth, just to be right and got very aggressive about it. Much like political arguments in here lol.

I’m not saying all popo are good shots that’s for sure. I’m also not saying they practice good gun safety or are good under pressure. But I’d hope there is at least a little weeding out. I’d also hope they are better than the guy next to me at the range yesterday that kept waving the muzzle of his new CZ scorpion accross all of the bays while excitedly showing it to his buddies.

I stopped shooting and told him he pointed it at me twice. He said it wasn’t loaded and not to worry about it. I told him again not to point it at me and he said but it’s not loaded. I told him to treat it like it’s loaded and he just frowned at me. Then he loaded it and shot it. When he finished (I was leaving because I didn’t want to be there and get shot, plus I’d shot 650 rounds already) he laid the scorpion at his feet pointed at the concrete half wall in front of him.

I told the range officer on my way out. He said he’d say something when the dude left. I told him I hope that’s not too late. It’s not my normal range and I won’t go back.

or Mena AK where a backwoods governor ran his state like a well oiled octopus with a hand in every pocket unseated a sitting President because he found their cookie jar!

Nope...gotta show license. Welcome to the world where we have to cater to a select few that chose to make meth with it in their trailers vs the masses that just wanted to breath without congestion.

Suspect's list? Whatever.

In this case the perimeter he should have been securing was the small circle of real estate where the shooter was standing.

Teachers aren't paid enough to put up with the bull**** the put up with. But, since teachers are also being shot, I think those with proper training would welcome the opportunity to be able to defend themselves and their students.

That's just crazy talk. Show me where the government has walked anything back!

There are two tools in Louisiana which address this.

1) CEC = Coroner's Emergency Certificate. Basically a warrant issued by the coroner directing the Sheriff to deliver the mentioned individual to a forensic facility for a mental health evaluation

2) PEC = Physician's Emergency Certificate. Pretty much the same thing, but issued by a licensed physician.

What situation is the coroner involved in? Grieving to the point of danger to self or others?

So in your opinion they love them more in the context of protecting them in a gun battle and protecting life?

I’m not talking being soft. My dad loved me more than a stranger but was a hard ass at times because he loved me.

I see you as being a guy that gives folks chances when others wouldn’t but demanding a set of rules be followed. You soft bassard.

It had a sunset..it expired.

Not really. It's more of a calling.

There was a conscious political effort to allow it to sunset. Semantics but we actually agree

Abrig you’d know more than I and I accept your answer.

I just find it hard to beleive you love kids and human lives less than teachers. A profession is a profession and I had some great teachers....and some crappy ones.

I know little about resource officers. We never had cops in my schools unless they were escorting mcgruff the crime dog for a lecture.