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Prayers for the all of them and their families. Live channels are saying 8 dead possibly 10.

Now lets wait on the "OMG we got to ban shotguns"

Just said on live channel they have found multiple explosive devices at the school and in a home that is where some or one of the students live.

Sickening.

I'm not qualified to work in the WH.

F*ck em. Can't we just admit as a country that we do not care about school shootings? We do nothing to stop them so it's obvious we've stopped caring. My kids are out of school so not my problem anymore. I could "send thoughts and prayers" on the internet but that involves typin' and whatnot and is tiring.

You're on your own, Kid. Welcome to the jungle...it gets worse here every day.

Am I correct in forum etiquette responding with Axl wrote that?



This just sucks..... What's the answer? How are any gun bans going to prevent this tragedy? If you have guns in your house at all there is a shotgun and .38 at minimum.

There has to be a systematic change to the way we treat each other as a society. If you treat other people like they are beneath you this is the consequence. This type of tragedy it always seems takes years of being an outcast with peers, educators, and parents turning a blind eye.

If kids really don't want this happening at there school walking out won't help. Being nice to the kids that have been picked on since middle school will help. Accepting the kid who is different, whatever that non-normal different in your community is, will help. There is no other answer that I see.

Ever since character education was dropped from the school curriculum years ago and replaced with test taking classes, School violence and school shootings have increased. As long as our society is more concerned about test scores and less concerned about our children, we are going to have more mental health issues that lead to more community and school violence.

The easiest solution which i will always stand behind is not in gun control, banning weapons, mental health blah blah blah. These are all tiny little bandaids. How about a high tech security entrance into the school. Something that can be retrofitted in one day or less, Start putting them together n shipping em out. Similar to an airlock system complete with metal detector, bullet/shatterproof glass.

#18 Gene-

no one living with a solidly normal mind thinks it would be cool to top a previous tragedy. Bullied kids don't always snap but some just don't have the ability to compartmentalize their anguish.

even if you could soft-censor the New York Times et al, I'm gonna guess without any proof that a kid like the one today has not read a major newspaper in his life.
All info comes through his phone...like so many his age.

The phrase "responsible media coverage" actually frightens me. If I had a say so, it sure wouldn't be what Trump would list. But I wouldn't say so...he might.
Opening that soft censor door could lead to colossal unintended repercussions down the road.

Freedom brings risks.
I've been saying this forever.

Secure them like courthouses. Problem solved. But, then the left would have to find something else to be outraged about.

Sounds like improper handling of legal guns led to the death of 10 people.

They should release the shooter.
Execute the owner of the guns... (I believe that is the father). It was his responsibility to make sure they were secure

Perhaps having his father executed in front of him will teach the kid not to go taking his parents guns and shoot up a school.

To be fair tail, we usually continue to initiate new dumb projects to try to combat rape and homelessness on a regular basis. And we are constantly working and trying new things to combat cancer.

What was the last new thing tried to reduce the number of school shootings?

Victor has already stated this, and it's a statement I agree with... this world is a dangerous place.

We can't protect our children 24/7/365. We simply can't. All we can do is teach them, nurture them not to be these filthy animals, and tell them how to deal with these situations should they arise.

It's been said... we've had guns for years, and never had these problems. It is NOT the guns. It's the people. Our society has devolved. Our children do not value life as we did.

I not talking about censorship, I'm talking about reporting vs making a celebrity our of a killer. It's a matter of responsibility. As a gun owner I hold myself to a higher standard of responsibility for the care and use of a firearm, it is a dangerous freedom. There is no reason that should not apply to the new media. There shouldn't any difference in how we treat one Amendment or another.

aw *****ue! here I am ready for a fight and you take the wind outta my wind thing.

Barkeep, hit me.

I just don't get the making of a celebrity part.

kid shoots up a school. I see 3 reports of it on my 3 local outlets.

where are you seeing fabulous where I am seeing tragedy reported? Kids crying. Families crying.
What is the attraction you are seeing that would entice anyone with close to normal thought process?

Trump blames media (kill the messenger). Have you been swept up in this dangerous attack on a very valuable freedom protector because it is not supporting your political leanings?

Major news story, and you think it should be page 4 below the fold?

we both know you are smarter than that.

Shawn, reapply the pillow to Anthony's face.

You heard me. We accept children being gunned down while sitting in classrooms. You may not agree but the evidence is all around us. We accept it and expect it. Humans are very adaptable. We would rather live in the misery we know than try to change it for the paradise we don't. As I said above, I don't think the answers lies in gun bans or metal detectors. Those are very short term "solutions" that won't do much anyway. This kid used a revolver and a shotgun. Are we gonna ban those? Ridiculous. The solution in all this is a deep fundamental change in our society. I'm not smart enough to know exactly what that looks like but I do not believe it will happen in my life time. I think the US is basically f*cked. and THAT is coming from a person that loves his country as much as anyone. or maybe I'm just being cranky and cynical.


as far as cancer, homelessness and rape acceptance? We do. Especially homelessness. We spend Trillions of dollars every year on Foreign Aid, wars, walls, blah, blah, blah and yet we still have kids, Veterans, and Elderly folks, without roofs over their heads, food in their bellies, and no access to medicines they need to live. We shouldn't give a single f*cking nickle to any of this nonsense, until these things no longer exist. Yes, there will always be poverty and the lazy and the halt, but a 6 year old child or an 81 year old woman or an honorably discharged veteran that is out there suffering because of the damage done to him by his service are none of those things. Yet we see them and look away. Do you personally do that? I doubt it. I think you are an honorable man as most of us on here are. But don't kid yourself into thinking that we, as a society at large, don't accept these things. We absolutely do.

MACS... We aren't talking about crafty criminals here.
The kid is simply grabbing his parents guns.

If your own kid is the criminal then your got negligence in raising the kid to be a criminal while having firearms. Negligence in securing firearms against the criminal you keep in your house....

We won't see a change until the parents of these school shooters are forced to take responsibility for raising (and sometimes arming, intentionally or unintentionally) the criminals.

This.

Yeah, but unfortunately overzealous media attention does appeal to sick minds.

It's called the 'media contagion effect'.

http://www.center4research.org/copy-cats-kill/

You're obviously not serious.

Discussions hit every angle from outright banning guns to redefining what "automatic" means to changing laws to age 25, to mandatory fingerprint readers, etc etc etc.

As for cancer? You want to eliminate lung cancer then you need to ban all forms of smoking tobacco.
Ban rape? Mandatory castration ought to do the trick.
Homeless?
Make it illegal to sleep outside. Set up clinics to report to, and hand each person a trash bag and rake for a legal night's sleep.

You get the idea.
There are indeed solutions.
But costs or an assault on rights is bound to be a topic for discussion.

So it brings us back to Jade's post.
I know what he's saying. But it's inaccurate to say we "accept" it simply because we haven't found a reasonable solution.
In fact, it's counter productive.

Or I could have just read what MACS stated.

Accepting something as inevitable is not the same as "acceptance" in the manner you're projecting.

When we tolerate injustices it doesn't mean we accept it. Other than accepting the fact that it might be inevitable.

Wordplay, to be sure. But the distinction is important.