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GOP reps refer Comey, Clinton, McCabe for criminal investigation
By Judson Berger, Brooke Singman

Published April 18, 2018
FoxNews.com
Nearly a dozen Republican members of Congress on Wednesday sent a criminal referral to the Justice Department and FBI seeking an investigation of former bureau boss James Comey, his deputy Andrew McCabe, ex-Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Hillary Clinton in connection with 2016 campaign controversies.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions already announced last month he had assigned a federal prosecutor to review some of those broader issues, while resisting calls for a second special counsel. But the referral represents an escalation of Republican pressure to probe top Democrats and Trump critics.

Rep. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla., and 10 other House lawmakers want an investigation into potential violations that cover everything from the handling of the Clinton email probe to the anti-Trump dossier’s funding to the Uranium One controversy. They made their case in a letter sent Wednesday to Sessions, FBI Director Christopher Wray, and U.S. Attorney John Huber, whom Sessions named to lead the previously announced evaluation.

Complaining about “dissimilar degrees of zealousness” in the investigations into Clinton and Trump campaign associates, they wrote:

“Because we believe that those in positions of high authority should be treated the same as every other American, we want to be sure that the potential violations of law outlined below are vetted appropriately.”

Radio talk show host and Fox News contributor on whether Comey seems to be losing respect on both sides of the aisle.
They named Comey, Clinton, Lynch, McCabe, FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and several others as figures who should be investigated.

The Comey section focused in part on a statement Comey drafted before interviewing Clinton as part of the email probe. Republicans have long called it an exoneration statement that effectively cleared her months before the case was over. The GOP letter suggested this presents a conflict with Comey’s September 2016 congressional testimony in which he said they made the decision not to recommend criminal charges after interviewing Clinton.

“They made this determination months before,” DeSantis, who is running for Florida governor, told “Fox & Friends.” “The lack of candor with the Congress is something that needs to be investigated.”

Comey brushed off the claims during an interview Wednesday on ABC’s “The View.”

Rep. Mark Meadows calls on DOJ to hand over documents showing coordination with FBI in 2016 election; chief intelligence correspondent Catherine Herridge reports.
Asked about the letter, Comey said "the accusations are not true," but added that he has confidence in the inspector general, which is already reviewing the handling of the email probe.

"Let's let the institution do its work," he said.

Comey also defended the early draft statement on the conclusion of the Clinton case in his newly released book.

“Any investigator or prosecutor who doesn’t have a sense, after nearly a year of investigation, where their case is likely headed, is incompetent. Prosecutors routinely begin drafting indictments before an investigation is finished if it looks likely to end up there, and competent ones also begin thinking how to end investigations that seem likely to end without charges,” Comey explained in "A Higher Loyalty."

The GOP lawmakers also cited Comey’s decision to write and share memos detailing conversations with Trump.

The potential violations they cited included perjury and unauthorized removal of classified documents – though Comey has maintained the memos did not contain classified material.

As for Clinton, the GOP lawmakers cited a single concern – that a lawyer representing her 2016 campaign paid the firm behind the research that led to the controversial anti-Trump dossier. The letter argued that they disguised the payments by not properly disclosing them to the Federal Election Commission.

A Clinton spokesman slammed the referral as “pathetic” and politically motivated.

“House Republicans have seen the numbers and are running scared as we head into midterm season. They should focus on working for the people they are asking to reelect them, not do Trump’s bidding. It’s pathetic,” Nick Merrill said.

The referral's Lynch section cited an alleged threat of “reprisal” against an informant in the Uranium One case, which dealt with the controversial Obama administration deal that gave Russia partial control over the U.S. uranium supply.

The lawmakers also hit McCabe over the same issues raised in a recent DOJ inspector general report that found he leaked to the media and later lied about it. The former FBI deputy director was fired last month by Sessions just days before he would have been eligible for a lifetime pension after it was determined that he misled investigators.

The section on Strzok and Page focused on their “interference in the Hillary Clinton investigation.” The two FBI officials, who worked on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team for a short period and were romantically involved, frequently shared anti-Trump text messages.

Lastly, the lawmakers asked that Sessions investigate personnel connected to the “compilation of documents on alleged links between Russia and then-presidential candidate Donald Trump known as the 'Steele dossier.'" The letter cites those individuals as McCabe, Comey, former Acting Attorney General Sally Yates and FBI General Counsel Dana Boente, among others.

The dossier was presented to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) to obtain a warrant to conduct surveillance on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

Comey signed three FISA applications for Page, while McCabe and current Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (who oversees the Russia probe), Yates and Boente each signed at least one. In a footnote to the letter, the lawmakers wrote that “due to the possible involvement of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in signing an application for continued surveillance on Carter Page, Rosenstein should be recused from any examination of FISA abuse.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/18/gop-reps-refer-comey-clinton-mccabe-for-criminal-investigation.html


Read the letter here...

https://desantis.house.gov/_cache/files/8/0/8002ca75-52fc-4995-b87e-43584da268db/472EBC7D8F55C0F9E830D37CF96376A2.final-criminal-referral.pdf
teedubbya Offline
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I am shocked SHOCKED that some republicans want to investigate Hillary et. al again at the same time not wanting any investigation into Dolt 45 because you shouldn't investigate unless you already have proof therefor no need to investigate and the investigation is evil and awful even though we know little about the investigation.

I am also shocked SHOCKED that said republicans making the request is a reflection of Hillary er al rather than the republicans making the request.

Shocked i tell you.... SHOCKED
victor809 Offline
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I heard someone gave TW the shocker....
teedubbya Offline
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I have no goo
Cathcam13 Offline
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I have one question, Does Hillary still know where enough bodies are buried to keep herself from prison this time? My guess, yes............
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The letter was authored by Florida gubernatorial hopeful Ron DeSantis and signed by a bunch of House Freedom Caucus members. So written by a politically ambitious climber and signed by folks intent on distracting the headlines away from the Mueller investigation. All serious Trump supporters and Russian collusion deniers. Comical at best.
Good luck. Let's follow this.
Assuming of course that Trump doesn't fire Sessions on a bad hair day.
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I tried to tell you guys.. Not talking
rfenst Offline
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Cathcam13 wrote:
I have one question, Does Hillary still know where enough bodies are buried to keep herself from prison this time? My guess, yes............


Yes.
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Buncha sore losers...
Abrignac Offline
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I say investigate Hillary and everyone one else in Washington. DC. Hell, while we're at it let's move outward and investigate ever damn politician in the US. Then we should investigate every citizen as well. If things are cheaper by the dozen then the American people should get a massive discount if we investigate all of us.

Correct me if I'm wrong. The Mueller investigation is an extension of Comey's investigation into any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. It is also known that monies from Hillary's Presidential campaign fund were used to pay a DC law firm who intern paid Fusion GPS who paid Steele to comply a dossier on Trump. Steele coordinated with the Russians to produce a document meant to embarrass Trump.

Why isn't Mueller investigating Hillary for colluding with the Russians to taint the 2016 Presidential election?

Think
victor809 Offline
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An interesting question. I will guess it's because of intent.
The dossier was not produced "in cooperation with" russians... (theoretically... mind you, I'm willing to believe that anything "leaked" from Russian intelligence sources has a non-zero chance of being intentionally planted.)

But when either the Republican website was funding the Steele dossier, or later when the Clinton campaign funded j
It..... in both those cases they were not knowingly (or at least in any way with sufficient evidence to investigate) working with Russia. As in, they never had meetings with people who implied they were representing the Russian government. Now... Trump may not have either. But there is some evidence that his representatives may have.

End result may be the same... m
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Heck... maybe he'll get around to it sooner or later.

I don't see anything wrong with starting with the person in the most power to create problems due to that influence first...

To put it plainly...
If we all knew without a doubt; not "msnbc/fox news knew" but literally recordings/video etc... that both Trump and Clinton colluded with Russians before the election. I mean videos of Clinton and Trump both handing suitcases of cash to putin....
In that case... it would still make sense to go after Trump first. Sure... if they both committed the exact same crime then punish both. But investigate the person who is in power first, makes sense to triage it that way as they would pose the biggest threat to our democracy.
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If either of them broke the law, they should be investigated... and if there is sufficient evidence, prosecuted. Just like you, me or any American...not one of us is above the law...but we are all entitled to due process of the law.
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victor809 wrote:
An interesting question. I will guess it's because of intent.
The dossier was not produced "in cooperation with" russians... (theoretically... mind you, I'm willing to believe that anything "leaked" from Russian intelligence sources has a non-zero chance of being intentionally planted.)

But when either the Republican website was funding the Steele dossier, or later when the Clinton campaign funded j
It..... in both those cases they were not knowingly (or at least in any way with sufficient evidence to investigate) working with Russia. As in, they never had meetings with people who implied they were representing the Russian government. Now... Trump may not have either. But there is some evidence that his representatives may have.

End result may be the same... m


It was Hillary's people who commissioned the Steele dossier. You statement makes as much sense as saying since some members of the FBI are tainted then the entire FBI is tainted.

The Republican website you speak of commissioned research on entire the lineup of Republicans. They did the same for the Democratic hopefuls. They had nothing to do with the Steele dossier. Why would you muddy the waters with something that you know isn't true?
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Because his the smartest dumbass here.....
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Anthony... my understanding is that the steele dossier was initially republican funded. Whether they also funded investigations of all other candidates or not... they funded it too . Not necessarily relevant, but if we're going after everyone who touched it as part of the election, that organization is just as guilty.

If the bar for collusion includes funding research by a Brit who may have worked with Russians to get information... well... then a lot of groups are going to be caught up in that net.
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You talk a lot for someone who doesn't read much. Kinda like my 6 year old.......
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victor809 wrote:
Anthony... my understanding is that the steele dossier was initially republican funded. Whether they also funded investigations of all other candidates or not... they funded it too . Not necessarily relevant, but if we're going after everyone who touched it as part of the election, that organization is just as guilty.

If the bar for collusion includes funding research by a Brit who may have worked with Russians to get information... well... then a lot of groups are going to be caught up in that net.


Do a little fact finding. Fusion GPS was hired during the primaries by a Republican client to do research on all the candidates. After the primaries in the lead up to the election, Marc Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS to conduct research. Afterwards, Fusion GPS hired Steele who compiled the dossier. Fusion GPS then turned the dossier over to Hillary's campaign. Afterward a copy was sent to John McCain who forwarded it to Comey.
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Abrignac wrote:
Do a little fact finding. Fusion GPS was hired during the primaries by a Republican client to do research on all the candidates. After the primaries in the lead up to the election, Marc Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS to conduct research. Afterwards, Fusion GPS hired Steele who compiled the dossier. Fusion GPS then turned the dossier over to Hillary's campaign. Afterward a copy was sent to John McCain who forwarded it to Comey.


You're right Anthony, I didn't know the steele dossier came on later. I checked snopes and it agrees with you. I assumed the steele dossier came on at the same time fusiongps did.
So, in that case you're right. The republican website would not be culpable. However that level is still going to cast a very wide net. Think of how many agencies or companies might be buying intel from russian operatives through 4th parties (to the best of my knowledge that's all steele did).

But, if we want to set collusion at that level, we can. I'm not against it. I just want to make sure that the same standard is applied to all.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
You talk a lot for someone who doesn't read much. Kinda like my 6 year old.......


And you regurgitate a lot of crap which someone with critical thinking skills would discount.
Kinda like a 6 year old who has been taught to memorize 2+2=5, and now thinks they understand algebra.
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They used a lawyer to pay him.....didn't disclose it to the FCC. Had they done that it COULDN'T have been used......again you are clueless. I'm not going to walk you from the tree house to the creek and make you drink the water. I'm pointing your half engaged azz at the creek. It's obvious you know far less than half of anything so why would I bother going A to B.
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Abrignac wrote:
I say investigate Hillary and everyone one else in Washington. DC. Hell, while we're at it let's move outward and investigate ever damn politician in the US. Then we should investigate every citizen as well. If things are cheaper by the dozen then the American people should get a massive discount if we investigate all of us.

Correct me if I'm wrong. The Mueller investigation is an extension of Comey's investigation into any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump. It is also known that monies from Hillary's Presidential campaign fund were used to pay a DC law firm who intern paid Fusion GPS who paid Steele to comply a dossier on Trump. Steele coordinated with the Russians to produce a document meant to embarrass Trump.

Why isn't Mueller investigating Hillary for colluding with the Russians to taint the 2016 Presidential election?

Think



I don't know that he isn't or hasn't. My guess is he will follow any path or string of evidence that makes sense. At least I would hope so.

I don't think his charge is specific to getting republicans or Trump. I think it's Russian interference and any other crimes that surface while looking in to that (which is entirely appropriate) and Mueller being a life long Republican strikes me as someone that will follow the evidence. If you have that evidence, I'm sure he does too and I doubt he would ignore it. I highly doubt he puts it through a Democrat or Republican filter.

I actually appreciated the don't believe everything you see in the press message that got bagged on in here. Maybe we really don't know what he is doing despite the histrionics on all sides all sides.

Investigate both and all. It's interesting to me the folks that don't want one side investigated but do want the other. I also see the attempts to smear Mueller as an indication that someone knows they were naughty and the facts don't support them thus go to plan B. That's pure speculation though.
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Cathcam13 wrote:
I have one question, Does Hillary still know where enough bodies are buried to keep herself from prison this time? My guess, yes............


I dunno about that but I bet she knows who was getting cheese and pepperoni pizza delivered to their houses!!!
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teedubbya wrote:
I actually appreciated the don't believe everything you see in the press message that got bagged on in here. Maybe we really don't know what he is doing despite the histrionics on all sides all sides.


That's because they already would've been busted wide open for wearing blinders!!!

When they wanted to bust Cohen for visiting Prague...his lawyers shudda told him to sit down and shut up...then let them produce all the weekend headlines they could muster...see if actually goes anywhere and then produce his passport where it clearly showed he has never been stamped for entry to that country...matter of fact witnesses put him in California while he was supposed to be there.

Not to mention who's actually on his "team" too! Who gets a 9-0 decision in the 9th District?

Yeah, so there's that.
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My takeaway from the right is: stop investigating Trump. If he and his crew are guilty of anything, just let it go.

Is that right? Do Trump supporters care if he's guilty of crimes related to Russia or hookers?
Or does it not matter. I'm serious. I can't tell anymore.

And try to resist mentioning Hillary. I get it. You aren't done with her. But let's leave her for another day.

Does it not matter to Trump supporters whether or not he knowingly cheated in the election?

Does it matter that as evidence suggests, he is indebted to Russian oligarchs and might be compromised in his decision making?

No Hillary did this or that diversion, please?

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HuckFinn wrote:
My takeaway from the right is: stop investigating Trump. If he and his crew are guilty of anything, just let it go.

Is that right? Do Trump supporters care if he's guilty of crimes related to Russia or hookers?
Or does it not matter. I'm serious. I can't tell anymore.

And try to resist mentioning Hillary. I get it. You aren't done with her. But let's leave her for another day.

Does it not matter to Trump supporters whether or not he knowingly cheated in the election?

Does it matter that as evidence suggests, he is indebted to Russian oligarchs and might be compromised in his decision making?

No Hillary did this or that diversion, please?




You're entitled to anything you want to believe. It doesn't make it factual.

The entire dossier created by Christopher Steele (whom was working with the FBI!) and paid for by Fusion GPS by Hillary Clinton. The mere fact that news outlets had it for days before even commenting on it should tell you that it was a massive joke and full of non-verified stories designed to damage a campaign. FACT.

I seriously want you to reread that last paragraph, because you casually blow off a lot of people's posts here. I want to believe it's because it doesn't jive with your own "compass" and not that you're completely stupid.

Do you see how dangerous that this is? A former First Lady, Senator and Secretary of State used the FBI as her own personal attack dog to destroy a campaign. Then when that didn't work, the FBI used the dossier (which they KNEW was fake because they CREATED IT!!!) as the crux to obtain FISA warrants. Plural. To wiretap on a private American citizen that just happened to be running for POTUS! FACT!

Then we have McCabe and Comey BOTH lying in front of Congress. FACT!

You STILL want to make this about Russia? Still? There's nothing there. There NEVER was. If there was you really think even after the Syrian bombing run that just happened the Russians wouldn't show their hand and expose whatever you can imagine? Your point on this matter (and anyone else that wants to believe it!) is laughable! You think he's "indebted" the the Russians and he's openly bombing their weaponry that props one of the remaining despots of the World?
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You're entitled to anything you want to believe. It doesn't make it factual.

The entire dossier created by Christopher Steele (whom was working with the FBI!) and paid for by Fusion GPS by Hillary Clinton. The mere fact that news outlets had it for days before even commenting on it should tell you that it was a massive joke and full of non-verified stories designed to damage a campaign. FACT.

I seriously want you to reread that last paragraph, because you casually blow off a lot of people's posts here. I want to believe it's because it doesn't jive with your own "compass" and not that you're completely stupid.

Do you see how dangerous that this is? A former First Lady, Senator and Secretary of State used the FBI as her own personal attack dog to destroy a campaign. Then when that didn't work, the FBI used the dossier (which they KNEW was fake because they CREATED IT!!!) as the crux to obtain FISA warrants. Plural. To wiretap on a private American citizen that just happened to be running for POTUS! FACT!

Then we have McCabe and Comey BOTH lying in front of Congress. FACT!

You STILL want to make this about Russia? Still? There's nothing there. There NEVER was. If there was you really think even after the Syrian bombing run that just happened the Russians wouldn't show their hand and expose whatever you can imagine? Your point on this matter (and anyone else that wants to believe it!) is laughable! You think he's "indebted" the the Russians and he's openly bombing their weaponry that props one of the remaining despots of the World?

You have your facts wrong. Hillary, the candidate and the DNC contracted Fusion who subcontracted Christopher Steele, a retired MI-6 officer with considerable expertise on Russian matters, to use his contacts in Moscow to find what he could about Trump’s connections to the Russian government. The FBI didn't know what Steele found (not created!) until the media already had it in their hands. The media couldn't verify (not at the time anyway) the 6 major points in the dossier because it was untraceable intel.
It's over a year later and many of Steele’s points have been verified. Not all.
So what, Steele shared his findings with the FBI before the election. Do you know what the 6 points are? The FBI should have been notified and interested!
One point, there was a Trump Russian connection. Trump had his gofers Papadopoulos, Manaford, Flynn, and Cohen meet with a who's who of Russians to better their election win chances.

In the end, the dossier was a major media story. A year ago. If the charges expressed come back to haunt Trump only time and the Mueller investigation will tell. And as far as your hatred of lying is concerned, really???
Trump supporters can and do claim all sorts of things, but not the moral high ground!!

Oh, and if you think a chemical storage facility, clear of all Russian soldiers getting bombed is proof positive that Trump is not in Putin's pocket then you're naive doc.

But back to my 'stupid' question if you don't mind: do you care if Trump is guilty of collusion?
I don't really care if his supporters do or not. But, ok, I am curious

I don't care how many hookers and porn stars he's screwed.
But if he's being blackmailed by Russia because of it, and America is being held hostage ?
That would not be ok to me. You?
If he has borrowed 100s of millions from Russian oligarchs, it matters. Or what?


Do we just give the guy a pass.
Do we fire Mueller?

What if Trump IS guilty?

Hillary, I know.
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Huck you’ve already made your mind up that Trump is guilty. As such you discount anything that doesn’t fit your narrative. Why bother?
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Seems a lot of the info in the Steele dossier has been substantiated by multiple intel agencies...we'll see for sure when Mueller's done and he issues his findings...


all this speculation is just that...


...along with the President's and his supporters among the con's/right's strategy to undermine the investigation and the investigators before they finish their job.


Do they also know how this will end?
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Abrignac wrote:
Huck you’ve already made your mind up that Trump is guilty. As such you discount anything that doesn’t fit your narrative. Why bother?

I have, you're right.

You haven't I gather.
So, if ya would, answer me this: does it matter one way or the other if Donald is guilty of collusion?

Or would you want the investigation to stop and let the whole thing go?

I'm sick and tired of hearing partisan talking heads rant on about it.

But yeah, I'm going to put my faith in the Mueller investigation and hold my nose.
Guilty or not, whatever he finds.
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HuckFinn wrote:
I have, you're right.

You haven't I gather.
So, if ya would, answer me this: does it matter one way or the other if Donald is guilty of collusion?

Or would you want the investigation to stop and let the whole thing go?

I'm sick and tired of hearing partisan talking heads rant on about it.

But yeah, I'm going to put my faith in the Mueller investigation and hold my nose.
Guilty or not, whatever he finds.

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delta1 wrote:
Seems a lot of the info in the Steele dossier has been substantiated by multiple intel agencies...we'll see for sure when Mueller's done and he issues his findings...


all this speculation is just that...


...along with the President's and his supporters among the con's/right's strategy to undermine the investigation and the investigators before they finish their job.


Do they also know how this will end?


Um..No it hasn't!

Nice try.

It was Comey that already had his letter typed up 2 whole months before she was even "interviewed".
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HuckFinn wrote:
But back to my 'stupid' question if you don't mind: do you care if Trump is guilty of collusion?
I don't really care if his supporters do or not. But, ok, I am curious


You're trying very hard to prove a false positive.

When you create lies and manufacture character assassination from whatever you want paid for by the rival political party I would expect anyone and everyone to know the score.

You only care about party lines or hate Trump because he won...IDGAF what you think any more. You have proven without doubt who and what you are.
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anyone have a copy of the Mueller Report that I can borrow?
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Frank..!! Laugh
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DrafterX wrote:
Frank..!! Laugh

I know!
Damarie unlocked the block (I think) that kept me off the forums...too many redirects.
Don't know if I'm here to stay or on temporary life support,,,
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She must really hate you... Mellow
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You're trying very hard to prove a false positive.

When you create lies and manufacture character assassination from whatever you want paid for by the rival political party I would expect anyone and everyone to know the score.

You only care about party lines or hate Trump because he won...IDGAF what you think any more. You have proven without doubt who and what you are.




False positive? In the first nine months of the Mueller investigation he issued more than 100 criminal counts against 19 people and three companies. How can anyone be taken seriously who'd claim it's a witch hunt when Papadopoulos, Flynn, Pinedo, van der Zwaan and Gates
have all pleaded Guilty? And now Manafort and Cohen are looking at accepting deals to save their skins. This has nothing to do with assassinating Trump's character. Revealing it maybe yeah. He's a self-important, rules-don't-apply-to-me kinda guy. And it worked in the corporate world.

The rest of your post is just silly.

I had an open mind regarding Trump and his past questionable activities doc.
But I'm done. There's just way too much smoke.
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HuckFinn wrote:

I had an open mind regarding Trump and his past questionable activities doc.
But I'm done. There's just way too much smoke.


You're done having an open mind?



Know what's funny?
I felt the same way, although from an opposite mindset.

I felt the investigation might be warranted. I mean, the FBI thought it was necessary. So there must be SOME truth.
But the more that gets "revealed", the less substance there is. The target is ever moving.
We can't forget that all this began because of a fake dossier.
Yes.
Fake.

Golden showers? Really?

And don't give me that crap about there is "some truth".

If you go into a shop in Mexico for a cigar, and you see an obvious fake Cuban cigar, do you buy a different cuban cigar thinking it's real?

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HuckFinn wrote:
False positive? In the first nine months of the Mueller investigation he issued more than 100 criminal counts against 19 people and three companies. How can anyone be taken seriously who'd claim it's a witch hunt when Papadopoulos, Flynn, Pinedo, van der Zwaan and Gates
have all pleaded Guilty? And now Manafort and Cohen are looking at accepting deals to save their skins. This has nothing to do with assassinating Trump's character. Revealing it maybe yeah. He's a self-important, rules-don't-apply-to-me kinda guy. And it worked in the corporate world.

The rest of your post is just silly.

I had an open mind regarding Trump and his past questionable activities doc.
But I'm done. There's just way too much smoke.



http://www.cigarbid.com/...ch/?postedby=HuckFinn#30|25

Here is a page of your posts from when you first joined c-bid.......I'm having a hard time finding any that show your "Open Mind"......maybe you could point ONE out as an example Think

You will need to go to page 31-32 of your posts in Poilitics Forum, but they are there
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I heard Hillary once killed a guy for his pizza.. Mellow
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RMAN4443 wrote:
http://www.cigarbid.com/Forum/c/search/?postedby=HuckFinn#30|25

Here is a page of your posts from when you first joined c-bid.......I'm having a hard time finding any that show your "Open Mind"......maybe you could point ONE out as an example Think

You will need to go to page 31-32 of your posts in Poilitics Forum, but they are there

Having strong opinions and trying to keep an open mind are not mutually exclusive.

I'm 67. I see things a certain way at this point.
I value other's opinions. Sometimes they make me see things in new ways.
And my opinion is modified.

As regards Trump and his Keystone cops?
I'm done believing anything any of them have to say.

But like I've said before, as goes the Mueller investigation, so goes I .
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tailgater wrote:
You're done having an open mind?



Know what's funny?
I felt the same way, although from an opposite mindset.

I felt the investigation might be warranted. I mean, the FBI thought it was necessary. So there must be SOME truth.
But the more that gets "revealed", the less substance there is. The target is ever moving.
We can't forget that all this began because of a fake dossier.
Yes.
Fake.

Golden showers? Really?

And don't give me that crap about there is "some truth".

If you go into a shop in Mexico for a cigar, and you see an obvious fake Cuban cigar, do you buy a different cuban cigar thinking it's real?


You seem to like to type. But TG, you're not saying anything.
You have become a trump apologist. Okay.

When was the last time you researched the Steele dossier?
Or the cast of characters indicted?


The dossier is just one of many red flags.
Don't see em? Fine. Don't But don't pontificate.

They sure do look like ccs. You sure they're fakes?
.

DrafterX Offline
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I saw lots of red Hillary flags but she's still walking the streets... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
I saw lots of red Hillary flags but she's still walking the streets... Mellow

So investigate her. But she's currently an old, stay at home grandmother living in upstate ny..
Or is what you're saying "because Hillary got away with breaking laws so should Donald"?
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Nope.. just lock her up... Sending those weiner pics was over the line... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
Nope.. just lock her up... Sending those weiner pics was over the line... Mellow

She has a Weiner?

..always suspected
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That's what I heard... Mellow
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