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MMJ Card thoughts
grmcooper Offline
#1 Posted:
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I'm looking into getting my medical marijuana card. The meds for pain I get just don't work. Lots of people say it's the way to go for pain relief. I have never used MJ so it's completely new to me. What are your thoughts good and bad?

grmcooper Offline
#2 Posted:
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Oh ***PING RAM!!!!***
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Even the CBD oil is good.
danmdevries Offline
#4 Posted:
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If it's an option, explore it.
delta1 Offline
#5 Posted:
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give it a try...I've heard it is much better than opioids and less addictive...

I personally get too paranoid so I can't use it...
grmcooper Offline
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I need to get a couple things straight. I can't take a narcotic. I can't take THC. I have a commercial driver's license and I drive a company pickup truck. We take random drug tests. I understand that CBD is a very good drug. I also understand that THC with CBD improves the effect of the CBD. Getting this card would be a major risk. Career-ending if I got in an accident. I can get around random drug tests, I can always send someone else.

I need relief from fibromyalgia. I've tried everything on the market. It's really starting to wear me down. It's just about the only thing I haven't tried.
grmcooper Offline
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Big Chief had a doctor that gave him the medical marijuana pamphlet. I told him to get it what the hell do you have to lose?

It's kind of scary when your family doctor gives you the information for medical marijuana. Is my doctor giving up is what I thought to myself. just about every other doctor has given up because every drug on the market they've tried on me. If a pill doesn't make you feel better nowadays the doctors don't know what to do.
Kind of freaked me out a little bit.
danmdevries Offline
#8 Posted:
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The CDL part is an issue.
grmcooper Offline
#9 Posted:
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You think?
MACS Offline
#10 Posted:
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Try CBD. You will not pop on a random urinalysis for CBD and it doesn't impair you.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#11 Posted:
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CBD(-95) is a boiler water treatment chemical in my world. I wouldn't recommend taking it. Death by descaler does not sound fun.

Mike, are you positive that the DMV can't cross check you in the other state databases to find out you have a medical card?

THC and machines don't mix. Could tell you stories, but we all have them. The names and machines change, The injuries don't.

KingoftheCove Offline
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Any chance you can take some timeoff?
You will course need to find a reliable source for CBD only medicine.
I don't care what others say, I know for a fact that for MANY auto immune conditions, and a host of other chronic ailments, MM is a life changer.

But as noted, the dang CDL makes it so complicated and risky.
Getting some time off to try it is the route I would take as a first step.

Then, if you find it works well enough to consider it, take another week or so off down the road, take the medicine and figure out a way to get yourself "tested"..........not officially of course, but tested to see what results look like.

Good luck.
Food allergies is slowly gaining traction as a possible cause for your condition.....just FYI.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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grmcooper wrote:
I'm looking into getting my medical marijuana card. The meds for pain I get just don't work. Lots of people say it's the way to go for pain relief. I have never used MJ so it's completely new to me. What are your thoughts good and bad?


Hello friend... Smoking pot is fun and can definitely provide some amount of pain relief...

Have you tried just CBD yet? No need to mix in thc get unless you know CBD alone won't cut it... You can't fail a drug test from CBD so it seems risk free...

Hemp derived cbd is popular in az but it's weak...

Full spectrum CBD is great but it contains trace thc and could get you in some trouble for possessing it, but again, you won't fail a drug test or get high...

CBD isolate (I highly recommend bhang products if you can get them) contain no thc, but because it's derived from marijuana instead of hemp, it gets treated differently out there in terms of possession...

The CBD isolate is your best bet for pain management and you have no fear of a failed drug test... There's no upper limit, so go crazy... Tons of options for how to take it...

Good luck, hope you get some relief...
grmcooper Offline
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King I was tested for food allergies. I don't have any food allergies but I do have medication allergies. I've heard that CBD works the best with just a hint of THC. I guess I'll know after my appointment on the 21st
opelmanta1900 Offline
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It feels better with thc, but I've used it on its own plenty... I think the big difference is in hemp-derived vs marijuana-derived...

If isolate has no effect, then I'd try full spectrum... If that doesn't do it, then try pot, and then concentrates... Unless, of course, you just really wanna get high... Which is what it sounds like... I dig it... Maybe look for work as a bud tender?
Mr. Jones Offline
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COOP!!!

GO EASY...TREAD LIGHT...

soooooo many things to think about.
*Your CDL
*WILL IT WORK
*LOSING YOUR CDL AND INCOME
*LOSING ALL GUN OWNERSHIP RIGHTS ( and believe me,
A MED MAR CARD in N.O.T. worth losing all your guns over) not sure if you can transfer your guns to your wife?
( many if not all states require this but many never tell you until a nosey cop Gets up into your business for a totally unrelated infraction of some sort..,like a traffic violation, noise ordinance complaint, jealous neighbor complains about you....then over zealous young or old cops will delve into your entire life once they know you have a MMC , then get a search warrant to confiscate ALL YOUR GUNS and make your life a LIVING nightmare!!)

I have been in intense PAIN! SINCE APRIL 1, 2018 just days after what I called "the GOOD FRIDAY OR EASTER AMBUSH"
1/4 -1/2 MILE FROM MY CABIN...over 300 shots , 5-6 different calibers in 2-3 minutes....it was so close to me cutting wood , I ducked and hit the dirt...after those few minutes...
Silence...
Then two different SCREAMING human voices...then ...
pop pop
And pop pop ...again...THEN TOTAL silence...

6-8 SSG AGENTS OR HIRED REDNECK LOOKING ASSASSINS (I saw 2 hours before , blocking my jeep on a small country road for over a minute giving me death stares and would not get out of my way while my girlfriend and me were in my JEEP w/ a sawed off 12ga pump ready to rock and roll...but they finally moved)...

The following Monday ...

I COULD NOT WALK!!! EARS RANG LIKE A S.O.B...
INTENSE PAIN LEVELS" 6-10" FOR 3+ MONTHS...
EATING MOTRIN AND TYLENOL, TAKING OLD DENTAL OXY SCRIPTS I'd saved up for back pain...drinking to kill the pain...
I still have bad pain...muscle and joint pain, fluid filled knees, wrists can barely bend...thighs sore...
4 doctors / specialist A.L.L. totally STUMPED...8-12? BLOOD TESTS , Lyme negative, gout negative, arthritis negative ....

I'm NOT STUMPED AT ALL... I AM BEING E.M.R.'d and MICROWAVED BY THE FBI-SSG everyday since that ambush described above^^^ Those sick murdering law dogs weren't expecting my "ghillie suited Truman Ghost buddies" in the woods near my cabin...and they lost many agents..never on the news, never reported...just like it "never happened"...
BUT IT DID H.A.P.P.E.N. and IN SPADES for those killers....

Now they pay my neighbors in cash to microwave my sorry ASS and there is NO CURE TO MICROWAVE persecution,
Thousands of Targeted Individuals are going through the EXACT same thing I am everyday ....
all over this country...

I hope you get relief through CBD OIL...OVER THE COUNTER AND LEGAL

DO NOT GET AN "M.M.C.", IS MY ADVICE
opelmanta1900 Offline
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After reading that I'm gonna go get like 6 of them...
Mr. Jones Offline
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^^ I hope you own a ghillie suit...

They a Wiley PRICKS who travel in packs...they are N.E.V.E.R. ALONE...

GOD LUCK OPEL
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
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Coop, I use Charlotte's Web hemp extract, but it's not suppose to contain any THC. When I had the torn ligaments and cracked knee cap a few months back, the hemp extract helped when opioids wouldn't. Just be careful when buying CBD and find a reputable tested brand. The FDA tested a bunch of CBD oils a few years back, and many of them contained no CBD, or only a trace amount.

David
JadeRose Offline
#20 Posted:
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You're not a dumbass, Cooper. You know damn good and well what happens if you get popped with an MMC. I don't know **** about any CBD and it's too bad you can't smoke weed but you just can't. I got some Kratom I've been meaning to try for minor aches and pains but I keep forgetting I have it.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Kratom is not a cure all or even can hurt certain people...
Other native growing areas praise it's pain killing power?

COOP,
I sincerely hope you find a pain cure but just exhaust all the LEGAL non THC HEMP OILS AND CBD EXTRACTS FIRST.
Research your states firearms ownership laws and Mar. medical CARDS ( it may be a NO GUNS allowed state?)
cacman Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
The CDL part is an issue.

This is the quagmire with MJ.
Regardless if medical MJ is legal in your State, it is still against Federal law.

Not sure if CBD use will show positive on a drug test. But don't eat any poppy seed!

Kratom is also illegal in many States.

Best of luck with you pain management.. Try natural herb tinctures.
cacman Offline
#23 Posted:
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grmcooper wrote:
Big Chief had a doctor that gave him the medical marijuana pamphlet. I told him to get it what the hell do you have to lose?

It's kind of scary when your family doctor gives you the information for medical marijuana. Is my doctor giving up is what I thought to myself. just about every other doctor has given up because every drug on the market they've tried on me. If a pill doesn't make you feel better nowadays the doctors don't know what to do.
Kind of freaked me out a little bit.

Took my 80yr old FIL to a MJ dispensary because he was seeking pain relief from shingles. He was tired of the drugs (including opiates) that his doc was suggesting. He's from the 40's generation and grew up believing MJ is as bad a heroin. It freaked him out too when MJ was suggested as an alternative on a 2nd opinion from his primary doc. But he also has a CDL (lower Class than yours) and refrains from use during driving season because of the uncertainty with the drug tests.

Due to the recent opiate epidemic created by Big Pharma, more Docs in MJ friendly States are suggesting MJ as an alternative due to the increased restrictions on opiates. This is the trend.
rfenst Offline
#24 Posted:
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There is a new cannabis based CBD that was just cleared for regular Rx by the FDA. No MJ card required!
KingoftheCove Offline
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rfenst wrote:
There is a new cannabis based CBD that was just cleared for regular Rx by the FDA. No MJ card required!

The first hurdle........... finally cleared...
grmcooper Offline
#26 Posted:
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Well I will see what the doctor says on the 21st. I might just try some from a friend and see what it does. (Probably make me fatter and sleep more) I'd never get the Chevelle running.
Mr. Jones Offline
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Well .... that ^^^ was a non-eventful response....

Good luck coop.
KingoftheCove Offline
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grmcooper wrote:
Well I will see what the doctor says on the 21st. I might just try some from a friend and see what it does. (Probably make me fatter and sleep more) I'd never get the Chevelle running.

Yeah, well the donuts will taste extra good as you gaze upon the Chevelle, and dream about all the stuff you're gonna do to it!
grmcooper Offline
#29 Posted:
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Day 2 on the THC. I used it the night before and then used CBD in the morning and at lunch. Day one was painless. Let's see what day two brings.
rfenst Offline
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grmcooper wrote:
Day 2 on the THC. I used it the night before and then used CBD in the morning and at lunch. Day one was painless. Let's see what day two brings.


Congrats for painlessness.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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have you discovered your love for bob marley yet?
grmcooper Offline
#32 Posted:
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Lol one little nugget off a bud got me high as hell the first night.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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ya, that'll keep happening for a little while... really, your first year of regular smoking, one or two hits are gonna get you baked... really glad to hear it's helping... totally wasn't kidding about the reggae... it's the third active drug in herb... start with the kaya album...
KingoftheCove Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
ya, that'll keep happening for a little while... really, your first year of regular smoking, one or two hits are gonna get you baked... really glad to hear it's helping... totally wasn't kidding about the reggae... it's the third active drug in herb... start with the kaya album...


Got to have kaya now
For the rain is falling
grmcooper Offline
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Update... I smoked nightly for 4 days. Then I started getting withdrals from one of the meds they have me on. That's pure hell. It's been 5 days and still not feeling better in my head. I had to put the MMJ down while getting off this other garbage. So in a couple weeks my card will be in and I'm thinking about eatables and a vape pen type device to deliver the medication.

I'm still on the fence about the whole thing. Time will tell. I definitely don't like the high felling. I need small doses for sure.
Ewok126 Offline
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Tried a One Hitter? No more than one to two puffs in those. I would suggest being off the other med's before going on through with the MMJ. Especially if they are psychotics or pain type med's. Also just a suggestion. Only partake right before you lay down to sleep and I mean RIGHT BEFORE. More than likely you will fall asleep a bit before the "high feeling" hits.
grmcooper Offline
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Yes good info. I was hitting it when I got home then another time before bed. Then going right to bed. I'm not on any heavy pain meds or anything like that. I have two that are hard to get off of. That's why I stopped smoking. I didn't want the withdrawal and the high. I would have lost what mind I have left. Lol
I hope the vape pen will work for a small dose and lay it down lol.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Did you go indica or sativa? It makes a really big difference to the occasional smoker...

Edibles, probably a really bad idea... If you aren't digging that super high feeling, you'll hate edibles... When thc is processed through your liver it unlocks an additional psychoactive property, and quite frankly, you're gonna trip balls... And not in an enjoyable way...

The vape pens, lots of people like them... I'm skeptical... It's definitely a less clear headed high...

Sounds like your best bet might be to get your hands on some truly mid-grade stuff... The high will be far more manageable... And kissy one small hit out of a water filtrated pipe should be plenty for you... If you feel like you need another hit, always wait 20 minutes...

Good luck to you...
opelmanta1900 Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
Tried a One Hitter? No more than one to two puffs in those. I would suggest being off the other med's before going on through with the MMJ. Especially if they are psychotics or pain type med's. Also just a suggestion. Only partake right before you lay down to sleep and I mean RIGHT BEFORE. More than likely you will fall asleep a bit before the "high feeling" hits.

No, no, no... Lol... That's like the worst thing you can do... Never lie down after smoking... Keep your eyes open... Walk around frequently... Keep easy access to a game on your phone, a crossword, or something else that's enjoyably challenging to your mind... Sip a little coffee, snack on some popcorn or pretzels... Don't lie down until you know you're coming down...
Ewok126 Offline
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^^^ Lmao... Ok I got to ask why? Well other than the wasted opportunity of feeling great, being creative, and supper Happy lol
grmcooper Offline
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I just don't like the feeling.

Opel. Good info for sure.Dude I was so high it was insane. It was on accident. I thought I was Joey Diez. He says he dips his balls in 60mg lmao
opelmanta1900 Offline
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For one, it's not good for your sleep cycle... The sleep you get basically doesn't count as sleep... Even if you don't notice, you wake up when the high where's off, and then your actual sleep cycle starts...

Second, if you're having trouble handling the intensity of a marijuana high, the worse thing you can do is start shutting off senses... You want to keep them engaged...
opelmanta1900 Offline
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grmcooper wrote:
I just don't like the feeling.

Opel. Good info for sure.Dude I was so high it was insane. It was on accident. I thought I was Joey Diez. He says he dips his balls in 60mg lmao

Even diaz has laid off of the edibles from what I understand...

Something new I've been doing that you might dig... I roll a spliff - 1/2 Solani Aged Burley Pipe tobacco and 1/2 herb... Smoke the whole thing, but don't inhale, just retrohale... You'll get a relaxed little high but definitely nothing intense...
teedubbya Offline
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Or 90% cbid flower 10% mj
Ewok126 Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Or 90% cbid flower 10% mj

Who can afford the Cbid flower taxes Anxious
Ewok126 Offline
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
For one, it's not good for your sleep cycle... The sleep you get basically doesn't count as sleep... Even if you don't notice, you wake up when the high where's off, and then your actual sleep cycle starts...

Second, if you're having trouble handling the intensity of a marijuana high, the worse thing you can do is start shutting off senses... You want to keep them engaged...



Sounds like this fellow knows his chit for sure. This is above my knowledge. I just might have to give this regimen a go myself.Beer
RMAN4443 Offline
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I actually think the edibles are great...it's more of a body buzz, doesn't really give you a brain buzz, but totally relaxes your body, so I would think it would be the better route for pain relief with the minimal "high feeling"...YMMV
grmcooper Offline
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Yes that's what I need. I need my body to chill out.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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"When you consume cannabis in an ingestible form, its THC is metabolized by the liver, which converts it to 11-hydroxy-THC. This active metabolite is particularly effective in crossing the blood-brain barrier, resulting in a more intense high. Inhaled THC undergoes a different metabolic process because rather than passing through the stomach and then the liver, the THC travels directly to the brain. This is why the effects of smoked or vaporized cannabis come on faster and diminish quickly."

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/differences-between-marijuana-edibles-and-flower
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Honestly coop, if you're not a fan of the intense high, edibles might turn toy off of herb for good... If I were in your shoes, I would start micro dosing... place a tiny, tiny, tiny little bit of bud in a pipe and apply the flame for a micro second... Literally smoke so little that when you blow the smoke out, hardly anything comes out... Do that first thing in the morning, again around 10, and then as needed from there... The point is to never feel the high but still experience the relief...

Rman, I think your dealer is giving you placebos... Edibles provide a much longer, much more intense high that smoke...
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