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Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:07 PM EST
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I'm a 60 year old, semi-retired contractor, and have abused my legs and knees over the years. I'm trying to finish my Jersey home and list it so I can get out of the state. About 8 weeks ago, I went to get out of bed after a hard day's work, and could barely walk. After a week of shooting pains down both legs, and weakness in my knees I went to the doc. He ordered X-rays. His conclusion - MILD arthritis in my knees. Hate to inform him that this is in no way MILD arthritis.

Starting seeing my chiropractor. After a few weeks, I was finally able to walk with only a constant, steady discomfort.

Finally said the heck with this and decided to see another doctor last Thursday. Muscle disease called Polymyalgia Rheumatica. Treatment is 6 months to 3 years of low dose steroids. Fun, fun. Doc said results would be instantaneous. Wow, was he correct. 70% of pain gone after first dose. All pain gone after a 2nd dose. Feeling 10 years younger and ready to get this house finished.

Saturday, I get up from the dinning room table and hear a tear/pop in my right knee. Overnight the knee swells up and I can't walk again. Last night the pain was excruciating and I could not sleep a wink. Pain killers wouldn't touch it. So, back to the doc today. Torn Meniscus (knee cartilage), torn tendon, torn calf muscle. Out of action for at least the next 8 weeks. I guess I'll never get the heck out of Jersey.

Oh, well, look on the bright side. Nothing to do but smoke cigars for the next 8 weeks, lol.

David
jespear Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:11 PM EST
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So sorry to hear that, David.
If you want some company sometime, let me know and I'll drive over and smoke a cigar with ya.
bs_kwaj Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:32 PM EST
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I get gout attacks. Intensely painful... Oh, and I'll be 64 in July. fog

But... I discovered, for me, Naproxen Sodium, generic over the counter, is a magic miracle drug!

Beer
Gene363 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:37 PM EST
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Getting old isn't for sissies. I feel your pain and a few others, but old age does beat the alternative. fog
HuckFinn Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:37 PM EST
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bs_kwaj wrote:
I get gout attacks. Intensely painful... Oh, and I'll be 64 in July. fog

But... I discovered, for me, Naproxen Sodium, generic over the counter, is a magic miracle drug!

Beer

Gout. Painful stuff. Cherry juice worked really well for me. Got it at health food store. Little club soda...water...
teedubbya Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:46 PM EST
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Her name is David?
corey sellers Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 8:47 PM EST
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Hate to hear this wish I lived near by would love to help but after years of abuse of beating the hell out of **** in the die cast industry elbow is giving me the fits yeah naproxen is what they gave me hopefully this will work but got a feeling in another 5 years I want be worth shooting but I will fight though the pain and never give up you are strong don't ever give up learned that watching my grandfather a few years at 89 he could out work most people I know but he died a few years later helluva man you don't see people like that no more


Sorry drinking rum and smoking a laranja

Lmao sorry Frank
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 9:17 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Hate to hear this wish I lived near by would love to help but after years of abuse of beating the hell out of **** in the die cast industry elbow is giving me the fits yeah naproxen is what they gave me hopefully this will work but got a feeling in another 5 years I want be worth shooting but I will fight though the pain and never give up you are strong don't ever give up learned that watching my grandfather a few years at 89 he could out work most people I know but he died a few years later helluva man you don't see people like that no more


Sorry drinking rum and smoking a laranja

Lmao sorry Frank

don't apologize to me, apologize to your third grade grammar teacher....HA!


edit: or better yet sue her/him for omitting punctuation.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:28 PM EST
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sorry to hear about the knee... prayers for a speedy recovery...

do you ever smoke candelas?

(smoking that la palina as I type... this thing smokes like a signal flare!)
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:31 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
So sorry to hear that, David.
If you want some company sometime, let me know and I'll drive over and smoke a cigar with ya.


I may take you up on that, John. If we get a nice day, we can sit out on the screened in back porch and smoke a few.
frankj1 Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:33 PM EST
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jespear wrote:
So sorry to hear that, David.
If you want some company sometime, let me know and I'll drive over and smoke a cigar with ya.

yeah, go over there, light up a couple, give me a call...I'll get David so upset he'll forget about his pains.
Would be my pleasure to provide horrific medicine.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:36 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Her name is David?


Nope, her name is Donna. I'm her hubby, David (long time C-bidder dpnewell with the Rottweiler avatar). She lets me use her account as I'm banned till 2049, lol. But you knew that already, right? I've learned my lesson. No more controversial or C-bid complaint posts, ever! I'm just glad to be able to reconnect with (and bomb) old friends.

David
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:37 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
yeah, go over there, light up a couple, give me a call...I'll get David so upset he'll forget about his pains.
Would be my pleasure to provide horrific medicine.


I just may have to send you some cigars so you can join us in spirit, lol.

David
Cathcam13 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:45 PM EST
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At least you got to your 50’s or so, hopefully before arthritis set in. I wasn’t as fortunate. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and let me tell you, it’s a B*#%. There are days that you don’t want to get out of bed, but you gotta work, so you take 600 mg of Ibuprofen, 500 mg of Acetaminophen, and top it with a strong cup of coffee. Then you move your complaining body whether it’s ready or not. I hate dealing with it, but I am stuck with it. At least I have a high pain tolerance........ Oh, and I have been fighting with this crap for 13 years......
frankj1 Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:47 PM EST
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
I just may have to send you some cigars so you can join us in spirit, lol.

David

David! My zip lock baggie is full, but I appreciate the thought.

Rest assured I am always with my friends from Joisey/Philly in spirit, all of youse guys have been more than kind to me...but just in case make sure John gives me some lead time so I can be sitting in the rocker out front with a nice smoke and speaker phone "on".

I do hope your pains are temporary.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:47 PM EST
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bs_kwaj wrote:
I get gout attacks. Intensely painful... Oh, and I'll be 64 in July. fog

But... I discovered, for me, Naproxen Sodium, generic over the counter, is a magic miracle drug!

Beer



Thanks. I'll look into that. Last summer I grabbed some CW Hemp Extract. A friend thought it would help with my food allergies. It did, but made me irritabal and jittery, so I stopped. This morning I was beside myself in pain, and decided to try the Hemp Extract again. Pain subsided in a matter of minutes. I took another dose around noon, and am walking better then in weeks. Doc perscribed Tramadol, but I'm trying to avoid it. I'm planning on another dose of Hemp Extract before bed. If I sleep through the night, I won't be touching the Tramadol.

David
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:49 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
David! My zip lock baggie is full, but I appreciate the thought.

Rest assured I am always with my friends from Joisey/Philly in spirit, all of youse guys have been more than kind to me...but just in case make sure John gives me some lead time so I can be sitting in the rocker out front with a nice smoke and speaker phone "on".

I do hope your pains are temporary.


Sure thing, Frank. We'll give you a heads up.

David
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 10:58 PM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
sorry to hear about the knee... prayers for a speedy recovery...

do you ever smoke candelas?

(smoking that la palina as I type... this thing smokes like a signal flare!)


Yes Joel, that La Palina puts out some smoke. When I smoked the first one there was so much smoke that I kept looking at it to make sure it wasn't a Nica Rustica, lol.

I've tried a few candelas, but found most to be boring, though the Fuente 8-5-8 candela and the Illusione candela where pretty good. One I really, really loved was the Asylum Orge 50. It's a barber pole candela/habano. I won 10 for under $2 each, and they where fantastic. Now I can't find them under $8.

David
ZRX1200 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 11:11 PM EST
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Not fun, heal up and get the hell outta NJ!
Speyside Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 11:13 PM EST
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Sorry to hear about your knee issues.
Ewok126 Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 11:13 PM EST
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Dang David,

Sorry to hear about the issues, Yes sir it does suck getting old. Things just start breaking doing normal everyday things like "Getting up from the dinner table"

I am now at the age of 47 and after the old fluid pump surgery and 1 stroke it just all downhill from there. So yeah I know what you mean all to damn well.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Mar 8 2018, 11:17 PM EST
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Cathcam13 wrote:
At least you got to your 50’s or so, hopefully before arthritis set in. I wasn’t as fortunate. I have Rheumatoid arthritis and let me tell you, it’s a B*#%. There are days that you don’t want to get out of bed, but you gotta work, so you take 600 mg of Ibuprofen, 500 mg of Acetaminophen, and top it with a strong cup of coffee. Then you move your complaining body whether it’s ready or not. I hate dealing with it, but I am stuck with it. At least I have a high pain tolerance........ Oh, and I have been fighting with this crap for 13 years......


I'm so sorry to hear of your pain and discomfort. It must be really hard on you. I have a friend who became pretty much crippled a few years ago. It was traced back to a bad reaction to a flu shot. He turned me on to CW Hemp Extract which has been helping him. I tried some today, and the pain subsided. I try to avoid pain meds. My chiropractor suggested deer antler velvet extract. He's been using it for 5 years, is 5 years older then me, but looks way younger and is as strong as an ox. It contains IGF-1 and IGF-2 growth factors. I've been taking it for a couple weeks, feel younger, look younger, and my gray hair is starting to turn black again. Oh, and my blood pressure used to be in the 140s/150s. I have a home monitor and check it daily. Since taking the velvet extract, my blood pressure is in the 120s. I'm going to give it a good month or so before recommending it.

David
corey sellers Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 9:05 AM EST
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Frank there is no punctuation on my flip phone
dkeage Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 10:24 AM EST
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Ewok126 wrote:
Dang David,

Sorry to hear about the issues, Yes sir it does suck getting old. Things just start breaking doing normal everyday things like "Getting up from the dinner table"

I am now at the age of 47 and after the old fluid pump surgery and 1 stroke it just all downhill from there. So yeah I know what you mean all to damn well.



I'm sorry, but you are only 47???



From some of your posts, I figgered you was older.... d'oh!
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 1:51 PM EST
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corey sellers wrote:
Frank there is no punctuation on my flip phone

Well played, sir.
Well played.
DrafterX Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 8:13 PM EST
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My pain level far exceeds my age.. I literally feel your pain and wish all well... Or at least a few good days a week... ThumpUp
delta1 Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 8:37 PM EST
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Hope you get better David...getting old does suck... it seems that the body's warranty runs out at about 50...stuff starts breaking down, lose function, doesn't heal as fast, injures easily, hurts more,etc...


That's where I was at about 8 years ago...I'll be 65 this year....knee pain kept me off my feet and interfered with my sleep...feared damaging my kidneys and liver due to the amount of OTC nsaid pain-killers I consumed daily...

Finally went to an independent (non-Kaiser) orthopedic surgeon who specialized in knee surgery. He looked at the MRI and said I needed a total knee replacement in my right knee, and that the left knee was also arthritically damaged but he didn't recommend replacing both knees at the same time.

Now I'm mostly pain free, but can't do some of the physical activities I did before: no tennis or other contact sports involving running, jumping, starting and stopping, and abrupt change of direction. But i can walk, fish and ride a bike without pain. Sleep better and not taking nsaids in huge amounts daily.
Burner02 Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 8:44 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
but he didn't recommend replacing both knees at the same time.


Can't think of a single good reason to have both knees replaced at the same time.

51 weeks was to close/soon.
DrafterX Offline
#29 Posted: Fri, Mar 9 2018, 8:51 PM EST
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I agree.. had the left replaced and I need the other replaced but it doesn't seem to bother me as much as it used to.. it will be a while before I let them cut me again... Mellow
Ewok126 Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 5:39 AM EST
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dkeage wrote:
I'm sorry, but you are only 47???



From some of your posts, I figgered you was older.... d'oh!



No need to be sorry lol. Yes sir I am only 47. Most people do think I am older. I remember the first time I asked my wife out. She flipped chit on me and asked "Why the hell would I think that she would go out with a 40plus year old man." I was 21 at the time. I had to show her my drivers license to get her to believe my age. I am just now really starting to look my actual age. Eh?
RMAN4443 Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 6:43 AM EST
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Burner02 wrote:
Can't think of a single good reason to have both knees replaced at the same time.

51 weeks was to close/soon.

When I had my first knee replaced there was a woman down the hall in her 60's who had both knees replaced at once.....she was a school teacher and had them both done in late spring so she would recuperate and be back to teaching by the fall.......I can' t imagine how she got around those first months......she must have been one tough cookie.Anxious
delta1 Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 2:37 PM EST
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jinxed myself...went for a long walk last night and felt pain in the front of my left knee (hasn't happened in a long time)...kept walking but changed my gait, to avoid pain in the left knee...

woke up this morning with severe pain and tightness in right hip, quad, hamstring and knee....can barely walk...
Ewok126 Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 3:36 PM EST
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Little tip Delta, Typically Pain is the bodies way of saying

" Stop you dumb chit, something ain't working right "

Its words not mine lol.
Burner02 Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 4:48 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
When I had my first knee replaced there was a woman down the hall in her 60's who had both knees replaced at once.....she was a school teacher and had them both done in late spring so she would recuperate and be back to teaching by the fall.......I can' t imagine how she got around those first months......she must have been one tough cookie.Anxious



What the hell was she thinking....................................Must have really loved pain if she was in a hurry to get back to the classroom.

Frying pan
delta1 Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 7:17 PM EST
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Ewok126 wrote:
Little tip Delta, Typically Pain is the bodies way of saying

" Stop you dumb chit, something ain't working right "

Its words not mine lol.



I know...I was close to home when the left knee acted up, and should have just turned around...
Ewok126 Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Mar 10 2018, 10:41 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I know...I was close to home when the left knee acted up, and should have just turned around...


I hope you didn't mess her up to bad. Maybe you got lucky and just a day or 2 of some soreness.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#37 Posted: Wed, Mar 28 2018, 4:22 PM EST
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Quick update. I was suffering severe leg pain the past few days and tons of swelling, so I went back to the Doc this morning. He drained two large vials of fluid from the knee and gave me Cortisone shots. If things don't greatly improve in the next 2 weeks, he's going to order an MRI with the possibility of knee surgery. Fun, fun.

David (dpnewell)
frankj1 Offline
#38 Posted: Wed, Mar 28 2018, 5:44 PM EST
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sincere wishes for a better prognosis than surgery, David.

Once in a while I think of your problem from a few years ago of a painful lump in your throat after smoking cigars...what ever happened with that issue?
deadeyedick Offline
#39 Posted: Wed, Mar 28 2018, 6:54 PM EST
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Quick update. I was suffering severe leg pain the past few days and tons of swelling, so I went back to the Doc this morning. He drained two large vials of fluid from the knee and gave me Cortisone shots. If things don't greatly improve in the next 2 weeks, he's going to order an MRI with the possibility of knee surgery. Fun, fun.

David (dpnewell)


Sounds like a Baker's cyst? The MRI I had on my knee showed a small one along with three torn meniscus. Had surgery for the meniscus and three shots of lube (Supartz) but now the surgeon is saying I'm bone on bone. The Cortisone shot I had only helped hide the discomfort for about a month.

I'm going to a seminar on stem cell therapy before deciding on more surgery.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#40 Posted: Wed, Mar 28 2018, 9:27 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
sincere wishes for a better prognosis than surgery, David.

Once in a while I think of your problem from a few years ago of a painful lump in your throat after smoking cigars...what ever happened with that issue?


Frank, believe it or not, that was a caffeine allergy. I always had coffee in the morning with my cigar. I had to go to herbal tea for a while, but now I'm back on decaf coffee. Some of the newer "mountain water process" decafs taste as good as the full octane stuff. I pickup single origin K-cups from a craft roaster in PA.

David (dpnewell)
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#41 Posted: Wed, Mar 28 2018, 9:31 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Sounds like a Baker's cyst? The MRI I had on my knee showed a small one along with three torn meniscus. Had surgery for the meniscus and three shots of lube (Supartz) but now the surgeon is saying I'm bone on bone. The Cortisone shot I had only helped hide the discomfort for about a month.

I'm going to a seminar on stem cell therapy before deciding on more surgery.


Sister in law has a Baker's cyst, but her symptoms sound different then mine. Oh well, at least the Doc is now talking about the possibility of an MRI. Now a days they have to try all kind of treatments first before insurance will authorize one.

David (dpnewell)
grmcooper Offline
#42 Posted: Sat, Mar 31 2018, 4:08 PM EST
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What kind of contractor are you and where do you want to move?
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 7:13 AM EST
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grmcooper wrote:
What kind of contractor are you and where do you want to move?


Sorry, missed this. I had my own awning/window/carport/patio cover business, and did all my own installations. A tremendous amount of ladder work everyday. Taught myself plumbing, tile and carpentry. Years ago a good friend of mine who is a licensed electrician taught me electrical. I have since wired several houses (and passed all inspections).

Several years ago, we bought a place in NW NC, part way up the Blue Ridge Mountains. Trying to get the Jersey house finished and sold, so we can get to NC full time.

David (dpnewell)
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 7:21 AM EST
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Update

After several weeks of increasing pain and no improvement, my doc was finally able to order an Ultrasound and MRI. Ultrasound was good. No blood clots. Not so good with the MRI. In addition to torn muscles and tendons, the MRI showed that my leg is also broken. So for the past month or so, I've been unknowingly hobbling around on a broken leg. No wonder the pain is getting worse.

Next step is to see an Orthopedic doctor. Just waiting on the referral for insurance purposes.

I ordered a hinged knee brace which came yesterday. Annoying at first, but it really seems to help with the pain.

David (dpnewell)
rfenst Offline
#45 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 7:24 AM EST
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Tibia plateau fracture?
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#46 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 8:13 AM EST
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^I don't know, Robert. Doc just said fracture, and said he had to refer me to an Orthopedic doctor.

David (dpnewell)
ZRX1200 Offline
#47 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 8:49 AM EST
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Good to hear they got an answer, hard to heal without one. Hope they don't have to do surgery, but it sounds like they may.
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 11:35 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Good to hear they got an answer, hard to heal without one. Hope they don't have to do surgery, but it sounds like they may.


Hopefully surgery will not be necessary, Jamie, but the earliest appointment for the bone and joint specialist isn't till next Tuesday. That means I've already wasted 6 weeks, and still don't have a course of treatment. Looks like the house won't be listed now till July or August. I really wanted it listed for the spring selling season.

Oh well, it is what it is. There is nothing I can do about it. I may as well try to enjoy the down time, and maybe put a dent in those coolers of mine.

David (dpnewell)
MACS Offline
#49 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 11:41 AM EST
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Yep... my issue is my feet. I've got plantar fasciitis in both, and the right one is killing me lately.

20 years of walking on steel decks aboard ship, and another 11 walking on concrete... in boots.
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#50 Posted: Tue, Apr 10 2018, 5:01 PM EST
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I'm so sorry to hear that, MACS. Is there any treatment options?

David (dpnewell)
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