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What would be the outcome if 1/3 of the government shut down and nobody noticed?

Who won't get food stamps? I know nothing about this risk.

Lunch at school? I don't know about that, either. But, might engender a somewhat different conversation, too.....I mean let's talk about fed responsibility to feed kids at school.

National Park vandalism? Yeah - agree that its fd up...people that cut down Joshua Trees and other stupid chit should do serious time in jail....Is that the fault of the shutdown? Or, that of morally deprived individuals with irresponsible parents and likely little redeeming societal value?

Which HUMAN BEINGS? Is it my role as a federal tax payer to prop up those businesses where the money isn't being spent? Is that really a good reason to employ government workers?

Don't get me wrong -- I think the shutdown is a great example of how broken our representative system is currently. Should NEVER have happened. But since it has, it might be a good time to consider whether we really need a government so big that when its shut down for three weeks, the impact is remarkably minor (IMO.)

What about the kids on the border states that get diminished education because the class sizes are ballooned to unreasonable numbers due to teachers and staff not being allowed to ask if the kids that don't speak English are legal or not.

American citizens' education is suffering due to illegals sneaking their children in. It burdens the system to where there's not much budget to go around. Which causes high quality teachers to quit or get weeded out because their test scores are suffering because half their students don't speak English.

Illegal immigration causes problems whether you want to admit it or not. I'm not the biggest fan of Trump, but he is the only president that I've seen that actually wanted to do something about it.

I think the temporary sacrifice is worth it... like dstieger said, it might be a good time to look at certain programs that can be cut. Obviously we don't need them all.

The irony of this shutdown is that the primary reason for the shut-down is to protect our country from illegal immigrants and the drugs and crime they bring, and yet the very people whose jobs it is to protect us against this crisis are the US Coast Guard, the DHS and the TSA, who are the MOST impacted by the shutdown.

Those human beings who work at places most likely to be at risk of encountering terrorists and drugs, at airports and at ports of entry, are being told to paint houses, babysit, do garage sales, handyman stuff to pay their bills while their paychecks stop coming in. Other employees affected that could affect public safety are federal air traffic controllers and FDA inspectors. They are among the 800,000 federal employees who are furloughed by the shut-down yet expected to report for duty...

so a ginned up emergency could lead to real emergencies...

that hints at a solution to the increasing use of government shutdowns as a political weapon...

all federal politicians, including members of Congress (House and Senate) and their staffs and the support personnel who maintain the chambers along with the POTUS and his cabinets and all of their staff and support personnel should not be paid when the government is shut down...all lobbyists must refrain from all communication with members of Congress during a shutdown...

too bad there isn't a referendum system in the federal govt....maybe there are some honest and courageous Reps and Senators who would enact that law...

even better...

it also fits his population thinning program to be unveiled at the U.N. soon.

Goddamn autocorrect.

I'm leaving it. Fk it.

I'll do the thinnin' around here, Baba...


Quickdraw McGraw

a cartoon set the precedent for the word to work in both instances.

Trump on 05jan... "I don't care that most of the workers not getting paid are Democrats"....

hamberders...1,000 hamberders (I paid)
Kimmel had a funny bit on that last night.