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Last post 5 years ago by frankj1. 6 replies replies.
There was no meeting with the Russians. Unless, of course, you count the meeting with the Russians.
fiddler898 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 06-15-2009
Posts: 3,782
Now he's lying, now he's not, now he is.

Discuss:

BRIDGEWATER, N.J. (AP) — President Donald Trump on Sunday acknowledged that the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between a Kremlin-connected lawyer and his son was to collect information about his political opponent, casting new light on a moment central to the special counsel’s Russia probe.

Trump, amid a series of searing tweets sent from his New Jersey golf club, tore into two of his favorite targets, the news media and Robert Mueller’s ongoing investigation into possible links between the president’s campaign and Russia. Trump unleashed particularly fury at reports that he was anxious about the Trump Tower meeting attended by Donald Trump Jr. and other senior campaign officials.

‘‘Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower,’’ Trump wrote. ‘‘This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!’’


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But 13 months ago, Trump gave a far different explanation for the meeting. A July 2017 statement dictated by the president read: ‘‘We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago.’’

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But since then, the story about the meeting has changed several times, eventually forced by the discovery of emails between the president’s eldest son and an intermediary from the Russian government offering damaging information about Trump’s opponent, Hillary Clinton. Betraying no surprise or misgivings about the offer from a hostile foreign power, Trump Jr. replied: ‘‘If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.’’

Sunday’s tweet was Trump’s clearest statement yet on the purpose of the meeting, which has become a focal point of Mueller’s investigation even as the president and his lawyers try to downplay its significance and pummel the Mueller probe with attacks. On Sunday, Trump again suggested without evidence that Mueller was biased against him, declaring, ‘‘This is the most one sided Witch Hunt in the history of our country.’’

And as Trump and his allies have tried to discredit the probe, a new talking point has emerged: that even if that meeting was held to collect damaging information, none was provided and ‘‘collusion’’ — Trump’s go-to description of what Mueller is investigating — never occurred.

‘‘The question is what law, statute or rule or regulation has been violated, and nobody has pointed to one,’’ said Jay Sekulow, one of Trump’s attorneys, on ABC’s ‘‘This Week.’’

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But legal experts have pointed out several possible criminal charges, including conspiracy against the United States and aiding and abetting a conspiracy. And despite Trump’s public Twitter denial, the president has expressed worry that his son may face legal exposure even as he believes he did nothing wrong, according to three people close to the White House familiar with the president’s thinking but not authorized to speak publicly about private conversations.

Sekulow acknowledged that the public explanation for the meeting has changed but insisted that the White House has been very clear with the special counsel’s office. He said he was not aware of Trump Jr. facing any legal exposure.

‘‘I don’t represent Don Jr.,’’ Sekulow said, ‘‘but I will tell you I have no knowledge at all of Don Jr. being told that he’s a target of any investigation, and I have no knowledge of him being interviewed by the special counsel.’’

Trump’s days of private anger spilled out into public with the Twitter outburst, which comes at a perilous time for the president.

A decision about whether he sits for an interview with Mueller may also occur in the coming weeks, according to another one of his attorneys, Rudy Giuliani. Trump has seethed against what he feels are trumped-up charges against his former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, whose trial began last week and provided a visible reminder of Mueller’s work.

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And he raged against the media’s obsession with his links to Russia and the status of Michael Cohen, his former fixer, who is under federal investigation in New York. Cohen has indicated that he would tell prosecutors that Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting ahead of time.

Despite a show of force from his national security team this week as a warning against future Russian election meddling, Trump again deemed the matter a ‘‘hoax’’ this week. And at a trio of rallies, he escalated his already vitriolic rhetoric toward the media, savaging the press for unflattering coverage and, he feels, bias.

‘‘The Fake News hates me saying that they are the Enemy of the People only because they know it’s TRUE,’’ Trump tweeted Sunday. ‘‘I am providing a great service by explaining this to the American People. They purposely cause great division distrust. They can also cause War! They are very dangerous sick!’’

The fusillade of tweets came from Bedminster, Trump’s golf course, where he is ensconced in a property that bears his name at every turn and is less checked in by staffers. It was at the New Jersey golf club where a brooding Trump has unleashed other inflammatory attacks and where, in spring 2017, he made the final decision to fire FBI Director James Comey, the move that triggered the Russia probe.

Trump was joined for his Saturday rally in Ohio by former White House communications director Hope Hicks, who departed the administration earlier this year. Her unannounced presence raised some eyebrows as Hicks has been interviewed by Mueller and was part of the team of staffers that helped draft the original statement on the Trump Tower meeting.

Multiple White House officials have been interviewed while still working at the White House and have remained in contact with the president.
Speyside Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2015
Posts: 13,106
People are going to throw shade at you and poorly attempt to gaslight the facts that you have laid out. My thoughts are as such. The Mueller investigation isn't over. Trump lies daily, some of the lies may be consequential. Meeting with an enemy foreign powers representative is not politics as usual. And finally we don't know who else will be charged.
Mr. Jones Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,400
Someone

i.e.

General KELLY (1/3 OF MY TRIUMVERATE)

SHOULD TAKE DONALDS SMART PHONE AWAY...
PERMANENTLY...

give him a burner "jitterbug" flip phone with only number keys that's way to hard to text on..
Program it for voice only calls out and in...
Have the jitterbug
Send all texts to KELLY..only... so he can delete them.
Buckwheat Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
Mr. Jones wrote:
Someone

i.e.

General KELLY (1/3 OF MY TRIUMVERATE)

SHOULD TAKE DONALDS SMART PHONE AWAY...
PERMANENTLY...

give him a burner "jitterbug" flip phone with only number keys that's way to hard to text on..
Program it for voice only calls out and in...
Have the jitterbug
Send all texts to KELLY..only... so he can delete them.

Applause
JadeRose Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 05-15-2008
Posts: 19,525
Leave it to Jones to have the best answer to all this I've heard so far.
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,211
so, there was a meeting, but it's not illegal.

now the question is...why did you lie then?
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