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Gene363 Offline
#1 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 11:35 AM EST
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In secret meetings of California democratic party they are planning to abandon blacks in favor of illegals. As blacks attain financial parity in the US, they are walking away for the democrat party. This trend seriously undermines the ability of the part to deliver votes.
delta1 Offline
#2 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:06 PM EST
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maybe...but as long as Trump pushes the far right agenda and supports white nationalism, blacks may not get up from kneeling and run into the GOP/Trump party's embrace...

The GOP did an autopsy after 2012, and listed expanding their tent to include Blacks, Latinos and women...a playbook that Trump put in the trashbin...
MACS Offline
#3 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:18 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
maybe...but as long as Trump pushes the far right agenda and supports white nationalism, blacks may not get up from kneeling and run into the GOP/Trump party's embrace...

The GOP did an autopsy after 2012, and listed expanding their tent to include Blacks, Latinos and women...a playbook that Trump put in the trashbin...


What? Please explain to me how Trump is supporting white supremacy or white nationalism.
delta1 Offline
#4 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:23 PM EST
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there were good people on both sides...
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:29 PM EST
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Interesting... Our citizens won't elect us so let's go find someone who will... Immigration and voting laws be damned... Mellow
bgz Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:30 PM EST
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Incessantly saying stupid sh1t doesn't imply KKK member.

Look at me, I'm constantly saying stupid messed up sh1t, nobody accuses me of being a white nationalist :D
DrafterX Offline
#7 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:31 PM EST
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I believe the phrase was bad peoples on both sides... But let's spin it.. they mean exactly the same thing right.... Mellow
rfenst Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:40 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
In secret meetings of California democratic party they are planning to abandon blacks in favor of illegals. As blacks attain financial parity in the US, they are walking away for the democrat party. This trend seriously undermines the ability of the part to deliver votes.


Where is the proof that this statement is even true? Citation please...
DrafterX Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:46 PM EST
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I read it on da internets.. Mellow
rfenst Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 1:47 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I read it on da internets.. Mellow


Oh, well then...
RMAN4443 Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 2:17 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Where is the proof that this statement is even true? Citation please...

Drafter told me...
bgz Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 2:26 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Where is the proof that this statement is even true? Citation please...


Ya, I heard it from Drafter too...

He always speaks truth.
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 2:26 PM EST
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No way man ... Not talking
DrMaddVibe Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 2:36 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
there were good people on both sides...



One party supports Life...another supports "choice", which is death.

That's like saying the Nazis threw a good birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese.
Gene363 Offline
#15 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 2:57 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I read it on da internets.. Mellow


I did too, from a well know person that wanted to remain anonymous so I said "secret meetings" man, now everyone is going to know. OhMyGod
delta1 Offline
#16 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 2:59 PM EST
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they're rapists, murderers, drug dealers, MS 13....

total and complete ban on all Muslims coming into US...

refusal to denounce David Duke and the KKK...

He's a Mexican, he can't be fair...

We need more people from Norway...not those s*ithole countries...

3,000 dark-skinned children separated from their families, and only a few re-united a few weeks after saying they would be easy to re-unite...
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:05 PM EST
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How long did it take Obama to reunite the families he separated..?? Huh

And don't forget, North Korea hasn't de-nuked after 3 weeks.. Trump musta lied to us about that too... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#18 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:12 PM EST
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don't know how long, but Obama did not INTENTIONALLY separate children and move them to different facilities, far away from their detained parents, nor did he deport some parents while keeping their children detained and losing track of where the parents are...or destroy identification documents that would help re-unite families...

It's almost like the philosophy was "these are invasive aliens, not people...and we are going to teach them a lesson so that they and those like them won't even think of coming to our country...we'll take their most loved objects, their kids, from them, and make no effort to identify them so they won't be re-united"


Heartless...ruthless... part of his nationalism first agenda...
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:19 PM EST
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imagine traveling to a foreign country with your wife and kids, being robbed of your identification papers, and when driving across the border, you are detained because of lack of ID/passports...

the border agents take your kids and transfer them to a separate facility and won't tell you where they are nor will they let them talk to you...this continues for weeks, and when you ask where your kids are, the border agents of this foreign country respond, "I don't know and I don't care, here's a phone number you can call" but you don't have access to a phone...how would you rate your treatment by this foreign country?
delta1 Offline
#20 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:20 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
How long did it take Obama to reunite the families he separated..?? Huh

And don't forget, North Korea hasn't de-nuked after 3 weeks.. Trump musta lied to us about that too... Mellow



There is photographic evidence that they are ramping up their nuclear production facilities...
DrafterX Offline
#21 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:20 PM EST
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Who made the law..?? All Trump did is enforce it...


And how many crackhead parents have their kids taken away day... No outrage for those kids..?? Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#22 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:23 PM EST
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Democrats were all for booting out illegals, kids and all until they started losing their favorite victims, the black vote. Now they are losing that to jobs and prosperity and they disparately need another crisis class they can manipulate for votes without ever actually helping them, again, like the black voters.
delta1 Offline
#23 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:34 PM EST
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d'oh! Not talking
delta1 Offline
#24 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 3:38 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Who made the law..?? All Trump did is enforce it...


And how many crackhead parents have their kids taken away day... No outrage for those kids..?? Mellow


the crackheads know where their kids are (sent to an authorized caretaker family member or friend, or in a foster home), if they cared, and their kids could visit them every day, or call, every day, if they cared.

That's the standard our laws say we should follow in ensuring the safety and security of the children of criminals in custody.
bgz Offline
#25 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 4:44 PM EST
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Well, when a party constantly over promises and delivers nothing but scraps, why would they keep voting for them?
delta1 Offline
#26 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 4:49 PM EST
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true...but I don't see them flocking to the GOP, the party that ended the Voting Rights Act after originally opposing it decades ago, passed restrictive voter laws, including voter ID's, contorted district boundaries to dilute minority votes...
ZRX1200 Offline
#27 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 5:27 PM EST
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Must be that racist record low black unemployment they hate. There's more woke black folks that know wassup with the eugenics lovin left.
MACS Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 6:29 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
there were good people on both sides...


Careful of the pits in those cherries you're picking. A single statement means he supports white nationalism?

C'mon, Al. RollEyes
MACS Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 6:36 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
they're rapists, murderers, drug dealers, MS 13.... some of them are...

total and complete ban on all Muslims coming into US... that's an outright lie, and you know it.

refusal to denounce David Duke and the KKK... Refusal to denounce is not support

He's a Mexican, he can't be fair... On the subject of illegals from Mexico... can you blame him?

We need more people from Norway...not those s*ithole countries... Name me a country in Africa that isn't a sh*thole?

3,000 dark-skinned children separated from their families, and only a few re-united a few weeks after saying they would be easy to re-unite... 6,000 parents who shouldn't have broken our immigration laws.
delta1 Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 6:38 PM EST
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...if he isn't a white nationalist, he seems to do and say a lot of stuff that white nationalists approve...

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/15/543463673/trumps-fuzzy-history-of-denouncing-white-nationalism

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html


Here's a video of Trump calling for a complete ban of Muslims into the US...

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-calls-for-total-and-complete-shutdown-of-muslims-entering-the-u-s-581768771855?v=a


you're entitled to your perspective, based on your experiences, your belief in Trump and his agenda and how you want the President to be perceived, which is certainly one way to look at Trump's tendencies...


there are other, just as legitimate, perspectives, based on actual verifiable facts, truth about the man and what he's done and said over his lifetime...
gummy jones Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 7:23 PM EST
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He tried to sneak that "white nationalism" right by
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 7:28 PM EST
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Could be worse... Hillary could be President... Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 7:44 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Could be worse... Hillary could be President... Mellow


Amen, amen, AMEN!
bgz Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 7:54 PM EST
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Well, for those arguing Trump is a racist... that might be true. He was a rich democrat for most his professional life.

Emphasis on rich democrat, not your normal run of the mill voter.
HuckFinn Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 7:55 PM EST
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After Trump made his "good people on both sides, both sides" statement in Charlottesville, David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader, wrote in a Twitter post shortly thereafter

“Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth,” David Duke.

Neo-Nazis, alt-right, kkk, ...all part of his base. They're more than happy to openly support him.

Shouldn't he disenvow them unambiguously? Of course not. He needs their support.

RMAN4443 Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:11 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Could be worse... Hillary could be President... Mellow

That's what she thought..d'oh!
DrafterX Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:22 PM EST
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And again the Good People on both sides is being used... It never happened.. but keep telling the lies and maybe it'll go into a middle school text book soon... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:27 PM EST
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Direct quote

“Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. ... You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people—on both sides.”
DrafterX Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:30 PM EST
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“I think there is blame on both sides,” the president said in a combative exchange with reporters at Trump Tower in Manhattan. “You had a group on one side that was bad. You had a group on the other side that was also very violent. Nobody wants to say that. I’ll say it right now.”

Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:31 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Direct quote

“Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. ... You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people—on both sides.”

so, your saying there were no "very fine people" on either side?
HuckFinn Offline
#41 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:36 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
so, your saying there were no "very fine people" on either side?

There are no fine Neo-Nazis

People protesting Neo-Nazis? Based on that, solely? All fine people.
RMAN4443 Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:38 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
There are no fine Neo-Nazis

People protesting Neo-Nazis? Based on that, solely? All fine people.

Yeah,some of them looked like Obama....they could have been his kids...
HuckFinn Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:42 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Yeah,some of them looked like Obama....they could have been his kids...

One thing at a time. Let's stay on message.

So are you saying there are some fine Neo-Nazis?
RMAN4443 Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:47 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
One thing at a time. Let's stay on message.

So are you saying there are some fine Neo-Nazis?

NOPE!!!!!, I looked.... I don't see where I said that.....
DrafterX Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:49 PM EST
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The Fine people quote came 3 days after the initial comments were criticized heavily for telling the truth... there were bad people on both sides but that didn't fit the Statue Killers desired appearance.. Trump is Trump and says stupid stuff no doubt... But if he wasn't forced to back peddle and his original quote was left alone you wouldn't have the still twisted talking point being used 50 times a day... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 8:57 PM EST
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Apparently the original quote should have said both sides showed up wearing black and carrying baseball bats and chains but only one side was bad... Mellow
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#47 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 9:06 PM EST
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What does looking like Obama's kids have to do with anything?

Trump said there were good people on both sides. Who were the good people on the white supremacists side?
DrafterX Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 9:07 PM EST
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Laugh

One more time won't hurt I guess...
HuckFinn Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 9:17 PM EST
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This is such bullchit

You're all mincing words.

Mac says there's NO EVIDENCE that Trump supports white nationalism or supremacy even while these groups openly support him! And he doesn't disavow them! Just bullchit.
So what that he doesn't endorse them? Not telling them where to get off should tell you all you need to know.

Noone can straight up say there are no and cannot be 'fine' Neo-Nazis. Interesting.

Truth be told, if you accept that Trump is okay with alt-right, kkk and Nazis I'd respect you more for admitting that than *****footing around.

It he would be refreshing to hear one of yas say straight up say 'so what'.
RMAN4443 Offline
#50 Posted: Sun, Jul 8 2018, 9:18 PM EST
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Speyside wrote:
What does looking like Obama's kids have to do with anything?

Trump said there were good people on both sides. Who were the good people on the white supremacists side?

Exactly! Makes as much sense now as when Obama said it...
I don't know,I never said there were any good people on the white supremacists side, I saw "some really bad people" on both sides....even on Huck's "team", you know what I'm talking about...

twisting my words won't get you anywhere...
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