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What redeeming qualities do you think Trump has?
RMAN4443 Offline
#51 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Really??? whadhebuy??

Huck told me the SUN said he went to the food court for a P-nut butter, Quaalude, and banana sandwich...

Not sure I believe him...Anxious
HuckFinn Offline
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RMANN,
 I research and try to accurately substantiate what I'm posting. Sure, it gets filtered through my personal prejudices but I don't get why that makes it bs.

Is it possible that you just hate any liberal take on things? Is FoxNews more reliable?

Or is everyone lying and I'm spreading the left's lies that fit my agenda?

Does anyone have good intentions. Is there anyone left just trying to deliver news and facts?
Don't facts exist? How rich is Putin? You tell me.

Because based on your desire to get real truth, accept no bs,  or kaka as you like to put it, you seem to accept Trump's lies (kaka) without objection.

Finally, is it lies that tick you off or just what you've predetermined to be lies from the left?
Or me.

 Could it be that you just hate the left?
That, I guess, I could understand.




RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
RMANN,
 I research and try to accurately substantiate what I'm posting. Sure, it gets filtered through my personal prejudices but I don't get why that makes it bs. That's exactly why it's BS... if you site 5 internet sites to prove a point, and 4 of them are "beliefs" from the same person, and one is the SUN...that's BS

Is it possible that you just hate any liberal take on things? Is FoxNews more reliable? NO

Or is everyone lying and I'm spreading the left's lies that fit my agenda?maybe Think

Does anyone have good intentions. Is there anyone left just trying to deliver news and facts?
Don't facts exist? How rich is Putin? You tell me. I have no idea,but I'm not going to make up a number....

Because based on your desire to get real truth, accept no bs,  or kaka as you like to put it, you seem to accept Trump's lies (kaka) without objection. not true, I've stated multiple times that Trump does and says(tweets) stupid things...you just don't hear it when I say it...or you Ignore that I said it...Think

Finally, is it lies that tick you off or just what you've predetermined to be lies from the left?
Or me.
lies mostly, and you seem to use the technique as often as you accuse Trump of it..

 Could it be that you just hate the left?
That, I guess, I could understand. No,absolutely not...well maybe the ones leading the charge with BS






Trump is the President of the United States of America...the day he won the Presidency, or Hilary LOST it, the country went crazy....wanting to bomb the White House(Madonna), people threatning to leave the US(cher,meryl streep)(I don't think any did), unfounded(as of yet) allegations of collusion,etc,etc..........
So far he has accomplished some good things....NK sitdown, getting NATO countries to pay their fair share, Immigration, tax cuts....and it's still very early in his first term.....Maybe he should get a chance to lead and let's see how it plays out, and not beat down on a daily basis....Yes, he says STUPID things sometimes....if I remember correctly, so did Obama and Clinton and Bush, etc.,etc.,etc.....
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Trump is the President of the United States of America...the day he won the Presidency, or Hilary LOST it, the country went crazy....wanting to bomb the White House(Madonna), people threatning to leave the US(cher,meryl streep)(I don't think any did), unfounded(as of yet) allegations of collusion,etc,etc..........
So far he has accomplished some good things....NK sitdown, getting NATO countries to pay their fair share, Immigration, tax cuts....and it's still very early in his first term.....Maybe he should get a chance to lead and let's see how it plays out, and not beat down on a daily basis....Yes, he says STUPID things sometimes....if I remember correctly, so did Obama and Clinton and Bush, etc.,etc.,etc.....



I'd agree to an extent but he has hit new heights.... its not really comparable to a Prez from either party and the but...obama, bush etc card rings hollow to me.

I know I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. To suggest its normal is something I can't agree with and something I'd prefer not to become the new norm by just letting it go.
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I hope his leadership style will not be the new normal...no POTUS in my memory has acted and talked as Trump has in office...Nixon in private, on tape, was in that vein, but not like the public Trump... Nixon was vindicated about opening up with China, perhaps some parallels?

I doubt if there is a Dem candidate like Trump out there...but if there is, would libs vote for such a person?
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They are voting for socialist... I'd still vote Trump.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I hope his leadership style will not be the new normal...no POTUS in my memory has acted and talked as Trump has in office...Nixon in private, on tape, was in that vein, but not like the public Trump... Nixon was vindicated about opening up with China, perhaps some parallels?

I doubt if there is a Dem candidate like Trump out there...but if there is, would libs vote for such a person?

Nixon was a key player in closing off China in da fifties though...
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OK Speyside, I'll attempt to enlighten you about why we support President Trump.
First, he prevented a reboot of the disastrous Obama administration by defeating Hillary;
Engineered a historic tax cut that reduced taxes for 80 percent of U.S. households;
Presided over one of the greatest economic booms in U.S. history;
Reduced unemployment for every demographic to lowest point ever;
Rebuilt the military
Destroyed ISIS;
Faced down North Korea;
Got North Korea to return our KIA something presidents have failed to do for 60 years;
Gave veterans the right to use private hospitals when veterans hospitals have failed them;
Repealed the Obamacare individual mandate;
Recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, something other presidents promised but faied to deliver;
Opened the Keystone Pipeline;
Withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement;
Brought manufacturing jobs back to America.
There are a few others too, but hopefully this satisfies your interest.

MACS Offline
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Speyside wrote:
I am interested in what Trump supporters value in Trump. I wasn't even planning to comment again. I am not looking to create another argument. More than anything my question is to help me better understand Trump supporters.


He said he was going to do stuff. He did some of it... and he's actually attempting to do all the stuff he said he would do.

He's not an established politician, which often hurts him, but is/was a message to the established asshats. While he does and says some things that get some people triggered as hell... I find it refreshing (and often cringe-worthy) that he blurts sh*t out... instead of having every comment weighed and measured first.
MACS Offline
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delta1 wrote:
I hope his leadership style will not be the new normal...no POTUS in my memory has acted and talked as Trump has in office...Nixon in private, on tape, was in that vein, but not like the public Trump... Nixon was vindicated about opening up with China, perhaps some parallels?

I doubt if there is a Dem candidate like Trump out there...but if there is, would libs vote for such a person?


They voted for Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters... what makes you think they wouldn't?? Water and Pelosi, in particular, are far more idiotic.
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MACS wrote:
They voted for Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters... what makes you think they wouldn't?? Water and Pelosi, in particular, are far more idiotic.

possibly may be limited to local appeal as far as elections go, but I'd hate to have to vote for them and my political leanings are well known.

Lunatic Rick Sanitorium couldn't win dog catcher 50 miles from home not too long ago.
delta1 Offline
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MACS wrote:
They voted for Schumer, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters... what makes you think they wouldn't?? Water and Pelosi, in particular, are far more idiotic.


None of those Dems are considered POTUS candidates, even though their constituents like them well enough to keep sending them back to Congress...

plenty of extremists on the right who wouldn't be serious candidates for POTUS, but keep getting re-elected...
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billofgainesville wrote:
OK Speyside, I'll attempt to enlighten you about why we support President Trump.
First, he prevented a reboot of the disastrous Obama administration by defeating Hillary;
Engineered a historic tax cut that reduced taxes for 80 percent of U.S. households;
Presided over one of the greatest economic booms in U.S. history;
Reduced unemployment for every demographic to lowest point ever;
Rebuilt the military
Destroyed ISIS;
Faced down North Korea;
Got North Korea to return our KIA something presidents have failed to do for 60 years;
Gave veterans the right to use private hospitals when veterans hospitals have failed them;
Repealed the Obamacare individual mandate;
Recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, something other presidents promised but faied to deliver;
Opened the Keystone Pipeline;
Withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement;
Brought manufacturing jobs back to America.
There are a few others too, but hopefully this satisfies your interest.



You forgot a couple of big ones...pulled out of a bad deal in Iran and imposed tariffs on countries that were exploiting America...I get why his base and his party back him...but...

a few of those trophies on the wall may not be viewed as badges of honor and are disputed by a majority of Americans...some are inheritances that he's extended and enhanced... and others may be discredited down the road a decade or so, when events may prove them short-sighted...
billofgainesville Offline
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Didn't forget at all. Got weary of listing all his accomplishments. And, I do consider all "badges of honor" regardless if they are disputed by a majority of liberals. Remains to be seen if any are discredited although there is no doubt Dems will attempt to discredit them all.
MACS Offline
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http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/07/29/us-therapists-see-increase-patients-trump-anxiety-disorder

I guess TDS is now called TAD.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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LOLZ!

https://youtu.be/VDndE432GpU

TAD bit bat$hit crazy!

Speyside Offline
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To have psychological problems about Trump is crazy. I guess they need more safe places. Perhaps they could shelter in place in a Starbucks. Tail, you are behind the times, get with it and start using TAD!
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I did,can't find that info....why don't you show us?
A couple of minutes ago you said 500 billion...is it 200 or 500...or more of your Ka-Ka?



...wasn't sure how or even if I wanted to respond to your posts and insults. Guess I'm sufficiently bored today to deal with someone like you...so here goes.... here's what's up.


 Not all. 3 out of the 5 links I posted mention Browder. Not all. There are multiple Putin insiders mentioned as well, like former Kremlin adviser Stanislav Belkovsky but, of course, that wouldn't fit in with you effete 'kaka' reference. You want his actual flucking tax return


So not all mention Browder. You lied. Or didn't take the time to count....Or were in a hurry..or exaggerated....allowed info to filter through your anti-liberal prejudices....


You smell that?


 I've decided you smell 'kaka' all the time because you either have chit for brains or the maturity of an 11yo. And probably both...


You could care less about Putin, even though you essentially voted for him. You could care less about his net worth. Or did the big big number bother you? You want an enemy. I just don't find you challenging , truth be told. So theres that. Annoying? Yeah, youre annoying.


You probably think it makes you look clever to challenge me. You look petty. Stupid. And as I realize you can't control it, pitiable.


Maybe you have daddy issues. Or maybe you're stuck in your anal stage of development . IDK, (insert and color one of you kaka references here. They're so adorable) and DGAF.

 

Lastly,  Browder was the CEO of Hermitage Capital Management, which was at that time Russia's largest foreign investor. He is one of the best authorities on Putin’s business dealings, besides having been a major investor in Russia during the 90s. 


He made the net worth claim  before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Was he lying too?

You wanted personal. You got it.


DrafterX Offline
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Well, at least you didn't say somethin about his momma.. Mellow
Speyside Offline
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Huck, take it easy on RMAN. So what if he is a Coprophiliac? Who are we to judge?
DrafterX Offline
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According to an essay written by psychologist Jennifer Panning, the symptoms of "Trump Anxiety Disorder" include "feeling a loss of control and helplessness, and fretting about what's happening in the country and spending excessive time on social media."

A 2017 poll by the American Psychological Organization also found that nearly half of its respondents said they were significantly stressed due to the country's political climate.


Think
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
...wasn't sure how or even if I wanted to respond to your posts and insults. Guess I'm sufficiently bored today to deal with someone like you...so here goes.... here's what's up.


 Not all. 3 out of the 5 links I posted mention Browder. Not all.(more than 1/2,80% if you include him as the" less credible critic" There are multiple Putin insiders mentioned as well, like former Kremlin adviser Stanislav Belkovsky but, of course, that wouldn't fit in with you effete 'kaka' reference. You want his actual flucking tax return...you are correct,for a change....there are 5 links, I apologize for twisting the truth like that, especially to someone who values honesty like you do...I cited 3 of them that state Browder's "BELIEFS" and mentioned a 4th that cited "a less credible critic(who I thought may have been you)...it was the magazine published by your beloved TIME magazine, so I don't really give it much creedence...But it does also discuss Belkvsky's
"ESTIMATES" of Putin's wealth, it also states...
The most often cited estimate comes from a former mid-level Kremlin adviser named Stanislav Belkovsky. In 2007, he claimed Putin had a fortune worth at least $40 billion—a figure that would put him in the top 10 of Forbes magazine’s ranking of billionaires.

(Forbes, the premier chronicler of the world’s wealthiest, doesn’t include Putin on its list of billionaires. In 2015, the magazine said it couldn’t verify enough assets.)

Later, in 2012, Belkovsky upped his estimate to $70 billion, based on new information from “confidential sources around the corporations,” according to an interview with nonprofit journalism outlet The Bureau of Investigative Journalism.
That’d put Putin within striking distance of Bill Gates, who according to Bloomberg is the world’s richest man with an estimated net worth of $84 billion.
One less credible critic says Putin’s real worth could be as high as $200 billion.
certainly not even close to your stated 500 billion+


So not all mention Browder. You lied. Or didn't take the time to count....Or were in a hurry..or exaggerated....allowed info to filter through your anti-liberal prejudices....not anti-liberal, anti-BullChit spreading liberal


You smell that?....no, your still to far away...just the way I like it


 I've decided you smell 'kaka' all the time because you either have chit for brains or the maturity of an 11yo. And probably both...it's a personality defect, I bet you smell chit all the time because you talk a lot and your breath keeps blowing back into your face..


You could care less about Putin, even though you essentially voted for him. You could care less about his net worth. Or did the big big number bother you? You want an enemy. I just don't find you challenging , truth be told. So theres that. Annoying? Yeah, youre annoying. ...your incorrect, I couldn't care less about Putin...my Putin GAF is so low it could not possibly go any lower...it's your BullChit that gets to me....I'm annoying? You ,my good man, are a like a John Deere Tractor-always spreading the Bullchit He does seem to have you a bit riled up thoughThink


You probably think it makes you look clever to challenge me. You look petty. Stupid. And as I realize you can't control it, pitiable....yeah ,it's a another personality defect and again you give yourself to much credit...it's not really a challenge, it's something I do when the important stuff(like cleaning up the dog chit in the yard) is done,just to amuse myself.....I know, more Chit...but the dog's gotta go somewhere, and I LIKE her...


Maybe you have daddy issues. Or maybe you're stuck in your anal stage of development . IDK, (insert and color one of you kaka references here. They're so adorable) and DGAF.....tell me, "Who's Your Daddy?"...but if you want anal you got the wrong guy, but I might just know the man for you...he loves Ka-Ka on his dipstick...or from a dipstick...something like that..

 

Lastly,  Browder was the CEO of Hermitage Capital Management, which was at that time Russia's largest foreign investor. He is one of the best authorities on Putin’s business dealings, besides having been a major investor in Russia during the 90s. 


He made the net worth claim  before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Was he lying too?...Your links say that it's his "Belief"...if he believes it I guess it must be true...

You wanted personal. You got it.



I say Bullchit again!!....man you need an enemaFull of crap

So again, 4 0f the 5 mention Belkovsky, Browder, and a less credible critic(you)? if not you Browder?

I've gone back and reread your links...I see a couple of people mentioned, but all the important information there came from Browder in 3 of them and Belkovsky in another, oh yeah,don;t forget that less credible critic(whoever that could be:-"
So not really(truthfully?) multiple insiders....hint...multiple insiders means more than the same 3 or 4 insiders, giving their "BELIEFS" and "ESTIMATES" multiple times
and note....Stanislav Belkovsky, is a "former mid-level Kremlin advisor"...someone I can't imagine Putin taking a lot of advice from, or divulging many secrets to

So,in closing I SAY GOODDAY!!!!!d'oh! d'oh! horse Liar Liar Liar
RMAN4443 Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Huck, take it easy on RMAN. So what if he is a Coprophiliac? Who are we to judge?

Damn Spey….you might want to go solo....if that was the best you and Huck can come up with as a team...d'oh! Brick wall
Speyside Offline
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RMAN, something that sh***y had to be just from me.
RMAN4443 Offline
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Speyside wrote:
RMAN, something that sh***y had to be just from me.

yeah I kinda thought so...Huck would have thought it was too effete...Not talking
tailgater Offline
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Mmmmmm.
Crawdads.

HuckFinn Offline
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Fluck dude.
How many hours did you toil over that insipid rant?

3 Harleys and that's what you do on a Sunday morning?

This is about Putin. Was, anyway. You know much about Putin? For one thing, people, journalists, ex-spies,  dissenters, are either thrown in jail, vanish or just turn up dead courtesy of Putin all the time.

I won't waste my time posting links. More than several. Brower claims he's received death threats. Am I lying? Is he? Attack the messenger. Not the message. S'what you do dude.


People are afraid of Putin for obvious good reason. Not many dare to come forward and expose ugly truths about him. True? Not going to post links....but if im right, wouldn't that partially account for the paucity of info about him and his net worth? The guy's a flucking monster. A monster who's consistently voted one of the most powerful people in the world.  Am i lying?

I wouldn't fluck with him. I wouldn't stop you though.


What's with all the chit references?

Cause you sound like a little kid with a load in his pants.

Besides sounding bitter. And petty.

Putin is OUR enemy. Well he's mine anyway. Not sure about cons these days.
tailgater Offline
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2018:
Russia is the enemy but conservatives love them.
-Huck

2012:
"Gov. Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida. You said Russia ... the 1980s, they're now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years,"
-B.H.O.


I guess Russia became bad just 2 years ago.
Because 6 years ago you laughed along with our President.



Speyside Offline
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RMAN, I was only laughing. In that post I had no intent to be mean/harsh. I came across that word and wanted to use it.
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Tail, it's cognitive dissonance.
HuckFinn Offline
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tailgater wrote:
2018:
Russia is the enemy but conservatives love them.
-Huck

2020:
Wow, Russia is the enemy!? Never stopped being the enemy! Damn Huck!
-tailgater

Speyside Offline
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My opinion only, but I thought Obamas foreign policy was timid and ineffective. He got a free pass on what I consider to be many bad decisions.
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Fluck dude.
How many hours did you toil over that insipid rant? ...not all that long,like I said, it's not really much of a challenge

3 Harleys and that's what you do on a Sunday morning?...no, this morning I had to deal with a real challenge....a fallen tree

This is about Putin. Was, anyway. You know much about Putin? For one thing, people, journalists, ex-spies,  dissenters, are either thrown in jail, vanish or just turn up dead courtesy of Putin all the time. and now your a Putin expert??puhleeze

I won't waste my time posting links. More than several. Brower claims he's received death threats. Am I lying? Is he? Attack the messenger. Not the message. S'what you do dude. your message is bullchit!!! Again with the Browder "claims"


People are afraid of Putin for obvious good reason. Not many dare to come forward and expose ugly truths about him. True? Not going to post links....but if im right, wouldn't that partially account for the paucity of info about him and his net worth? so now your trying to tell me no one wants to speak up about Putin because they're scared?What about all your "multiple insiders"??The guy's a flucking monster. A monster who's consistently voted one of the most powerful people in the world.  Am i lying?....I'm going to assume you are, based on your track record here...and IF you were right I "claim" er, it's my "Belief", it would be, in my "Estimate" the first time

I wouldn't fluck with him. I wouldn't stop you though.....I don't really know Putin myself, but I hope he doesn't hear about all the chit you talk about him

What's with all the chit references?... It makes me sound mean if I keep calling you a liar

Cause you sound like a little kid with a load in his pants. ….you sound like an expert on the subject

Besides sounding bitter. And petty.....I don't know how to say it any more clearly...just because you keep saying things over and over, it doesn't make your BS true

Putin is OUR enemy. Well he's mine anyway. Not sure about cons these days....so I hate libs, but you have no ax to grind with cons???


I never said Putin wasn't a bad guy???I don't know where you got that....more bullchit..d'oh!


or you have chit in your ears(eyes) too

That didn't take all that long, did it???Not talking
RMAN4443 Offline
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Speyside wrote:
RMAN, I was only laughing. In that post I had no intent to be mean/harsh. I came across that word and wanted to use it.

I got the joke...I laughed, but I was on a roll...Anxious
HuckFinn Offline
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RMAN4443 wrote:
I never said Putin wasn't a bad guy???I don't know where you got that....more bullchit..d'oh!


or you have chit in your ears(eyes) too

That didn't take all that long, did it???Not talking

Yeah, I'm done with you chit-for-brains.

I value my Sundays.
Speyside Offline
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Yes, yes you were.
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Yeah, I'm done with you chit-for-brains.

I value my Sundays.

That sounded like my grandson, His reply to you would be... "OH YEAH"...I know you are but what am I...
I am rubber and you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you..
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me...Flapper
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I am not sure about that, if I called you an Obama supporter it might hurt. Or better yet a member of the ACLU, PETA, or ANTIFA. Or worst of all, a .......... liberal. Yeah, that's the ticket.
RMAN4443 Offline
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Speyside wrote:
I am not sure about that, if I called you an Obama supporter it might hurt. Or better yet a member of the ACLU, PETA, or ANTIFA. Or worst of all, a .......... liberal. Yeah, that's the ticket.

I was quoting my grandson there, in response to Huck's very mature post ....if I were called any of those things you posted, they would hurt my feelings beyond belief, but that's just me, I'm a delicate little flower...Crying
Speyside Offline
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Aren't we all?
JadeRose Offline
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None....couldn't stand him before he was POTUS...can't stand him now.....wish he would have a stroke and croak.




(that one will bother Drafter for some reason)
RMAN4443 Offline
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JadeRose wrote:
None....couldn't stand him before he was POTUS...can't stand him now.....wish he would have a stroke and croak.




(that one will bother Drafter for some reason)


Is that code for something freaky? Think

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RMAN4443 wrote:
Is that code for something freaky? Think





Only to Drafter
frankj1 Offline
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tailgater wrote:
2018:
Russia is the enemy but conservatives love them.
-Huck

2012:
"Gov. Romney, I'm glad that you recognize that al-Qaida is a threat, because a few months ago when you were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said Russia, not al-Qaida. You said Russia ... the 1980s, they're now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War's been over for 20 years,"
-B.H.O.


I guess Russia became bad just 2 years ago.
Because 6 years ago you laughed along with our President.




I'm not gonna look it up, but I think in 2012 Putin was just returning to the top spot, it may have taken him a few years to get his power consolidated.

Al Qaida probably was the larger threat that year, Obama may have been accurate 6 years ago.

dstieger Offline
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Regardless, Frank.....it's clear (to me) from the video that Obama was making fun of Romney for highlighting a Russian threat -- pretty far from saying "Sure, Russia is a threat, but I think Al Queda is the wolf at the door, Mitt."
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dstieger wrote:
Regardless, Frank.....it's clear (to me) from the video that Obama was making fun of Romney for highlighting a Russian threat -- pretty far from saying "Sure, Russia is a threat, but I think Al Queda is the wolf at the door, Mitt."

well, sure, but Obama was probably hamming it up to make Romney look dumb to the public...similar to saying Little Marco etc. (a little chit stirring, couldn't resist).

It has certainly been proven that it is always a mistake to get too comfortable with Russia, especially when Putin, one of the shrewdest people to ever walk the face of the Earth, is in charge.
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Putin was a mistake of Bush’s too. He even gazed into his dreamy eyes and stuff.

Not sure how bush and obama making that mistake makes Trump giving Putin a **** somehow better or ok.

Bush and Obama were wrong and figured it out at some point. Trump isn’t going to ask him to pull out and is just going to swallow.
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I don't want to speak for Tail, but, I take his point differently.

I agree that it is silly, if not hypocritical, for Obama to mock Romney for highlighting a Russian threat just a few years ago..... and the (Obama crowd?) then skewering Trump for not openly treating Putin as hostile today
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teedubbya wrote:
Putin was a mistake of Bush’s too. He even gazed into his dreamy eyes and stuff.

Not sure how bush and obama making that mistake makes Trump giving Putin a **** somehow better or ok.

Bush and Obama were wrong and figured it out at some point. Trump isn’t going to ask him to pull out and is just going to swallow.

I don't know if Bush figured it out, but Obama apparently hadn't figured it out as he was running for his 2nd term...It looks like Obama was a swallower himself

a 2012 incident in which President Obama was overheard whispering to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev that he (Obama) would have more flexibility to negotiate after the U.S. election that November.
Per news reports at the time, the incident happened as described. The occasion was a joint press opportunity with Medvedev prior to a global nuclear security summit in Seoul, South Korea. According to Reuters, snippets of conversation between the two were picked up by live microphones before the meeting got underway:
As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time — “particularly with missile defense” — until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
“This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
The exchange, parts of it inaudible, was monitored by a White House pool of television journalists as well as Russian reporters listening live from their press center.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-more-flexibility-russia/

Video of Obama/Medevev "chatting"
https://youtu.be/keXx0zxTarE
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Racist.. Not talking
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