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victor809 Offline
#51 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I think it was me who said a person couldn't troll their own post.

But you're suggesting a post that would outwardly attack a person with malice and intent.
If you don't see the attempt at humor in the picture Cacman posted above then I've given you way too much credit.


You're right... that was you. I get you and cacman mixed up a lot... your posts have so much in common....

But to be fair he whined that he was being called a troll as well.
victor809 Offline
#52 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
You're like a woman scorned.


I have no idea how to respond to that.

You're like a woman impregnated!

did that work?
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
But you're suggesting a post that would outwardly attack a person with malice and intent.



His attempts to troll me don't bother me. But if you don't think he does it with "malice and intent" you haven't been reading this forum.
Speyside Offline
#54 Posted:
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Nah, TG is more like a woman with hot flashes. And we all know Cacman was only joking because we read it on the internet. I mean it's not like he is trying to walk back what he previously said.

And I'm just being mean, because our resident conservative naysayers tell me so. Its not like I'm slamming Cacman because of what he wrote. Just realizing that what he wrote is mean spirited and poorly thought out is no reason to be truthful.

But if he was a liberal, well, that's different.
fishinguitarman Offline
#55 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I have no idea how to respond to that.

You're like a woman impregnated!

did that work?



Stereotyping...profiling...Whatever you want to call it
fishinguitarman Offline
#56 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Nah, TG is more like a woman with hot flashes. And we all know Cacman was only joking because we read it on the internet. I mean it's not like he is trying to walk back what he previously said.

And I'm just being mean, because our resident conservative naysayers tell me so. Its not like I'm slamming Cacman because of what he wrote. Just realizing that what he wrote is mean spirited and poorly thought out is no reason to be truthful.

But if he was a liberal, well, that's different.




Stereotyping...profiling...Whatever you want to call it
Speyside Offline
#57 Posted:
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I'd call it not making any sense.
tailgater Offline
#58 Posted:
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He Victor, when did Speyside become your boy wonder sidekick and defender?

It's cute.


tailgater Offline
#59 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
You're right... that was you. I get you and cacman mixed up a lot... your posts have so much in common....

But to be fair he whined that he was being called a troll as well.


I'm moving into the mountains.

No.
Not what you think.


I just watched Deliverance...



tailgater Offline
#60 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
His attempts to troll me don't bother me. But if you don't think he does it with "malice and intent" you haven't been reading this forum.


Actually, I see the friction.
But if you think THIS picture post is based on malice then you're my new candidate for Snowflake of the Year.

victor809 Offline
#61 Posted:
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Intent and effect are two separate things.

Your implication that I would be bothered (snowflake of the year) if he did it with malice is simply wrong. I believe cacman posted this with malice. Why would it bother me that he posted it in malice. It just means I get to call him a troll more.
I've never been bothered if someone is angry and afraid enough to try to act against me in malice. I'm only bothered if they are competent enough to be effective. Cacman is an incompetent individual.
victor809 Offline
#62 Posted:
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That being said...
I'm still bothered by his attempt to whitewash (pun intended) his racist statement that he moved to 5000 ft to avoid black people by calling it a "joke".

HuckFinn Offline
#63 Posted:
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I'm pretty sure black people wouldn't think his avatar is all that funny either...
tailgater Offline
#64 Posted:
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Why does Huck think black people have no sense of humor?

tailgater Offline
#65 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Intent and effect are two separate things.

Your implication that I would be bothered (snowflake of the year) if he did it with malice is simply wrong. I believe cacman posted this with malice. Why would it bother me that he posted it in malice. It just means I get to call him a troll more.
I've never been bothered if someone is angry and afraid enough to try to act against me in malice. I'm only bothered if they are competent enough to be effective. Cacman is an incompetent individual.


I'm not implying that you'd be bothered if Cac posted it with malice.

I'm telling you that you are a sensitive snowflake IF you think it was posted with malice. Or if you see malice in the post.


I hate that this discussion has grown legs here, because I don't find the picture particularly funny.
But to make the leap to "malice"?
Simply because you two are feuding like a married couple?

Like I said before, a lame joke like this could be used as an olive branch.
Assuming the recipient is mature enough.

Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe he did mean for this picture post to be the ultimate F-you.
To show the world how superior he is. To throw down the greatest insult CBid has ever witnessed...

Is that the argument you want to stick with?






RMAN4443 Offline
#66 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I'm pretty sure black people wouldn't think his avatar is all that funny either...

I actually own a Lawn Jockey exactly like that.....not because I'm racist, but because it came from my granddad's shed after he died.......it is an antique, cast iron, and valued at about $1000-$1500......not that I would sell it......I remember when we were kids, my little brother was about 4, every time we went to my grandparents house my brother would run up and give the statue a big hug and kiss, like they were long lost pals.......how could I ever sell off those memories Not talking
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HuckFinn Offline
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"Let us be honest, some people find lawn jockeys nostalgic, reminiscent of the "good old days" of Jim Crow segregation. The black-faced servant with the stooped back is a reminder of the decades when Blacks occupied the bottom rung on America's racial hierarchy -- a time when Blacks "knew their place." After World War II, White residents of new housing developments, "perhaps to give themselves more of a sense of being a member of the privileged master class, began placing 'Jocko' on their lawns in great numbers," wrote Kenneth W. Goings in his book Mammy and Uncle Mose. 5 I can tell you that more than a half-century later lawn jockeys are still seen by African Americans as markers of "White space," objects that send this message to Blacks: "You are not welcome here."

From
https://ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2008/july.htm

victor809 Offline
#68 Posted:
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Hang on... is cacman racist because he has an avatar that says "blacks are not welcome here" or because he says he "moved to 5,000 feet because sickle cell is a bitch"?

....or is this not an either/or question?
RMAN4443 Offline
#69 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
"Let us be honest, some people find lawn jockeys nostalgic, reminiscent of the "good old days" of Jim Crow segregation. The black-faced servant with the stooped back is a reminder of the decades when Blacks occupied the bottom rung on America's racial hierarchy -- a time when Blacks "knew their place." After World War II, White residents of new housing developments, "perhaps to give themselves more of a sense of being a member of the privileged master class, began placing 'Jocko' on their lawns in great numbers," wrote Kenneth W. Goings in his book Mammy and Uncle Mose. 5 I can tell you that more than a half-century later lawn jockeys are still seen by African Americans as markers of "White space," objects that send this message to Blacks: "You are not welcome here."

From
https://ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2008/july.htm


Damn, I knew there was a reason I kept it.......I've been fooling myself all these years thinking it reminded me of my grandparents.......and that it was worth quite a bit of the green stuff.....I'm SO ASHAMED, it's going to the dump Saturday, unless any of you racists here want it.....I can't keep it now that I've been enlightenedNot talking Liar

How do the African Americans feel about Huck Finn's ni**er Jim?


A lawn jockey is a small statue of a man in jockey clothes, intended to be placed in front yards as hitching posts, similarly to those of footmen bearing lanterns near entrances and gnomes in gardens.
The lawn ornament, popular in certain parts of the United States in years past,[when?] was a cast replica, usually about half-scale or smaller, usually of a man dressed in jockey's clothing and holding up one hand as though taking the reins of a horse. The hand sometimes carries a metal ring (suitable for hitching a horse in the case of solid concrete or iron versions) and in some cases a lantern, which may or may not be operational.
Originally a welcoming symbol to guests and providing to those on horseback with a practical and novel hitching post, later statues eventually became only decorative and not well suited for hitching a horse, often favored by those wishing to evoke an Old South or equestrian ambiance. During the Underground Railroad years in the 19th century they were sometimes used to secretly signal either safety or danger to runaway slaves.

Underground Railroad communication tool
Charles L. Blockson, Curator Emeritus of the Afro-American Collection at Temple University in Philadelphia and author of Hippocrene Guide to the Underground Railroad, claims that the figures were used in the days of the Underground Railroad to guide escaping slaves to freedom: "Green ribbons were tied to the arms of the statue to indicate safety; red ribbons meant to keep going ... People who don’t know the history of the jockey have feelings of humiliation and anger when they see the statue ..
Speyside Offline
#70 Posted:
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Nah Tail, Cacman and a few others here are so incompetent that I can't help but laugh and point out the obvious. But I am glad that you try to keep me pointed in the right direction however ineffective that may be.
bgz Offline
#71 Posted:
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Been slacking on the boards....

Cacman's so ez he basically trolls himself :D

So I'll go back on hiatus... you guys got this!
HuckFinn Offline
#72 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Damn, I knew there was a reason I kept it.......I've been fooling myself all these years thinking it reminded me of my grandparents.......and that it was worth quite a bit of the green stuff.....I'm SO ASHAMED, it's going to the dump Saturday, unless any of you racists here want it.....I can't keep it now that I've been enlightenedNot talking Liar

How do the African Americans feel about Huck Finn's ni**er Jim?


A lawn jockey is a small statue of a man in jockey clothes, intended to be placed in front yards as hitching posts, similarly to those of footmen bearing lanterns near entrances and gnomes in gardens.
The lawn ornament, popular in certain parts of the United States in years past,[when?] was a cast replica, usually about half-scale or smaller, usually of a man dressed in jockey's clothing and holding up one hand as though taking the reins of a horse. The hand sometimes carries a metal ring (suitable for hitching a horse in the case of solid concrete or iron versions) and in some cases a lantern, which may or may not be operational.
Originally a welcoming symbol to guests and providing to those on horseback with a practical and novel hitching post, later statues eventually became only decorative and not well suited for hitching a horse, often favored by those wishing to evoke an Old South or equestrian ambiance. During the Underground Railroad years in the 19th century they were sometimes used to secretly signal either safety or danger to runaway slaves.

Underground Railroad communication tool
Charles L. Blockson, Curator Emeritus of the Afro-American Collection at Temple University in Philadelphia and author of Hippocrene Guide to the Underground Railroad, claims that the figures were used in the days of the Underground Railroad to guide escaping slaves to freedom: "Green ribbons were tied to the arms of the statue to indicate safety; red ribbons meant to keep going ... People who don’t know the history of the jockey have feelings of humiliation and anger when they see the statue ..

Dude! I wasn't looking to upset you! Damn!

The link I posted was by a black man showing what he'd found. You might want to read it. There's a lot of myth regarding these statues....

Here's the link again;
https://ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2008/july.htm

Bottom line, according to this guy anyway, is that black people are pretty offended by them.

No kidding, sorry if I upset you.
I understand it's a hand-me-down, nostalgic thing for you...
HuckFinn Offline
#73 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Hang on... is cacman racist because he has an avatar that says "blacks are not welcome here" or because he says he "moved to 5,000 feet because sickle cell is a bitch"?

....or is this not an either/or question?

I dunno, way I see it, everyone's bigoted or racist to one extent or another....
bgz Offline
#74 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I dunno, way I see it, everyone's bigoted or racist to one extent or another....


Last time I made this same statement on these boards, tail got all butt hurt about me calling him a racist.
HuckFinn Offline
#75 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Last time I made this same statement on these boards, tail got all butt hurt about me calling him a racist.

Maybe the chafing has healed?
tailgater Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Nah Tail, Cacman and a few others here are so incompetent that I can't help but laugh and point out the obvious. But I am glad that you try to keep me pointed in the right direction however ineffective that may be.



I wasn't pointing in any direction.
I was commenting on your newly found purpose.

I like the old spey.
The one who didn't get a nose bleed every time victor stopped short.

Heck. Who am I kidding?
I like BOTH speysides.

Differing opinions don't bother me like it does the huckster.

I'd say that I call a spade a spade, but I don't live in a high enough elevation.

Or something like that.


tailgater Offline
#77 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Last time I made this same statement on these boards, tail got all butt hurt about me calling him a racist.


I do get butt hurt when stupid people make idiotic and bogus assumptions about other people.

Could you be more specific?


tailgater Offline
#78 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Dude! I wasn't looking to upset you! Damn!

The link I posted was by a black man showing what he'd found. You might want to read it. There's a lot of myth regarding these statues....

Here's the link again;
https://ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2008/july.htm

Bottom line, according to this guy anyway, is that black people are pretty offended by them.

No kidding, sorry if I upset you.
I understand it's a hand-me-down, nostalgic thing for you...


No.
You don't understand at all.

You made an assumption on the purpose of the jockey based on what YOU believe.
And you did so even after Rick explained the history.


tailgater Offline
#79 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I dunno, way I see it, everyone's bigoted or racist to one extent or another....


Better to blame the masses than to take responsibility.








HuckFinn Offline
#80 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
No.
You don't understand at all.

You made an assumption on the purpose of the jockey based on what YOU believe.
And you did so even after Rick explained the history.



I'd read more about these black-faced statues than either you or Rick did.

You didn't open the link I posted. Did you...?

TG, think, do you really believe black people would be okay with these ornaments or is it really that you don't think they SHOULD object?
HuckFinn Offline
#81 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Better to blame the masses than to take responsibility.









Huh?
What part of 'everyone' do you not understand?
cacman Offline
#82 Posted:
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LMFAO!
bgz Offline
#83 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I do get butt hurt when stupid people make idiotic and bogus assumptions about other people.

Could you be more specific?




Actually the statement was quite general (very similar and the same point as hucks that I quoted above)...

But ya... it was not specific at all, and that's what made it funny.

Edit:

And the idea is not idiotic nor is it bogus... it's backed up by science.

People discriminate against those they perceive as different by default.
fishinguitarman Offline
#84 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
He Victor, when did Speyside become your boy wonder sidekick and defender?

It's cute.





They are on the same Rugby team!fog
RMAN4443 Offline
#85 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Dude! I wasn't looking to upset you! Damn!

The link I posted was by a black man showing what he'd found. You might want to read it. There's a lot of myth regarding these statues....

Here's the link again;
https://ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2008/july.htm

Bottom line, according to this guy anyway, is that black people are pretty offended by them.

No kidding, sorry if I upset you.
I understand it's a hand-me-down, nostalgic thing for you...

Ok, you seem to be, I believe the term you've used, is "cherry picking" the questions you answered.
You never answered the one about how African Americans feel about the novel you get your handle from.....so how do the African Americans that are offended by lawn jockeys feel about N*gger Jim?

1)The Pennsylvania State Conference of the NAACP has instructed its branches to file grievances with the state's human rights commission demanding that local school boards and district superintendents remove Mark Twain's "Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" from mandatory reading lists.
The charge, supported by the national NAACP, is that "tax dollars should not be used to perpetuate a stereotype that has psychologically damaging effects on the self-esteem of African American children."

2) Over the years the novel has been declared "unfit for children" on a number of counts, but the indictment that has proven most persistent began in 1957, when the NAACP charged that Huck Finn contained "racial slurs" and "belittling racial designations." Since then, the book has been called "racist" for both the pervasive use of the word "****" and a portrayal of blacks that some people consider stereotypical and demeaning. It has been removed from reading lists in schools ranging from Texas to Pennsylvania (including, ironically, the Mark Twain Intermediate School in Fairfax, Virginia). Public libraries also continue to deal with requests that the book be removed, although the focus of the controversy has shifted to the classroom.

3)The local NAACP chapter published a statement, praising the decision to ban the books due to their “hurtful” nature.
Some people think the novels are educational literature for students, [chapter president Stephan Witherspoon] said, but the novels are “just hurtful” and use “hurtful language that has oppressed the people for over 200 years.” The district’s use of the books as required reading has been an ongoing discussion between elders in the local NAACP and district leaders for years, [he] said.
“It’s wrong. There are a lot more authors out there with better literature that can do the same thing that does not degrade our people. I’m glad that they’re making the decision and it’s long overdue, like 20 years overdue,” Witherspoon said. “Let’s move forward and work together to make school work for all of our kids, not just some, all of them.”

That's what I found about how the NAACP feels about it.....

I did go to your link, and the whole piece is that persons opinion and conjecture that African Americans are offended....he mentions the underground railroad story and dismisses it as "in his opinion", not backed by facts, but conjecture.....he also states, Thus, there is no consensus on the jockey's origin, but I do believe that there is a consensus view in African American communities that black lawn jockeys are demeaning relics of a racist past.
he also dismisses out of hand this statement in his commentary.... Despite this, the creation and acceptance of Jocko stories are ways for African Americans to say, "We were always brave, always worthy of inclusion, even admiration......again, It seems you are "cherry picking" your own points of reference
It also appears the author of your link is also "cherry picking" what he chooses to believe and disbelieve to further his position, and dismisses out of hand the items that do not further his agenda.....

Oh and for the record, I've read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn a couple of times over the years and loved it.
Speyside Offline
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I think I may have to burn my liberal card.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I think this tops someone being but hurt about statuary.

Since when did something become racist because a liberal or a person of color says it is?

Pretty obvious for Rick there is nothing racist about Jocko. Pretty obvious Jocko is just a piece of metal statuary. Pretty obvious the constitution protects Ricks right to own and display Jocko.

I question the validity and integrity of any point of view that is in direct opposition to the constitution.

Yeah, I think I have to burn my liberal card.
frankj1 Offline
#87 Posted:
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is this the new Pic Post 500?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#88 Posted:
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RMAN4443 wrote:

I did go to your link, and the whole piece is that persons opinion and conjecture that African Americans are offended....he mentions the underground railroad story and dismisses it as "in his opinion", not backed by facts, but conjecture.....he also states, Thus, there is no consensus on the jockey's origin, but I do believe that there is a consensus view in African American communities that black lawn jockeys are demeaning relics of a racist past.
he also dismisses out of hand this statement in his commentary.... Despite this, the creation and acceptance of Jocko stories are ways for African Americans to say, "We were always brave, always worthy of inclusion, even admiration......again, It seems you are "cherry picking" your own points of reference
It also appears the author of your link is also "cherry picking" what he chooses to believe and disbelieve to further his position, and dismisses out of hand the items that do not further his agenda.....

Oh and for the record, I've read The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn a couple of times over the years and loved it.



The book is a classic and for anyone to NOT comprehend what the lawn jockeys were about needs to be educated. For any African American to be enraged by the safe passage of the Underground Railroad means they liked being captured and tossed back on the plantation.
tailgater Offline
#89 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I'd read more about these black-faced statues than either you or Rick did.

You didn't open the link I posted. Did you...?

TG, think, do you really believe black people would be okay with these ornaments or is it really that you don't think they SHOULD object?


This is a great post.
Honest.
Because it showcases the difference in our thought patterns.

First, Good on you for reading about lawn jockeys. I admit I haven't. Not even the link you provided.

But at the end of the day there's this: I don't care.
It's an inanimate object.
If I thought one was appropriate for my lawn, I'd use it. I wouldn't ask my white neighbors. I wouldn't ask my black neighbor.
It wouldn't be for them.
I wouldn't care what they thought about it.

Unless they told me. And then we could discuss it. Like reasonable adults.

You prefer to make assumptions and label people.
Because you read a story.
About lawn jockeys.

Sorry.
It really doesn't sound any better no matter how many times I say it.

tailgater Offline
#90 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Huh?
What part of 'everyone' do you not understand?


I could ask you the same thing.

You claim "everyone" is racist.

I say you're wrong.
But obviously YOU harbor racist tendencies. No surprise there, I've read about them on these boards.
But instead of owning up and taking responsibility for your own inadequacies, you shrug it off and think it's OK because heck, everyone does it.

It's a weak argument. Save it for yourself.




tailgater Offline
#91 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Actually the statement was quite general (very similar and the same point as hucks that I quoted above)...

But ya... it was not specific at all, and that's what made it funny.

Edit:

And the idea is not idiotic nor is it bogus... it's backed up by science.

People discriminate against those they perceive as different by default.


So why do we hate racists if everyone is racist?

You're confusing discrimination with perceptions.
If you see guys walking down a dark road in your direction, you'd feel better if they were wearing suits rather than baggy pants. It's not about race. Their color matters not. It's cultural and socioeconomic.
We can split hairs and talk about which races are more likely to wear suits or do-rags, but that's counter productive and a completely different subject.

It's been proven that kids don't care what color people are. Until they learn to care about it.
And the biggest reason Americans see differences is economic.
The have's and the have not's.

Nobody would begrudge Michael Jordan from knocking at your door at 2am to ask to use the phone.
It's NOT color.
Because at 2am if the dude knocking looks poor and is white, you're more likely to call the cops than answer the door.

Stop making it about race. And stop telling me what I feel.
Because you're wrong on both counts.

tailgater Offline
#92 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:


Pretty obvious for Rick there is nothing racist about Jocko. Pretty obvious Jocko is just a piece of metal statuary.

.


Then why did he paint the face black after his grandpappy gifted it to him?


victor809 Offline
#93 Posted:
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So.... I haven't bothered reading about lawn jockeys. Nor have I bothered reading most of these posts...

But It's no coincidence that the one person on this forum with a lawn jockey avatar is also the one person on this forum who claimed to move to elevation to stay away from black people.

It's like claiming the confederate flag is only about southern culture when the guy hanging it from his pickup truck is also the guy burning crosses in black peoples yards.

This isn't some symbol with no connection to racism.... something is making cacman want to use it.
Speyside Offline
#94 Posted:
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Freedom of expression, a constitutional right.
victor809 Offline
#95 Posted:
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Yes. You have the constitutional right to express racist ideas. Doesn't protect you from criticism for being racist however.
DrafterX Offline
#96 Posted:
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And the Robert E. Lee statue..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
#97 Posted:
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You can put up as many as you want on your property... that's never been in question.
HuckFinn Offline
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tailgater wrote:
I could ask you the same thing.

You claim "everyone" is racist.

I say you're wrong.
But obviously YOU harbor racist tendencies. No surprise there, I've read about them on these boards.
But instead of owning up and taking responsibility for your own inadequacies, you shrug it off and think it's OK because heck, everyone does it.

It's a weak argument. Save it for yourself.





Wow! I want to tell you to GFY, but I like you.

You just described me as a, shrugging, irresponsible, inadequate racist!

It's like you could see me!

Ok, so, any beliefs I have have evolved in me in my 67 years and I could be wrong here, I mean who can really see themselves clearly, i didn't really choose.
I read. Observed. Tried to remain open-minded, researched. Like most people I guess?
But I even watch Fox!

Not out of vanity, but because I want what i can justifiably/verifiably call the truth. Not to parade it around but for reasons unknown to me.
Is it not true that we are all more comfortable around people that share our religion, skin color or ethnicity? To some extent?
Now is where you ponce. Pick away.

It's nature at work. That's why we are all on this continuum of comfortable-racist.
Watch much nature tv?

Yes. Most people harbor prejudices and biases against people of different ethnicities etc
TO ONE EXTENT OR ANOTHER...



Maybe you're above the fray. Or disingenuous? Even with yourself....

Or maybe, maybe, you're special!
Hold on, Michael Jordan is at the door!!

Know what? GFY....Hadda get that in...you understand...




HuckFinn Offline
#99 Posted:
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Even if we agree that you are totally without prejudice, wouldn't displaying a Nazi flag on your lawn, or any symbol that offends some group in a big way be insensitive? Your front lawn. Not the one you're thinking about in the back....
Oh wait, you said you wouldn't care. Missed that.
Or should the snowflakes just suck it up?
RMAN4443 Offline
#100 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
I did not repaint Jocko.....that would ruin the antique value
I do not display it on my lawn.........it is in my garage, but out in the open
I do not feel that I am racist.........my grandfather, on the other hand, was the original model for Archie Bunker

HuckFinn wrote:
Even if we agree that you are totally without prejudice, wouldn't displaying a Nazi flag on your lawn, or any symbol that offends some group in a big way be insensitive? Your front lawn. Not the one you're thinking about in the back....

Or should the snowflakes just suck it up?


So your saying I'm being insensitive if I display a Trump 2020 sign in my yard or a Trump bumper sticker on my truck?

and Huck, you still haven't answered......how do the African Americans that are so offended by Jocko, feel about the 219 times the word n*gger is used in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn?
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