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MACS Offline
#151 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
Kavanaugh defended his position by saying that the correct solution for holding a President accountable is the impeachment process. This fails to consider the occasions when the House/Senate/Congress is controlled by the President's party. Justice would hinge on a slim chance that Congress would do the right thing and put country above party...


And you fail to see the part where he says "sitting" president? Dude ain't off the hook, he's just reprieved until he's no longer in office.
MACS Offline
#152 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Anybody whoever touched anybody inappropriately, ever in their lives should be fired.


Right this minute. Any men on this forum who say they never slapped a girls ass in HS are liars. That's sexual misconduct... you're fired.

I grabbed a girls boob... I should probably go to prison for 5-10 years. Nevermind that I was 15 or 16 and it was 33 years ago.
8trackdisco Offline
#153 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,075
MACS wrote:
Right this minute. Any men on this forum who say they never slapped a girls ass in HS are liars. That's sexual misconduct... you're fired.

I grabbed a girls boob... I should probably go to prison for 5-10 years. Nevermind that I was 15 or 16 and it was 33 years ago.


But. If the boob hit the hand (not hand to boob) that is expressing a choice, which should be celebrated, and any man NOT seeing it that way is hurtful, and making them sad.

Coexist!
Mr. Jones Offline
#154 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
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I still SAY....

Broad is being paid to be used as a political pawn...and she's making great money too...

TOTAL B.S.....

FOLLOW THE BAGMAN ( "BIG MAN") ON THE REDEYE
OUTTA NYC...FOLLOW THE SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX OPENINGS IN " MINORS"/ CHILDRENS NAMES...
FOLLOW THE LAWYERS TRAIL FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS...
Put the I.R.S. ON HER , AUDIT HER, SUBPOENA AND ORDER ANY ADULT OR MINOR SAFE DEPOSIT BOXES CONSFISCATED AND OPENED, CONTENTS EXPOSED TO PUBLIC.
SUBPOENA & CHECK SOROS's AND BLOOMBERG's E-MAILS, texts and phone calls ( cell and landline) FOR OVER A YEAR..

ALL OF THIS IS PROLLY ALREADY KNOWN TO THE ILLUMINATE AND THE DEEP STATE...I'M TOTALLY SURE THE C.I.A. KNOWS EVERYTHING ALONG WITH THE N.S.A.,
THEY ARE JUST SITTING ON IT AND WATCHING....
THEY (ALL 4 ) THINK ITS A GAME ...they JUST SIT BACK AND LAUGH PLUS MAKE SIDE BETS ON EVERYTHING
...I KNEW A SPECIALIZED BOOKIE IN GEORGETOWN AT A CERTAIN SPEAKEASY WHO TOOK LARGE bets ( OVER 10 k ) on anything...his customers were CIA, NSA, FBI, SECRET SERVICE AND just really rich priiicks...he wouldn't even talk to politicos or congressmen...to high of a risk.
DrafterX Offline
#155 Posted:
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Do gay guys get beat up there..?? Huh
Mr. Jones Offline
#156 Posted:
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No gays at this SPEAKEASY...

It was a specialized "spookeasy" if there ever was one....

Not saying any super powerful gay spooks were never there, on the contrary, gay spooks know a lot about many many things, they were always assistants to the chief Intel officers with heavy duty access to much info....
Nobody beat them up...they had a special area around a corner in the the back of the speakeasy and a good source for information if the $$ amount was correct...I steered clear of that corner, too much gayness going on...I made enough money with my own straight spook contacts.
Mr. Jones Offline
#157 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
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Grassley and the Republicans...
THROW DOWN THE "NEXT MONDAY OR ELSE DEADLINE GAUNTLET" TO THE N.E.W.L.Y. RICH MS. FORD ACCUSER...

GRASSLEY IS PLAYING HARDBALL and wants SOROS & BLOOMBERG OF HIS AZZ SCREWING WITH HIM AS CHAIRMAN OF THIS COMMITTEE....

MONEY GETS YOU only so far...in Washington, D.C. and public opinion...

Grassley has the only POWER THAT TRUMPS...
Big M.O.N.E.Y...

MONEY TALKS
AND
BULLSHEEEITE WALKS...

BUT POWER IS K.I.N.G.
Mr. Jones Offline
#158 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
Posts: 19,421
Oh yea....

If anyone doubts my connections ...
At A.L.L.

MY GIRLFRIEND AND I TOOK a tour at WITERTUR EARLIER THIS SPRING...IT WAS US AND only MR. GRASSLEY and his immediate family in the small tour group...
That did not happen by chance...
No sirrrrr-reeeeee
Mr. Jones Offline
#159 Posted:
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WINTERTUR...NOT WITERTUR

DUPONT ESTATE in Delaware
opelmanta1900 Offline
#160 Posted:
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Why didn't you use your connections to meet someone cool?
dstieger Offline
#161 Posted:
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I keep hearing talking heads and politicians referring to Anita Hill, and the fact that the WH had the FBI investigate her allegations...and use that as justification to support Ford's attorney's calls for the FBI now....

Sure, the FBI only took three days to investigate Thomas/Hill...and how'd that work out? Asked Thomas a question...asked Hill questions....and spent third day writing a report saying they couldn't verify anything....

Why does anyone think there could be a different outcome here when there are zero witnesses and no evidence?
DrafterX Offline
#162 Posted:
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Posts: 98,548
Just another talking point... Now they can claim 'kavanaugh wasn't fully investigated because Trump didn't order it to happen.. Mellow
victor809 Offline
#163 Posted:
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Wow... Tail with the "she's upset she missed her chance to have sex when a dude tried raping her" defense.

Keeping it exactly as classy as I would expect him to.
dstieger Offline
#164 Posted:
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If there is an investigation, I would like to be in the room when they interview Mark Judge....oh, and that King gal, too...the one who was surprised that people called her after she claimed to know about an assault....'oops...my bad'....lol
victor809 Offline
#165 Posted:
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Yeah... That was not thinking things through.

Of course neither was making pseudonyms like "O'Kavanaugh"... When describing your drunken high school years.
delta1 Offline
#166 Posted:
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There are evidentiary avenues to explore regarding Ford's allegations, such as interviewing classmates and acquaintances of both Ford and Kavanaugh, talking to people familiar with unchaperoned underaged drinking parties at the time, other similar incidents of sexual assault committed by other Georgetown Prep students, interviewing Ford's therapists about her recollections and when she reported them, Ford's closest friends and family members, Mark Judge and his closest friends who attended parties with him in high school, etc.

This is all basic back-ground investigation, which would've been included in the FBI's vetting if the allegations were known at the time Kavanaugh was nominated. They are that serious that they would not have been ignored, and the results would've cleared him or sunk his nomination. The investigation could possibly exonerate Kavanaugh and result in criminal prosecution of Ford. Why refuse to do the investigation now, before a vote to confirm is taken?

A few experienced background investigators can get this done in a couple of weeks. Cons insisted that 8 months before an election was too short a period of time to even discuss a SCOTUS appointment a couple of years ago, refusing to even discuss Merrick Garland. It's less than two months now before an election, but cons want to rush this through...why?
dstieger Offline
#167 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
There are evidentiary avenues to explore regarding Ford's allegations, such as interviewing classmates and acquaintances of both Ford and Kavanaugh, talking to people familiar with unchaperoned underaged drinking parties at the time, other similar incidents of sexual assault committed by other Georgetown Prep students, interviewing Ford's therapists about her recollections and when she reported them, Ford's closest friends and family members, Mark Judge and his closest friends who attended parties with him in high school, etc.

This is all basic back-ground investigation, which would've been included in the FBI's vetting if the allegations were known at the time Kavanaugh was nominated. They are that serious that they would not have been ignored, and the results would've cleared him or sunk his nomination. The investigation could possibly exonerate Kavanaugh and result in criminal prosecution of Ford. Why refuse to do the investigation now, before a vote to confirm is taken?

A few experienced background investigators can get this done in a couple of weeks. Cons insisted that 8 months before an election was too short a period of time to even discuss a SCOTUS appointment a couple of years ago, refusing to even discuss Merrick Garland. It's less than two months now before an election, but cons want to rush this through...why?


delta....you're a good guy, I respect your opinion, and am generally glad to hear your analysis....but I don't find much there to concede....
I don't consider anything highlighted to be material to Ford's claim.
Six investigations completed on background already. IF there were any sort of investigation now, it'd better be absolutely, directly material to Ford's allegations. ...couple of weeks???? Question Ford, Kavanaugh, Judge on day 1....what do you need the other 13 days for?

No doubt, there's some that would like to 'rush this through'. Honestly, I don't see it that way. I see it as not being played by dems and a shifty lawyer....I really don't care if FBI asked to 'investigate'....I am simply 99.9% certain that it couldn't possibly uncover anything factual. I disagree that there's a possibility of evidentiary anything

If I were call NBC and allege that Kavanaugh was responsible for some random, mysterious death in 1994, would you stop everything and demand an FBI investigation because he happened to be in the same town around that time? Silly? Of course....but much different than what he's facing right now?
delta1 Offline
#168 Posted:
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yes, much different...Ford provided time, place and manner details that exhibit some plausibility that the incident occurred, details that could be eliminated or confirmed...

To investigate something like this completely and reducing the possibility of a she said/he said requires identifying people who knew Ford and Kavanaugh and attended parties with them. Start with a roster of classmates, and start contacting them: all of them. Those who knew both and went to the same parties should then be interviewed in person, asap. Those who have knowledge of sexual assaults at these parties, reported to local authorities or not, should be scheduled for in person interviews. This could be exculpatory for Kavanaugh, or provide additional leads.

Talking to people who attended these parties at the time could provide details about whether or not both Ford and Kavanaugh ever attended the same parties. If so, when and where. The length of time this would take depends upon the number of potential witnesses. Let's say there are 50-60 people who knew both Ford and Kavanaugh. Both attended exclusive private schools with small classes, so this is not an unreasonable number. It would take time to contact them. There will be a much smaller number of people who attended parties with both. These people must be interviewed in person, which provides more reliable info...taking more time. If any leads about party locations arise, check those out...more time...

Interview Ford's therapists, and look at their records. Find out when she talked about these incidents and when.

Getting this done then provides some details upon which interviews of Ford and Kavanaugh and Judge can be questioned. This can yield a much better conclusion about the veracity of each, beyond "tell us what you know" and looking for physical signs of deceit or contradictions or inconsistencies in their stories.
DrafterX Offline
#169 Posted:
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Ford did not give a time, place or date... Not talking
teedubbya Offline
#170 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
A FBI investigation for something that cannot be proven......

Love it teedubya, the guys who schits on the "birther" thing every chance he gets. Very rich holmes.



Nonsense. There are all sorts of things the FBI could verify or not verify. Talk to the other dude, talk to both the primaries. See where the stories fall and look for inconsistencies. If she is bunk, I have no doubt the FBI could cast doubt.

In the end it may lead to other folks to talk to or may not. It could be a very quick thing and is common. It's the norm not the exception. This need to know what an investigation will find or not find before doing it is weird.

One person wants to talk to the FBI and the FBI to investigate it. The other doesn't. Yet we automatically doubt the credibility of the one that wants to talk to the fbi rather than to partisans.


As for the birther stuff I really don't get the connection, probably because there isn't one.
delta1 Offline
#171 Posted:
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Here's the political calculation for being thorough: polling shows more people disapprove Kavanaugh's appointment than approve, 36% to 31% with 33% having no opinion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-kavanaugh-poll/opposition-to-kavanaugh-grows-support-at-historic-low-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKCN1LZ1WT

some sources say his numbers are worse than Harriet Miers'.


He had credibility problems before all this, and ironically his insensitivity to sexual misconduct was one of them. He clerked for Judge Alex Kozinski, who was a Judge on the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Judge Kozinski was alleged to have created a hostile work environment and was accused by 15 women of sexual harassment. He retired before the investigation. Many of the accusations of office misconduct happened during Kavanaugh's time as Kozinski's clerk. He said he didn't see any of it. Other clerks who were there at the same time said that would've been impossible.
MACS Offline
#172 Posted:
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She couldn't remember when or where, says she never discussed it... then a classmate said she remembered it being discussed in school, yet Ford said it happened over the summer, and said friend has deleted the post...

It just gets stupider and stupider.
teedubbya Offline
#173 Posted:
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By the way, I don't have him as guilty. I've been falsely accused of something and the investigation sucked. I was cleared because I did nothing but the process was awful.

Investigate.
teedubbya Offline
#174 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
She couldn't remember when or where, says she never discussed it... then a classmate said she remembered it being discussed in school, yet Ford said it happened over the summer, and said friend has deleted the post...

It just gets stupider and stupider.



An investigation would highlight such things if true rather than all the white noise in the press.
delta1 Offline
#175 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
And you fail to see the part where he says "sitting" president? Dude ain't off the hook, he's just reprieved until he's no longer in office.


what if the crime is on-going and causing damage?
victor809 Offline
#176 Posted:
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The interesting thing about this is that investigating really would be in the republicans long term interest...
Dude is going to sit for life... Is there any way of getting rid of him once confirmed?

What happens if this snowballs ala Roger Ailes? We have seen that sometimes when one person speaks out, more come forward. And if this occurred, it likely was attempted other times... Possibly successfully. People don't attempt a double-team rape in a vacuum...

R's should want to know for sure that this isn't true before putting their name on it, or it may lead to something big hanging over their heads for a long time.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#177 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
By the way, I don't have him as guilty. I've been falsely accused of something and the investigation sucked. I was cleared because I did nothing but the process was awful.

Investigate.

Victor wanted me to ask you if you ever found out why drafted lied about you touching his balls...
victor809 Offline
#178 Posted:
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I heard it was because drafter was ugly and was upset he missed his chance to have his balls forcibly touched while he was being held down.....
Speyside Offline
#179 Posted:
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Wow, this became very partisan here. How about investigating this in a timely fashion because that is the best thing to do. Let's clear his good name so he goes onto SCOTUS without this. Or let's stop his nomination because of this. We need an investigation to do either. I have no opinion on this because there are no facts on this, only comments.
teedubbya Offline
#180 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Victor wanted me to ask you if you ever found out why drafted lied about you touching his balls...



Because I refused to do it again after finding out how toxic the solvents were that are required to clean up afterwards.



I really do fear the Rs will push him through then bad truth will come out when it is to late. The Rs will pay a heavy price if thats the case.

I sure hope not.
teedubbya Offline
#181 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Wow, this became very partisan here. How about investigating this in a timely fashion because that is the best thing to do. Let's clear his good name so he goes onto SCOTUS without this. Or let's stop his nomination because of this. We need an investigation to do either. I have no opinion on this because there are no facts on this, only comments.



You my friend are a liberal
rfenst Offline
#182 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Wow, this became very partisan here. How about investigating this in a timely fashion because that is the best thing to do. Let's clear his good name so he goes onto SCOTUS without this. Or let's stop his nomination because of this. We need an investigation to do either. I have no opinion on this because there are no facts on this, only comments.


I agree. Let's not let this wait until after he is appointed.
teedubbya Offline
#183 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I agree. Let's not let this wait until after he is appointed.



You are a liberal too
delta1 Offline
#184 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
Wow, this became very partisan here. How about investigating this in a timely fashion because that is the best thing to do. Let's clear his good name so he goes onto SCOTUS without this. Or let's stop his nomination because of this. We need an investigation to do either. I have no opinion on this because there are no facts on this, only comments.



not sure if his confirmation would have been a slam dunk...several questions about his credibility existed even before these allegations surfaced...
teedubbya Offline
#185 Posted:
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and you both are commies
victor809 Offline
#186 Posted:
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Ironically... This is overshadowing the much more interesting questions about how he payed off enormous debt in a very short time... I think the number was in excess of his annual earnings. The implication is that he has a silent benefactor who he is beholden to.

I find that much less appealing in a judge than his high school behavior. But we aren't even talking about that any more....
rfenst Offline
#187 Posted:
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K's wife has been receiving threatening emails. Unreal...
teedubbya Offline
#188 Posted:
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Isn't it amazing how strongly people feel (pro and con) about other people they don't know and really know nothing about?
DrafterX Offline
#189 Posted:
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Maybe I'm a man
Maybe I'm a lonely man
Who's in the middle of something..
That he doesn't really understand..

Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#190 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Maybe I'm a man
Maybe I'm a lonely man
Who's in the middle of something..
That he doesn't really understand..

Mellow



well being ghey can be confusing but I'm glad you are trying to figure it out. nice job paco.
HuckFinn Offline
#191 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
K's wife has been receiving threatening emails. Unreal...

So has Ford...
delta1 Offline
#192 Posted:
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McConnell said "the people should have a voice" in choosing a justice for the SCOTUS because it is a basic principle. He orchestrated a delay of more than 8 months until the next elections, which turned into 14 months with only 8 judges on the SCOTUS until Gorsuch was seated.

There's less than two months until the next election. What's the "principle" now?
Mr. Jones Offline
#193 Posted:
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People who make death threats to prominent people over a cell phone, landline , or mailed letter are asking for trouble...the NSA tapes everything and the FBI gets involved when stuff crosses state lines.,,,
BUT After the FBI ATTEMPTS TO KILL YOU OVER
8++ TIMES...THEN YOU CAN CALL THEM OUT ON A CIGAR FORUM W/O MUCH RECOURSE TO THEM...TO DO ANYTHING AT ALL.

P.S. what the he'll does K's wife have to do with any of this, she didn't even know the guy in high school...that I know of...
Politics is crazy...you have to be an idiot to run or apply for any political position.
teedubbya Offline
#194 Posted:
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Jones I think the SSG works a little differently than when you used to work for them. Once you left and they turned on you they started rewriting the playbook. Be careful out there.
8trackdisco Offline
#195 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
The interesting thing about this is that investigating really would be in the republicans long term interest...
Dude is going to sit for life... Is there any way of getting rid of him once confirmed?

What happens if this snowballs ala Roger Ailes? We have seen that sometimes when one person speaks out, more come forward. And if this occurred, it likely was attempted other times... Possibly successfully. People don't attempt a double-team rape in a vacuum...

R's should want to know for sure that this isn't true before putting their name on it, or it may lead to something big hanging over their heads for a long time.


Double teaming to rape a vacuum? You, Sir, have spent too much time in the Tenderloin district. Literally and figuratively. whip
8trackdisco Offline
#196 Posted:
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Career envy. This gives her a (dry) bump.

-get on tv.
-talk shows.
-book deal with Strength, Courage, and or Dry in the title.
- aaaaand scene.

For all the talk of Leaning in, empowerment, and equality, there sure is a cottage industry around being a victim.

A couple girls grabbed my butt in high school, during National Grab Ass Week. Guess I have to look them up, try to get them fired, and have you all support my #hetoo campaign.
I'm a victim.
DrafterX Offline
#197 Posted:
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Poor bassard... Sad
DrafterX Offline
#198 Posted:
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Who do I make da check out to..?? Huh
8trackdisco Offline
#199 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Who do I make da check out to..?? Huh


I'm too distract to talk about it!



(Will send pm)
DrafterX Offline
#200 Posted:
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The woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault quickly dismissed a theory that circulated online Thursday that she may have confused him with another classmate.

"There is zero chance that I would confuse them," Christine Blasey Ford said in a statement reported by The Washington Post.

Ford issued the statement after Ed Whelan, a former clerk for the late justice Antonin Scalia who serves as president of the Ethics and Public Policy Center, put forward the theory in a series of tweets that sparked instant backlash online.

Whelan, a supporter of Kavanaugh, identified another former classmate of the judge in a series of tweets, sharing floor plans, maps and other photographs to suggest that Ford may have confused Kavanaugh with the other student.



"To be clear, I have no idea what, if anything, did or did not happen in that bedroom at the top of the stairs, and I therefore do not state, imply or insinuate that [Kavanaugh's classmate] or anyone else committed the sexual assault that Ford alleges," Whelan tweeted.

The Hill could not reach Whelan for immediate comment.

Ford said in her statement reported by The Post on Thursday said that she knew both Kavanaugh and the classmate identified by Whelan, adding that she socialized with them and visited the second classmate in the hospital once.

Ford has accused Kavanaugh of attempting to sexually assault her at a party in the early 1980s when they were in high school.

She has acknowledged that she does not remember at what house or when exactly the alleged assault occurred. Ford has also said she cannot recall how she got to the party or what she did afterward.



Interesting... Think
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