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Still tweeting like an angry teenage girl...
victor809 Offline
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... get off the plane and turn on my wireless to see this... Our moron president making an official statement in all caps like a raging idiot on 4chan or an oldan who hasn't learned how to use the internet....

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!
8:24 PM · Jul 22, 2018

DrafterX Offline
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Should we have sent another pallet of 2 billion dollars instead..?? Huh
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I have to think that somewhere between returning their money and threatening violence and death tweets there is a better way...
HuckFinn Offline
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His popularity numbers are rising daily.
Whatever it is he's doing and tweeting, 45% of Americans approve.

His base is growing. 80 something % of republicans approve.

Whatever it is the left and media are doing and saying is not having the desired effect.
Seems it might actually be helping him.
Speyside Offline
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Not worth raising my blood pressure over. They threatened us he threatened them. I agree with Frank.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Rouhani is an animal.... about time someone told him to shut up... obama licked the guys butthole so he thinks America is soft... if Obama hadn't been such a p*ssy we wouldn't have to have a president who's such a jerk...
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And did anyone even look to see what rouhani was saying to draw such scorn from potus?
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frankj1 wrote:
I have to think that somewhere between returning their money and threatening violence and death tweets there is a better way...


Applause
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Frank, I'd love to hear what you or buckwheat think that way is and why you think it would possibly work on someone like rouhani...
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Israel is the great Zionist Satan.

Saying 'Death to America' is easy. We need to express 'Death to America' with action. Saying it is easy.

Syria has constantly been on the front line of fighting Zionism and this resistance must not be weakened.

Today, this festering Zionist tumor has opened once again & has turned the land of olives into destruction and blood and littered the land with the body parts of Palestinian children.

victor809 Offline
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Opel... Even if you want a strong response... This isn't one.

Tweeting in all caps on Twitter is the epitome of ineffectual. It makes him look like nothing more than a blowhard. Think of the people here who may go on an angry nonsensical rant in all caps... And tell me that it does anything more than make them look like idiots...

If he's going to do something, fine... But this is just embarrassing.
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He looks like that to you... the people of iran and rouhani are definitely shaken by it... they're not thinking "childish man with his childish words"... they're thinking "crazy man with crazy words and crazy big nukes...

Iran is the enemy of America, not the potus... be American...
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Opel, why do you hate the Jewish people. All of the middle east will only be happy when Israel no longer exists. Perhaps there is a logical reason for Israel to counter attack. Since they are more effective than the PLO, Hamas, et al there will be more collateral damage. The Palestinians shoot rockets into Israel, what would you have them do? Wait there to die?
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And what was all the bitchin and moanin about recently, in regards to potus turning on our allies? And now, when he takes a hard stand for our most imperiled ally, he's regarded as an idiot... i guess i don't blame him for not giving a crap what dems think...
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Speyside wrote:
Opel, why do you hate the Jewish people. All of the middle east will only be happy when Israel no longer exists. Perhaps there is a logical reason for Israel to counter attack. Since they are more effective than the PLO, Hamas, et al there will be more collateral damage. The Palestinians shoot rockets into Israel, what would you have them do? Wait there to die?

Um... those were rouhani quotes d'oh!
Speyside Offline
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I missed your first line in 10. I have no problem with his text. My agreement with Frank is a middle ground would be best. Reality dictates that won't happen.
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'Be American'.. Laugh
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
He looks like that to you... the people of iran and rouhani are definitely shaken by it... they're not thinking "childish man with his childish words"... they're thinking "crazy man with crazy words and crazy big nukes...

Iran is the enemy of America, not the potus... be American...

Definately shaken? Where did you that from? You know what they're thinking?
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Do you?
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Frank, I'd love to hear what you or buckwheat think that way is and why you think it would possibly work on someone like rouhani...


Opel. I don't claim to have the answers but I find it hard to ignore that Iran and its neighbors with backing from time to time from the west have been fighting with each other for close to 5,000 years and clearly it hasn't worked for anyone involved. Wars just create more wars.

You know as well as any of us that Trump isn't going to use nukes first. If he did it would be his and our county's end. fog
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HuckFinn wrote:
Definately shaken? Where did you that from? You know what they're thinking?



Put it this way, if you were a whiny little brat that mouthed off constantly without correction, and then suddenly an unhinged adult with an AR showed up and said "mouth off one more time and I'm gonna shoot you with this gun", i don't have to be you or talk to you to know what's going through your head... or to knows what's running down your leg...
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Buckwheat wrote:
Opel. I don't claim to have the answers but I find it hard to ignore that Iran and its neighbors with backing from time to time from the west have been fighting with each other for close to 5,000 years and clearly it hasn't worked for anyone involved. Wars just create more wars.

You know as well as any of us that Trump isn't going to use nukes first. If he did it would be his and our county's end. fog



We've dropped them before and we're still standing... if rouhani were to threaten the use of nukes, the bomb would drop from our side first and we'd be better for having done it...

You're right about 5000 years of war with no resolve... time to try something new i say...
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Opel... You just described trump... Are you saying he peed himself accidentally this time?
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I said nothing of an accident...
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Seriously Victor, if - in the war of words - you think trump comes out looking more childish than rouhani, you need to brush up on your rouhani quotes...our president would be considered an elite mensa member compared to the words of rouhani...
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... that's not a strong argument Opel.
I don't want a president who looks less childish than a known strongarm dictator.

That's not the bar the American president is supposed to be measured against.

If we allow him to be just as immature as any 3rd world crackpot we will be a 3rd world country, led by a 3rd world crackpot.

He is supposed to respond to this stuff in a manner that the leader of a 1st world nation responds. With appropriately reviered statements, through appropriate diplomatic channels. When he decides it's time to blow them up, he will get authorization through the appropriate methods as set by our laws.

Nowhere in diplomacy does it say "rage tweet like a teenager who just got her date stolen by another girl"....
victor809 Offline
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Reviered=reviewed... Don't know what's up with autocorrect
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I see... you want trump to be an Obama style p*ssy... not gonna happen... rouhani still festers because of Obama style pussiness....

Remember when iran kidnapped American sailors under Obama's watch and Obama did nothing but lick butthole? I don't say this as my opinion... payback is coming for the country of iran in the form of a major offensive attack... and this is trumps way - by showing how aggressive Iran's leaders are towards America - of drumming up American support... and i have no problem with that...
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HuckFinn wrote:
Definately shaken? Where did you that from? You know what they're thinking?


This type of response is weak.
During a conversation people will say things that they feel.
It doesn't imply any mind-reading.

Maybe not weak.
Lazy and stupid.

victor809 Offline
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...Opel... Don't be ridiculous. There is a multitude of solutions beyond the two you have identified.

There are an enormous number of permutations which could include being both dignified and strong.

Hell... I would have likely been less embarrassed if he just ordered an air strike every time Iran said something, rather than his emotional little outburst.... As long as he went through the appropriate channels and followed our procedures.

You're allowing yourself to be forced into thinking in a binary way. We aren't constrained by the two solutions we have most recently seen.
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Nobody ever thinks about the separated childrens anymore... Sad
tailgater Offline
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victor809 wrote:
... that's not a strong argument Opel.
I don't want a president who looks less childish than a known strongarm dictator.

That's not the bar the American president is supposed to be measured against.

If we allow him to be just as immature as any 3rd world crackpot we will be a 3rd world country, led by a 3rd world crackpot.

He is supposed to respond to this stuff in a manner that the leader of a 1st world nation responds. With appropriately reviered statements, through appropriate diplomatic channels. When he decides it's time to blow them up, he will get authorization through the appropriate methods as set by our laws.

Nowhere in diplomacy does it say "rage tweet like a teenager who just got her date stolen by another girl"....


What do you care?
You'd hate on Trump even if he weren't tweeting like an angry teenage girl.

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Oh... So if I hate him now, I'm not allowed to be irritated every time he does something new that's disgraceful?

That's a lazy and stupid argument.
DrafterX Offline
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So, being getting emotional and stuff is a good thing..?? Huh
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victor809 wrote:
...Opel... Don't be ridiculous. There is a multitude of solutions beyond the two you have identified.

There are an enormous number of permutations which could include being both dignified and strong.

Hell... I would have likely been less embarrassed if he just ordered an air strike every time Iran said something, rather than his emotional little outburst.... As long as he went through the appropriate channels and followed our procedures.

You're allowing yourself to be forced into thinking in a binary way. We aren't constrained by the two solutions we have most recently seen.

You might be less embarrassed, but the media would have a field day... the way to avoid that is to bring your fight to the public, get them on your side, and then attack...

and there are certainly a near infinite number of ways this situation can be dealt with... but one has happened - obama being Iran's butt licker - and another is about to happen - trump turning iran into the surface of the moon.... i like to keep my conversations rooted in reality...
DrafterX Offline
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Just be thankful he doesn't use those silly emoticons things.. Mellow
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
We've dropped them before and we're still standing... if rouhani were to threaten the use of nukes, the bomb would drop from our side first and we'd be better for having done it...

You're right about 5000 years of war with no resolve... time to try something new i say...

Seems you'd be okay with a ww3. For what exactly?

What did Einstein say ...'I don't know how ww3 will be fought, but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones'

Nuking is insanity. Period. Besides being suicidal.
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Maybe.....the Nobel for peace with NK is fading fast...Trump might be feeling the need for a new Axis of Evil member to threaten and then shake hands with....especially one that he might be able to get Putin to help him with
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victor809 wrote:
Oh... So if I hate him now, I'm not allowed to be irritated every time he does something new that's disgraceful?

That's a lazy and stupid argument.


But you follow his tweets ONLY so you can complain about them.

Maybe not lazy, but definitely insane.



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Opel... Screaming over Twitter like a little girl is not how you get the public on your side. Unless the public is made up of a Jr high.
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Tail. His tweets are official statements from the office of the president.

Your argument is now that "if something that the president of your country does something you don't like... Don't pay attention to it"...?

You should try retroactively applying all these nonsensical arguments to Obama... This forum would have been a lot quieter during those years. But if you recall, no one suggested that they just don't listen to him... Or suggested that since you don't like him, it doesn't matter that you're going to be irritated by something new he does
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No, the people who hate his tweets will always hate his tweets and those who don't never will... he has nothing to lose on that front...

But the media will report on it... and as a byproduct they'll be reporting on the raving lunacy of rouhani... and once the country see's that lunacy and vitriol and violent intent directed at the American people, compassion towards Iran will be close to zero... and then we bomb their land... and then we let the Saudis have their oil...

#probablyshouldntkidnapamericansailors
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HuckFinn wrote:
Seems you'd be okay with a ww3. For what exactly?

What did Einstein say ...'I don't know how ww3 will be fought, but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones'

Nuking is insanity. Period. Besides being suicidal.


Einstein is also believed by many to have said "Insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results"

So although I am not in favor of nuking , it is also not insanity.
But sitting back and doing our same old nothing actually IS insanity.

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Trump gets berated for not talking tough with Russia....Trump gets berated for talking tough with Iran...Think

Like I've said before, Trump could cure Cancer today and people would "Bitch and Moan"(like a couple of dogs) that he didn't cure it last week...Not talking
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victor809 wrote:
Tail. His tweets are official statements from the office of the president.

Your argument is now that "if something that the president of your country does something you don't like... Don't pay attention to it"...?

You should try retroactively applying all these nonsensical arguments to Obama... This forum would have been a lot quieter during those years. But if you recall, no one suggested that they just don't listen to him... Or suggested that since you don't like him, it doesn't matter that you're going to be irritated by something new he does


What's your point?
I don't like his tweets. I know it's "official".
And I'm not telling to you to ignore it completely.

But you don't have any objectivity with this President, yet you hang on his every tweet.
That makes you a whiny little schoolgirl.



victor809 Offline
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.... There you go with a strawman argument Rman... (Should we call them rman arguments?)

Who said trump shouldn't be talking tough?

In what world is an all caps rage tweet "talking tough"? (Hint.. if you think a dumb 280 character tweet written in all.caps is "tough" you've spent too much time on social media)...

WTF is wrong with our country when a tweet like this from the president is anything other than embarrassing??

1- president's shouldn't be tweeting anything other than links to official statements (I believed this when Obama was president as well)
2- if they do tweet, it should be in a manner that conveys the gravitas of an official Presidential statement. It should not sound like one of the dumber posters on a cigar forum.
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Ok tail.tell me in your super objective view... How is this not embarrassing?

If you don't like people reading, then assessing the president's tweets as embarrassing, then elect a president who doesn't generate them.
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And tail... I'm going to point out every time that this moron tweets something embarrassing and stupid.

Because a group of people out there decided that electing this moron was a good idea.

His stupidity and immaturity needs to be discussed. Because we elected a president who is stupid and immature.
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President Donald Trump told Iran to stop threatening the US or it would suffer historically epic consequences.
Trump was responding to a statement by Iran's president, Hassan Rouhani.
Rouhani described a potential conflict with the US as "the mother of all wars" but also offered a vision of peace.

Trump's administration has visibly begun a campaign to undermine Iran's theocratic regime, and it looks as if it could work.

President Donald Trump shot down a veiled vision of peace offered by Iran's president on Sunday to full-on threaten the Islamic Republic with historically epic confrontation — and it looks as if his administration could topple the country.

"To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE," Trump tweeted.

"WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS!" he continued.

Trump was responding to statements from Rouhani, Iran's elected political leader who serves at the pleasure of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the country's religious supreme leader.


In a meeting with Iranian diplomats, Rouhani offered a vision of peace with the US but also said a conflict between the two would be "the mother of all wars."

According to Reuters, he said: "America should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace, and war with Iran is the mother of all wars."

Rouhani's statement, though balanced against the threat of massive war, actually represents a shift in Iranian foreign policy.

Iran has strongly opposed the US since its theocratic government took power in 1979, with officials chanting "death to America" in parliament. Iran's navy has the explicit, though lofty, operational goal of destroying the US Navy.

Rouhani, in extending a veiled olive branch, may have been acting in anticipation of an onslaught by Trump.


A new report from Reuters suggests Trump's administration has launched a campaign designed to topple Iran's leaders.

Several officials told Reuters that Trump would pressure Iran's leaders with tough sanctions and an information campaign meant to erode their support.

Recent statements from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo indicate this shift has already taken place, as the US expresses its hope for the Iranian people to install a more moderate, secular government.

Iranian women rejecting the forced dress code of headscarves have become emblematic of the movement.

While European countries strongly opposed Trump's withdrawal of the US from the Iran nuclear deal, the threat of US sanctions has successfully made Tehran a pariah in the business world.

After Trump's withdrawal, Iran's currency ballooned and the government imposed a set of strict financial controls on its citizens, capping the amount of foreign currency they can hold and seizing overseas accounts.

As Iran's working class rejects the government's foreign-policy ambitions, the upper class has had its aspirations of foreign travel or education crushed by such financial restrictions. Iran's government has responded to protests with security forces and violence time and time again, but the unrest has continued on a regular basis this year.

At the same time, Israel has proved adept at beating back Iran in its push toward the Mediterranean. In May, after a rocket attack that Israel attributed to Iran, Israeli jets devastated a large swath of Iranian forces in Syria.

Russia, normally a powerful ally of Iran, swiftly turned its back on Tehran, refusing to sell it air defenses even when its forces were coming under heavy fire from Israel and telling Iran's militias to leave Syria.

Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace think tank, told Reuters that Trump's strategy could produce one of two outcomes.

"Outcome one is capitulation, forcing Iran to further curtail not only its nuclear program but also its regional ambitions," Sadjadpour said. "Outcome two is the implosion of the Islamic Republic."

The US maintains it does not seek regime change for any country, even those as antagonistic as Iran and North Korea.

But the people of Iran have shown a genuine distaste for the theocracy's policies, and the noted Iran hawks Pompeo and John Bolton, the national security adviser, may see the opportunity as too good to pass up.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-confronts-iran-with-fire-and-fury-approach-may-topple-regime-2018-7
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victor809 wrote:
.... There you go with a strawman argument Rman... (Should we call them rman arguments?)

Who said trump shouldn't be talking tough?

In what world is an all caps rage tweet "talking tough"? (Hint.. if you think a dumb 280 character tweet written in all.caps is "tough" you've spent too much time on social media)...

WTF is wrong with our country when a tweet like this from the president is anything other than embarrassing??

1- president's shouldn't be tweeting anything other than links to official statements (I believed this when Obama was president as well)
2- if they do tweet, it should be in a manner that conveys the gravitas of an official Presidential statement. It should not sound like one of the dumber posters on a cigar forum.


I've said in the past, Trump says and does stupid things.....I think they should take away his Twitter account or at least monitor his tweets before they post...


I feel thoroughly chastised by your superior intellectual capacity....I don't know how I could have thought you were wrong....your a legend in your own mind....you do seem to suffer from the same personality traits you rail against in TrumpNot talking
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