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victor809 Offline
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I wonder if it comes with free taxidermy?

https://thepointsguy.com/2018/03/dog-dies-overhead-bin-united/
MACS Offline
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I would not have allowed a pet to be put in an overhead bin... but then I tend to leave pets at home when I fly.
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heard it was a ruff flight...too soon?
DrafterX Offline
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Poor puppy-dog... Sad
Gene363 Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I wonder if it comes with free taxidermy?

https://thepointsguy.com/2018/03/dog-dies-overhead-bin-united/


At the very least a walnut mounting board.
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frankj1 wrote:
heard it was a ruff flight...too soon?


Borderline blasphemy in the doggy community.
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What does any dog feel about a day without treats or Bacon? It’s a Ruff Ruff Ruff Day!
dstieger Offline
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Poor dog.

But....why did the dog die? Those bins may not get the same level of fans or AC as the cabin, but certainly not airtight -- and I'd be surprised if they get hot enough on a four hour flight to kill a dog....I've never received a bag or laptop or jacket from those bins that was particularly hot or cold.

I also blame all the fd up, entitled dog owners over the years who bought a 'Service Dog' vests on ebay just so they could bring a 'regular' dog in the cabin and avoid paying shipping costs....it was a huuuge problem....no, not a problem - theft and cheating, actually

They are the ones, who, along with owners who can't keep yappy dogs quiet in close public settings, that largely contributed to the mentality of those stewardi

I've owned lots of dogs. I love dogs. But they aren't people -- and they shouldn't be 'carry-ons'...they don't belong in the cabin of any public transport, (not to mention grocery stores, restaurants, etc.) unless TRUE service dogs.....United flight attendants aren't the real villains here -- **** pet owners are
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dstieger wrote:
Poor dog.

But....why did the dog die? Those bins may not get the same level of fans or AC as the cabin, but certainly not airtight -- and I'd be surprised if they get hot enough on a four hour flight to kill a dog....I've never received a bag or laptop or jacket from those bins that was particularly hot or cold.

I also blame all the fd up, entitled dog owners over the years who bought a 'Service Dog' vests on ebay just so they could bring a 'regular' dog in the cabin and avoid paying shipping costs....it was a huuuge problem....no, not a problem - theft and cheating, actually

They are the ones, who, along with owners who can't keep yappy dogs quiet in close public settings, that largely contributed to the mentality of those stewardi

I've owned lots of dogs. I love dogs. But they aren't people -- and they shouldn't be 'carry-ons'...they don't belong in the cabin of any public transport, (not to mention grocery stores, restaurants, etc.) unless TRUE service dogs.....United flight attendants aren't the real villains here -- **** pet owners are


Somebody hadda say it. Applause Applause Applause
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dstieger wrote:
Poor dog.

But....why did the dog die? Those bins may not get the same level of fans or AC as the cabin, but certainly not airtight -- and I'd be surprised if they get hot enough on a four hour flight to kill a dog....I've never received a bag or laptop or jacket from those bins that was particularly hot or cold.

I also blame all the fd up, entitled dog owners over the years who bought a 'Service Dog' vests on ebay just so they could bring a 'regular' dog in the cabin and avoid paying shipping costs....it was a huuuge problem....no, not a problem - theft and cheating, actually

They are the ones, who, along with owners who can't keep yappy dogs quiet in close public settings, that largely contributed to the mentality of those stewardi

I've owned lots of dogs. I love dogs. But they aren't people -- and they shouldn't be 'carry-ons'...they don't belong in the cabin of any public transport, (not to mention grocery stores, restaurants, etc.) unless TRUE service dogs.....United flight attendants aren't the real villains here -- **** pet owners are


Dave,
I'm a huge dog lover. Have owned 4 over the past 20 years (3 giant breed) and will be getting another giant breed as soon as we are settled in NC. With that said, I agree 100% on everything you've said.

David


Oh, and REAL dogs won't fit in overhead storage (yes, I know that was mean, but I said it anyway). Sarcasm
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dstieger wrote:
Poor dog.

But....why did the dog die? Those bins may not get the same level of fans or AC as the cabin, but certainly not airtight -- and I'd be surprised if they get hot enough on a four hour flight to kill a dog....I've never received a bag or laptop or jacket from those bins that was particularly hot or cold.

I also blame all the fd up, entitled dog owners over the years who bought a 'Service Dog' vests on ebay just so they could bring a 'regular' dog in the cabin and avoid paying shipping costs....it was a huuuge problem....no, not a problem - theft and cheating, actually

They are the ones, who, along with owners who can't keep yappy dogs quiet in close public settings, that largely contributed to the mentality of those stewardi

I've owned lots of dogs. I love dogs. But they aren't people -- and they shouldn't be 'carry-ons'...they don't belong in the cabin of any public transport, (not to mention grocery stores, restaurants, etc.) unless TRUE service dogs.....United flight attendants aren't the real villains here -- **** pet owners are


Gonna agree and disagree.
I totally agree that these "service dog" people are ridiculous. There should be some required training before something is defined as a "service dog" and any business should be allowed to demand the dog's license before allowing it in (currently they are not allowed to demand any papers). The service dog bs screws up everything from rental apartments to restaurants to airlines.

However, I don't see any problem with people allowing dogs in carriers as carry-on (as long as they are small enough to fit under the seat)... there are apparently a number of deaths from animals stored under the plane. I know the woman won't let her dog be put under the plane because there is a higher risk of death. (not huge, like 33/year, but enough that she wont do it). But she pays the fee, keeps the miserable beast in his carrier and keeps his carrier under the chair. That seems fair to me.
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dstieger wrote:
Poor dog.

But....why did the dog die? Those bins may not get the same level of fans or AC as the cabin, but certainly not airtight -- and I'd be surprised if they get hot enough on a four hour flight to kill a dog....I've never received a bag or laptop or jacket from those bins that was particularly hot or cold.

I also blame all the fd up, entitled dog owners over the years who bought a 'Service Dog' vests on ebay just so they could bring a 'regular' dog in the cabin and avoid paying shipping costs....it was a huuuge problem....no, not a problem - theft and cheating, actually

They are the ones, who, along with owners who can't keep yappy dogs quiet in close public settings, that largely contributed to the mentality of those stewardi

I've owned lots of dogs. I love dogs. But they aren't people -- and they shouldn't be 'carry-ons'...they don't belong in the cabin of any public transport, (not to mention grocery stores, restaurants, etc.) unless TRUE service dogs.....United flight attendants aren't the real villains here -- **** pet owners are


Preach it!
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I heard Victor frequently travels with a gerbils... Mellow
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victor809 wrote:
Gonna agree and disagree.
I totally agree that these "service dog" people are ridiculous. There should be some required training before something is defined as a "service dog" and any business should be allowed to demand the dog's license before allowing it in (currently they are not allowed to demand any papers). The service dog bs screws up everything from rental apartments to restaurants to airlines.

However, I don't see any problem with people allowing dogs in carriers as carry-on (as long as they are small enough to fit under the seat)... there are apparently a number of deaths from animals stored under the plane. I know the woman won't let her dog be put under the plane because there is a higher risk of death. (not huge, like 33/year, but enough that she wont do it). But she pays the fee, keeps the miserable beast in his carrier and keeps his carrier under the chair. That seems fair to me.


Maybe....if it is silent --- if it doesn't smell....doesn't piss or **** during the flight....and nobody within five rows is the least bit allergic to it....then maybe I won't object....If no other passenger is affected any more than if she carried a back pack on board, OK.
She doesn't have the right, IMO, to use her dog to encroach in such a way as to make the flight miserable for even one other passenger....lots of options for her that I'd prefer -- boarding, pet sitters, surface transport, and, of course as cargo - which I've done on a number of occasions with zero problems
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dstieger wrote:
Maybe....if it is silent --- if it doesn't smell....doesn't piss or **** during the flight....and nobody within five rows is the least bit allergic to it....then maybe I won't object....If no other passenger is affected any more than if she carried a back pack on board, OK.
She doesn't have the right, IMO, to use her dog to encroach in such a way as to make the flight miserable for even one other passenger....lots of options for her that I'd prefer -- boarding, pet sitters, surface transport, and, of course as cargo - which I've done on a number of occasions with zero problems


Tell it!!!
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dstieger wrote:
Maybe....if it is silent --- if it doesn't smell....doesn't piss or **** during the flight....and nobody within five rows is the least bit allergic to it....then maybe I won't object....If no other passenger is affected any more than if she carried a back pack on board, OK.
She doesn't have the right, IMO, to use her dog to encroach in such a way as to make the flight miserable for even one other passenger....lots of options for her that I'd prefer -- boarding, pet sitters, surface transport, and, of course as cargo - which I've done on a number of occasions with zero problems


That's the same nanny state libtard thinking that forced bars to stop allowing smoking because it irritated some customers....

Honestly, it's the airline's decision. If the airline wants to allow pets to be carried as carry on, great. If there is a market for "no pets in the cabin" air travel, someone will advertise and do it.

Just because you're irritated doesn't mean anyone has to do anything about it. (except infants. We are required to put any infant that so much as belches under the plane.... literally under the plane... on the ground. And children. Any child that kicks a chair should be placed on the wing).

Sarcasm
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Victor frequently travels with a gerbils... Mellow


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DrafterX wrote:
I heard Victor frequently travels with a gerbils... Mellow

would that be carry-on, or carry-in?Think No extra fee, because they will share a "seat"Anxious
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victor809 wrote:
That's the same nanny state libtard thinking that forced bars to stop allowing smoking because it irritated some customers....

Honestly, it's the airline's decision. If the airline wants to allow pets to be carried as carry on, great. If there is a market for "no pets in the cabin" air travel, someone will advertise and do it.

Just because you're irritated doesn't mean anyone has to do anything about it. (except infants. We are required to put any infant that so much as belches under the plane.... literally under the plane... on the ground. And children. Any child that kicks a chair should be placed on the wing).

Sarcasm


Parents must travel with their little undisciplined monsters, not many place will board them; there are plenty of pet boarding services out there.

Allergies may not be just an irritation, it's bad enough to sit next to most people, but if you're allergic to dogs it's that much worse.
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Gene363 wrote:
Parents must travel with their little undisciplined monsters, not many place will board them; there are plenty of pet boarding services out there.

Allergies may not be just an irritation, it's bad enough to sit next to most people, but if you're allergic to dogs it's that much worse.


That's the same argument people made when discussing banning smoking in just about every location in the USA. It's the same damn argument people are making to ban peanuts in schools...
Damn nanny state libtards like you, trying to take away our dogs, our smokes and our peanut butter.
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Gene363 wrote:
Parents must travel with their little undisciplined monsters, not many place will board them; there are plenty of pet boarding services out there.


And further.... who said anything about boarding? The only time I've traveled by air with a dog is when I've had to move. I am not sure the woman would have allowed me to "board" the dog indefinitely... you know... until we decide to move again.
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victor809 wrote:
That's the same argument people made when discussing banning smoking in just about every location in the USA. It's the same damn argument people are making to ban peanuts in schools...
Damn nanny state libtards like you, trying to take away our dogs, our smokes and our peanut butter.


Wow, the FOG conversion is progressing at record speed. fog

The airlines replaced peanuts with pretzels due to peanut allergies; I'm guessing there is a law firm currently looking for someone allergic to pretzels so we can eliminate them too. Sarcasm
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victor809 wrote:
And further.... who said anything about boarding? The only time I've traveled by air with a dog is when I've had to move. I am not sure the woman would have allowed me to "board" the dog indefinitely... you know... until we decide to move again.


If you cared about the dog you would buy a motor home and chauffeur it to your new location.
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It's 2018 - year of the gig economy....if there isn't an app to independently contract someone to pick up and drop off your mutt (since someone's driving that way anyway)....there soon will be
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Schools gene... schools... (although the airline thing pissed me off, they're the ones supplying the peanuts. so their choice)
https://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/why-peanuts-are-being-banned-at-public-schools

You can't give your litte gene a peanut butter sandwich to eat at school, because the kid 2 tables down might be allergic.

Nanny state.... libtards.... just like some of you here....
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victor809 wrote:
Schools gene... schools... (although the airline thing pissed me off, they're the ones supplying the peanuts. so their choice)
https://www.publicschoolreview.com/blog/why-peanuts-are-being-banned-at-public-schools

You can't give your litte gene a peanut butter sandwich to eat at school, because the kid 2 tables down might be allergic.

Nanny state.... libtards.... just like some of you here....


Actually I agree, they are preventing the natural selection process. If they are gonna let's survive they should at least keep the from breeding.
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Gene363 wrote:
If you cared about the dog you would buy a motor home and chauffeur it to your new location.


Why wouldn't you suggest that an individual with an allergy severe enough that they have to worry about allergens in an uncontrolled confined space transport themselves by car?

Why would the rest of us need to worry whether someone else in the plane has an allergy to the dog?
What if they have an allergy to perfume? Do women need to be restricted from wearing perfume on the plane?
What about other organic material? If you've got a straw hat and that sends someone into an allergic attack, are you going to discuss restricting anything made of straw?
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victor809 wrote:
Why wouldn't you suggest that an individual with an allergy severe enough that they have to worry about allergens in an uncontrolled confined space transport themselves by car?

Why would the rest of us need to worry whether someone else in the plane has an allergy to the dog?
What if they have an allergy to perfume? Do women need to be restricted from wearing perfume on the plane?
What about other organic material? If you've got a straw hat and that sends someone into an allergic attack, are you going to discuss restricting anything made of straw?


Because I am not one of those nutters that put animals above or equal to humans.

Good points, after I think about it, we should just require people to be run though showers then fly naked. Beer
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Gene363 wrote:
Because I am not one of those nutters that put animals above or equal to humans.

Good points, I think about it, we should just require people to be run though showers then fly naked. Beer

truly Friendly Skies

Victor, your 5 minute comedy monologue has convinced me to turn in my Lib Card.
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What I don't understand about this whole event is why didn't the dog owner get her dog out of the stowbin after takeoff.
When you hear reports that the dog barked for 2hrs, something doesn't add up.

The rules are that things that are too big and could impede people getting out of the plane in the event of an emergency must be stowed under the seat in front of you, or placed in the stowbin for taxi, takeoff, and landing.
After takeoff, she could've stood up, got the dog and its carrier out of the overhead and placed fifi on her and her daughters lap. When they got close to LGA, they could've returned the dog and carrier to the stowbin if they couldn't make room under the seat in front of themselves.

The stowbin doors aren't airtight and ventilation in the bin would be at cabin temp as the stowbin is supported by rods away from the insulation and skin, so outside air temp isn't an issue.
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Dogs don't belong in the cabin of a plane, in a restaurant, pissing on the jeans display in Bass Pro or taking a dump in the food aisle of a Walmart. I've seen all these.

Unless you are f*cking blind or are a disabled vet that has a certified trained helper DOG that is labeled as such, leave your dog at home. First time some little yap-yap bites me in a Walmart, I'm suing the **** out of them AFTER punting Foofoo into automotives.
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victor809 wrote:
Why wouldn't you suggest that an individual with an allergy severe enough that they have to worry about allergens in an uncontrolled confined space transport themselves by car?

Why would the rest of us need to worry whether someone else in the plane has an allergy to the dog?
What if they have an allergy to perfume? Do women need to be restricted from wearing perfume on the plane?
What about other organic material? If you've got a straw hat and that sends someone into an allergic attack, are you going to discuss restricting anything made of straw?




Actually, I would prefer NOT to fly with anyone that would wear a straw hat
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Airlines should make the overheads big enough to fit kids...just sayin'
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plinytheelder wrote:
What I don't understand about this whole event is why didn't the dog owner get her dog out of the stowbin after takeoff.
When you hear reports that the dog barked for 2hrs, something doesn't add up.

The rules are that things that are too big and could impede people getting out of the plane in the event of an emergency must be stowed under the seat in front of you, or placed in the stowbin for taxi, takeoff, and landing.
After takeoff, she could've stood up, got the dog and its carrier out of the overhead and placed fifi on her and her daughters lap. When they got close to LGA, they could've returned the dog and carrier to the stowbin if they couldn't make room under the seat in front of themselves.

The stowbin doors aren't airtight and ventilation in the bin would be at cabin temp as the stowbin is supported by rods away from the insulation and skin, so outside air temp isn't an issue.



fog
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Dog allergies can leave a person gasping for breath.

Dogs are awesome.
But they are not people.
Which might be WHY they're awesome.
But they don't have the same rights.

People who abuse the service dog protocol should be banned from flying.
For life.

Make the punishment severe and nobody will risk it.
It's simple math.



HuckFinn Offline
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Exactly. Until dogs can fly planes they shouldn't be on em

Kids too....
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There should be a death penalty for killing puppy-dogs on a plane.. Mellow
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If it's true that the owner never took the dog out of the overhead. Even after it was barking. They should be banned from having pets.

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If she argued with the flight attendant she woulda been dragged off da plane... Did they determine the cause of death..?? Huh
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DrafterX wrote:
If she argued with the flight attendant she woulda been dragged off da plane... Did they determine the cause of death..?? Huh

My dog is more important than any flight...

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DrafterX Offline
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Mine too... But at 80lbs she wouldn't be in the overhead.. Mellow
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I don't fly without my therapy ostrich.

DrafterX Offline
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Why would you... You can just ride him... Mellow
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My ostrich can’t fly
DrafterX Offline
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He's defective... Basically a tard ostrich.. Mellow
Speyside Offline
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When is the appropriate time to tell my dog he's adopted?
DrafterX Offline
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When he asks.. it's three barks followed by a howl...Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
He's defective... Basically a tard ostrich.. Mellow

Jade and I rule this is an ok tard usage...quick background check reveals the offended ostrich has no kin on c-bid.
So it's personal, not family.
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Good to know.. sure hope TW isn't offended tho.. Unsure
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Speyside wrote:
When is the appropriate time to tell my dog he's adopted?

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