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Trump vs. Obama
dstieger Offline
#1 Posted:
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The next 7 weeks is going to be entertaining...fascinating, even maybe.

Not exactly Foreman/Ali, but maybe Mayweather/Pacquiao


I score Obama with an slight lead in the first round
opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted:
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I think Obama looks like a fool when he chimes in in political issues... He had his 8 years... He ordered a record number of drone strikes to deal with his record number of insecurities and now that he doesn't have that power anymore he's desperately flailing about in an attempt to stay relevant/rich...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#3 Posted:
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...trump also looks like a fool when he chimes in in political issues... For the record...
dstieger Offline
#4 Posted:
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even cripple fights can be fun to watch
opelmanta1900 Offline
#5 Posted:
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Logan Paul vs KSI?
dstieger Offline
#6 Posted:
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I'm afraid that reference is well over my head.

But, if Trump agrees and thinks Obama a political fool, he may get schooled. Nothing about this (or most?) election is really about political issues.

Obama picked up the economy gauntlet and now, it is ON. I think coming right out the gates and telling Trump (re: economy): "You didn't build that!" was a masterful stroke. The economy was probably GOP's single best rallying cry. It was supposed to swing independents and even center-left dems. By sowing any more doubt in Trump's boisterous claims about the economy, he's taking this head on. Trump may have shot himself in the foot worse than first appears with his clearly false claims about GDP:Unemployment rates. Usually, Trump can be tough to pin on factual claims, but this one can't be defended, and coming right after Obama's shots was not good.

I think it's terrible the way Trump has spoken about past presidents. And it is terrible that Obama sought the lower common denominator -- but that horse has left the barn and its going to be a fun ride.
ChristyC@CigarBid Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Logan Paul vs KSI?


Yeah, but which one is Logan Paul, and which one is KSI?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#8 Posted:
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Logan Paul vs KSI was a fight between a white moron who had no business doing what he was doing and a black moron who had no business doing what he was doing...

Millions of morons of many different races tuned in eagerly, with many even donating money to the moron fighter they - for reasons entirely unknown, even to themselves - supported more...

The fight was a draw, although it could be argued there were millions of losers involved...

Trump vs Obama is apparently take 2...
delta1 Offline
#9 Posted:
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nobody here griped when Teddy Roosevelt re-entered presidential politics and ran for President again...

or Herbert Hoover or Harry Truman who remained active in politics after their terms...or GHW Bush, who foisted his sons on us...
dstieger Offline
#10 Posted:
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^8. Gotcha. Thanks....while overall interest in this one probably will be lower, the stake may be a little higher
bgz Offline
#11 Posted:
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Speaking of fights, saw this gem yesterday.

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/savannah-sprague-cheerleader-bully-fight-video/
opelmanta1900 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
nobody here griped when Teddy Roosevelt re-entered presidential politics and ran for President again...

or Herbert Hoover or Harry Truman who remained active in politics after their terms...or GHW Bush, who foisted his sons on us...

It's different now... Besides, I'm sure once trump is out of office you'll never hear anything political out of him again...

Imo, once someone has served their term, that should be it for them and theirs... Politics shouldn't be a family business...
dstieger Offline
#13 Posted:
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I didn't mean to gripe about Obama wading back into politics. I got no problem with that. I take issue with personal attacks, or even harsh criticisms of other presidents, by other presidents.
HuckFinn Offline
#14 Posted:
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I have to admit. It isn't easy listening to Obama speak.
I mean , whole sentences?
tailgater Offline
#15 Posted:
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Trump is Trump.

On the surface, Obama is supposed to be above this.

First rule of fight club is you never talk poorly about the current POTUS.

So much for the high road.



HuckFinn Offline
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tailgater wrote:
Trump is Trump.

On the surface, Obama is supposed to be above this.

First rule of fight club is you never talk poorly about the current POTUS.

So much for the high road.




These days the high road is littered with the corpses of ex-Trump associates.

The best people too...
delta1 Offline
#17 Posted:
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somebody has to speak up and defend democracy...never imagined that we would accept a narcissistic, autocratic and wannabe despot, with grandiose delusions/megalomania, as our leader...
RMAN4443 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
somebody has to speak up and defend democracy...never imagined that we would accept a narcissistic, autocratic and wannabe despot, with grandiose delusions/megalomania, as our leader...

Yeah, but Obama has termed out and can't run anymore and Hildog lost, so we don't have to accept them anymore....horse
DrafterX Offline
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Laugh
tailgater Offline
#20 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
These days the high road is littered with the corpses of ex-Trump associates.

The best people too...


We've mostly agreed that Trump isn't the polished and eloquent politician that his predecessor was/is.

Now we should agree that Obama is literally no better.

The only high road Obamy ever chose was on the train to see mary jane.

At least he inhaled.






tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
somebody has to speak up and defend democracy...never imagined that we would accept a narcissistic, autocratic and wannabe despot, with grandiose delusions/megalomania, as our leader...


Yeah.
Trump is gruff.
The world is ending.

Russia!


HuckFinn Offline
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tailgater wrote:
We've mostly agreed that Trump isn't the polished and eloquent politician that his predecessor was/is.

Now we should agree that Obama is literally no better.

The only high road Obamy ever chose was on the train to see mary jane.

At least he inhaled.







You're right. At least he inhaled. And Obama is eloquent by comparison.
But so was Mel Tillis.

But you're wrong in saying that by going on the campaign trail and pointing out that Trump is an amoral idiot that he's ' no better'.

Man's a politician. Doing what they do. Campaigning!


Plus Obama's funny! And apparently very observant.

opelmanta1900 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
somebody has to speak up and defend democracy...never imagined that we would accept a narcissistic, autocratic and wannabe despot, with grandiose delusions/megalomania, as our leader...

Some would argue that if democracy is so fragile it can be toppled by the election of a single individual to a single office, it's not worth speaking up for...

Perhaps I'm naive, but I'm of the opinion that we can elect some horrific people into office (and we have) without significantly changing who we are as a nation... The checks and balances of the 3 branches perform sufficiently enough that significantly altering the direction our nation is near impossible... I'm not of the opinion that that's a good thing, but it is what it is... From where I stand, it seems that not much changes from election cycle to election cycle, save the headlines...
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Hillary woulda combined all three branches and put them under her foundation... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
You're right. At least he inhaled. And Obama is eloquent by comparison.
But so was Mel Tillis.

But you're wrong in saying that by going on the campaign trail and pointing out that Trump is an amoral idiot that he's ' no better'.

Man's a politician. Doing what they do. Campaigning!


Plus Obama's funny! And apparently very observant.


and Black, so you know just what he wants....Not talking
frankj1 Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Hillary woulda combined all three branches and put them under her foundation... Mellow

foundation?
wasn't that like what granny called her undergarments?
delta1 Offline
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at one time, cons would point to people like Trump and say how despicable he is...but put an R behind his name...

I sincerely hope that the libs would not elect someone like Trump...but if we do, I sincerely hope that I'd be as critical of him/her as I am of Trump...
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OBAMMY sucks at being a DRUG DEALER....

EVERY MASSIVE DRUG DEAL HE TRIES TO MAKE GETS CAUGHT AT SEA BY THE BRITISH NAVY....

AND, HE just lost his "secret compound" in Thailand that was built with stolen money from the multi billion dollar loan to some Chinese conglomerate for Solar and Wind energy....
DELTA FORCE raided Obama's Thailand hideout and found millions in gold bullion...weapons galore...and tons of food and water as a hideout if the Apocalypse goes down....
opelmanta1900 Offline
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delta1 wrote:
at one time, cons would point to people like Trump and say how despicable he is...but put an R behind his name...

I sincerely hope that the libs would not elect someone like Trump...but if we do, I sincerely hope that I'd be as critical of him/her as I am of Trump...

The libs did elect someone like trump... Obama... Smug, arrogant, divisive... Remember that dinner where he roasted trump? True colors...

Only real difference is, instead of using Twitter to deal with his insecurities, obama used drone strikes...
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
The libs did elect someone like trump... Obama... Smug, arrogant, divisive... Remember that dinner where he roasted trump? True colors...

Only real difference is, instead of using Twitter to deal with his insecurities, obama used drone strikes...


I'm all in on the use of drones but we need to know the number of Shiite's vs Sunni's killed to create a real controversy.
bgz Offline
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Drones are cool and stuff.
tailgater Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
You're right. At least he inhaled. And Obama is eloquent by comparison.
But so was Mel Tillis.

But you're wrong in saying that by going on the campaign trail and pointing out that Trump is an amoral idiot that he's ' no better'.

Man's a politician. Doing what they do. Campaigning!


Plus Obama's funny! And apparently very observant.



The fact is, you're wrong.
Former Presidents don't attack current Presidents.

I always assumed that Trump would be the first to break that tradition.

Thanks Obama.



tailgater Offline
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delta1 wrote:
at one time, cons would point to people like Trump and say how despicable he is...but put an R behind his name...

I sincerely hope that the libs would not elect someone like Trump...but if we do, I sincerely hope that I'd be as critical of him/her as I am of Trump...


Not sure if "despicable" is the proper term.

I never liked Trump.
Never saw the Apprentice.
Thought his book sucked.
Never thought he could be president.

But when push came to shove, and in the wake of the divisiveness of Obama and the emboldened politics from the main stream media, it was an easy choice on election day.


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tailgater wrote:
The fact is, you're wrong.
Former Presidents don't attack current Presidents.

I always assumed that Trump would be the first to break that tradition.

Thanks Obama.




Oh?

Teddy Roosevelt on President William McKinley: “No more backbone than a chocolate éclair.”
Perhaps T.R. was inspired by Ulysses S. Grant’s comment on James A. Garfield: “[He] is not possessed of the backbone of an angleworm.”
Lyndon Johnson on Gerald Ford: “Jerry Ford is so dumb that he can’t fart and chew gum at the same time.”
Woodrow Wilson on Warren G. Harding: “He has a bungalow mind.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower, when asked if his veep, Richard Nixon, had contributed any major ideas to Ike’s presidency: “If you give me a week, I might think of one.”
Herbert Hoover on Franklin D. Roosevelt: “[A] chameleon on plaid.”
Calvin Coolidge on Herbert Hoover: “That man has offered me unsolicited advice for six years, all of it bad.”
Thomas Jefferson on John Adams: “A blind, bald, crippled, toothless man who is a hideous hermaphroditic character with neither the force and fitness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.”
John’s son John Quincy Adams on Thomas Jefferson: “A slur upon the moral government of the world.”
And one more from the saltiest president, LBJ, on Nixon: “I may not know much, but I know chicken sh*t from chicken salad.”

Empty rhetoric TG. As usual.
RMAN4443 Offline
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HuckFinn wrote:
Oh?

Teddy Roosevelt on President William McKinley: “No more backbone than a chocolate éclair.”
Perhaps T.R. was inspired by Ulysses S. Grant’s comment on James A. Garfield: “[He] is not possessed of the backbone of an angleworm.”
Lyndon Johnson on Gerald Ford: “Jerry Ford is so dumb that he can’t fart and chew gum at the same time.”
Woodrow Wilson on Warren G. Harding: “He has a bungalow mind.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower, when asked if his veep, Richard Nixon, had contributed any major ideas to Ike’s presidency: “If you give me a week, I might think of one.”
Herbert Hoover on Franklin D. Roosevelt: “[A] chameleon on plaid.”
Calvin Coolidge on Herbert Hoover: “That man has offered me unsolicited advice for six years, all of it bad.”
Thomas Jefferson on John Adams: “A blind, bald, crippled, toothless man who is a hideous hermaphroditic character with neither the force and fitness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.”
John’s son John Quincy Adams on Thomas Jefferson: “A slur upon the moral government of the world.”
And one more from the saltiest president, LBJ, on Nixon: “I may not know much, but I know chicken sh*t from chicken salad.”

Empty rhetoric TG. As usual.

I think your just making chit up now....where's your source material?..Liar
tailgater Offline
#36 Posted:
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HuckFinn wrote:
Oh?

Teddy Roosevelt on President William McKinley: “No more backbone than a chocolate éclair.”
Perhaps T.R. was inspired by Ulysses S. Grant’s comment on James A. Garfield: “[He] is not possessed of the backbone of an angleworm.”
Lyndon Johnson on Gerald Ford: “Jerry Ford is so dumb that he can’t fart and chew gum at the same time.”
Woodrow Wilson on Warren G. Harding: “He has a bungalow mind.”
Dwight D. Eisenhower, when asked if his veep, Richard Nixon, had contributed any major ideas to Ike’s presidency: “If you give me a week, I might think of one.”
Herbert Hoover on Franklin D. Roosevelt: “[A] chameleon on plaid.”
Calvin Coolidge on Herbert Hoover: “That man has offered me unsolicited advice for six years, all of it bad.”
Thomas Jefferson on John Adams: “A blind, bald, crippled, toothless man who is a hideous hermaphroditic character with neither the force and fitness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman.”
John’s son John Quincy Adams on Thomas Jefferson: “A slur upon the moral government of the world.”
And one more from the saltiest president, LBJ, on Nixon: “I may not know much, but I know chicken sh*t from chicken salad.”

Empty rhetoric TG. As usual.


On the campaign trail? Speaking in public?
Or in casual conversation?

Context.
Pretend it's skin color and you'll understand the importance.


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tailgater wrote:
On the campaign trail? Speaking in public?
Or in casual conversation?

Context.
Pretend it's skin color and you'll understand the importance.



Please. Get your tail out from between your legs and begone!
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