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They are racist towards orange people? Vile yes. Disgusting yes. Hateful (towards trump) maybe (but it’s lame compared to Trumps garbage he’s spewed) Racist no. The difference between bee (who was wrong) and Rosanne is racism.

I bet you don’t know the difference.

Want vile and hateful? Don’t stop at Bee. Look at your presidents comments over the years. Vile yes. Hateful yes. Racist yes.

Ding ding ding we have a wiener.

I’ll apologize about the vile orange comments when Trump completes his long list of apologies he owes.

It’s amazing to me anyone can support trump and pretend to be upset about anything vile or hateful.


Bee was trying to be funny. She wasn’t but the intent was humor. My bigger issue with her is it was intentional. It was taped and they still play it. Humor is often controversial. No issue. But this crossed a line. Not as much as Rosanne but ymmv.

As for my comment to drafter there was no I’ll or mean intent. And drafter knew it. If you don’t get the distinction I can’t help you. You don’t want to.

Rosanne wasn’t trying to be funny. She was attacking. And using racism to support her take.

I know many in here don’t get it. It reminds me of when Sal on the stern show had to apologize for a racist comment but just couldn’t get why it was racist.

Great defense. Trump does it, so I can do it too. Sure sounds like grade school logic. Johnny did it, so can I.

Why are hatefull, vile comments based on race any worse then hatefull, vile comments based on someone's political views? When you speak ill of half of Americans, degrade them, call them stupid and consider their opinions worthless, how is that so much different then racism? They are both based on the same ideology. That someone else is inferior and therefore has less value to society then you do. One based on someone's skin color, the other on someone's political views. You know deep down inside that my analogy is correct, but you'll continue to excuse it away.

Here's something the left doesn't seem to understand. It is possible to hire someone you do not like, to do a job you feel needs to be done. I would venture to say that many Trump supporters do not like the man. I know I don't. Many times I wish he would just shut the frack up. Other times I wish he would resign and allow Pence to take over. The vile things he says degust me, and I'm embarrassed by his childish rants, but I hired him to do a job, not to be someone I emulate or look up to. I know, a very hard concept for the left to wrap their heads around, as many on the left tend to worship their leaders. I personally believe that Obama is a better human being then Trump is, yet I would have Trump as my President over Obama any day.

David

.... seriously?
Being mean to someone based on the color of their skin is just as bad as being mean to someone based on the choices they made?

So I take it you're in the camp of "it's not right to call Nazis bad names"?

why are liberals/the left lumped together for group inabilities? teedub isn't even a liberal!

Without intending to, or even realizing it, we all have some "group" prejudices that allow us (incorrectly) to look down on others.

At least I think so.

Victor, being vile and hateful to someone, is being vile and hateful. To me, it is unacceptable and evil, no matter what the motive. If you want to insist that one is more evil then the other based on motive, well, that's your choice.



Wow! Where did that come from?!!!!!

David (dpnewell)

Well Huck, we will just have to agree to disagree. You wish to catagorize some forms of hatred as worse then others, while I feel all hatred is vile and wicked. I'm not going to change your mind, and you're not going to change mine. Peace out, brother.

David (dpnewell)

Oh, stop your whining, Frank. You already stated that your dad was a Kennedy Democrat, which would make him a conservative in today's world. We know you would like us to believe that you are a liberal, but some of us can see behind the curtain.

David

didn't see 218 when I posted 219.

I take it all back!

How are you not able to see this?

Even your quote above: "being hateful to someone is being vile and hateful. to me it unacceptable and ....etc"
that right there is saying it's not right to be mean to nazis. not criticizing you for it, if you really truly are in the camp of every single human being in this world deserves to be treated nicely, then you're probably a better person than all of us.

(however, based on posts of yours I've seen in the past, I don't think you really adhere to that)

But the logic is unassailable.
If you believe this statement:
"Why are hatefull, vile comments based on race any worse then hatefull, vile comments based on someone's political views?"
Then you believe that saying something hateful about nazis (a political view) is equivalent to saying something hateful about black people, or gays, or anyone.

I am not as good a person as you apparently. I judge people.... daily. If someone says something I believe to be stupid, I judge them as a person who says something stupid. I'll likely say something to them to the effect of "that was stupid".
If someone holds a large number of stupid thoughts in their head, it usually coalesces into a dogmatic political view of equal stupidity.

I believe it is significantly different to judge someone (and point out the judgement) for a believe, or idea they came up with due to an unwillingness to look at information, than it is to judge someone based solely on the color of their skin.

One judgement is based on choices a person has made, ideas they have in their head. The other is based solely on their birth and is something they never had control over.

You appear to find the two things equivalent, and the judgement of each party the same, thus the logical conclusion that you would find bieng mean to nazis as unacceptable too. I don't find it to be equivalent. In fact, I might even judge the decision-making process of people who find them equivalent....

What? You offering to bleach drafter's bunghole?

For those of you who think that as a white man, I have no clue about racism, you couldn't be further from the truth. We lived our entire life in a solid blue county, one that voted over 80% for Obama and 77% for Clinton. My daughters where raised Christian, and where instructed that all people where children of God, and to never judge any one on the color of their skin.

My oldest daughter married an Asian man, and my youngest a Black man, with Donna and my blessing. Our dearly loved grandchildren are bi-racial. My youngest daughter's Father In Law was a pastor of a large black church in Camden, NJ, and a civil rights activist. He had been invited several times to meet with President Obama at the White House. Even though we had polar opposite political views, we got along just fine.

Our youngest daughter was treated with disdain by many of her husband's extended family and friends. The black women especially where angry with her for marrying "one of their" black men. She was treated nasty at family gatherings and when they got together with her husband's friends. Even though her children are very dark, and have strong African American features, they where always considered "the white" grandchildren and shunned by many.

Our in-laws invited us a couple times to special events at their church. Many in the congregation treated us with vile hatred. If looks and actions could kill, we would have been dead. It was as if they where saying "what are these white people doing at OUR church?"

Our oldest daughter also experienced extreme racism from her husband's extended Asian family. Both marriages eventually failed.

In solid blue NJ, our bi-racial grandchildren where treated as outcasts. Blacks wouldn't except them because they where white, and the whites wouldn't accept them because they where black.

Both daughters eventually moved to solid red counties in the "deep racist" south. Counties that voted over 80% for Trump. Surprisingly, in the "racist" south, they where accepted and loved. Most of them have become very popular with their classmates and teachers, and have many friends. Some white, some black, some Hispanic and some bi-racial. The "racist" white southern neighborhoods they live in have also accepted these bi-racial children with open arms.

Strange that my family's personal experience with racism, is the exact opposite of the narrative we are fed every day.

David

This board doesn't allow context.
You must love Samantha Bee.

Still a buncha whiny babies.

Two people say stupid things.
One is held responsible.

And the one held responsible said the stupid thing outside her workplace, while the one NOT held responsible said the stupid things while at work.

It is fruitless to have further discussion with those who can't see the double standard.

That's prolly best... Playing with your vacuum should definitely be alone time...

I do. I love everyone.

From the general tone of your posts it almost seems (to me) that you're skipping around as you type.


You skipping TG?

Seems like her insult did extend to Ivanka's family , when she added that little incestuous jab....or at least that's how I'd take it if someone told me to approach my daughter dressed in a sexually provocative manner to try to manipulate her to do what I wanted.....
and when criminals break laws(illegal aliens are criminals), doesn't the law put their children with other family members while they are incarcerated? And if no family members are available the children go to DCYF facilities?


and weren't you the guy that wanted LIME M&M's?

I'll take your word on that because I'm not looking. 😳

You're right. I "kind of" did.

But green candy? I have zero respect for green candy lovers.

Freaking thread-crosser.

Guilty as charged, but NO sword crossing ....I'm not built for that

Note to self: close the blinds.

Definition of double standard

1 : bimetallism

2 : a set of principles that applies differently and usually more rigorously to one group of people or circumstances than to another; especially : a code of morals that applies more severe standards of sexual behavior to women than to men



And there's no metal in the thread.

Wow.

You never learn.

Ever.

I'm not going to lower myself to your slithering.