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DrafterX Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 12:06 PM EST
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Just doesn't seem right... Think
frankj1 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 12:13 PM EST
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I could sure go for 1K a month about now
rfenst Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 12:26 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
I could sure go for 1K a month about now


Not many couldn't...
bgz Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 12:38 PM EST
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I'm kinda on the fence on this one. In reality, we do need to come up with major modifications to our system as automation continues to take over.

With the rise of the $15 - $20 dollar burger flipper initiatives where a $40k machine is totally cheaper than paying a dropout, sh1t needs to change.

At some point, it will be cheaper to just pay people a basic salary than deal with all the bs. I'm not sure when that's going to happen, but it will happen eventually... probably sooner than later.
frankj1 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 12:51 PM EST
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could we teach the unemployed burger flippers how to build 40K burger flippers?
RMAN4443 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 12:59 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
could we teach the unemployed burger flippers how to build 40K burger flippers?

I bet building 40K burger flippers pays better than actually flipping burgers Anxious
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 1:46 PM EST
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What the automatic cheese makers and slicers..?? Huh
Buckwheat Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 2:03 PM EST
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WTF are you all talking about? Beer
dstieger Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 2:11 PM EST
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free money, I think....


Universal basic income.....automate the fluck out of everything and just divide up the profit among every man woman and child....we don't need no stinkin jobs
bgz Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 2:26 PM EST
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I think it boils more down to a very large percentage of the population will soon be useless (even more useless than they already are now).
gummy jones Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 4:31 PM EST
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/23/finland-to-end-basic-income-trial-after-two-years
danmdevries Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 4:37 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
free money, I think....


Universal basic income.....automate the fluck out of everything and just divide up the profit among every man woman and child....we don't need no stinkin jobs


I don't think my job could be automated.

Unless we do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmUVo0xVAqE
bgz Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 4:39 PM EST
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Ya, I don't think we're quite there yet either. I still see a sometimes smiling face when I drive through McDonald's.

We're not there until we have automated robots discriminating against angry liberals at Starbucks instead of overpriced humanoids.
bgz Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 4:41 PM EST
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danmdevries wrote:
I don't think my job could be automated.


Don't be so sure;)

I would like to think that my job couldn't be automated either... but with some sick algorithm skills and a talented group of programmers much more talented than myself, I wouldn't exactly say never.

I do think our jobs are safe in our lifetimes though.
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 6:25 PM EST
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They're gonna need about a dozen robots to do my job... Mellow
danmdevries Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 7:06 PM EST
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My job can't even be "protocolized" if that's a word. It just can't be an IF x THEN y type of thing.

I think at some point it could be semi automated. They're already doing that in some hospitals. Central location with video and telemetry monitoring, a human watching all of that but then notifying the humans on the unit about changes they've noticed and need to be addressed. Tele nurse can be monitoring 20 patients while boots on the ground are responsible for 6 at a time instead of one nurse for 2-3 patients you can have one nurse for every 6 patients.
bgz Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 7:56 PM EST
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There's more to programming than if / then conditionals;)

All it takes is automate one thing... then they say, well, if we can build that step in, then we can build this step in... before you know it... BOOM, you got a bunch of robots under you.

Then if your job gets reduced to monitoring the robots and analyzing the data they give you... well, computers are very good at analyzing data (assuming the programmers that wrote it are competent).

I don't think it's a matter of if, it's more a matter of when.
Ewok126 Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 8:05 PM EST
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My vote is worth more than 1k, Until they go up on amount they ain't getting chit from me. Anxious
DrafterX Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Apr 26 2018, 8:20 PM EST
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That's just it.. just a matter of time before the basic income is increased and our corps move out of the country... Mellow
cacman Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 8:09 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
That's just it.. just a matter of time before the basic income is increased and our corps move out of the country... Mellow

Corps have been moving out of this country for years! It's cheaper to buy clothes made in a third-world country, and hire a Mexican with a pick-up truck to take care of your lawn.
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 8:16 AM EST
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Ya , but they're coming back now.. until a socialist gets elected by promising free stuff.. I'll move to Belize if that happens... Not talking
bgz Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 9:59 AM EST
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Automation is real... it won't just be here, it'll be everywhere.

I've probably cost hundreds of people their jobs by the work I've done for people over the years... but those workers aren't my clients... I have no control over what my clients do once my work is done.

IT guys (the people that fix Windows computers from sales guys browsing porn and stuff) hate me, they know I'm a threat to their existence.
gummy jones Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 10:27 AM EST
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdmIe6qVG6I
RMAN4443 Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 11:07 AM EST
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One of the products we build at the company I work for are the Talon Military Robots.....Awesome power saving the lives of US military personnel

https://youtu.be/yliThCy3RxY

https://youtu.be/kM-K4JhsokU

https://youtu.be/YkaqOsJ8s9Y


If you've seen the movie "The Hurt Locker", you've seen them used as IED removal and detonation robots in the warb in Iraq
BuckyB93 Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 11:46 AM EST
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Do you work with Foster-Miller?
RMAN4443 Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Apr 27 2018, 8:26 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Do you work with Foster-Miller?

Yes......we do a lot of work for them
bgz Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2018, 12:46 AM EST
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Awesome stuff RMAN. I think I've seen that video before.
delta1 Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2018, 12:43 PM EST
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Pairing AI with robots will be mankind's downfall...we'll be extinct/exterminated like pesky vermin shortly afterwards...
bgz Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2018, 2:31 PM EST
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Only if we make them waterproof.
ZRX1200 Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2018, 2:39 PM EST
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I got in an elevator today that told me what floor I was going to.


Fuggin skynet is here.
bgz Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Apr 28 2018, 4:50 PM EST
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Skynet is playing the long game, it all started with elevators.
dstieger Offline
#32 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 9:13 AM EST
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No worries...Andrew Yang will protect us
DrafterX Offline
#33 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 11:29 AM EST
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I woulda argued with the elevator just because and used the stairs a couple flights.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#34 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 11:36 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
I got in an elevator today that told me what floor I was going to.


Fuggin skynet is here.


I got into an elevator the other day.
It said "one at a time, please"

I was alone...
Cathcam13 Offline
#35 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 11:52 AM EST
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I got in an elevator the other day, got stuck between the fifth and sixth floor of the building with the girlfriend, I keep telling her that they need to fix it.
RMAN4443 Offline
#36 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 12:02 PM EST
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Cathcam13 wrote:
I got in an elevator the other day, got stuck between the fifth and sixth floor of the building with the girlfriend, I keep telling her that they need to fix it.

Stuck between floors in an elevator with your girlfriend and you couldn't come up with anything better to do with your time? Think Drool
frankj1 Offline
#37 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 1:07 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Stuck between floors in an elevator with your girlfriend and you couldn't come up with anything better to do with your time? Think Drool

if you don't laugh, I'll give you your money back...about 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRB_ypEnL50
RMAN4443 Offline
#38 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 1:30 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
if you don't laugh, I'll give you your money back...about 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRB_ypEnL50

Good stuff........keep the money,and give yourself a 20% tip Anxious
BuckyB93 Offline
#39 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 2:14 PM EST
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I worked there for about 4 years
tailgater Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 3:07 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
if you don't laugh, I'll give you your money back...about 5 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRB_ypEnL50


Was this before or after he started banging his daughter?
frankj1 Offline
#41 Posted: Mon, Apr 30 2018, 5:06 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Was this before or after he started banging his daughter?

I have it on a double LP called The Nightclub Years, 1964-1967...so that was even before he had released Take the Money and Run I think.

And even before Mia Farrow...wasn't it Mia's adopted daughter?
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