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(like my ghetto slang?)

Isn't blaming trump for this incident akin to blaming the Muslim religion when an Islamic terrorist blows up a suicide bomb or blaming grand theft auto when someone runs from the police?

Don't the actions of a crazy man belong to the crazy man? Like eminem said, "I just said it... I didn't know if you'd do it or not..."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=0s&list=LLbTz5CCyNKfz5MQmaUciVZw&v=vk_CcuTerM8&index=3

and hoopi and the rest of the girls on "The View" are just kidding....

If the "pope" called abortion clinics the enemy of God, and a Catholic tried blowing them up, I would argue he bears responsibility. If whatever pope Islam has called Americans the enemy of Allah, and an Islam tried blowing us up, I would say they bear some responsibility (incidentally they don't have a single head of their religion, so it simply doesn't fit easily).

The difference is that when most people rise to power they learn to keep their mouths shut, and be more diplomatic when it comes to their opposition. You'll be hard pressed to find someone at a level near trump who acts as recklessly as he does (unless you go back in history, or include 3rd world despots). Entertainers hardly count as they are not expected to provide leadership, that's not the role they play in society.

All the whataboutism from the theoretical party of responsibility is hilarious though.

I'd never get into a discussion while suggesting that ether nationalism or globalism is evil. Seems like a silly hypothetical. However, I did learn (after the Pittsburgh shooting) something I was oblivious to. Apparently some lunatic fringes 'believe' (or say or presume..) that there is a strong association between Jewish people and 'globalists', however they define globalists. I had no idea and don't know the origination. Entirely possible that Trump wasn't aware before he lit into globalists, either. But, he should be aware now....and I'd appreciate it ...that if he feels the need to hold up globalization as an Evil Threat, that he get off the rally sound bites for a minute and explain what he means; so as to perhaps give the crazies a bit of a gut check.....or at least prevent them from claiming that Trump emboldened, if not supported, them.

I'm feeling like a broken record, but once again, I think that Trump could go a long ways towards what I might consider appropriate presidenting by calling out unsupportable ideas and people, even if they voted for him.

Dave, those would be anti-zionists.

And they can be wackadoodles who happen to be anti-globalists as it can squeeze into their doctrine. And can be very anti-Semitic

You might be better for it bro.

The actions each and everyone one of us takes or fails to take ripple through the pond of humanity with widespread effect that we are forever unaware of... I won't blame you solely, but perhaps you should look at the connecting between the life of luxury you live and the lives of poverty lived by those who build the very luxuries you enjoy...

PM me an address and I'll send 'em a dollar....


But, I submit that Trump makes bigger ripples than I do

So you think his words ripple more than your actions?

Why would you think it wouldn't? Can you prove it? Just trying to figure out on what basis you could call a guy like Hitler "bad"...

You've been a staunch supporter of population control.... My point was that Hitler found a way to control population without feeling the emotions that would stop a normal person from solving the problem via that solution... My point was that that is representative of a more evolved person... If your emotions or morality or whatever you want to call it stops you from doing what needs to be done to ensure the success of your species, then you are less evolved than someone who has no such restrictions on their desire... It's just a thought,not an accusation... I'm just doing some thinking...

Also, what is stronger, and is it more valuable than smarter?

Also,also, if your explanation for why Hitler was a bad dude hinges only on the scientific belief that genetic diversity is greater than no diversity, if we find out that's wrong does that mean Hitler wasn't bad?

And sickle cell anemia actually turns out to be a horrible genetic condition that only affects one group of people... You realize if we could just wipe out those people the world would be free of sickle cell, but if we allow them to interbreed with the rest of the population, the condition could evolve to effect more and more groups of people...

I think it's ironic that you chose sickle cell (I don't know anymore actually... I think the vast amount of irony in our political world may have broken the definition of irony....)

I thought everyone knew about sickle cell anemia... it's a classic example of traits which may otherwise weaken a population actually keeping it alive. Look up sickle cell and malaria.

Homeless people are genetically diverse...don't they make our population stronger...why do you get to decide your superior to them(irony there?)? Why do you kick them when their down? Doesn't their genetic diversity improve our species chances to overcome adversity?

Only if you're dumb enough to think homelessness is a genetic trait.

OK.
You're right.
The democrat politicians are praising him every chance they get...

As for numbers, it's odd that a guy who props up schooling as the end-all to intelligence should dismiss actual figures.
60MM people and ONE went berserk.
And you are telling us that he would not have gone berserk if Trump were not President.
And no one else would have gone berserk.
LOL!
Even the hard core birthers have nothing on you.

North Korea is probably just the exception to prove the rule

Hah... this post exactly translates to "I couldn't find anything"



First off... we've had more than one. Are you forgetting the others?

Second, we don't know. What do we know? We know that we have a president calling journalists "enemies of the people". Did that tip the scales for this guy? or would he have done this if trump stayed as a 3rd tier real estate mogul and 5th tier reality star? maybe. We can't predict what would have happened.

But how many times are you going to say he has no impact on it?

I mean.. somewhere along the lines a pattern starts to emerge.

And no. Your numbers are actually meaningless. If you want your numbers to actually have a meaning, you need to compare them to something. Do some math with it. Tell me that of the 60mm people, the amount of violence is normal by comparing it to 6 years ago or something.

But I don't have to prove anything here.
It is YOU who is stating that President Trump is the reason for the pipe bombing dude.

I'm not asking you to provide a researched dissertation. I'm just pointing out the obvious: that if you take ANY 60 million people there will be at least one wingnut bent on killing people.
Did Trump's mean words provide a target? Maybe.
But it's not WHY he did it. It's just WHO he targeted.

But you want to blame Trump.
Seems moronic. But who am I to stop you?

...just out of curiosity, who exactly am I trying to score points with?
.....and I'm not going to go track down how many homeless addicts you,in your infinite wisdom, think need to be kicked

Its very simple.
We have a lot of people. Some are crazy, and literally just a bad morning away from doing something stupid. Some are just waiting for a reason to do something stupid.

Maybe if trump weren't around some percentage would have been set off by someone else. But if just one of them chose to attack a bunch of people simply because the president of the united states told him there is an enemy within the country who he should attack.... that's one more than we would have had otherwise.

Some people are just looking for a good reason to kill. And you telling them someone needs to die isn't a good enough reason. But the president identifying someone as the enemy? That's a bit more of a reason.

At least the 150. Do I hear 200?