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Still tweeting like an angry teenage girl...
teedubbya Offline
#51 Posted:
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I always laughed when feckless leaders ranted and raved from the likes of Iran, Libya, Iraq etc. it was even better when the likes of Baghdad Bob went crazy. It’s about time we have a local version to laugh at. Why should the rest of the world have all the fun. Internet and twitter tough guys are cool....their bone spurs don’t get in the way of actually doing something.

IMITATION IS A FORM OF FLATTERY. WE MAY AS WELL COPY RATHER THAN LEAD.

Also now he can come back a few days later and “fix” things following his Trumphausen by proxy and the trumpwalkers and those who have caught orangeescale will rejoice.
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted:
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Think
How many tweets does Victor get everyday from angry teenage girls anyways... Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
#53 Posted:
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Is this the outrage du jour?

Seems like every damn time someone gets their panties in a wad Trump gets proven to be a genius again.

Time and again.

Maybe its time to actually back the guy instead of the deep state trying to tear it all down. The track record isn't in your favor.

Seems like the ones doing the most crying are the ones that miss the guy with the preachy lisp and the hinge at his waist. We all saw where that took America. Flying pallets of cash, caving in to a 7th Century theocracy bred from hatred and intolerance and giving them the green light for unfettered nuclear armament .

So, when is the next faux outrage rally kicking off?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#54 Posted:
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Tw, nothing trump has said comes close to the ranting and raving of leaders from the middle East... there's no comparison.... why you would laugh at a very serious statement made by the leader of the worlds most kick ass army, i have no idea... i guarantee you rouhani aint laughing...
Speyside Offline
#55 Posted:
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Iran has hated us since the removal of the Shah of Iran from power. From time to time they issue idiotic threats. Trump responded in kind. Was it very presidential? No, of course not. Did it hurt us in some way? No, of course not. As everyone here should know he says/does things that I strongly disagree with and will argue about until the cows come home. Is this one of them? No, of course not. This is arguing for the sake of stirring the pot.

Diplomacy in the middle east does not work. Just ask the Israelis. Another rant by Trump changes nothing in the eyes of the world. I think ranting about everything he says has no particular value. This is what the right did with Obama and Hillary and it made their positions less believable to me, even when their point was valid.
victor809 Offline
#56 Posted:
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All this would have required is short bus McOrange to simply tell his staff that he wants to make a strong, anti-rouhani statement. Set up a little press time, read a prepared statement which says something reasonable, measured, and as tough as he and his advisors decided was merited.

Let the weaker countries rant and rave on social media like morons.

This doesn't make him look strong.
No one has ever read a tweet on Twitter that makes them think "wow! That person is super strong and tough!"... It's f-king Twitter..
RMAN4443 Offline
#57 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
All this would have required is short bus McOrange to simply tell his staff that he wants to make a strong, anti-rouhani statement. Set up a little press time, read a prepared statement which says something reasonable, measured, and as tough as he and his advisors decided was merited.

Let the weaker countries rant and rave on social media like morons.

This doesn't make him look strong.
No one has ever read a tweet on Twitter that makes them think "wow! That person is super strong and tough!"... It's f-king Twitter..

but yet here you are starting a thread on social media, ranting and raving like a weaker country moron...?????Not talking
bgz Offline
#58 Posted:
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You can't reason with people that believe everyone else other than themselves should either submit or die (islam literally means submit or surrender).

Too many resources are wasted on dealing with people with a mentality trapped in the dark ages.

The world should simply put a world wide ban on Islam anywhere Islam is not the law of the land, then just sanction the sh1t out of any country that doesn't follow suit.

If people want to immigrate, they would have to agree to leave Islam behind.

Give them the same option they would give everyone else... submit or die... or simply just be left behind as the world evolves around them, continuously closing them off from the world until there is nothing left to close off.

Anyway, everyone knows my opinion of their antiquated belief system... No need for me to carry on, I sound like a broken record at this point.
victor809 Offline
#59 Posted:
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Yep. I'm not the leader of a 1st world country. My power is limited.

I never claimed otherwise.

If you think the president should be acting as if he has the same power as a random pharma dude who hangs out in discount cigar forums, please, move to a 3rd world country.
HuckFinn Offline
#60 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Einstein is also believed by many to have said "Insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results"

So although I am not in favor of nuking , it is also not insanity.
But sitting back and doing our same old nothing actually IS insanity.


I'm positive Einstein would opt for insane repetition before insane nuking.

Besides, I never said we should do the same thing we've done in the past with Iran. You did.
Not my words or contention.

Trump looked weak after Helsinki. He told Bolton as soon as Iran growls let me know. So I guess now, to his base anyway, he looks all tough again.

How come he's not a tough guy with Russia?

America should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace, and war with Iran is the mother of all wars,” is what Rouhani said. And why? Because Trump threatened to stop Iranian oil exports.
Rouhani, btw, is a moderate.

RMAN4443 Offline
#61 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Yep. I'm not the leader of a 1st world country. My power is limited.

I never claimed otherwise.

If you think the president should be acting as if he has the same power as a random pharma dude who hangs out in discount cigar forums, please, move to a 3rd world country.

I never said you had any power what so ever....just pointing out the personality traits you share with "short bus McOrange"...
victor809 Offline
#62 Posted:
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Meh. I have yet to see an all caps post from me.
teedubbya Offline
#63 Posted:
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A twitter rant on something like this is beneath the Presidency. We don’t have a dictator (the type that usually does such things). It’s hollow internet toughman crap. Congress does play a part and they aren’t tweeting many threats at the moment.

This is busch league and our president should be playing a-ball. He’s a least common denominator President and is sinking to their level. It’s empty rhetoric and he’s an embarrassment.

Regardless of party I’d sure like to see the next person restore some dignity to the position.
teedubbya Offline
#64 Posted:
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It reminds me of jimmyct
RMAN4443 Offline
#65 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Meh. I have yet to see an all caps post from me.

that's not really a personality trait....
DrMaddVibe Offline
#66 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
Regardless of party I’d sure like to see the next person restore some dignity to the position.


You can vote for Kayne!
victor809 Offline
#67 Posted:
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Rman.... Then you don't read enough posts on this site...
tailgater Offline
#68 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
I'm positive Einstein would opt for insane repetition before insane nuking.

Besides, I never said we should do the same thing we've done in the past with Iran. You did.
Not my words or contention.

Trump looked weak after Helsinki. He told Bolton as soon as Iran growls let me know. So I guess now, to his base anyway, he looks all tough again.

How come he's not a tough guy with Russia?

America should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace, and war with Iran is the mother of all wars,” is what Rouhani said. And why? Because Trump threatened to stop Iranian oil exports.
Rouhani, btw, is a moderate.



So you scream at the tops of your lungs because Trump wasn't tough with Putin.
Then you scream again because he is too tough in the middle east.

Rick called it.
You'll never be happy.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#69 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
A twitter rant on something like this is beneath the Presidency. We don’t have a dictator (the type that usually does such things). It’s hollow internet toughman crap. Congress does play a part and they aren’t tweeting many threats at the moment.

This is busch league and our president should be playing a-ball. He’s a least common denominator President and is sinking to their level. It’s empty rhetoric and he’s an embarrassment.

Regardless of party I’d sure like to see the next person restore some dignity to the position.


"Hollow" and "empty rhetoric" are probably the least accurate ways to describe what was said... but who knows, maybe rouhani will think the same and there'll be a new crater the astronauts can look at from space...
victor809 Offline
#70 Posted:
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Don't let them distract you Huck.

The issue at hand has nothing to do with that.

The president of the USA is acting like a spoiled child.

It doesn't matter whether you think we as a nation should be tough on Iran, or Russia. That's not the issue. Two people with diametrically opposed views on Iran should be able to agree that the president rage tweeting is an absurd situation for America.

But they don't want to discuss that... Because it's a ridiculous situation. So rather they'll try to frame your argument as either pro or anti Iran or Russia... But that's not significant.
dstieger Offline
#71 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
It reminds me of jimmyct


hmmmm....I've never seen a picture of jimmyct and Trump in the same room at the same time....will be awesome when Trump tweets to Rouhani that he's coming over for a five minute herf
HuckFinn Offline
#72 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
So you scream at the tops of your lungs because Trump wasn't tough with Putin.
Then you scream again because he is too tough in the middle east.

Rick called it.
You'll never be happy.

I don't remember screaming. I remember questioning why Trump wouldn't take a stand against Russian election interference at Helsinki. Not sure why you're not curious about that. Can you tell me why?
Why does Trump choose to believe Putin over his intel agencies?

I will scream again? I didn't scream a first time.
I never said a word about the middle east on this site.
DrafterX Offline
#73 Posted:
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You seem distracted Huck.. Mellow
tailgater Offline
#74 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Ok tail.tell me in your super objective view... How is this not embarrassing?

If you don't like people reading, then assessing the president's tweets as embarrassing, then elect a president who doesn't generate them.


But I am embarrassed.

I'm embarrassed that America NEEDED a President like this because of the situation in our nation's capitol.

I've felt we needed this for a LONG time.
Hell, I voted for Ross Perot.

But I'm more embarrassed by how we've become a nation full of whiny children.
People who needed a day off from work because the election didn't go their way.
A whole generation growing up thinking words matter more than action.

It's difficult to take you whiners seriously when you get angry about being TOO tough one day after being angry about being too soft.
You're Goldilocks looking for some porridge and you won't be satisfied until it's just right. Which would be fine, but your definition of "just right" is a moving target.

America will survive the next 6 years of President Trump. So sit back and enjoy the ride.
DrafterX Offline
#75 Posted:
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All Caps is pretty serious stuff tho... If it happened here we'd be toast I'm sure.. Mellow
opelmanta1900 Offline
#76 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Don't let them distract you Huck.

The issue at hand has nothing to do with that.

The president of the USA is acting like a spoiled child.

It doesn't matter whether you think we as a nation should be tough on Iran, or Russia. That's not the issue. Two people with diametrically opposed views on Iran should be able to agree that the president rage tweeting is an absurd situation for America.

But they don't want to discuss that... Because it's a ridiculous situation. So rather they'll try to frame your argument as either pro or anti Iran or Russia... But that's not significant.

I'll discuss it... nothing ridiculous about it.... trump has gotten a message to the Iranian people in a way no one has ever tried... rouhani's days are numbered and if it isn't the voice of his own people that takes him down it will be the hands of his enemy...
victor809 Offline
#77 Posted:
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... are you sure the Iranian people are even on Twitter?

...and do you think that message is anything other than "the leader of the USA is just as immature as your leader? Cuz that's the message I see....
victor809 Offline
#78 Posted:
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There you go tail. Trying to change the topic.

Who asked about people needing a day off (and how many do you estimate actually did that, as a percentage of our population?)
You want to talk about words meaning more than actions? Then what actions has he taken to back up his "tough talk" (I can't help but laugh when people claim this is tough talk... Dsteig is right... This is shades of jimmyct level posting... No one took him seriously either)

And then... Even after I pointed out that this had nothing to do with policies towards Iran or Russia... You tried to say this has something to do with his policies towards Iran and Russia....
victor809 Offline
#79 Posted:
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I just checked... Twitter is blocked to Iranian citizens.

Of course some can and will get around it.... But your average Iranian citizen didn't see his tweet.

(Kinda glad... There's at least one or two people who haven't seen how embarrassing our moron of a president acts)
dstieger Offline
#80 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
All Caps is pretty serious stuff tho... If it happened here we'd be toast I'm sure.. Mellow


Yeah....poor CROS....and RICKMAVEN, too


MR JONES might want to consider watching his back
DrafterX Offline
#81 Posted:
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Ya... Poor CROS... Sad
opelmanta1900 Offline
#82 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I just checked... Twitter is blocked to Iranian citizens.

Of course some can and will get around it.... But your average Iranian citizen didn't see his tweet.

(Kinda glad... There's at least one or two people who haven't seen how embarrassing our moron of a president acts)

24% of the country of iran uses Twitter... 50% of that 24% use it in excess of 5 times per day...
DrafterX Offline
#83 Posted:
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How many read English..?? Does the Twitter translate..?? Huh
victor809 Offline
#84 Posted:
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If they use it, they use proxies. The Iranian government blocks Twitter and Facebook.
The us govt has a proxy server they set up in Iran, but they have to keep changing it every time the Iranian govt blocks it (thank you Wikipedia).

I don't know how accurate that 50% number can be given the technical challenges....
HuckFinn Offline
#85 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:


Diplomacy in the middle east does not work. Just ask the Israelis.



"We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”

― Golda Meir
DrafterX Offline
#86 Posted:
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She was just kiddin... Mellow
HuckFinn Offline
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bgz wrote:
You can't reason with people that believe everyone else other than themselves should either submit or die (islam literally means submit or surrender).



Arabic language dictionaries define the word Islam as: submission, humbling oneself, and obeying commands and heeding prohibitions without objection, sincerely worshipping Allaah alone, believing what He tells us and having faith in Him.

Nothing bout dying contained in the simple word 'Islam'.

The Koran though clearly states believers have Allah's full permission to loot, kill, rape and torture non believers.

Which kind of sounds like the Old Testament God.
Phil222 Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
You can vote for Kayne!


Or Oprah.
bgz Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Arabic language dictionaries define the word Islam as: submission, humbling oneself, and obeying commands and heeding prohibitions without objection, sincerely worshipping Allaah alone, believing what He tells us and having faith in Him.

Nothing bout dying contained in the simple word 'Islam'.


I didn't say Islam meant die, death or dying, I said it literally means submit, which you seem to agree with.

HuckFinn wrote:

The Koran though clearly states believers have Allah's full permission to loot, kill, rape and torture non believers.


Sounds like a cult to me... if it didn't have billions of people in it's faith, it would probably be defined as such.

HuckFinn wrote:

Which kind of sounds like the Old Testament God.


You obviously haven't been paying attention to any of my posts on religion, ... argument fail.

You can't use other Abrahamic based scripture to attempt to shame or show hypocrisy when arguing with an atheist... it just doesn't work.


opelmanta1900 Offline
#90 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
If they use it, they use proxies. The Iranian government blocks Twitter and Facebook.
The us govt has a proxy server they set up in Iran, but they have to keep changing it every time the Iranian govt blocks it (thank you Wikipedia).

I don't know how accurate that 50% number can be given the technical challenges....

http://techrasa.com/2017/08/02/infographic-twitter-usage-statistics-iran/
tailgater Offline
#91 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
There you go tail. Trying to change the topic.

Who asked about people needing a day off (and how many do you estimate actually did that, as a percentage of our population?)
You want to talk about words meaning more than actions? Then what actions has he taken to back up his "tough talk" (I can't help but laugh when people claim this is tough talk... Dsteig is right... This is shades of jimmyct level posting... No one took him seriously either)

And then... Even after I pointed out that this had nothing to do with policies towards Iran or Russia... You tried to say this has something to do with his policies towards Iran and Russia....


Change topic?
You said we should be embarrassed.
I told you why I was.

How it that a change in topic?

You just hate it when you're revealed as the anti-trump shrill that you are.
You're angry because even most people who support our President are anti POTUS-tweets so it makes your fixation look even more foolish.

Keep fighting the good fight.
Antifa thanks you for your service.

HuckFinn Offline
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bgz wrote:
I didn't say Islam meant die, death or dying, I said it literally means submit, which you seem to agree with.



Sounds like a cult to me... if it didn't have billions of people in it's faith, it would probably be defined as such.



You obviously haven't been paying attention to any of my posts on religion, ... argument fail.

You can't use other Abrahamic based scripture to attempt to shame or show hypocrisy when arguing with an atheist... it just doesn't work.



Wasn't arguing with you. Just trying, alas, to be clever. More like a cleverness fail.
victor809 Offline
#93 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
http://techrasa.com/2017/08/02/infographic-twitter-usage-statistics-iran/


Dude.... Opel... That survey was "of Twitter users in Iran"... Literally 100% of those people surveyed use Twitter.

The 50% was how many Twitter users access Twitter within the past 5 days.....

That has nothing to do with how many Iranians actually have access to Twitter (although it was apparently one of the top 5 websites before being banned)
victor809 Offline
#94 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Change topic?
You said we should be embarrassed.
I told you why I was.

And I find it embarrassing that we have grown adults who cite anecdotes about people calling in sick from work due to an election and try to apply that anecdote to an entire population.

...see.... How did that in any way further our discussion... It didn't.
... granted, we weren't having a discussion. You were trying to talk about something unrelated.

Quote:


You just hate it when you're revealed as the anti-trump shrill that you are.
You're angry because even most people who support our President are anti POTUS-tweets so it makes your fixation look even more foolish.

Keep fighting the good fight.
Antifa thanks you for your service.


There used to be a time, not so long ago, that complaining about our politicians was an American thing to do.
Didn't matter who's party.... You could criticize your own party's politician....

You say people who are pro trump are anti trump tweets... Then why aren't they complaining about it? It's complete silence.... If you don't like when Donnie 2 scoops tweets dumb sh&t, why don't you say something?

This isn't the Catholic Church.... When someone's plowing the altar boy, you can criticize then.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#95 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Dude.... Opel... That survey was "of Twitter users in Iran"... Literally 100% of those people surveyed use Twitter.

The 50% was how many Twitter users access Twitter within the past 5 days.....

That has nothing to do with how many Iranians actually have access to Twitter (although it was apparently one of the top 5 websites before being banned)



Copy and paste from the article:

For the first time, TechRasa and NazarBazaar have conducted a questionnaire to find out about the state of Internet and social media usage in Iran. NazarBazaar which is an Iranian market research platform helps businesses define surveys and sets incentives for consumers to answer them. 3,707 Iranians from the age of 18 to 65 have answered our questionnaire; of which 2,829 were men and 878 were women. Note that these statistics were gathered by the users of Twitter in Iran.

In our demographic for this survey, around 24% said they use Twitter on a daily basis. Also, less than 50% in our demographic said that they open Twitter less than 5 times during the day. Most of the people who answered this questionnaire said that each of their sessions takes 6 to 20 minutes and they usually use this platform from 7 pm to 10 pm.
RMAN4443 Offline
#96 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I just checked... Twitter is blocked to Iranian citizens.

Of course some can and will get around it.... But your average Iranian citizen didn't see his tweet.

(Kinda glad... There's at least one or two people who haven't seen how embarrassing our moron of a president acts)

Iran doesn't get newsfeeds on the internet or underground radio???wouldn't they see it somewhere?
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Arabic language dictionaries define the word Islam as: submission, humbling oneself, and obeying commands and heeding prohibitions without objection, sincerely worshipping Allaah alone, believing what He tells us and having faith in Him.

Nothing bout dying contained in the simple word 'Islam'.

The Koran though clearly states believers have Allah's full permission to loot, kill, rape and torture non believers.

Which kind of sounds like the Old Testament God.

Maybe,but this is a New Testament world...
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Maybe,but this is a New Testament world...

On what do you base that claim?
victor809 Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Copy and paste from the article:

For the first time, TechRasa and NazarBazaar have conducted a questionnaire to find out about the state of Internet and social media usage in Iran. NazarBazaar which is an Iranian market research platform helps businesses define surveys and sets incentives for consumers to answer them. 3,707 Iranians from the age of 18 to 65 have answered our questionnaire; of which 2,829 were men and 878 were women. Note that these statistics were gathered by the users of Twitter in Iran.

In our demographic for this survey, around 24% said they use Twitter on a daily basis. Also, less than 50% in our demographic said that they open Twitter less than 5 times during the day. Most of the people who answered this questionnaire said that each of their sessions takes 6 to 20 minutes and they usually use this platform from 7 pm to 10 pm.


Also copy and pasted from the article:

"Note that these statistics were gathered by the users of Twitter in Iran."


Additionally copy and pasted from the article:
"98.2% of Iranian Twitter users believe Opel needs to read his sources fully more often"
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
On what do you base that claim?

Just trying to be clever....must have been a cleverness fail...Anxious
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