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HuckFinn Offline
#101 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 2:07 PM EST
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A retrospective:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/22/barack-obama/obama-romney-called-russia-our-top-geopolitical-fo/




It seems clear that Russia is our enemy and not simply a competitor as Donald referred to them recently.

Also seems clear that Obama was more distrustful of Putin than Donald is. Much more.
DrafterX Offline
#102 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 2:19 PM EST
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So you can read minds today..?? Huh
Speyside Offline
#103 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 3:52 PM EST
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"What we've got here is a failure to communicate." Obama's foreign policy was a disaster. Don't compare it to Trump's. It was a disaster all on its own.

Trump's foreign policy doesn't have any specifics. He wings it as he goes and ends up getting played by our enemies. Also he alienates our allies. He is the laughingstock of the world.
delta1 Offline
#104 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 4:43 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I don't want to speak for Tail, but, I take his point differently.

I agree that it is silly, if not hypocritical, for Obama to mock Romney for highlighting a Russian threat just a few years ago..... and the (Obama crowd?) then skewering Trump for not openly treating Putin as hostile today



Russia had not invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea at the time of the Obama-Romney debate, in 2012. The US was intensely involved with Iran's growing nuclear threat and battling ISIS (remember the mocking from the cons, "why doesn't he say radical Islamist terrorists?"), so those were at the top of the list of top geo-political threats at the time of the debates...not yet (nyet?) Russia...

The Ukrainian/Crimea aggression happened 2 years later. So, using a sports metaphor, it would be like asking Belicheck who was the top threat to his championship dreams before the 2017 SB, and instead of saying the Atlanta Falcons, he said the Eagles. He would have been mocked, like Romney, but after two years in hindsight, he would have right.

Monday morning QB'ing is kinda easy like that...
HuckFinn Offline
#105 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 4:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
So you can read minds today..?? Huh

No. Trump coddles Putin and Russia. F'chissake, he takes Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies! Obama had a contentious relationship with Putin.

Donald seems to like him. But more likely he just being ....nm...

you must like him too, cause, well, Trump does.
tailgater Offline
#106 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 4:50 PM EST
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dstieger wrote:
I don't want to speak for Tail, but, I take his point differently.

I agree that it is silly, if not hypocritical, for Obama to mock Romney for highlighting a Russian threat just a few years ago..... and the (Obama crowd?) then skewering Trump for not openly treating Putin as hostile today


You can speak for me any time.
tailgater Offline
#107 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 4:57 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Russia had not invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea at the time of the Obama-Romney debate, in 2012. The US was intensely involved with Iran's growing nuclear threat and battling ISIS (remember the mocking from the cons, "why doesn't he say radical Islamist terrorists?"), so those were at the top of the list of top geo-political threats at the time of the debates...not yet (nyet?) Russia...

The Ukrainian/Crimea aggression happened 2 years later. So, using a sports metaphor, it would be like asking Belicheck who was the top threat to his championship dreams before the 2017 SB, and instead of saying the Atlanta Falcons, he said the Eagles. He would have been mocked, like Romney, but after two years in hindsight, he would have right.

Monday morning QB'ing is kinda easy like that...


Actually, this makes Mitt Romney's point even more impressive.
Being a strong leader in foreign policy means (among other things) preventing aggression, not simply adding a new country to the do-not-call-list after the fact.
delta1 Offline
#108 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 5:08 PM EST
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How is that different from Trump threatening "Rocket Man" KJU with fire and fury the likes of which the world has not seen...and then a year later saying KJU is "very honorable, smart, strong.'

World events continue to change, as should political perspectives shown by our leaders...China was deemed a no go zone, until Nixon opened relations amid protests from all sides, a move that helped put pressure on the Soviet Union...

But Obama...
HuckFinn Offline
#109 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 5:34 PM EST
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There's no break from the circular conversation in this room.

What's the point? You all know where your friends or foes will land on any subject...

Maybe it's cathartic. Vindication or confrontation. One finger-tackle.

But is it worth it? Is it healthy?

Circular conversation. Doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.

Insanity.

Oh, do carry on.....
DrafterX Offline
#110 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 6:18 PM EST
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Obama was very careful not to offend the Islamic Terrorists... Think
RMAN4443 Offline
#111 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 6:20 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
Russia had not invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea at the time of the Obama-Romney debate, in 2012. The US was intensely involved with Iran's growing nuclear threat and battling ISIS (remember the mocking from the cons, "why doesn't he say radical Islamist terrorists?"), so those were at the top of the list of top geo-political threats at the time of the debates...not yet (nyet?) Russia...

The Ukrainian/Crimea aggression happened 2 years later. So, using a sports metaphor, it would be like asking Belicheck who was the top threat to his championship dreams before the 2017 SB, and instead of saying the Atlanta Falcons, he said the Eagles. He would have been mocked, like Romney, but after two years in hindsight, he would have right.

Monday morning QB'ing is kinda easy like that...

Belicheck would have said, We're on to Cincinnati"...Applause
RMAN4443 Offline
#112 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 6:30 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
No. Trump coddles Putin and Russia. F'chissake, he takes Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies! Obama had a contentious relationship with Putin.

Donald seems to like him. But more likely he just being ....nm...

you must like him too, cause, well, Trump does.




Huck,Huck,Huck....at it again with your crap?...
This conversation does not sound very "contentious" to me....but I'mnot listening to it through Bullchit filled ears ...

According to Reuters, snippets of conversation between the two were picked up by live microphones before the meeting got underway:
As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time — “particularly with missile defense” — until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
“This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.
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#113 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 6:31 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Obama was very careful not to offend the Islamic Terrorists... Think

Impeach the ****!
delta1 Offline
#114 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 6:44 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Obama was very careful not to offend the Islamic Terrorists... Think


Osama, taking a break from his stable of virgins, says...."thank you very much, Obama."
HuckFinn Offline
#115 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 6:54 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Huck,Huck,Huck....at it again with your crap?...
This conversation does not sound very "contetious" to me....but I'mnot listening to it through Bullchit filled ears ...

According to Reuters, snippets of conversation between the two were picked up by live microphones before the meeting got underway:
As he was leaning toward Medvedev in Seoul, Obama was overheard asking for time — “particularly with missile defense” — until he is in a better position politically to resolve such issues.
“I understand your message about space,” replied Medvedev, who will hand over the presidency to Putin in May.
“This is my last election … After my election I have more flexibility,” Obama said, expressing confidence that he would win a second term.
“I will transmit this information to Vladimir,” said Medvedev, Putin’s protégé and long considered number two in Moscow’s power structure.

Putin and Obama had a contentious relationship. Google it.
You're citing one thing. Obama's willingness to talk about missiles with Putin when he took office. Putin was forever frustrated by U.S. military actions that led to regime changes in Iraq and Libya. He didn't like autocrats being ousted from power because, well, it set a bad example for the folks at home.

The U.S. passed a law punishing Russian officials for human rights violations, so Russia banned American parents from adopting Russian children.

Trump announced he wouldn't impose additional sanctions on Russia, despite Congress passing a law allowing the President to do so. Coddling. Don't ask yourself why. Ask me instead about my bullchit sources. Much more relevant.

"The personal relationship (between Obama and Putin ) is very bad," says Matthew Rojansky, who directs an institute on Russia at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There's no sugarcoating that, even though both have tried."

But listen. Do a Google search on Obama's and Putin's relationship. I'm sick of your neurosis.

I made a statement: Trump coddles Putin. Obama didn't.

Either Google it and come back at me with anti-bullchit or STFU.
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#116 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 7:04 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
He's the President of the United States of America...

Be American damnit.. Mad


Germany - 1938......

Just sayin’






Yo Drafter! Woot
RMAN4443 Offline
#117 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 7:38 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
Putin and Obama had a contentious relationship. Google it.
You're citing one thing. Obama's willingness to talk about missiles with Putin when he took office. Putin was forever frustrated by U.S. military actions that led to regime changes in Iraq and Libya. He didn't like autocrats being ousted from power because, well, it set a bad example for the folks at home.

The U.S. passed a law punishing Russian officials for human rights violations, so Russia banned American parents from adopting Russian children.

Trump announced he wouldn't impose additional sanctions on Russia, despite Congress passing a law allowing the President to do so. Coddling. Don't ask yourself why. Ask me instead about my bullchit sources. Much more relevant.



"The personal relationship (between Obama and Putin ) is very bad," says Matthew Rojansky, who directs an institute on Russia at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars. "There's no sugarcoating that, even though both have tried."

But listen. Do a Google search on Obama's and Putin's relationship. I'm sick of your neurosis.

I made a statement: Trump coddles Putin. Obama didn't.

Either Google it and come back at me with anti-bullchit or STFU.

Ok comrade....I will transmit this information to Vladimir (sounds like a couple of pals chatting)....but what do I know, your the expertAnxious

Oh, you mean cite several websites that all quote the same people saying the same things, and then post it up here like it's the Gospel according to Fluck Finn?

Interesting choice of words there...you want me to bring you some anti-Bullchit...is that like Bullchit repellant? Where would I find a product like that? I have been looking for something like that,since I ran into you anyway....:-"
HuckFinn Offline
#118 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 8:08 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
Ok comrade....I will transmit this information to Vladimir (sounds like a couple of pals chatting)....but what do I know, your the expertAnxious

Oh, you mean cite several websites that all quote the same people saying the same things, and then post it up here like it's the Gospel according to Fluck Finn?

Interesting choice of words there...you want me to bring you some anti-Bullchit...is that like Bullchit repellant? Where would I find a product like that? I have been looking for something like that,since I ran into you anyway....Whistle

As long as we're sharing, I think you're dumb Rick . Witless, tedious and catty.

I sometimes get the feeling you might be an old gf stalking me.
But my gfs were all pretty smart. You're dumb Rick.
tailgater Offline
#119 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 8:36 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
How is that different from Trump threatening "Rocket Man" KJU with fire and fury the likes of which the world has not seen...and then a year later saying KJU is "very honorable, smart, strong.'

World events continue to change, as should political perspectives shown by our leaders...China was deemed a no go zone, until Nixon opened relations amid protests from all sides, a move that helped put pressure on the Soviet Union...

But Obama...


Is that a serious question?

Trump is nothing at all if not a lot of bluster. And he uses that to set the terms of the negotiations.
I'm not saying I was jumping for joy when he yelled at the little fat man.
But Trump is all about the art of the deal.
He can make a drowning man thankful for a cup of water.

As for the comparison? Obama scoffed at the mention of Russia.
Scoffed.
Joked about it.
Said the cold war was over.
The 80's called looking for its foreign policy.

And just 4 years after that we are told that RUSSIA ram rodded our election.

So Russia either had the greatest turnaround in world history, or Obama made a monumental blunder with his dismissal and his oversight.

Oh.
There's a third option: Russia isn't the evil incarnate that the media paint them to be.
tailgater Offline
#120 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 8:41 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
As long as we're sharing, I think you're dumb Rick . Witless, tedious and catty.

I sometimes get the feeling you might be an old gf stalking me.
But my gfs were all pretty smart. You're dumb Rick.


I've met Rick.
He's neither dumb nor witless.
Catty, maybe.
But that can be a virtue.
RMAN4443 Offline
#121 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 8:51 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
As long as we're sharing, I think you're dumb Rick . Witless, tedious and catty.

I sometimes get the feeling you might be an old gf stalking me.
But my gfs were all pretty smart. You're dumb Rick.

In post #68 you said you wanted to get personal...it was like a challenge, so I decided to play....Damn,it's actually a lot of fun too...not really very challenging, but I guess if you keep at it, you'll get the hang of it...
Next thing you'll be trying to tell me is most of your gfs were pretty too...Liar
Oh , I also think you may be giving yourself a little too much credit again too....why would they possibly want to stalk you of all people?Anxious
frankj1 Offline
#122 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:11 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
Is that a serious question?

Trump is nothing at all if not a lot of bluster. And he uses that to set the terms of the negotiations.
I'm not saying I was jumping for joy when he yelled at the little fat man.
But Trump is all about the art of the deal.
He can make a drowning man thankful for a cup of water.

As for the comparison? Obama scoffed at the mention of Russia.
Scoffed.
Joked about it.
Said the cold war was over.
The 80's called looking for its foreign policy.

And just 4 years after that we are told that RUSSIA ram rodded our election.

So Russia either had the greatest turnaround in world history, or Obama made a monumental blunder with his dismissal and his oversight.

Oh.
There's a third option: Russia isn't the evil incarnate that the media paint them to be.


hate to go down this road, and I plan to turn off if it gets crowded, but is it possible you are not aware of his idea of a "deal"?

not upfront negotiations where one can become legendary, but welshing on his word when the invoice comes due...stuff 98.2% of us could not and would not be able to live with personally. Filthy business dealings. Not to be admired.

Do you also really believe Russia/Putin is not evil? Blame the media? Wow.
frankj1 Offline
#123 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:29 PM EST
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hold on tail, I just figured out what you did here, you sly dog.

you've played both sides of the Russia thing today.

Exhibit A- Romney was brilliant to see the yuuuuge menace they would be today.
Exhibit B- the media led us to believe Russia is a yuuuuge menace and Trump is brilliant to be their bff.

You can't lose, except in the "Consistency" thread.
delta1 Offline
#124 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:30 PM EST
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I was going to respond to tail's "World According to tail" rant..........but now it would seem like piling on...over-kill...



and I did take a vow of civility (not celibacy) ...
frankj1 Offline
#125 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:33 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I was going to respond to tail's "World According to tail" rant..........but now it would seem like piling on...over-kill...



and I did take a vow of civility (not celibacy) ...

in real life, tail is my buddy.
He won't mind getting piles.
Speyside Offline
#126 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:37 PM EST
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Delta, TG enjoys an argument, insults, and rants. I have been arguing, insulting, and ranting with him for a few days. I think we both had fun. TG, if I am wrong I am sure you will let me know.
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#127 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:39 PM EST
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he's gonna blame me.
Speyside Offline
#128 Posted: Mon, Jul 30 2018, 9:40 PM EST
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Prolly.
tailgater Offline
#129 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:15 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
hate to go down this road, and I plan to turn off if it gets crowded, but is it possible you are not aware of his idea of a "deal"?

not upfront negotiations where one can become legendary, but welshing on his word when the invoice comes due...stuff 98.2% of us could not and would not be able to live with personally. Filthy business dealings. Not to be admired.

Do you also really believe Russia/Putin is not evil? Blame the media? Wow.



A businessman welshing on deals, but getting away with it?
I don't do business like that. and try not to engage in business with someone who does. But there's something called Caveat Emptor and it sounds like you're blaming Trump because other people signed on the dotted line.
It's not admiration, but an acceptance of his effectiveness.

Don't overplay my feelings towards our President. I've admitted many times on these boards that I don't like Trump the person. Never did, although I never truly gave him much thought. Never watched his TV. Never even visited Trump tower in NYC or read his book.
But I did vote for him. Because despite what MSM tells you, a strong leader doesn't have to be likable.
We've all worked for effective jerks and great guys who simply weren't cut out for the job.
In a perfect world we would have an effective nice guy.
I didn't see that choice on the ballot.

In regards to Russia, I'm pointing out the obvious flaw that Obama ignored.
The media and Obama and the 47% laughed at Romney.
Then a simple 48 months later we are to believe they masterminded the election.

You want it both ways.
Russia was laughable (literally) in 2012, but then a great evil in 2016.

It doesn't work that way. Not without extreme bias and (media) manipulation.


On a side note, it seems obvious that if Romney won we wouldn't have a President Trump.
teedubbya Offline
#130 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:20 AM EST
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Obama was wrong. I’m not sure how that makes Trump right. You can’t change the past. Maybe a little more attention to the present is in order.
tailgater Offline
#131 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:22 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
hold on tail, I just figured out what you did here, you sly dog.

you've played both sides of the Russia thing today.

Exhibit A- Romney was brilliant to see the yuuuuge menace they would be today.
Exhibit B- the media led us to believe Russia is a yuuuuge menace and Trump is brilliant to be their bff.

You can't lose, except in the "Consistency" thread.


Frank, my appendagely gifted friend.
You can't use MY logic to make YOUR point.
That's playing outside the rules.


I'm just saying that it can't be true that Romney was wrong back then if the media is right today.

If Russia is evil today, then Romney was 100% correct in 2012.
Which means Obama botched it up and that allowed Russia to be what they are.
So blaming Trump, who wasn't even a politician in 2016 when Russia did their thingy, is nothing more than biased posturing.


tailgater Offline
#132 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:23 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
Delta, TG enjoys an argument, insults, and rants. I have been arguing, insulting, and ranting with him for a few days. I think we both had fun. TG, if I am wrong I am sure you will let me know.


You say this as if we're done.
Speyside Offline
#133 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:25 AM EST
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If someone who didn't alienate the independents like Hillary had been the Democratic choice I think it is likely they would have won.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#134 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:28 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
If someone who didn't alienate the independents like Hillary had been the Democratic choice I think it is likely they would have won.



Hell, anyone BUT Hillary would've won. She wanted to steal and paid dearly for it. Now, all her play toys must too.
tailgater Offline
#135 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:30 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Obama was wrong. I’m not sure how that makes Trump right. You can’t change the past. Maybe a little more attention to the present is in order.


But I haven't heard anyone else say Obama was wrong. In fact, the media actually makes excuses on his behalf.

And more importantly, I didn't say Trump was "right". If I did, please point it out. Otherwise you shouldn't suggest that I said it or even implied it.

You're right, though. We can't change the past except to learn from it.
People like Romney had vision. People like Obama preferred to appease for the moment.
Trump is neither.
Good or bad depends on whether you prefer results or feelings.
teedubbya Offline
#136 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:32 AM EST
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Romney was right. Obama was wrong. The aggression shown by Putin shows that. To use that to justify Trump is silly. It’s as if Trump can do whatever he wants and it’s ok because well....obama.

teedubbya Offline
#137 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:34 AM EST
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Tail you are disingenuous at times. Look at the context and environment of your comments. You don’t specifically have to say certain words. I don’t play that game. It’s silly.
tailgater Offline
#138 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:34 AM EST
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Speyside wrote:
If someone who didn't alienate the independents like Hillary had been the Democratic choice I think it is likely they would have won.


The best thing Hillary did was cheat her way past Sanders.
I like the guy and he's more honest than most.
But I'm not ready for a President who so closely identifies with socialism.



teedubbya Offline
#139 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:36 AM EST
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The media the media the media.

God that scapegoat grows weary.
tailgater Offline
#140 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:43 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Tail you are disingenuous at times. Look at the context and environment of your comments. You don’t specifically have to say certain words. I don’t play that game. It’s silly.


I'm a lot of things.
Disingenuous isn't one of them.

Your preconceived notion is that I love all things orange.
You are not correct in that assumption.

This is about the perception by the media and those who believe it.
I've been consistent towards that end game.
It has nothing to do with Trump being "right". Not in this thread.
tailgater Offline
#141 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:44 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
The media the media the media.

God that scapegoat grows weary.



If not the media then spontaneous mass hysteria.

But that acronym has been taken.
teedubbya Offline
#142 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 9:50 AM EST
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Tail I honestly don’t beleive you love all things orange any more than I believe folks that see that dolt for what he is are all brainwashed by the media or have some syndrome.

You tend to argue with anyone opposing Trump and back it with TDS or they just can’t think rationally or are acting due to the press etc.

In this instance you want folks to believe you were not defending trump, you were merely bashing the press and or obama.

Ok. I’ll take your word for it. I think you are sincere and can think for yourself. Maybe that’s a courtesy you should give others.
Speyside Offline
#143 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 10:08 AM EST
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TG, TW stated it much more effectively than I could have. I feel the same way.
HuckFinn Offline
#144 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 11:29 AM EST
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TW found an eloquent way of stating the obvious: TG likes to bust balls..
if they uh, lean to the left that is
frankj1 Offline
#145 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 1:03 PM EST
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how can I argue with a guy who says this about me?


"Frank, my appendagely gifted friend."

I am powerless to resist Joe's charms.
tailgater Offline
#146 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 3:36 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Tail I honestly don’t beleive you love all things orange any more than I believe folks that see that dolt for what he is are all brainwashed by the media or have some syndrome.

You tend to argue with anyone opposing Trump and back it with TDS or they just can’t think rationally or are acting due to the press etc.

In this instance you want folks to believe you were not defending trump, you were merely bashing the press and or obama.

Ok. I’ll take your word for it. I think you are sincere and can think for yourself. Maybe that’s a courtesy you should give others.


I do argue with many who oppose Trump.
And I do make mention of the media (often) and TDS (sometimes).
But it isn't my first pitch. I usually wait for the malady to unfold before our eyes.
At that point, I'm just a messenger.

A sincere messenger who thinks for himself.

Thank you.
tailgater Offline
#147 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 3:38 PM EST
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HuckFinn wrote:
TW found an eloquent way of stating the obvious: TG likes to bust balls..



So I guess you're safe.
frankj1 Offline
#148 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 4:14 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So I guess you're safe.



but I'm in YUUUUUUUUUUGE trouble
HuckFinn Offline
#149 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 4:28 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
So I guess you're safe.



Seriously, I was born 10lbs 4ozs. My balls weighed 5lbs 2ozs.

The doctor told my mom I should be put in a mental institution...

Said I was half nuts!
victor809 Offline
#150 Posted: Tue, Jul 31 2018, 5:24 PM EST
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An old girlfriend from college great up with horses and cows... One of the cows had been improperly gelded... So he still had one ball. They called him "half nuts".
By the end of college he was turned into beef jerky. He was delicious, if a little chewy
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