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Welcher in Chief...
victor809 Offline
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(get it? An Indian chief reference?)

Reminds me of when he pretended he would give 5mm for Obama's birth certificate. We all knew he was full of sh$t then too.

God... It's like a bad caricature of a grade school child.
bgz Offline
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You probably have more Indian in you than she does.
victor809 Offline
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Not according to the university report.
DrafterX Offline
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No one in their right mind would claim minority status with 1/512 degree blood... Not talking
bgz Offline
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Ya, no sh*t. Liberals are crying about cultural appropriation for little white girls wanting to be Moana for Halloween, and yet they're ok with what this chick did?

She's got so little Native blood in her, that it could be chalked up to her great great great great great great great great grandmother being a swallower instead of a spitter.
rfenst Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
No one in their right mind would claim minority status with 1/512 degree blood... Not talking


Are you sure you have the math right?
victor809 Offline
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The report gave a range of between 1/32 and 1/1024(? May have that off by a small amount). I'm sure whatever media drafter consumed emphasized the smaller portion.

As far as cultural appropriation... Feel free to complain about her cultural appropriation. I'm sure there are some libs somewhere who will agree and March with you....

But she fulfilled the welcher in chief's request, and did show she was a small part native American. Of course he denies ever saying he would donate the million....(it's like he doesn't understand how video works)....
opelmanta1900 Offline
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I heard she just released the short form version of the results...
victor809 Offline
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Short form version? Stormy said that was the p3nis in Chief....
bgz Offline
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Was the test an independent test, or did she have buddy do her a favor?

I know real Cherokees have been requesting proof of ancestry from her for years.

They try to meet with her, try to get her to be concerned with Indian affairs... nothing. She don't care about Indians nor their affairs. Not enough votes for her to care.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Trump is to Victors brain

As

Wieners are to his mouth
bgz Offline
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Here's this, the official reply...

https://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories/20181015_Cherokee-Nation-responds-to-Senator-Warrens-DNA-test

As far as I'm concerned, she didn't prove sh*t... so there's nothing to welsh on.
bgz Offline
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Oh, just so you know, Natives don't like that b*tch.
victor809 Offline
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Do they have to like her for trump to Welch on a "bet"?

Don't distract from the point bgz, or you'll end up like the moron z.

Trump stated "And we will say 'i will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian... We'll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no but we will hold it for the debates"....
He doesn't specify how much native American.
He doesn't specify that she support native American causes
He doesn't state that native Americans have to like her.
Your own link stated "DNA tests can be used to determine lineage..." Their claim that it doesn't provide tribal affiliation is irrelevant, I don't think she is asking for tribal affiliation, and trump did not specify it.


He welched....
frankj1 Offline
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bgz wrote:
and yet they're ok with what this chick did?


what is it that people think she actually did?
bgz Offline
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She's less Indian than the average European American with family that's been in the country for over a century or two... how's that proof of anything?

It's not... she didn't prove sh*t.

I don't think you understand how often white people claim to have Cherokee blood when they find out you're native...

Seriously, it's been the biggest, longest running inside joke for Natives since like... forever.

We learn of this phenomenon at a very early age, and the joke never gets old anytime you hear it... until you hear about a b*tch like that who used it for personal gain. Then it's not so funny.

Because some test says you have descended from some form of native hundreds of years ago doesn't make you a native.

That b*tch isn't a native, and I don't care what some test says.

Also, you're harping on Trump welshing on a bet, I didn't give my opinion whether I think Trump should pay or not in my previous posts...

With that, I think Trump should pay, lol.

With one caveat... only if the cause is directly related to Natives, because you know that c**tbag isn't going to donate any of her cash to Native causes.
victor809 Offline
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The funny thing is that I bet a bunch of people, when they get their little 23&me results talk about how they're x% whatever... And that its meaningful... (Spoiler, it isn't)

But now that this woman did it, suddenly whatever percentage she was identified as is not legitimate. (Spoiler, it still isn't meaningful)...

No one actually expected trump to fulfill his end of the deal. We all know that even if her little test said she was 100% native American, he'd just blow it off and keep calling her Pocahontas. There was never any doubt that he wouldn't follow through on what he said. And his supporters probably don't care.

I'm just posting this to point out that once again, our president has proven himself to have less maturity than a grade school child.
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I could agree with your last part bgz... That would be amusing and punish both of them.
frankj1 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
what is it that people think she actually did?

RMAN4443 Offline
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She's gonna raisum heap big taxes...makum everyone pay much wampum for many moons....except her, she knows many paths to avoid wampum trail
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Pretty sure she is 100% Fugarwe
bgz Offline
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victor809 wrote:
I could agree with your last part bgz... That would be amusing and punish both of them.


If Trump paid, I think it would actually help him... call it advertising.
bgz Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
what is it that people think she actually did?


She went around claiming she was Cherokee to anyone who would listen for the purpose of personal gain.
dstieger Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
what is it that people think she actually did?

Never been clear to me that she did much of anything other than list it somewhere that may not have related to hiring or promotion decisions. And even at 1/64th or whatever, I think is enough to be recognized as Cherokee. I can't stand her politics, but Trump should be eating crow...and probably offering up a donation...maybe not a million, but something. Besides, he said he's worth like 700M, right? What's a measly mil?
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bgz wrote:
She went around claiming she was Cherokee to anyone who would listen for the purpose of personal gain.

never heard her claim she is Cherokee, heard her say mother and grandmother told the family they had some in their family...they were from OK after all. She believed the stories growing up...

but like what personal gain?
bgz Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Never been clear to me that she did much of anything other than list it somewhere that may not have related to hiring or promotion decisions. And even at 1/64th or whatever, I think is enough to be recognized as Cherokee. I can't stand her politics, but Trump should be eating crow...and probably offering up a donation...maybe not a million, but something. Besides, he said he's worth like 700M, right? What's a measly mil?


If we heard about it, then she made the claim more than she should have.
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victor809 wrote:
The report gave a range of between 1/32 and 1/1024(? May have that off by a small amount). I'm sure whatever media drafter consumed emphasized the smaller portion.

As far as cultural appropriation... Feel free to complain about her cultural appropriation. I'm sure there are some libs somewhere who will agree and March with you....

But she fulfilled the welcher in chief's request, and did show she was a small part native American. Of course he denies ever saying he would donate the million....(it's like he doesn't understand how video works)....


1/32 to 1/1024 = great, great, great grand parent - great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grand parent.

Maybe the toenail on her left pinky toe is an Indian.

That being said he should pay if for no other reason than as Rx for his having constipation of the brain and diarrhea of the mouth and/or Twitter finger.
frankj1 Offline
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dstieger wrote:
Never been clear to me that she did much of anything other than list it somewhere that may not have related to hiring or promotion decisions. And even at 1/64th or whatever, I think is enough to be recognized as Cherokee. I can't stand her politics, but Trump should be eating crow...and probably offering up a donation...maybe not a million, but something. Besides, he said he's worth like 700M, right? What's a measly mil?

pretty sure she listed it on her Harvard entrance application. Very well may have walked in without it anyway, (turns out it was based on fact)...love her or hate her, she is an accomplished scholar.

I'd rather she not run for POTUS but do like a lot (not all!) of stuff she's done as a senator from MA.
She may be the only one making noise about the return of the Wall St/Banking thieves to power.
bgz Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
never heard her claim she is Cherokee, heard her say mother and grandmother told the family they had some in their family...they were from OK after all. She believed the stories growing up...

but like what personal gain?


I'm not Cherokee frank, you would have to ask them. She did enough to piss them off and make them hate her, so I have to assume she was a habitual story teller (I've heard the high cheekbone evidence once or twice, or a few hundred, I forget).

Also, read your post where she listed it on Harvard entrance application... with that, you answered your own question, regardless of if it helped her or not... she still did it.
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Is saying the Cherokee hate Warren sort of the same as Huck saying all black people hate trump?

Kinda lumping the whole group together as a single entity and not giving them any individual agency....

Probably some Cherokee who don't give a rats azz about her... Probably some who hate her... Probably some who vote for her. I would assume that they would like or dislike her for their own reasons regardless of what we say...
bgz Offline
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Not the same as Huck and the blacks... it would be more like if Huck was a black person from the Bronx speaking for black people in Compton... it would be more like that...

But Huck's not black, so it's not the same.

Personally, I've only met people who claimed their great great... great such and such was a Cherokee, I don't recall ever meeting an actual Cherokee, so you may be right. Some might love her... but I doubt it.

One thing I know for certain, it gets annoying after a while when white people claim to be Cherokee to non-Cherokee Natives (ie... I get annoyed... and every other Native I know gets annoyed), I can only imagine what it's like for an actual Cherokee.

You know it's coming too... they ask you what heritage you are, when you tell them... their eyes get all big, they puff up their shoulders, and raise their chin... then it comes out...

My great, great, ..., great ...

If you're trying to sell them something, you can interject...

let me guess, Cherokee.

How did you know?

I think it's the high cheek bones.


The phenomenon is real, why? I have no f***ing clue... and all Natives have to deal with it from time to time.
frankj1 Offline
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I'm a Member of the Tribe...one of the lost tribes though...HA!
frankj1 Offline
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bgz wrote:
I'm not Cherokee frank, you would have to ask them. She did enough to piss them off and make them hate her, so I have to assume she was a habitual story teller (I've heard the high cheekbone evidence once or twice, or a few hundred, I forget).

Also, read your post where she listed it on Harvard entrance application... with that, you answered your own question, regardless of if it helped her or not... she still did it.

OK. Was just asking what personal gain you were referencing.
I'll ask a Cherokee.
bgz Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
OK. Was just asking what personal gain you were referencing.
I'll ask a Cherokee.


Make sure and ask to see their papers.
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LMAO
frankj1 Offline
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bgz wrote:
Make sure and ask to see their papers.

will it cost me a million bucks?
ZRX1200 Offline
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https://trendingviews.co/video/elizabeth-warren-says-her-parents-were-oppressed-because-her-mom-was-cherokee-indian-4010.html
bgz Offline
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Wow Z... she's worse than I thought...
Speyside Offline
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Say it ain't so, she can't be the Democrats choice for 2020. Can she?
Abrignac Offline
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Speyside wrote:
Say it ain't so, she can't be the Democrats choice for 2020. Can she?



Why are you surprised? Look at not who, but what they chose as a standard bearer in 2016.
MACS Offline
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I was vaguely aware that Victor had TDS.

Poor Victor.
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Anthony, I would say I would not be suprised, but rather dissapointed.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Victor never surprises me.....
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Buried in the Boston Globe story is this bombshell: “To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American.” So all the test proved is that Warren might be 1/64 to 1/1024 Mexican, Peruvian, or Colombian — which again makes her no different than the average white American.
ZRX1200 Offline
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He offered to pay if HE TESTED HER........but hey why ruin obsesses much’s story....
bgz Offline
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Hunted down Z's article.

Quote:

Warren has 12 times more Native American blood than a white person from Great Britain and 10 times more than a white person from Utah, the report found.


Really, Great Britain and Utah?

Wouldn't the logical comparison be with white people from Oklahoma?

Quote:

The University of Pennsylvania filled out a document explaining why it hired a white woman over minority candidates — clear evidence it didn’t view her as a Native American addition. And the Globe interviewed 31 Harvard Law School faculty members who voted on her appointment there, and all said her heritage was not a factor.


Gotta call BS on that one... they had the best of both worlds with her... a white woman that says she's Native... Would they have picked her if she didn't say she was Native? That's the question we'll never know, but my gut tells me no, they wouldn't have. They can come out later and say... oh look, we hired a minority after all. Not buying it.

Abrignac Offline
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Well it seems her DNA tests prove she has some South American blood in her. Not sure I’d call that Native American, but since it fits her narrative, why not I guess?
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He's an INDIAN GIVER!





*See Vic......that's how you do that joke*
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Coming from a population of Trump apologists who will lovingly overlook stupid chit said about himself almost daily... this whole manufactured outrage event is rather mindboggling.
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She started it.. Not talking
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