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Mental Illness
victor809 Offline
#101 Posted:
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...im A fan of staying on topic. Crazy like tgat.

But I understand... you've got a hundred different arguments going on with different people... hard to keep them all straight. :)
HuckFinn Offline
#102 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
victor809 wrote:
...im A fan of staying on topic. Crazy like tgat.

But I understand... you've got a hundred different arguments going on with different people... hard to keep them all straight. :)

Drafter is having a target with my avatar on it made up.
DrafterX Offline
#103 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,535
Can't see it on da mobile app thing... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#104 Posted:
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Drafter, I'm thinking about running for office at cbid.
Any advice?
RMAN4443 Offline
#105 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
HuckFinn wrote:
Well if you're gonna stay on subject, fine, be like that.

I remembered so-called natural rights being the springboard for much of what are now called legal rights.

Like "eatin' ain't cheatin'" or the "need a penny, take one Have a penny, leave one" jar?
DrafterX Offline
#106 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,535
You don't need a penny just to hang around,
But if you've got a nickel,
won't you lay your money down?

Laugh
HuckFinn Offline
#107 Posted:
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Think I'm having a 'the monkeys have taken over the zoo' moment
DrafterX Offline
#108 Posted:
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Posts: 98,535
HuckFinn wrote:
Drafter, I'm thinking about running for office at cbid.
Any advice?



Office..?? Are we doing 'the Fat Bastid' contest again.. Huh
HuckFinn Offline
#109 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
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DrafterX wrote:
Office..?? Are we doing 'the Fat Bastid' contest again.. Huh

That better not be an insult dude!

*where's my freaking chips?
DrafterX Offline
#110 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,535
Nope.. a legit contest we did a few years or so ago... it's the only office I could think of around here... Cept for Ram's... And I'm not sure what that is... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#111 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,215
I may have run for President here recently...
DrafterX Offline
#112 Posted:
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Posts: 98,535
Did you win..?? I woulda voted for you if I knew... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#113 Posted:
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Posts: 44,215
me or Z...wouldn't have been life changing either way.
DrafterX Offline
#114 Posted:
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Posts: 98,535
You woulda needed security and stuff... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#115 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,215
I always know you're there for me.
Speyside Offline
#116 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
Posts: 13,106
Huck, so what was Locke like?
HuckFinn Offline
#117 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
Speyside wrote:
Huck, so what was Locke like?

So I've another adversary eh?

This place is phucking bonkers.
DrafterX Offline
#118 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,535
That's why we keep coming back.. Laugh
Bad Mr Frosty Offline
#119 Posted:
Joined: 03-11-2011
Posts: 111
dstieger wrote:
After nearly any 'mass shooting', we hear a lot about keeping guns from mentally ill....or 'controlling mentally ill'...or something about guns not being a problem, but the mentally challenged are a big part of the problem. It is often tossed out as a retort to calls for gun control of any sort.

And, it makes sense...to a point. Why would anyone want people with mind problems running around with guns?

But any attempt to get my head around "OK...so....do what, exactly?" is met with near immediate migraines. I mean, do we want every shrink to toss names into some national 'NO-GUN' database? What about non-treated nuts? Parents? Neighbors? Should the cop that found you nearly passed out on the boulevard one night ten years ago be able to ban you from guns? For how long? Life? Who here hasn't displayed what someone might considered mentally-challenged-type-behavior at some point? Sure, there's plenty out there that 99% of people would say "Yep! That's a whacko who shouldn't be allowed within 100 yards of a .22." But, sure have a hard time the the entire rest of the spectrum....I don't see how you get to a place that even a large majority might agree to definitions and processes



There are other issues. I am an avid firearm collector, but even I recognize how laughable our NICS background check system is. I am close friends with a guy who was dishonorably discharged from the army after being put on psychiatric hold. I also know that he simply walked into a pawn shop and bought a .357 mag just by lying on the paperwork. We walked out in like 20 minutes. Easy as that. Of course, his psychological problems were bull**** he staged to get out of being deployed, but that wasn't what his record shows. Made no difference.

On the other hand, I got detained for about half an hour because one of my NICS checks because some dip**** in another state had my exact same name, and a criminal record. Nevermind that I gave my them SS#, I was still flagged and had to go through an extra layer of nonsense. Smh.
HuckFinn Offline
#120 Posted:
Joined: 07-10-2017
Posts: 2,044
Reading around about Natural Law found this. Thought it was a pretty interesting article.

https://theroadtoconcord.com/2015/01/09/principles-of-natural-law-free-speech-has-limits/
delta1 Offline
#121 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,778
Interesting comparison...doesn't quite support the correlation between countries with the highest rate of mental illness to those with the highest number of gun deaths. The "winners' of those nations with higher rates of gun deaths are those in Central America, the Caribbean and Africa, none of which crack the top ten in mental illness problems. Drugs and gang crime are considered the primary cause of gun-related deaths in those nations. So mental illness does not equate to gun violence in most of the world...

But the US does lead the countries in the top ten of those with the most mental health issues with the most gun deaths.



https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2016-09-14/the-10-most-depressed-countries

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/10/06/555861898/gun-violence-how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries
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