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Kristoff Ligero Maduro Rob
KingoftheCove Offline
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79.95 box
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opelmanta1900 Offline
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I might bite if it was the Toro... I've had issue with the robs burning hot...
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been quite a while, but I preferred the matador in all their blends.
and I don't usually like larger vitolas as much.
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I might bite if it was the Toro... I've had issue with the robs burning hot...

Eh......burning hot?
Guess I've been lucky. I have found that these are a bit finicky on startup..........you need to get a good solid light............then you're good to go.
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think I saw churchills too, Joel
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Eh......burning hot?
Guess I've been lucky. I have found that these are a bit finicky on startup..........you need to get a good solid light............then you're good to go.

Could've just been the ones i had... i certainly haven't gone through a ton of them... they were rolled a bit on the loose side iirc, they took a little while to get going, and once they did they slid right past enjoyable into harsh and bitter... like Frank, i enjoyed the matador despite the 56rg...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Could've just been the ones i had... i certainly haven't gone through a ton of them... they were rolled a bit on the loose side iirc, they took a little while to get going, and once they did they slid right past enjoyable into harsh and bitter... like Frank, i enjoyed the matador despite the 56rg...

Well an under packed, loose rolled 54rg cigar will be tough to get lit, and often, tough to keep lit, especially if it has a loose draw to go with it.
Then it over heats and gets rough when you draw hard enough and often enough to keep it going............sux.

I just bought a box the last time this deal was on...........letting them sit for a long nap and keeping my fingers crossed.......but the ones I'm smoking now have been good.....but from 2 years back.
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Pro used to smoke the chit out of these...........he's been buying boxes for a long time.
Wonder if he has noticed a decline in quality lately?
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Well an under packed, loose rolled 54rg cigar will be tough to get lit, and often, tough to keep lit, especially if it has a loose draw to go with it.
Then it over heats and gets rough when you draw hard enough and often enough to keep it going............sux.



Exactly... and that actually sums up my experience with every padron x000...

If a cigar has a loose draw does aging ever take care of that? I really haven't aged anything in the last couple years...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Exactly... and that actually sums up my experience with every padron x000...

If a cigar has a loose draw does aging ever take care of that? I really haven't aged anything in the last couple years...

Aahhhh.........grass hopper needs to learn HOW to smoke a Padron 000 series.
Basically, I NEVER do a traditional cut on a Padron 000 series.
A "light" v-cut is the way to go. Then a soft light, and puff light and EASY........the lightest of draws produces plenty of smoke, keeps it cool, and slows down the burn time............and they taste great, especially after a long long nap.
The advantage of a v-cut, is that it's easy to increase, or decrease draw resistance whenever you want.

I've said it before, but one has to learn the best way to smoke certain cigars.
Lots of different components make the "how to smoke" certain cigars.
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I don't know if a aging a cigar will fix a loose draw?
hmmm....
Well, I guess you could clip a cigar, test the draw, decide it's too loose, and put it back in the humi for a year or two and test it again.
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Aahhhh.........grass hopper needs to learn HOW to smoke a Padron 000 series.
Basically, I NEVER do a traditional cut on a Padron 000 series.
A "light" v-cut is the way to go.


Yes, some cigars do best with a light V-cut, most do best with a medium V-cut, and some with a deep V-cut.

For me, these are the preferred tools:

Light V-cut = Xikar VX
Medium V-cut = Xikar VX2
Deep V-cut = Colibri V-cutter

Most cigars are great with the VX2, but occasionally I'll have to pull out the VX for loosely-packed cigars, or the Colibri for tightly-packed ones. All 3 of these V-cutters definitely have their uses.

By the way, the VX2 in both gunmetal and red look absolutely stunning. The gunmetal is like a muted chrome, and the red looks honest-to-god like an excellent metallic red car paint job. Both are flawless and highly impressive. Product photos DO NOT do justice to the in-person visual experience.

And of course, if your Colibri breaks within 2 years it's a pain in the rear to get fixed, and after 2 years, screw you pal. The Xikars have instant free over-the-counter replacements for life, for any reason whatsoever including dulled blades and finish problems, and everything else. Gotta love that.
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Aahhhh.........grass hopper needs to learn HOW to smoke a Padron 000 series.
Basically, I NEVER do a traditional cut on a Padron 000 series.
A "light" v-cut is the way to go. Then a soft light, and puff light and EASY........the lightest of draws produces plenty of smoke, keeps it cool, and slows down the burn time............and they taste great, especially after a long long nap.
The advantage of a v-cut, is that it's easy to increase, or decrease draw resistance whenever you want.

I've said it before, but one has to learn the best way to smoke certain cigars.
Lots of different components make the "how to smoke" certain cigars.

I gave up pretty fast... started carrying maduro 6000(?) at the shop at your suggestion... they sold well but they weren't for me... 24s and 64s i love!
When my father in law quit smoking i inherited his xikar v cutter but didn't realise i had it until a few months ago... it's all i use on these skinny monsters and that's all I'm smoking right now... I've realized how perfect it can be on these smaller rg's...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I gave up pretty fast... started carrying maduro 6000(?) at the shop at your suggestion... they sold well but they weren't for me... 24s and 64s i love!
When my father in law quit smoking i inherited his xikar v cutter but didn't realise i had it until a few months ago... it's all i use on these skinny monsters and that's all I'm smoking right now... I've realized how perfect it can be on these smaller rg's...

Oh......I see.......of course you love the 24s and 64s............you've become an.................elitist!
Tats, anni series Padrons..........what's next?
Cohibas for breakfast?
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Trinidads, and Por Larrangas are for breakfast.
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