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Woman stabbed to death with hunting knife in public library
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cacman Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 12:18 PM EST
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WINCHESTER, Mass. — A man attacked a woman from behind at a public library near Boston on Saturday and stabbed her repeatedly with a hunting knife, killing her and injuring an elderly man who came to her aid, authorities said.

Middlesex District Attorney Marian Ryan said the 22-year-old woman was studying or doing work at a table in the Winchester Public Library’s reading room when 23-year-old Jeffrey Yao attacked her with a 10-inch knife. The woman suffered numerous slash and stab wounds to her head and upper torso, Ryan said.

Ryan said the woman staggered toward the door and several people tried to help her, including a 77-year-old man who also was stabbed. The man, who was stabbed in the arm, is expected to survive, Ryan said.

The district attorney said authorities are working to determine a possible motive and whether Yao and the woman knew each other. Ryan said Yao was “known to police,” but declined to elaborate.

Yao is charged with murder and armed assault with intent to murder and is being held without bail until he appears in court on Monday. A phone number for him could not be found and it was not immediately clear whether he had an attorney.

Ryan said the woman’s identity is being withheld pending notification of next of kin.

Russ Ganz told The Boston Globe that he was walking by around 11 a.m. when he saw a woman being taken out of the library on a stretcher. Ganz said the woman, who was upright and conscious, appeared to have injuries to her shoulder.

“I thought somebody fell down the stairs,” he told the newspaper.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/25/woman-stabbed-to-death-with-hunting-knife-in-public-library/

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That's it. Ban all tactical and assault style knives! Plastic butter knives for everyone!
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 12:58 PM EST
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the neighbors in his little neighborhood have been terrified for years, reporting multiple times to the Winchester Police...per the Boston Globe this morning.

Sometimes you do know who the crazy is, despite the philosophical argument regarding "who gets to decide"...maybe one's family? Unless it's inherited?
Gene363 Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 1:07 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
...That's it. Ban all tactical and assault style knives! Plastic butter knives for everyone!


England is heading that way, no locking blades, not carry without a purpose other than defense and runs at outlawing large kitchen knives. Soon it will be wood scrap clubs and pointy sticks. horse
DrafterX Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 2:04 PM EST
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Board with a nail in it... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 3:00 PM EST
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This place is so predictable.

Ban calls for banning!
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 3:25 PM EST
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I heard you were banned.. Mellow
delta1 Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 5:28 PM EST
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some knives are already banned...
xibbumbero Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 8:12 PM EST
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It was the librarian who did it. Mebbe she shoulda not been late in returning her book. X Frying pan
frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 8:32 PM EST
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Colonel Mustard with a knife in the library?
teedubbya Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 8:35 PM EST
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I have no clue
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 8:38 PM EST
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I once gave Miss Scarlet the lead pipe in the lounge.
teedubbya Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 8:40 PM EST
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Ok I lied. Now I have a raging clue.

Thanks tail.
Speyside Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 9:07 PM EST
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To soon Frank.
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 9:20 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
To soon Frank.

I knew it.
So, I don't live very far from that town. Nice town, small safe community, good access to Boston. Not a place that is very familiar with violent crime...

I understand that the op was not really about the girl's death, it was part of other discussions about banning or changing anything relating to guns.

I get it. But I kind of expected Carl to use it more for mental health awareness and intervention, because he does seem to be on top of that subject as well, rather than using it as irony to show the gun control crowd...so the end surprised me, but I get it.

Sad story though, Will have no legs, not sexy.
MACS Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 9:36 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
Sad story though, Will have no legs, not sexy.


No gun involved... very little news on it. Hell, even if there is a gun involved, there's very little news. How many gun death's in Chicago this weekend?

Doesn't fit the narrative...
frankj1 Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 9:38 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
No gun involved... very little news on it. Hell, even if there is a gun involved, there's very little news. How many gun death's in Chicago this weekend?

Doesn't fit the narrative...

ironic that this little MA town is named Winchester!
teedubbya Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 9:58 PM EST
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A single murder is rarely anything but local news even if a gun is used. We had a couple gun related murders this weekend. The only reason this one turned up in here is there was no gun.

frankj1 Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Feb 25 2018, 11:35 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
A single murder is rarely anything but local news even if a gun is used. We had a couple gun related murders this weekend. The only reason this one turned up in here is there was no gun.


exactly.

Where I see the need to push to restore (and add more) funding for mental illness identity and treatment, others see an opportunity to prove guns aren't the only weapons of choice for crazy murderers.

the future of post mortem discussions is irreversibly headed to partisan politics editorials rather than about ways to protect our citizens' Rights to Life...without which there is no Liberty nor Pursuit of Happiness.
cacman Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 10:28 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I get it. But I kind of expected Carl to use it more for mental health awareness and intervention, because he does seem to be on top of that subject as well, rather than using it as irony to show the gun control crowd...so the end surprised me, but I get it.

Well the media didn't dig into every detail of this guy's past. There where no reports from others warning this guy might have a problem. The FBI didn't receive any tips he might stab someone.

The story and the guy's mental health was not sensationalized to push a knife-control agenda. Simply another senseless death in another city.
danmdevries Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 10:41 AM EST
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MACS wrote:
No gun involved... very little news on it. Hell, even if there is a gun involved, there's very little news. How many gun death's in Chicago this weekend?

Doesn't fit the narrative...


Probably a lot, considering we had several in the suburbs.
dstieger Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 10:46 AM EST
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cacman wrote:

The district attorney said authorities are working to determine a possible motive and whether Yao and the woman knew each other.



New reports have revealed clues to the motive:

Yao feels isolated, confused and conflicted about his male nature. He feels that the very qualities that used to define him — strength, aggression and competitiveness — are no longer wanted or needed; maybe he never felt strong or aggressive or competitive to begin with. He doesn't know how to feel male...and he's terrified.
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#22 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 11:10 AM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U90dnUbZMmM
frankj1 Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:16 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
New reports have revealed clues to the motive:

Yao feels isolated, confused and conflicted about his male nature. He feels that the very qualities that used to define him — strength, aggression and competitiveness — are no longer wanted or needed; maybe he never felt strong or aggressive or competitive to begin with. He doesn't know how to feel male...and he's terrified.


CROSS THREAD OUTRAGE!
dstieger Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:17 PM EST
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no need for outrage...I'm a crossthreading master....mostly nuts, but bolts, too
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:19 PM EST
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cacman wrote:
Well the media didn't dig into every detail of this guy's past. There where no reports from others warning this guy might have a problem. The FBI didn't receive any tips he might stab someone.

The story and the guy's mental health was not sensationalized to push a knife-control agenda. Simply another senseless death in another city.

Ah, got it. You picked up on the story very quickly too, so little was known.
I'm local so I did hear and see stuff about the guy.
frankj1 Offline
#26 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:20 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
no need for outrage...I'm a crossthreading master....mostly nuts, but bolts, too

I hate when that happens
victor809 Offline
#27 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:42 PM EST
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Trump has made a statement about this.

He said in an interview that had he been there, he would have charged into the library unarmed and naked and used karate to disarm Yao and then killed him with his 5 finger death punch just to save taxpayers money on a trial.
DrafterX Offline
#28 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:45 PM EST
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Sounds like 'Trump alright... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#29 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 1:46 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Trump has made a statement about this.

He said in an interview that had he been there, he would have charged into the library unarmed and naked and used karate to disarm Yao and then killed him with his 5 finger death punch just to save taxpayers money on a trial.

he would have been ssshhhh'd
RMAN4443 Offline
#30 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 2:00 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Trump has made a statement about this.

He said in an interview that had he been there, he would have charged into the library unarmed and naked and used karate to disarm Yao and then killed him with his 5 finger death punch just to save taxpayers money on a trial.

Yep, Trump's a no nonsense, take no prisoners type of guy Whistle
delta1 Offline
#31 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 2:31 PM EST
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ya...if not for his dang bone spurs, he woulda slaughtered the Viet Cong and won the Vietnam War...
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 2:36 PM EST
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They're prolly better now... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 2:55 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
They're prolly better now... Mellow


I'm sure they got better in about 1975
teedubbya Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Feb 26 2018, 3:21 PM EST
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I heard someone else died somewhere proving there is no need to try to stop it
HuckFinn Offline
#35 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 8:52 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
New reports have revealed clues to the motive:

Yao feels isolated, confused and conflicted about his male nature. He feels that the very qualities that used to define him — strength, aggression and competitiveness — are no longer wanted or needed; maybe he never felt strong or aggressive or competitive to begin with. He doesn't know how to feel male...and he's terrified.


Great how you see things so clearly. (I mean dismiss things so easily)

Without bothering to do any research, you're convinced.

Well, either way, seems to have struck a nerve with you, sorry?

Cause no one else took it personally for fk sake.
Speyside Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 9:00 AM EST
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Dave has been reduced to cross thread stalking. His fall from grace is duly noted. Such a sad event, but life goes on.
dstieger Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 9:32 AM EST
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I'm so ashamed. Further souring the mood of the day, I am deeply saddened at Huck's loss of all sense of humor. The world is just a little darker today.
Speyside Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 9:47 AM EST
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He had a sense of humor?
HuckFinn Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 9:54 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I'm so ashamed. Further souring the mood of the day, I am deeply saddened at Huck's loss of all sense of humor. The world is just a little darker today.

Don't worry.
Be happy.
dstieger Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 10:25 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
He had a sense of humor?


Oh my. Even more depressing.....its said that it is better to have laughed and lost, than never to have laughed at all.

HuckFinn wrote:
Don't worry.
Be happy.


Thanks. I'll get through this
HuckFinn Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 10:35 AM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Oh my. Even more depressing.....its said that it is better to have laughed and lost, than never to have laughed at all.



Thanks. I'll get through this

We're all here for ya...
frankj1 Offline
#42 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 1:54 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Oh my. Even more depressing.....its said that it is better to have laughed and lost, than never to have laughed at all.



Thanks. I'll get through this

the actual Stan Friedburg Salada teabag tag quote was: t'is better to have loved a short man/woman than never to have loved a tall.
dstieger Offline
#43 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 2:06 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
the actual Stan Friedburg Salada teabag tag quote was: t'is better to have loved a short man/woman than never to have loved a tall.


Don't know Stan (does he sometimes go by Little Caesar?) , but, I'd guess he's the little guy in the corner who was dissing Randy Newman
teedubbya Offline
#44 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 2:16 PM EST
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little sweet?
frankj1 Offline
#45 Posted: Wed, Feb 28 2018, 5:20 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
Don't know Stan (does he sometimes go by Little Caesar?) , but, I'd guess he's the little guy in the corner who was dissing Randy Newman


ya gotta know him. humorist from the 60's and 70's, funny Salad tea commercials etc.

I spelled his name incorrectly it was Freberg. Did song parodies, Ed Sullivan show kinda guy, a voice you'd remember.
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#46 Posted: Thu, Mar 1 2018, 2:55 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
He had a sense of humor?

Dude, never, NEVER! accuse me of not having a great sense of humor!!!!

Seriously!!

Hehe
delta1 Offline
#47 Posted: Thu, Mar 1 2018, 5:47 PM EST
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your sixth one, no?
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