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This is a question I would like to pose to our Atheist friends. If God does not exist how do you explain the existence of the genetic code of DNA and the existence of the laws of physics?

True, but that wasn't my question.

There is no reason to populate an area where we lack knowledge with anything which is not supported by evidence.

It's acceptable to say "we don't know".

It's worse to just make something up because a religion says it happened.

I believe, in my heart, God exists.

So you're saying algore lied?

I'm like a genius.

There has never been any doubt,not one day in my life,that God exist.He may be a little miffed at me when we meet up...........but I certainly won't be the first nor the last.

Reach out and touch faith....

What's crazier... Believing that the universe was created by a higher power, or believing that the whole thing just burst into existence from nothing billions of years ago?

Much like Speyside, I think the whole thing is much too complex to be mere coincidence or blind luck.

The Earth had to be the proper distance from the sun. Then it needed liquid water, and a moon to stabilize the wobble and control the tides and such... and the meteor to wipe out the reptiles so the mammals could take over.

What does she look like and will I get in trouble ?

She wasn't giving any charity?

Well said TG

Religion and the existence of God are two totally different ideas in my mind. Most religions and God's words are supposed to be based on the word of God but are written by the hand of man.

Or . . . . God gave us the power of "free will" and we're f---ing with ourselves.

Neither of these are really true, and both are being looked at from the limited point of view of being on the "inside" of the "system".

The first concept is simply making incorrect assumptions. We as humans have applied the human concept of "code" to DNA. Really it's chains of bonded nucleic acids. A sequence of 3 will cause the RNA machinery to produce a specific amino acid. a sufficient number of amino acids in a row will form a tertiary structure which is a functioning protein. None of that means you have to apply human concepts to in, NOR does it mean it cannot develop through randomness. Remember, we aren't talking short periods of time here.

The second concept is again creating a question where there is no need to be one. "what intelligence controls the laws of physics" is a poorly constructed question, because it assumes in the asking that an intelligence must control a law of physics. Physics is. That's all. what we call "laws of physics" is just humans trying to create a scaffold so we can understand what already is. forces of gravity, electromagnetic forces, these just exist. We apply names to them, and we sketch out their boundaries and apply numbers to them so we can understand them. To then assume there must be an intelligence because we ourselves gave them names and numbers is a false argument.

And both of these questions suffer the constant and extraordinarily tedious error of what I would call "beforeism".... as in, there is something. Well what came before that to create it? "beforeism" suffers the problem that it solves nothing. If you want to claim there must have been an intelligence which came "before" the laws of physics in order to sketch them out, then you just create another question of what came "before" your intelligence to create it. "Beforeism" has no value because it is simply a supposition which spawns an infinity of suppositions.

Poor argument macs.
The earth had to be all those things for OUR existence. Again, this is an argument from the point of view from the "inside" looking "out".
You assume that we were a goal.

We werent.

We are an output. Not a goal.

All the factors which aligned to end up with us, did not do so in order to create us. If the factors had been different, we would be different, and if we had the same marginal intelligence and marginal self awareness we do now, we would probably be touting how amazing it is that all the factors aligned to create us and there must be a god.

The complexity of our world and our existence is not evidence of creation. The complexity is just complexity. Likely due to everything happening without a plan and simply in reaction to other forces.

You are attributing meaning where none exists, simply because you aren't willing to look at the world from a perspective other than the one you're trapped in.

I agree with most of what victor said.

With that said, if you're looking for contemporary spiritual answers, there's a modern following in the panpsychism philosophical discipline.

Basically it hypothesizes that the entire universe is conscious and there's been some actual physics work in the area.

Doesn't come with all the rituals, rules and tithing as more ancient wares do, but there's plenty of material and can make for an entertaining read.

Bonus points for being more probable than most alternatives.

Note: I find it highly improbable that any group of mortals as primitive as us could accurately theorize everything there is to know about the universe in any capacity, let alone the unseen.

You mean the burning bush?

Well, this tree hugging hippie was firing up his doobie, he dropped his lighter catching a bush on fire. That's when Noah rolled up. The hippie being high on some good weed was paranoid because of catching the bush on fire, he freaked out when Noah rolled up and seen the burning bush. So, in a desperate attempt he lied to Noah thinking he was a cop. He told noah that he was Jesus. Lucky for the tree huggin, peace lovin hippie he had just hammered out 10 rules on how he thought men should be and how to promote peace and love across the nation. He gave them to Noah and sent him on his way then he finished his doobie.

I know that dude...

Ya.. known him for quite some time now..

The raining of the frogs was prolly pretty cool... If you're into frog legs that is...

I blame Eve...

Ya.. it was hereditary too... I heard Cain shot Able for eating his potato chips...

No, back then it was frankincense and myrrh... it was the style of the times...

The church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster makes more sense than most religions (and it makes Drafter hungry). Ramen.