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Original Comacho's.
Ram09 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
Hey guys, i have been digging around and i just found a full box of comacho saint louis y martinez and a signature sampler in a leather zipper bag, they got dried out along with some other boxes that got neglected.

I wanted to bring them back to life, but i dont kmow where to start, should i just toss some bovedas in the zipper bag and just let it sit, or remove them and put them in Ziploc with the boveda?

As for the saint loui, i remember they were in glass tubes, should i remove them from the tube and use the same boveda ziploc process? Or place the tubes in my humidor?

ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,580
In a ziplock bag with iceberg lettuce, a little fresh ground pepper if you want to season them.
Ram09 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
Thanks ZRX, i almost used romain lettuce, should i put them in the freezer or in the vegi crisper?
kombat96 Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 04-12-2010
Posts: 9,717
Lowest rh boveda in a zip lock bag, for 2 weeks. Then step up into the next highest RH boveda for 2 weeks. Continue the process until you have a chance to try 1.
Ram09 Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
Thanks Kombat96, i was thinking about unloading them, but rather bring them back to life first.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#6 Posted:
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LOL
Salmoneye Offline
#7 Posted:
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If the 'box' is sealed and the cigars are sealed in glass tubes, you may be fine with those without any action on your part...

All depends on what they used for 'corks', and how well they sealed...

Try one, and see...



corey sellers Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 08-21-2011
Posts: 10,354
Just send them to me I will get them back to where they need to be and send you what's left when I fill like they are ready
Ram09 Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
I dont know salmoneye, they been sitting for along time, and were completely forgotten for the past few years, but you are correct I'll never know till i crack them open.
Ram09 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
Thanks for the offer CS, but iam sure all you will return is empty tubes and cello in a box.
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,580
If you send them to jaderose he’ll return the tubos with a custom maduro wrapper.
bs_kwaj Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 02-13-2006
Posts: 5,214

I think this guy might be an expert.. or something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBer7LnZig

Beer

jespear Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2004
Posts: 9,464
bs_kwaj wrote:
I think this guy might be an expert.. or something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBer7LnZig

Beer



Seems pretty stupid to me, BUT . . . I'll risk one of my lower end cigars, (yes, I have a few), to appease my curiosity.
I'm thinking the excess water/moisture will turn to steam, and the cigar will burn HOT. We'll see.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
jespear wrote:
Seems pretty stupid to me, BUT . . . I'll risk one of my lower end cigars, (yes, I have a few), to appease my curiosity.
I'm thinking the excess water/moisture will turn to steam, and the cigar will burn HOT. We'll see.



I've tried that water thing years ago when the idea first started propagating around and while my experiences did not rival his levels of success, it didn't hurt them. The amount of improvement I saw with cigars ranging from 6 to 12-15 year old stuff was minor. Having taken wrapper leaves off of cigars before and re-rolling them onto others with the aid of a spray bottle of water, I've found that it's uprising just how little water actually penetrates the capa leaf. It really can't hold that much water either as it is a very thin leaf. the only thing to worry about is tilting the cigar and flooding the foot of the cigar with water. A little moisture there is going to evaporate out when you light it, and if you exhale / blow through the cigar after lighting before taking the first draw, my experiences were that it didn't create an instantly over humidifed cigar. It will not fix a dried out cigar. This is mostly just about keeping the wrapper on a properly humidified cigar from shattering when it's cut and maybe helping the burn.

Something to keep in mind with some of the cigars he's talking about in the video is that they are 25+ years old and have often changed hands many times. They could have been stored improperly for a time and this could create some issues with smoking them. Vintage Cuban cigars that I've seen and smoked, the wrappers are often very thin and fragile. The more recent, last 10 years give or take, production stuff seems to have wrappers ranging from a bit tougher to "damn, you sure this isn't Nicaraguan?".

What it might do for the revived Camachos I can't say, it might actually help them a bit. I recall them having pretty tough wrappers so I wouldn't worry too much about the water damaging them.
dstieger Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 06-22-2007
Posts: 10,889
Ram09 wrote:
Thanks Kombat96, i was thinking about unloading them, but rather bring them back to life first.


Even if you eventually believe that you have resurrected them, please do not sell or trade them without disclosing their history.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 11-02-2006
Posts: 121,359
bs_kwaj wrote:
I think this guy might be an expert.. or something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBer7LnZig

Beer




Expert? Who knows... But certainly has the coin. That looked like another $600+ Dunhill Estupendo that he ran under the faucet.

Supposedly he's pretty good friends with Min Ron NEE and a few other high rollers in the CC world.
Ram09 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
After doing a little searching, i found this article from halfwheel, seems the liberty in this set is a revese barber pole. So i think iam just gonna smoke them up instead.

And yes i would definitely disclose all the info on them if i were to sell/trade.

https://halfwheel.com/review-camacho-liberty-2007-2/38295
ZRX1200 Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,580
Liberties don’t come in tubos FYI
Ram09 Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 11-05-2018
Posts: 26
The 2007 liberty in the signature set are not in tubos, the saint luie martinez are in the thick wall glass tubos with wood cork.
ZRX1200 Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,580
I have 2002-2014 I’m aware of what 2007 looks like.
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