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Kid's lost in the Cave..
DrafterX Offline
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So, will they all get bravery badges or kicked in da nuts for being stupid..?? Think
Speyside Offline
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Hope they make it out alive.
rfenst Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Hope they make it out alive.


I cannot understand why they haven't begun drilling a tunnel (as well as teaching them scuba).
MACS Offline
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I'll volunteer to rescue them. All I ask in return is a 2 week vacation in Phuket... or Pattaya Beach.
dstieger Offline
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Good graphic at this link showing the 'path' in/out:

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-what-are-the-options-for-rescuers-11426734

"Thailand cave rescue: What are the options for rescuers?

After the euphoria of finding the boys alive, the practicalities of getting them out are focusing minds, says Sky's Alex Rossi.

There is an optimism and an energy to the rescue operation now, but nobody here is underestimating the challenges that lie ahead.

The euphoria that accompanied Monday's discovery that the boys and their football coach were all alive and well has been tempered by the practical difficulties of getting them out.

A number of plans are in place. None are easy and all are subject to another monsoon deluge forecast for Saturday.


:: Option 1

This involves teaching the boys to dive. Already, in the bowels of the cave complex, they are being given instructions on how to use breathing apparatus with full face masks.

But Sky News has been told that it is fraught with danger.

Even experienced divers would find it extremely challenging, according to those that have been down.

It involves staying underwater for at least 800m, moving through small passages, and being buffeted by debris and currents in complete darkness.

:: Option 2

The next idea is to pump out more water. While water has been extracted for almost two weeks, more powerful pumps have arrived in the last few days.

In some areas, levels have dropped by 40%. In theory, the football team could walk, scramble and dive to safety.

But there are still large parts of the cave complex that are fully submerged.

The big question, therefore, is whether the pumps can make a difference before more rain comes down.

Officials hope the lowered water levels mean the boys could keep their heads above water and not have to rely on scuba apparatus

:: Option 3

This involves bringing the boys and their coach up through the ground.

Rescue teams are looking for "chimneys" they could drill through and expand, allowing the boys to be pulled out with ropes.

It seems a distant and unrealistic scenario, however, because a point at which to start drilling has not yet been established.

It could also be a long job because the group are at least 1km below the surface.

:: Option 4

Leave them where they are. The boys are currently camped and being supplied on a raised section of ground which does not flood at any time of the year.

If the rains begin again before any of the above plans can be enacted, then perhaps it is simply best to wait.

That could mean they are trapped for weeks or even months."
victor809 Offline
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Lucky kids get to do their first cave dive...








.... I think I may just go wander over into some restricted caves in Thailand now....
DrafterX Offline
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Mellow
MACS Offline
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I've been in a few Thai caves... Mellow
victor809 Offline
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... just because those ladyboys could fit a fist in their bunghole doesn't make it a cave....
MACS Offline
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Tee's been absent for a bit. Way to fill in for him and queer it up!
teedubbya Offline
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Hello
victor809 Offline
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Like Macs and a ladyboys gaping hole...

You mention it and he will come....
HuckFinn Offline
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Why not one of those 2 person submarines?
victor809 Offline
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Apparently it's super narrow in some areas. Sounds like they're worried they won't even be able to go side by side
MACS Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Hello


victor809 wrote:
Like Macs and a ladyboys gaping hole...

You mention it and he will come....


You futher muckers... Laugh
ZRX1200 Offline
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So......MACS likes ladyboys, and Victor wants to go after trapped boys in a cave that can't escape.

Sounds about right.

Mellow
victor809 Offline
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... why can't the cave escape?
dstieger Offline
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Maybe z was only speaking.... allegorically
teedubbya Offline
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z sure likes algore
dstieger Offline
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in a purely Platonic way
ZRX1200 Offline
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If I let it slip I wanted to go after some boys I'd deflect too.
victor809 Offline
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... so you're saying you want to go after boys but are afraid you'll let it slip?
delta1 Offline
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I heard that's why the boys fled into the caves in the first place...when Z showed up in answer to their ad in ThaiFunTail, they freaked, knowing Z couldn't fit in their caves...
HuckFinn Offline
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I got it. Problem solved. Send in teenaged girls, cheap whiskey, pizza, diapers and footage of the Trump/Kim Singapore Summit!!

Gonna need to name the cave though....their kids are gonna know where they live
ZRX1200 Offline
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^ probably the closest we've come to agreeing.

A diver has died btw. Showing why it's so hard to "teach them to swim, and dive" to get out.
rfenst Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
A diver has died btw. Showing why it's so hard to "teach them to swim, and dive" to get out.


Long road ahead...
teedubbya Offline
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Then they can drive out.
DrafterX Offline
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They could just put all the kids in a temporary coma then just drag them thru the water... Mellow
bgz Offline
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I guess it's supposed to rain.
DrafterX Offline
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If da levee breaks.. got no place to stay.. Mellow
rfenst Offline
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Two are out! I pray the others make it.
MACS Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Two are out! I pray the others make it.


Four of them, now.
tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Hello


Impeccable timing!

tailgater Offline
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And this story could be the feel good event of the decade.

I'm getting pizzed at my local news when they don't lead with this story.
DrafterX Offline
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So, will coach go down for child endangerment or somethin..?? Huh
Mr. Jones Offline
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How the hell did they get in there in the first place?

Were they "beamed in by Scotty" from the starship enterprise?

Just go out the way they came in?
WTF?
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
So, will coach go down for child endangerment or somethin..?? Huh


I think he should.
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DrafterX wrote:
So, will coach go down for child endangerment or somethin..?? Huh

They will probably just leave him in the cave.....
dstieger Offline
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Not likely. The coach is very highly regarded.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/he-loved-them-more-than-himself-how-a-25-year-old-former-monk-kept-the-thai-soccer-team-alive/2018/07/07/b4100076-815e-11e8-b3b5-b61896f90919_story.html
DrafterX Offline
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I heard Trump called him a moron... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
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That's actually probably true...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
That's actually probably true...

That Trump CALLED the coach a moron, or that the coach IS a moron???Think
DrafterX Offline
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Well, he's a former monk so Trump should be careful about pissing off an entire race again... Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
That Trump CALLED the coach a moron, or that the coach IS a moron???Think

Neither... just that drafter heard it...
RMAN4443 Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Neither... just that drafter heard it...

Drafter does have exceptional hearing...Anxious
danmdevries Offline
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Wasn't this a SouthPark episode?
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Kinda... that one was al gores fault... this one is Maxine waters fault i think...
delta1 Offline
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prolly Maxine's fault cuz Gore warned them about global warming, climate change and rising water levels...

Maxine told them to go look for peeps to confront, and they saw some folks with red caps heading into the cave.
DrafterX Offline
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Those were prolly Trogs... Mellow
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From the linked site:

https://news.sky.com/story/thailand-cave-rescue-how-the-boys-were-found-11424201

After a football practice on Saturday 23 June, 12 young players and their "Wild Boars" team coach entered the 10km (6 mile) Tham Luang cave complex in Chiang Rai province, northern Thailand.

When they failed to return home, a huge search operation was launched, with rescuers facing a race against time to find them as heavy rain battered the region and flooded parts of the cave.

After 10 days, they were found weak but alive and planning for their rescue began. Here is how the events unfolded.
...

The young team, known as the Wild Boars, became trapped when a heavy rainstorm flooded a stream at the cave's entrance.

Bicycles and football boots belonging to the boys are found near the entrance of the cave.

The search begins at about midnight after police receive a report of a missing child from a mother who says her son has not returned from football practice.
...

They are believed to have entered the Tham Luang Nang Non cave in Chiang Rai province.

[There was no confirmation of their planned route? No mention of any record existing of where they had planned to go or when they planned to return. Maybe (seems likely) they had NO PLAN. It seems this was not a planned cave exploration but instead was some kind of impromptu or spontaneous quick peek into these vast caves of known peril, but what it could have had to do with FOOTBALL PRACTICE nobody seems to be able to say. . . None of the boys' families or parents have said that they had given permission for this cave hike to take place. If this had been in America someone, maybe a number of people, would be in a LOT of trouble!

The coach is obviously the responsible party, and the world is going to want to know whether he had been personally familiar with this particular cave, and whether he was aware that the approaching rain storm could have made for hazardous conditions in the cave. The boy's football shoes and bicycles were found near the cave entrance, so it certainly appears like a totally spontaneous blunder for them to have gone inside the cave.]



28 June
British divers join rescue
Three cave diving experts from Britain fly to Chiang Rai province to help the search, five days after their disappearance.

Richard William Stanton, Robert Charles Harper and John Volanthen enter the cave in full kit before emerging an hour later.

... [There is a video on the site of the moment when the British rescue worker first found the boys. Trivia question: how can you tell a Brit wrote this article? Answer: because he calls the flashlight "torchlight."]

Torchlight shows the frail-looking boys sitting on a muddy bank inside the cave, with water between them and the rescue party.

The British rescuer, who has not yet been named, is thought to be either Richard William Stanton or John Volanthen.

3 July
Boys must learn to dive, military says
The Thai military says the boys could be given enough food to last four months while they are taught to dive.

According to a statement from Thailand's Armed Forces, navy Captain Anand Surawan said: "(We will) prepare to send additional food to be sustained for at least four months and train all 13 to dive while continuing to drain the water."

Caving experts warn that having the boys attempt to dive out themselves could be extremely dangerous, with "significant technical challenges".

4 July
Plans coming together for rescue
The boys and their coach are having their fitness evaluated daily and will be rescued in stages depending on their health, a Thai official says.

"All 13 may not come out at the same time. If the condition is right and if that person is ready 100%, he can come out," says Narongsak Osatanakorn, the Chiang Rai provincial governor.

5 July
Water is pumped out of the cave to prepare for rescue
The rescue preparation begins with water being pumped out of the flooded cave, rescuers running against the clock to beat monsoon rains.

Water levels are reduced by around 40% but some parts of the passageway needed to rescue the boys are still completely impassable. This leaves diving out as the only survival option.

6 July
Thai diver dies trying to save the group

Saman Gunan was an ex Thai Navy diver

Image address: https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/992x558/skynews-thailand-cave-diver_4354460.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180708141841

Saman Gunan was an ex Thai Navy diver

A former Navy SEAL diver Saman Gunan dies while taking part in the mission to rescue the boys, who are trapped 2.5 miles within the cave network.

Mr Gunan had been working as a volunteer during an overnight mission in which he had been delivering oxygen canisters in the Tham Luang cave system, according to authorities.

He died on the way back to safety but fellow divers say they remain determined to complete the rescue.

7 July
Boys write letters home
The boys write notes to their parents about what is happening. They talk about the family members they love. Some apologise, others say not to worry.

They also look to the future, one reminding his parents about his upcoming birthday party and another saying he wants to go for fried chicken when he gets home.

8 July
Operation to bring boys out begins
Authorities say the operation to bring the 12 boys and their coach out of the cave has begun in the early morning and that by 3pm BST they expect the first to emerge.

But by mid-afternoon UK time the first four are out of the cave and receiving medical treatment.
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