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Pensioner, 78, arrested on suspicion of murder after suspected burglar dies in tussle
cacman Offline
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A pensioner has been arrested after a suspected burglar was killed during a violent tussle at his home.

The 78-year-old was held on suspicion of murder after the 38-year-old died of his wounds in hospital in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Police said the struggle broke out after the pensioner had found two men inside his home in South Park, Hither Green, south London shortly after midnight.

One suspect, armed with a screwdriver, forced the home-owner into his kitchen when he discovered them, while his accomplice went upstairs.

Detectives believe a struggle ensued between "one of the males and the home-owner" and the 38-year-old intruder was stabbed in the upper body.

He was later found collapsed in nearby Further Green Road by paramedics from London Ambulance Service, who took him to a central London hospital where he died at 3.37am. Police were unable to confirm whether the suspect had been stabbed with the screwdriver.

In a statement Scotland Yard said: “At 00:45hrs on Wednesday, 4 April, police were called by a home owner to reports of a burglary in progress at an address in South Park Crescent, Hither Green SE6, and a man injured.

“The 78-year-old resident found two males inside the address. A struggle ensued between one of the males and the home owner. The man, aged 37, sustained a stab wound to the upper body.”

The home owner suffered bruising to his arms and his injuries are not life threatening.

Police arrested him on suspicion of grievous bodily harm before then arresting him on suspicion of murder.

He was taken to a south London police station where he remains at this time.

The second suspect in the burglary fled the scene prior to police arrival and and is now being hunted by the Met’s Homicide and Major Crime Command.

A resident living in the street where the incident took place said: "I moved here because I thought it was a safe, nice, pleasant area but this is shocking."

A neighbor who has lived in the area for 10 years added: "We've heard of break ins over the years, but nothing like this."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/04/suspected-burglar-dies-tussle-pensioner-78/

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Good thing firearms are heavily restricted in England, and one has the right to protect his own home.
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jjanecka Offline
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This is what's coming for our country if we don't get hold of things.
danmdevries Offline
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How is this an ok thing for anyone involved? Spose the parents of dindu nuffin would be ok with it but **** that's stupid.
DrafterX Offline
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If he had used a hammer it woulda been much faster... Mellow
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
If he had used a hammer it woulda been much faster... Mellow


If he had moved to higher altitude, like 6000 ft, this might never have occurred.
DrafterX Offline
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Can you get to 6,000 ft in England..?? Huh
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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Irrelevant, if he had lived at 6000 feet, this wouldn't have happened.
Ewok126 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Can you get to 6,000 ft in England..?? Huh


No but you can get to 1344 metres at Ben Nevis in Scotland.... Anxious
cacman Offline
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
If he had moved to higher altitude, like 6000 ft, this might never have occurred.

WTF does altitude have to do with a man in England defending his home and then being charged with murder???

As shame you're becoming as big of an azz as others. Especially when you where one of the first people to welcome me here.

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest_points_in_the_United_Kingdom

Carry on. But as others have said, don't be surprised when these type of laws hit the US.

frankj1 Offline
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maybe he couldn't balance his checkbook?
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#11 Posted:
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Calm down cacman. TG just bust'n balls.


With that said, this isn't the first time I've read about things like this happening in the UK. I remember a few years back a home owner was charged with murder when he shot a knife welding intruder with his single shot shotgun. From the research I have done, it is technically legal to defend yourself in the UK, but you will usually be charged, and have to prove self-defense in court. I do agree that this is where we are headed, IF we allow it. I've actually conversed with progs (not the ones on this board) who have stated that they would rather die, then use a gun to defend themselves against an attacker. As if in their twisted minds, allowing an attacker to kill you is somehow morally superior to defending oneself. Personally, I'm of the mindset (as many reform scholars, preachers, etc. have taught), that failing to defend the gift of life given to you by God, is showing disdain for that gift, and akin to spiting in the face of God. Just my personal belief, and I have no desire to force said belief on anyone else. Just don't take that right away from me.

A side note. In an often overlooked and ignored passage (Luke 22:36), Jesus was sending his disciples out to preach. He said to them “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one." (ESV). In other words, it is better to be exposed to the elements then to be defenseless.

David (dpnewell)
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