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'Baby, It's Cold Outside,' Seen As Sexist
Whistlebritches Offline
#51 Posted:
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My favorite radio station plays different versions of "Baby it's Cold Outside" on the hour every hour all day every day til Christmas.Kind of a big middle finger to the twisted knickers crowd.........I like it.
Speyside Offline
#52 Posted:
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So, Dave, I get your point. But for me there is a slippery slope. Often times censorship, or impediments on freedom start small and gain momentum, sometimes becoming government backed. The Libertarian in me cannot accept this. Nor can the constitutionalist in me. Paranoia from a McCarthy speech lead to McCarthyism. At first Hitler spoke to relatively small groups which lead to the holocaust.
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted:
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Hitler only had one ball... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
#54 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Hitler only had one ball... Mellow

3 more and he coulda walked...d'oh!
tailgater Offline
#55 Posted:
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Bill Cosby wrote:

There is flirtatious banter...old style...nothing close to menacing pressure.

And the "reveal" is in the last line that they sing together, both agreeing that spending the night is what they both wanted all along.

tailgater Offline
#56 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
I like the song, and think it's fine...but I won't play it if I know someone would be offended by it...

"Young Girl" was a very popular song in the late 60's...I remember singing along...but I've heard from some of my younger female acquaintances who see the song as very creepy...

I don't understand the response that "f*** you for being offended by this...it wasn't meant to offend you...I find it entertaining, so F off"

my brother, a Baptist Youth Pastor, was offended by the "Life of Brian" and "History of the World"...I loved the movies, but would never offer to show them to him...


Would you agree with an outright BAN on those movies?

People need to realize that some things might offend them. And it's OK to be offended, and to say that you're offended. But to take away MY right to something because YOU'RE offended is pure and genuine intolerance.

tailgater Offline
#57 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
So, Dave, I get your point. But for me there is a slippery slope. Often times censorship, or impediments on freedom start small and gain momentum, sometimes becoming government backed. The Libertarian in me cannot accept this. Nor can the constitutionalist in me. Paranoia from a McCarthy speech lead to McCarthyism. At first Hitler spoke to relatively small groups which lead to the holocaust.


Question: Why can't we play that song?

Answer: Hitler!


tailgater Offline
#58 Posted:
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8:00 I made a snowman.

8:10 A feminist passed by and asked me why I didn't make a snow woman.

8:15 So, I made a snow woman

8:17 My feminist neighbour complained about the snow woman's voluptuous chest saying it objectified snow women everywhere

8:20 The gay couple living nearby threw a hissy fit and moaned it could have been two snowmen instead

8:22 The transgender ma..wom...person asked why I didn't just make one snow person with detachable parts

8:25 The vegans at the end of the lane complained about the carrot nose,
as veggies are food and not to decorate snow figures with.

8:28 I am being called a racist because the snow couple is white..

8:31 The Muslim gent across the road Demands the snow woman to wear a burqa

8:40 The Police arrive saying someone has been offended

8:42 The feminist neighbour complained again that the broomstick of the snow woman needs to be removed
because it depicted women in a domestic role

8:43 The council equalities officer arrived and threatened me with eviction

8:45 TV news crew from the BBC shows up. I am asked if I know the
difference between snowmen and snow-women? I reply, "Snowballs" and am
called a sexist.

9:00 I'm on the News as a suspected terrorist, racist, homophobe sensibility offender bent on stirring up trouble
during difficult weather.

9:10 I am asked if I have any accomplices... my children are taken by social services

9:29 Far left protesters offended by everything are marching down the St demanding for me to be beheaded
MACS Offline
#59 Posted:
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^That just about sums it up.

A good plot twist would have been if you called them all racists because you're black and got Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson involved.

frankj1 Offline
#60 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:

I still have a few Cosby comedy albums (vinyl).
RMAN4443 Offline
#61 Posted:
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ditto....Anxious
opelmanta1900 Offline
#62 Posted:
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rapists...
MACS Offline
#63 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
rapists...


You spelled ra... well, no, I guess you got it right. Think
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted:
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This is the dumbest f-cking argument on both sides.

Some people find the lyrics very reminiscent of what we would consider modern day date rape. That's their right. They also have the right to ask companies not to play that music.

Companies can choose to play it or not. If they choose to, they can deal with the consequences. Same as if they choose not to.

None of this really should impact anyone other than the people who are bothered by the song, or the companies asked not to play it.

What is mother f-cking retarded is that anyone would change their personal behavior because they're in some way upset that people are bothered by it.

Seriously. If you've listened to this song more than you would normally, just because someone else in the world is bothered by it, you're a f-king idiot. You've changed your behavior, done something you have no real desire to do, simply to piss off a group of people who will never know you did that to yourself.

I swear, the stupidity...
victor809 Offline
#65 Posted:
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... and speaking of stupidity. Tail still can't get a goddamn thing right, even when he's complaining that he's oh so put upon as a middle-aged white guy in America.
Abrignac Offline
#66 Posted:
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Lighten up Francis
MACS Offline
#67 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Lighten up Francis


He seems pretty bothered by someone being bothered, doesn't he? I find it oddly... ironic. And it makes me laugh.
tailgater Offline
#68 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
... and speaking of stupidity. Tail still can't get a goddamn thing right, even when he's complaining that he's oh so put upon as a middle-aged white guy in America.


Victor has lost it.*
















*benefit of the doubt that he ever had it.







tailgater Offline
#69 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
He seems pretty bothered by someone being bothered, doesn't he? I find it oddly... ironic. And it makes me laugh.


I do loves me some irony.


MACS Offline
#70 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
I do loves me some irony.


#triggered
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted:
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MACs... You need to brush up on your definition of irony then. You're in Alanis Morisset territory right now.

Am I not allowed to be bothered by how stupid people have become? That's what conservatives theoretically whine about on here all the time. Because seriously, if you're doing something which you had no intention of doing, and no desire to do, simply because you think it will piss someone off... Then you're an idiot and you're living a part of your life for someone else.

No one's rights have been impacted here. The government isn't involved in this at all. If you think you have a right to have your favorite Christmas song played by radio stations whenever you want then you're a f-king idiot too.

I f-king swear. This whole problem could be easily solved if the f-king Dems manned up and started telling the media they were super triggered by suicide and didn't want anyone to do it .

DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted:
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But the statues had to go.. Think
Speyside Offline
#73 Posted:
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That's the entertainment I have missed.
tailgater Offline
#74 Posted:
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Don't worry about victor.
His selective outrage is defined by the liberal media, and displayed only when he can play the contrarian.

In a way, it's soothing.







dstieger Offline
#75 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
That's the entertainment I have missed.

So....we have you to blame for standing on a corner calling out his name 3 times?
victor809 Offline
#76 Posted:
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Not even remotely related drafter.
Phil222 Offline
#77 Posted:
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What a private company believes is best for their bottom line, and what monuments should be on publicly funded common areas are two completely different subjects of debate.
MACS Offline
#78 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
MACs... You need to brush up on your definition of irony then...
Am I not allowed to be bothered by how stupid people have become?


Yes, you are. But you're bothered by people who are bothered by how stupid people have become.

If you can't see the irony, you need glasses.
MACS Offline
#79 Posted:
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Speyside wrote:
That's the entertainment I have missed.


If you call arguing with every-damn-one entertaining, then you and I have different definitions.
RMAN4443 Offline
#80 Posted:
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Imagine what would happen if they were to play "Baby It's Cold Outside" at Rockefeller Center for the ice skaters....Would people's heads explode?????Bombed Think

Or would anyone even notice what song was playing...Think
Phil222 Offline
#81 Posted:
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Only one way to find out...
victor809 Offline
#82 Posted:
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Incorrect. I'm bothered by how stupid people are who are altering their lives and the things they do in response to some group acting overly sensitive.

I mean look at you. You literally have listened to a song you didn't intend to, have downloaded it, and intend to play it for people. A song you have never liked before. You've literally made your life worse in some small way just to "own the libs".

I heard the libs really find shipping scotch and cigars to guys named Victor offensive too. It super triggers them. You'd probably get one or two to hashtag something if you did it.

And after you trigger those libs go and look up irony.
dstieger Offline
#83 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Incorrect. I'm bothered by how stupid people are who are altering their lives and the things they do in response to some group acting overly sensitive.

I mean look at you. You literally have listened to a song you didn't intend to, have downloaded it, and intend to play it for people. A song you have never liked before. You've literally made your life worse in some small way just to "own the libs".

I heard the libs really find shipping scotch and cigars to guys named Victor offensive too. It super triggers them. You'd probably get one or two to hashtag something if you did it.

And after you trigger those libs go and look up irony.

Didn't you alter your life by ranting in here, in response to some group acting overly sensitive? Are you as bothered by you as we are?
victor809 Offline
#84 Posted:
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I rant here all the time. My life did not change.

If I stopped smoking cigars because of idiots in here, then yes, I would be doing what I was complaining about others doing.

But no, I didn't complain about people complaining. I specifically stated people changing their lives in some way
delta1 Offline
#85 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Would you agree with an outright BAN on those movies?

People need to realize that some things might offend them. And it's OK to be offended, and to say that you're offended. But to take away MY right to something because YOU'RE offended is pure and genuine intolerance.



no, not saying anything should be banned...I would watch those movies at home when my brother isn't around...I don't want to take away your rights to anything...you wanna hear the song, find a station that plays it or buy the cassette...some guy likes to see porn, let him do so in front of his fireplace in his home...

if one wants to say, hear, view something others find offensive, they can do so in the privacy of their own homes or in places where the offended wouldn't be...

there are plenty of examples where someone's rights are taken away by an intolerant offended society...you may like to walk around naked, and find that to be the most enjoyable activity in the world and believe you have the right to do that, because it's OK in many other places...in our civilized society with our rule of law, society takes away your right to walk around with your weinie hanging out in public...

an exception would be political speech, where our traditional view of the Constitution has been interpreted by several SCOTUS decisions that allows for uncensored political speech, even if offensive, in the public arena...that's why the Nazis were allowed to march in Skokie years ago, and then again in Charlottesville...but music is commercial "speech" and doesn't enjoy unfettered rights to be heard in the public arena...

so maybe if you painted an American flag on your pr*ck, you can walk around outside in public without getting arrested...
DrafterX Offline
#86 Posted:
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I googled Christmas Songs that Offend... Not somethin I do everyday... Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted:
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Has anyone analyzed 'auld lang syne' yet... It doesn't even sound American to me... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
#88 Posted:
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I believe that there is nothing you can do in this world, that another group of people won't find offensive...think about it and see if you can come up with anything that another person or group of people doesn't find offensive in some way,shape or form....go ahead, I dare ya!fog
MACS Offline
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victor809 wrote:
Incorrect. I'm bothered by how stupid people are who are altering their lives and the things they do in response to some group acting overly sensitive.

I mean look at you. You literally have listened to a song you didn't intend to, have downloaded it, and intend to play it for people. A song you have never liked before. You've literally made your life worse in some small way just to "own the libs".

I heard the libs really find shipping scotch and cigars to guys named Victor offensive too. It super triggers them. You'd probably get one or two to hashtag something if you did it.

And after you trigger those libs go and look up irony.


MACS wrote:
Know what's funny? I was not familiar with the song before the outrage... and now I've heard it like a dozen times. And I'm gonna download it and play it for anyone that will listen.

Snowflakes... shut your holes for a damn minute and think about things before you open your filthy traps.


I said I was not familiar with the song before the outrage, and now I have heard it a dozen times. How could I dislike a song with which I was unfamiliar? And hearing it played on various radio stations in response to the outrage is how I have heard it. It isn't like I went looking to hear it. Once again, you inject your own thoughts into a conversation and try to pass them off as mine. Um... no.

You've obviously been triggered. Find yourself a therapy pet, that may help you.

If it's any consolation, I haven't downloaded or played the song for anyone... that was me being facetious.
RMAN4443 Offline
#90 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
I said I was not familiar with the song before the outrage, and now I have heard it a dozen times. How could I dislike a song with which I was unfamiliar? And hearing it played on various radio stations in response to the outrage is how I have heard it. It isn't like I went looking to hear it. Once again, you inject your own thoughts into a conversation and try to pass them off as mine. Um... no.

You've obviously been triggered. Find yourself a therapy pet, that may help you.

If it's any consolation, I haven't downloaded or played the song for anyone... that was me being facetious.

That would be a form of animal abuse...and I find that offensive!!!Think
delta1 Offline
#91 Posted:
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I need to take a chill pill...it's hard walking around being offended all the time...sure miss beer...
dstieger Offline
#92 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
I need to take a chill pill...it's hard walking around being offended all the time...sure miss beer...


If being offended makes 'it' hard....you MIGHT be a Liberal



victor809 Offline
#93 Posted:
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... facetious Macs?

I actually think it's worse that you said you were going to do that but couldn't even muster the $1.50 to buy the song on iTunes.

I believe the correct term is showing false bravado.

You just turned into the terrible Christmas song version of the guy saying "I'm going to kick that dude's azz"... But doesn't actually do it.

Why would you say your we're going to buy the song if you had no intention of doing so? There's something really sad about bragging to a bunch of people online that you're going to do something that costs 1.50$ and 2 seconds of time, but actually can't even be azzed to do it.

I honestly don't know what is dumber... That you would change your life in any miniscule way to "own the libs"... Or that after saying you were going to, you couldn't even follow through on it.
victor809 Offline
#94 Posted:
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...now I can't even expect you to follow through on sending Victors lots of scotch and cigars to "own the libs". ... It's all an internet lie....
delta1 Offline
#95 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
If being offended makes 'it' hard....you MIGHT be a Liberal






lol = log on lib
tailgater Offline
#96 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
no, not saying anything should be banned...I would watch those movies at home when my brother isn't around...I don't want to take away your rights to anything...you wanna hear the song, find a station that plays it or buy the cassette...some guy likes to see porn, let him do so in front of his fireplace in his home...

if one wants to say, hear, view something others find offensive, they can do so in the privacy of their own homes or in places where the offended wouldn't be...

there are plenty of examples where someone's rights are taken away by an intolerant offended society...you may like to walk around naked, and find that to be the most enjoyable activity in the world and believe you have the right to do that, because it's OK in many other places...in our civilized society with our rule of law, society takes away your right to walk around with your weinie hanging out in public...

an exception would be political speech, where our traditional view of the Constitution has been interpreted by several SCOTUS decisions that allows for uncensored political speech, even if offensive, in the public arena...that's why the Nazis were allowed to march in Skokie years ago, and then again in Charlottesville...but music is commercial "speech" and doesn't enjoy unfettered rights to be heard in the public arena...

so maybe if you painted an American flag on your pr*ck, you can walk around outside in public without getting arrested...


So, you do or don't want them banned?

tailgater Offline
#97 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:


I honestly don't know what is dumber...



After reading your diatribes, that is a conundrum that none of the rest of us share.


Speyside Offline
#98 Posted:
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So explain to me how song banning is different than book burning.
victor809 Offline
#99 Posted:
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Tail... Don't you have some "oh poor put upon me! I just can't do anything I want to do in this world any longer" whining to do?

Spey... Theres a world of difference here.
Book burning is intended to keep people from reading a book in private. A radio station or mall not playing a song has nothing to do with your private desire to listen to a Christmas song.

This is the difference between subjecting others to your choice of song... Or reading material...or xxx movie... And ones ability to access that media.

And this is literally a big nothing. The government hasn't done a damn thing... A handful of places said they weren't going to play it.. a handful of overly sensitive people didn't want to hear it in public.... And a handful of idiots have had a fit and decided it's now their favorite song in the world and want to listen to it all the time (or at least that's what they're pretending on the internet... I'm now learning that internet tough guy bravado even extends to not being willing to spend a buck on iTunes).

Honestly... If everyone upset about the song...and everyone pretending to want to "trigger" the people who are upset, or expressing Glee at others trying to "trigger the libs"... All just went on to a desert island and slowly died, the world would likely run a bit smoother.
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#100 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
If being offended makes 'it' hard....you MIGHT be a Liberal




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