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The Special Prosecutor's plea recommendation for Michael Flynn describes his cooperation as timely and substantial and urged no prison time because of his value as a witness. It also seems to identify top members of Trump's campaign who coordinated with Russians during the campaign, continued to do so after the election during the transition, and after Trump took office. The document was heavily redacted before it was released to the public, so the names were obscured. Ominously, the reason for the redaction was due to on-going investigations.

This looks like a ton of bricks that will ultimately squash Trump's family and friends who were instrumental in his campaign.

Trump may have seen this coming early in his Presidency when he famously asked, "Can I pardon myself?"

it's reasonably possible that Trump did or did not get directly involved in any of the Russian actions to mess with our opinions and ultimately our voting, which definitely happened...but I was posting long ago about the danger of his mortgages/loans owed to Russia and attempts to get a Trump Tower Moscow built (or some such name) that started before he ran and may have never stopped. Flynn, Manafort,and Cohen, with their vast political and business connections in Russia, Ukraine et al, had great value in these efforts. Let's not pretend.

If true, this left him compromiseable (new word) to Putin and his banks, the only banks (maybe China too) in the world that would loan him a nickle. Consider that his positive marketing on behalf of Putin and Russia started early on in the primary process. And the drum banging only slowed when virtually all of his appointed people and Congress expressed disgust.

With all that said, and more not said yet, I wouldn't bet the house that Flynn is being "rewarded" for info that leads to impeachable offenses. But I could see enough crap that a resignation or decision to not seek reelection is the result...and if the news is really bad for Trump, I'd much prefer those options than impeachment for the good of the country.

Doesn't make good sense to speculate on politics, Wind has a way of changing direction.

I did not read it.

c'mon guys, the addendum is only 6 pages, of which half the content is redacted...only 5 or 6 key sentences tells you what Mueller has regarding Trump campaign members and Russian coordination ...

Flynn was with Trump from the beginning of his campaign, and became a mentor of sorts to Kushner...if anyone knows what really happened and who did what, Flynn does...

um. I mighta forgot to mention that call we got late one night...?

About the pizza dude..??

yeah, yeah. that one.
Jeebus, I was afraid I used my private server.

Define 'collusion' for this case.

Conspire to do what?

And probably need to define conspire, too...does conspire only apply to illegal activity?

No, but it is the "lingo" of law for two or more people who plan/endeavor to commit an illegal act.

Thanks, Robert. I was asking about 'law definition'.

Meanwhile, Hillary laughs and laughs as she reviews her foundation bank account and recalls the Russia Uranium deal.

I've said since Day1 that I don't believe that Trump actively engaged Putin or Russian government to help win the election....that's what I always thought was the central allegation. I still believe that, however, that isn't to say that Trump isn't going to be justifiably tarnished with some pretty bad actions; convictions, even.
Money laundering; stupid, if not illegal business dealings; involvement, or even awareness of the DNC email thing and Facebook 'news'.....even if Trump is somehow ignorant of all of it...he's still surrounded himself with enough dirt that he will be hurt; though likely not impeached

It does seem that all of Trump's denials about him and his campaign being involved with the Russians from the beginning have been proven to be lies. The biggest lie exposed thus far, by Cohen, was that the Trump organization WAS involved in negotiations with Russia and Russian govt. banks (including one on the US sanctions list) regarding the Trump Tower Moscow deal. Cohen said Trump and he were working on that deal until about June, 2016, a year after his announcement that he was running for President. From June 2015, at the beginning of his candidacy and throughout the campaign and after his election, Trump has insisted he had no business dealings with Russia.

But we have become so accustomed to Trump and his people lying to us, that this big lie doesn't seem to matter that much to those who continue to support him.

The question becomes: was Trump running for President on behalf of the American people, or to promote his own self-interests? It appears that many people in the Trump campaign were in it for the money: Manafort, Cohen, Stone, Kushner....

They were hoping to enrich themselves leveraging the candidacy, prolly not expecting to win, but taking advantage of the opportunities and contacts afforded by a run for the most powerful office in the world. The Trump Tower Moscow deal with Russia has been in Trump's mind for decades. Putin and Russia was being stifled by US and world sanctions for its annexations of Ukraine and Crimea and so was eager to do business and willing to pull illegal strings to help the Trump campaign. The Russians offered to help Trump win the election and likely to help him build the Trump Tower Moscow resort in exchange for a promise to pull back on US imposed sanctions on Russia if they got the office.

Then the "O Crap" moment...surprise surprise...they actually won and had to serve the American people. How much were they doing for us...how much were they doing for themselves...

If Mueller can answer those questions, the answers will determine if Trump will be impeached...

Why not? Do you doubt Hillary's guilt?


As to Mueller targets, I thought there were already a half-dozen or so that have pleaded guilty

You all forgot to mention Benghazi in your list of Hillary transgressions. That would make you 3 for 3 in idiotic comments. Innocent untill proven guilty? Is that for Republicans only? Hillary has never been arrested, let alone convicted of anything. Quite a double standard you have. Then again, Drafters gut reaction could be right, after all he has quite a gut.

If you want something comparable to the present investigation look up Warren Harding Teapot Dome scandal. There are some striking similarities.

pretty good chance this is correct.
I really have no idea if Trump led an active attempt to sway the election, pretty big undertaking...and Russia may have had enough incentive to do so without an actual "deal" in place.

To me, from the beginning, the problem for the USA is the influence Russia has purchased in the White House...much like the Saudi's have recently.

Why is it so hard to believe people just didn't like Hillary..??

At Da Paladium...

good point!

Well, if Trump get impeached and Pence has an accident on the way to da pizza place Pelosi gets to be President... Many would call that a win...

Have never heard anyone mention that Hillary did anything illegal in regards to Benghazi.

Simply put, I do think she is a monumental POS for not doing a damn thing to help those four Americans and for sitting back and letting the video lie take flight.

Guess that would be a double standard as you call it.

Guess that would be a deflection from the Benghazi double standard thingie.

Thank God Hilldog didn’t profit from being a high ranking cabinet member........

Jesus you just can’t make this stuff up, I’m making popcorn LMAO