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tailgater Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 7:06 PM EST
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What's the big deal?

Why are liberals everywhere wetting their collective panties?

A conservative TV host is either friends or a client of a lawyer. Who happens to be the personal lawyer for the sitting POTUS.

The swamp is a relatively small community. There have been endless overlapping affiliations over the years.
Why the conniption over a lawyer? Who is bound by legal privilege?
And a TV host? Who is nothing more than a celebrity?

Seems no matter what happens, when the story is stamped with TRUMP, the left involuntarily clench their ovaries.


But maybe I'm missing something.
victor809 Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 7:33 PM EST
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The only particularly questionable thing about it was his continued reporting that the raid on Cohen's offices was somehow illegal or violating Cohen's rights.

He did so with no real legal expertise and it turns out with a very significant stake in trying to discredit meullers raid.

Whether you think it is or not, a very significant population believes what he says is news. And even the damn podcasts I listen to, the people disclose things like "I am the director of the new York planetarium " before giving any opinion or even information tangential to the planetarium.

When providing information on a topic, professionals generally disclose any influences that may be perceived later as impacting the information they choose to disclose.

Now that we find he failed to disclose this back when he was screaming about Cohen's offices being raided, everyone has to wonder what it is he was trying to hide then.
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 7:34 PM EST
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Tl/dr... people who don't like Hannity smell blood in the water because he's not acting in a manner that a professional journalist with nothing to hide would act.
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#4 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 7:35 PM EST
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Well, it's not the Rose Law Firm so yea.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 7:41 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tl/dr... people who don't like Hannity smell blood in the water because he's not acting in a manner that a professional journalist with nothing to hide would act.



That's a laugh. I put him in the sane category as Rachael Maddow. Both are nothing but propagandists.
victor809 Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 7:46 PM EST
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You're not wrong.
But they attempt to present themselves as credible and as I stated above, even if you think they're laughable there are people who take the things they say as journalistic truth (ie the orange moron in office... who appears to be heavily influenced off the last thing he sees on fox news)
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#7 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 8:17 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Tl/dr... people who don't like Hannity smell blood in the water because he's not acting in a manner that a professional journalist with nothing to hide would act.


I've never seen him on TV or anywhere else ...

however, the era of professionalism in journalism is over and dead ... blatant bias in one direction or the other is pretty much all that can be seen whether on TV or in print ..
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#8 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 8:40 PM EST
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what has caught my interest, but has not created moisture, are contradictory statements:

a-citing Client/Attorney Privilege.
and
b-he is not my attorney. I am not a client.

if b is true, he has no claim to keep his interactions with Cohen private in this investigation.

Also, he is either spending a ton of rubles or is getting free advertising on Trump TV Network...big time promotions from the POTUS.
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#9 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 9:05 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
what has caught my interest, but has not created moisture, are contradictory statements:

a-citing Client/Attorney Privilege.
and
b-he is not my attorney. I am not a client.

if b is true, he has no claim to keep his interactions with Cohen private in this investigation.

Also, he is either spending a ton of rubles or is getting free advertising on Trump TV Network...big time promotions from the POTUS.


Going to come down to the definition of attorney/client relationship. Regardless, it's a very, very slippery slope. One that should, imho, err to the side of confidentiality.

Does one have to officially take someone as a client for privilege to exist? What happens to situations where a person consults an attorney about a matter? Suppose the attorney declines the case? Maybe the attorney feels the issue will take more time than said attorney has the ability to devote to the case. What if the attorney has a conflict? Perhaps it a nuanced area of law which the attorney lacks expertise. The prospective client told the attorney about their pediment under the assumption that there was an attorney/client privilege. Should that person now fear that law enforcement, be it local, state or federal seizing those records since the attorney didn't take that person as a client?

Very, very slippery slope indeed.
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#10 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 9:14 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Going to come down to the definition of attorney/client relationship. Regardless, it's a very, very slippery slope. One that should, imho, err to the side of confidentiality.

Does one have to officially take someone as a client for privilege to exist? What happens to situations where a person consults an attorney about a matter? Suppose the attorney declines the case? Maybe the attorney feels the issue will take more time than said attorney has the ability to devote to the case. What if the attorney has a conflict? Perhaps it a nuanced area of law which the attorney lacks expertise. The prospective client told the attorney about their pediment under the assumption that there was an attorney/client privilege. Should that person now fear that law enforcement, be it local, state or federal seizing those records since the attorney didn't take that person as a client?

Very, very slippery slope indeed.

do you always go to this length to defend public figures with so many what-ifs?
I count 8 of them.

HA!

#9- what if Cohen said Hannity is a client?
Abrignac Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 9:40 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
do you always go to this length to defend public figures with so many what-ifs?
I count 8 of them.


I'd feel the same regardless. Having been a LEO, I see where this can tip, actually tun it over, the scales of justice.
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#12 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 9:43 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
I'd feel the same regardless. Having been a LEO, I see where this can tip, actually tun it over, the scales of justice.

in that case, even prouder to know ya!

I find it dumb of Hannity to deny being a client though...except for the fact that it makes his connection to the White House even more of an obvious case of Gov manipulating the press...speaking of slippery slopes, especially with Trump screaming about fake news.
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#13 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 10:01 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
in that case, even prouder to know ya!

I find it dumb of Hannity to deny being a client though...except for the fact that it makes his connection to the White House even more of an obvious case of Gov manipulating the press...speaking of slippery slopes, especially with Trump screaming about fake news.


Slippery Peaks, valleys and even caves......
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#14 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 10:13 PM EST
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we really should savor these days.
Abrignac Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 10:20 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
we really should savor these days.


We really shoudn't. Politicians were once amiable and were able to find common ground on most issues. Today most are zealots who simply refuse to work with others who don't share their ideology.
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#16 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 10:22 PM EST
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One could say they are doing an excellent job of representing their constituents....
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#17 Posted: Tue, Apr 17 2018, 10:24 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
We really shoudn't. Politicians were once amiable and were able to find common ground on most issues. Today most are zealots who simply refuse to work with others who don't share their ideology.

screw the pols, I mean us, me and you.
such unprecedented behavior that is unlikely to be repeated.

It's like an endless bachelor party.
rfenst Online
#18 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 5:09 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:


When providing information on a topic, professionals generally disclose any influences that may be perceived later as impacting the information they choose to disclose.

Now that we find he failed to disclose this back when he was screaming about Cohen's offices being raided, everyone has to wonder what it is he was trying to hide then.


Nothing to hide so far, but he has damaged his own credibility by not upholding journalistic standards.
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#19 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 5:22 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:


Does one have to officially take someone as a client for privilege to exist? No.

What happens to situations where a person consults an attorney about a matter? Suppose the attorney declines the case? Maybe the attorney feels the issue will take more time than said attorney has the ability to devote to the case. ACP attaches

What if the attorney has a conflict? Lawyer may have to withdraw from both clients

Perhaps it a nuanced area of law which the attorney lacks expertise. The prospective client told the attorney about their pediment under the assumption that there was an attorney/client privilege. Should that person now fear that law enforcement, be it local, state or federal seizing those records since the attorney didn't take that person as a client? No.

Very, very slippery slope indeed.



There is no clear-cut always easy answer. Each situation is to be considered on its own merritt.
Abrignac Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 10:51 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
There is no clear-cut always easy answer. Each situation is to be considered on its own merritt.



Was waiting on you to chime in. Thanks
delta1 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 12:30 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
in that case, even prouder to know ya!

I find it dumb of Hannity to deny being a client though...except for the fact that it makes his connection to the White House even more of an obvious case of Gov manipulating the press...speaking of slippery slopes, especially with Trump screaming about fake news.



It's been obvious that it has been the reverse...Trump seems to be responding to the beat of Hannity, especially, and Fox News...multiple times Fox pundits have expressed opinions and made suggestions about a course of action and within hours, that very thing is tweeted by Trump or announced by the WH...

Seems that Fox News is now running the country...and their audience is loving it...tune in to find out what they're putting in the President's mind.
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#22 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 1:06 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Nothing to hide so far, but he has damaged his own credibility by not upholding journalistic standards.



He's not a journalist though. He's always been Op Ed. On TV and on the Radio. All day 24/7

This from him:

Sean Hannity✔@seanhannity

Michael Cohen has never represented me in any matter. I never retained him, received an invoice, or paid legal fees. I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective. I assumed those conversations were confidential, but to be absolutely clear they never involved any matter between me and a third-party.

In response to some wild speculation, let me make clear that I did not ask Michael Cohen to bring this proceeding on my behalf, I have no personal interest in this proceeding, and, in fact, asked that my de minimis discussions with Michael Cohen, which dealt almost exclusively about real estate, not be made a part of this proceeding.
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#23 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 3:13 PM EST
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https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/wtf-msm-lawyer-abc-cnn-nyt-pressured-judge-publicly-name-hannity-cohens-client/
victor809 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 3:43 PM EST
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Z (and the author of his article) doesn't recognize the ethical difference between disclosing a relationship one has with a lawyer when publicly making a "news" report about that lawyer... and disclosing that information was procured by hiring a lawyer to get it...

Not understanding that difference is a problem z. It creates bigger questions about your willingness to think through a problem, rather than just keying in on specific words...

(I can actually imagine how that article was written... "hey! This situation has lawyers and media and the word disclose ! Its the same thing!... or at least the people who read our crap won't be able to tell the difference!"
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#25 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 3:53 PM EST
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Ironically... I've seen this happen a lot recently. Anyone who's interested may find it a fun game. I know this happens with conservatives... maybe it happens on the other side as well... but I don't hang out in forums where I would be exposed to it)

Whenever there's an ethical issue on the conservatives side... (ie Donald Trump does something... or says something... or a Republican congressman pays a woman to keep quiet... you know... a day that ends with 'y') ... shortly after a few articles start getting pushed out to try to show that the "other side" did the same thing... it may be the "mainstream media" or the democrats... but the consistent part is that it uses the same words. Whether they really fit or not. There may be better words to describe whatever the issue it's trying to claim is there. But the author wants to use the same words. I'm guessing so it pops up when readers Google "democrats xXxX yyyy" (in this case they appear to be trying to get "lawyers disclosure".

It's very unfortunate because I'm sure it works really well.
Then people who don't think critically about a topic paste the article in a forum thinking they super won. And most people just see there's an article and assume by the title it must be proving that person right... and they post it elsewhere as well. (By the way... who the f thinks an article with "wtf" and "msm" in the title is going to be anything other than crap? A serious and professional person does not use wtf in a title... and anyone looking for credibility in a point doesn't use jingoistic terms like "msm" or "sjw"...)
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#26 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 4:30 PM EST
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Is this the first time we figured out the attorney was representing the media? I guess I knew that last week. The above presentation is a nice slant though.

I think the broader point is perhaps Cohen isn't working as an attorney much of the time or perhaps any of the time and privilege doesn't apply or at least not across the board. Hannity is an interesting footnote that no one knew when the request was made (or maybe they suspected it makes no difference).

here we have an attorney with three clients, at least one of which is claiming not to be a client, who evidently does not accept money for his work but does take out loans to pay off his clients issues without their knowledge. Makes sense. But what is most upsetting is the attorney that approached the bench and got a name disclosed at the direction of the judge, and out loud rather than written at the discretion of cohen's lawyer, was representing the entire news media as a whole which is very common and happens every day.
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#27 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 4:32 PM EST
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3-2-1 GO!
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#28 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 5:31 PM EST
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Hannity is a blow hard and I couldnt care less who his attorney is
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#29 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 10:42 PM EST
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The crazy part is that the blow hard is a trusted adviser to the POTUS...and the man has NO serious qualifications...no degree, no specialized training in any field, his work experience before becoming a broadcaster: worked as a contractor while attending college (but never graduated)...


and 35% of Americans say this MAGA...


I'd feel better if ZRX, tailgater or Drafter were advising Trump...
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#30 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 10:53 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
The crazy part is that the blow hard is a trusted adviser to the POTUS...and the man has NO serious qualifications...no degree, no specialized training in any field, his work experience before becoming a broadcaster: worked as a contractor while attending college (but never graduated)...


and 35% of Americans say this MAGA...


I'd feel better if ZRX, tailgater or Drafter were advising Trump...


Would this be similar to a community organizer, turned senator who became President?
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#31 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 10:57 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Would this be similar to a community organizer, turned senator who became President?


No it wouldn't.
That guy had a JD and taught at one of the top law schools in the country.
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#32 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 11:01 PM EST
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banderl wrote:
No it wouldn't.
That guy had a JD and taught at one of the top law schools in the country.


So you're saying that a teacher with no experience qualified him to run one of the largest corporations in the world? Thanks for pointing that out.
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#33 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 11:07 PM EST
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LMAO
delta1 Offline
#34 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 11:12 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Would this be similar to a community organizer, turned senator who became President?




No...not close. Don't really need to do a comparison, but...

Obama was a college graduate, and completed a law degree at Harvard, top of his class. Law school professor for a few years. State Senator. US Senator. (if a similar candidate for the next Presidential elections was a con, the right would embrace him/her)

Hannity dabbled at a few colleges, taking a few classes...


You're just mad because I inadvertently left you off the list of cons who I would trust to advise Trump...and I didn't mean to denigrate contractors when describing Hannity's experience, Sir!
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#35 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 11:28 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
So you're saying that a teacher with no experience qualified him to run one of the largest corporations in the world? Thanks for pointing that out.

twelve years in state and national government is a little more than "no experience" ...twelve more than Trump and Hannity...and it kinda shows

... he did a better job of getting and keeping good hired help...
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#36 Posted: Wed, Apr 18 2018, 11:31 PM EST
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Actually, I'd much prefer a person have executive branch experience like that of a governor before ascending to the office of President.
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#37 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 9:18 AM EST
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Al, the DNC machine is better organized. They had his hires loaded.
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#38 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 9:45 AM EST
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delta1 wrote:



I'd feel better if ZRX, tailgater or Drafter were advising Trump...



Can I get an Amen?
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#39 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 9:48 AM EST
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Back on point, I still see no reason why so many in the media are blowing gaskets over Hannity and his lawyer acquaintance.
Why would a television celebrity, even one affiliated with "news", be obligated to reveal who he knows?

It's a false argument. He owes nothing because it doesn't matter.
To suggest otherwise is simply being too needy.
Sure, you WANT to know. But you don't need to know.
It's ridiculous.
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#40 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 10:17 AM EST
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The fact that Cohen has only 2 1/2 clients and is known as the "family fix-it guy" makes me wonder if the advice Hannity sought was not about real estate but about something more nefarious.

Bottom line for me, I wouldn't give a damn but Sean is considered by Fox and many others as Trump's unofficial chief of staff.

Having the same fixer is suspicious.

Or no? It's normal?

The smart money is on Hannity needed things fixed from time to time.

Follow the money.
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#41 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 10:30 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Back on point, I still see no reason why so many in the media are blowing gaskets over Hannity and his lawyer acquaintance.
Why would a television celebrity, even one affiliated with "news", be obligated to reveal who he knows?

It's a false argument. He owes nothing because it doesn't matter.
To suggest otherwise is simply being too needy.
Sure, you WANT to know. But you don't need to know.
It's ridiculous.







I agree he's an entertainer and in no way a journalist or news guy. But he does play one on Fox News Channel, and sleeps at a holiday inn express.

Maybe Fox News needs to put a disclaimer before and after the show indicating that its entertainment only and in no way is expected to follow any sort of journalistic integrity. Same for the other networks with opinion shows. If they don't maybe they should be expected to follow journalistic norms, values and ethical standards. Shep previously tried to put that in context (a few times) but Hannity fought back with Fox News support. Shep of course is a heritic and not to be trusted.

Hannity clearly doesn't embrace any journalistic ethics, yet there is the inference that he is a news guy on a news channel. Maybe the folks in here are smarter than most and know he is an entertainer, but many folks don't. Truth be told many in here don't. I watch him sporadically and his take and comments can often predict the next days comments and viewpoints in here, let alone on the hill. He leads not follows. Now as a plus hes an adviser to the Prez. who is attempting to shape the opposition to the investigations in an attempt to deligitimize them.

If I was speaking to someone in here who adamantly argued about someone like Cohen, railed on "the other side" etc. then later found out they had hired him previously and never disclosed that I'd take issue with them and their integrity. I guess I'm all about transparency and integrity which is why I find Hillary vile. Even though I recognize they would have no legal mandate to tell me, I hate liars and find half truths and omissions to be lies. He has no integrity at all.

I'd have the same take if that Maddow dude secretly hired hillary or shumer or whatever and constantly puffed them up (often with misinformation) and attacked their adversaries. I'd guess some would be ok with that.

Cohen is more of an issue than Hannity though. Hannity is an amusing footnote. Cohen has the potential to be much more. Better call Saul.
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#42 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 11:48 AM EST
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Are you making fun of holiday inn express?
tailgater Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 11:51 AM EST
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More to the point: even if Hannity were a legitimate news journalist it wouldn't matter.

How many in the "news" industry were friends with Bubba?
Or with Obama? You've seen him schmooze through the cable industry darlings.

Are we saying that there is no journalist in the greater DC area that shares a lawyer with a politician whom they reported on?

Really?

This is literally nothing.
Other than straws.
Being grasped at.
Unsuccessfully.
tailgater Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 11:57 AM EST
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And let's be honest.

Liberals give WAY more credence to what the Sean Hannity's of the world say then the conservatives do.
They want someone to blame, so they attack the biggest names in conservative media.

They did it with Rush.
Now it's Hannity.

Same as it ever was.
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#45 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 12:51 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:


Better call Saul.


I think Saul was the name of the Russian national that gave Cohen his intro into deal maker for other big criminal stars like Saul.
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#46 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 1:24 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
And let's be honest.

Liberals give WAY more credence to what the Sean Hannity's of the world say then the conservatives do.





Really. I've never given anything Sean had to say any credence. But he does have my attention for the moment.

But you're right TG. Conservatives, once supportive of guys and gals like Beck, Limbaugh Coulter, Imus and O'Reilly have even since the Bush Era distanced themselves from Fox types.
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#47 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 1:39 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:

But you're right TG. Conservatives, once supportive of guys and gals like Beck, Limbaugh Coulter, Imus and O'Reilly have even since the Bush Era distanced themselves from Fox types.


Not what I said.
But you run with that.




I don't watch his show. I rarely hear him on radio.
Everything I know about him I learn from liberals.
Liberal media and liberal friends who whine about him.

Pretty straight forward.
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#48 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 1:53 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Not what I said.
But you run with that.




I don't watch his show. I rarely hear him on radio.
Everything I know about him I learn from liberals.
Liberal media and liberal friends who whine about him.

Pretty straight forward.



Not what you said?
You said "Liberals give WAY more credence to what the Sean Hannity's of the world say then the conservatives do."

I answered "you're right"about conservatives ignoring the fox ranters.
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#49 Posted: Thu, Apr 19 2018, 2:03 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
The fact that Cohen has only 2 1/2 clients and is known as the "family fix-it guy" makes me wonder if the advice Hannity sought was not about real estate but about something more nefarious.

Bottom line for me, I wouldn't give a damn but Sean is considered by Fox and many others as Trump's unofficial chief of staff.

Having the same fixer is suspicious.

Or no? It's normal?

The smart money is on Hannity needed things fixed from time to time.

Follow the money.



Do you have any idea how many lawyers the guy has on his shows? He'd be stupid not to gleam them for some free advice.
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#50 Posted: Fri, Apr 20 2018, 1:08 PM EST
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one claimed him as a client...not that it will ever matter...


anyway, someone asked for an Amen


AMEN!
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