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Have Xikar Trezo(s), worth getting the HP3?
Pudding Mittens Offline
#1 Posted:
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I have a few Xikar Trezo lighters. Their new HP3 has the same flame pattern, but a larger, newly-styled body with dual large "EZ-view" fuel windows that make the butane look red (the Trezo has a small fuel window that doesn't do the red trick, making it harder to read), and due to the larger body, I'm guessing the HP3 might have a larger butane tank and capacity, but I don't know.

Does anybody have both? Can anyone confirm the tank is bigger on the HP3? Can anyone say how much better the HP3 fuel windows are than the Trezo's window? Is it worth getting the HP3 if you already have a Trezo (or several).

The HP3 does look stunning in close-up high-res photos I've seen, but I've never seen one in person.

I love the flame pattern, and it'd be nice to have it in a lighter with more capacity and easier-to-read fuel window(s). Or is capacity the same despite the larger body, so it's simply not worth upgrading?

Thanks, to anyone who can share useful information about this!
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opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted:
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I need to pick up a xikar lighter... Never owned one... sick of dealing with cheapies...
Pudding Mittens Offline
#3 Posted:
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
I need to pick up a xikar lighter... Never owned one... sick of dealing with cheapies...

DO IT! They're excellent, and the warranty is just absurdly, unbelievably good. Free replacements (by mail or over-the-counter at a local dealer) for any reason whatsoever, even cosmetic-only damage, normal wear-and-tear or even damage that's your fault!. The replacements are often improved/updated versions of the item, and if the item's discontinued you get an equivalent current product (which is also covered forever). So the warranty doubles as free updates and upgrades forever, too. No proof of purchase needed, possession of the item is sufficient. Don't lose it or have it stolen, and you're golden forever.

If you need help deciding on a model, I have lots of them (except the HP3), so I can probably help you decide.
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Cereal City Cigar Smoker Offline
#4 Posted:
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Been looking at the HP 3 as well Think Have you seen it for less than $49?

c3s
Pudding Mittens Offline
#5 Posted:
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Cereal City Cigar Smoker wrote:
Been looking at the HP 3 as well Think Have you seen it for less than $49?

c3s

Yes, but only a few bucks less than that at a competitor site using one of two promo codes ($46.46 with one promo code, or $44.78 if part of an order over $125 using another promo code), but I can't really give the details here for obvious reasons.

$49 is a good price.
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danmdevries Offline
#6 Posted:
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Bic or jetlite lighter for the pocket, propane torch in the garage.

I've tried several butane lighters but never had good luck refilling more than a couple times. Spent some money on higher end lighters too.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
I've tried several butane lighters but never had good luck refilling more than a couple times. Spent some money on higher end lighters too.

People who have problems making quality refillable butane lighters work for more than a couple of refills typically aren't doing this mandatory stuff:

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* using high-quality butane like Xikar Purofine (silver can) or better still, High-Performance (black can).

* completely bleeding the lighter before every refill.

* turning the flame adjustment wheel all the way down to the minimum before every refill.

...and/or they don't know about these tricks:

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* putting the lighter in the fridge or freezer for awhile before refilling (causes much more effective and easier butane transfer from can to the lighter's internal tank).

* blowing canned/compressed air into the jets to clean them with pressurized air, and if that fails:

* BEING VERY CAREFUL TO AVOID ALL POSSIBLE IGNITION SOURCES INCLUDING MAKING SURE THE IGNITER CANNOT SPARK, then pressing a butane can's valve down on the (unlit!) jets to clean them with pressurized solvent (butane), while being careful not to bend or dislocate the spark-generating arm. (little-known but awesomely effective trick!)

* some lighters (including most Xikars) let you do a simple 2-minute procedure with a small screwdriver to adjust the flame adjustment wheel's range (which is a subset of the lighter's full possible range) into a higher or lower part of the lighter's full possible range (Xikar has a YouTube video about this, watch it).

* Xikar will replace your lighter with a brand new one as often as necessary forever, by mail or instantly over-the-counter at a dealer. If the above techniques don't work, this obviously will fix the problem, every time and forever. I recommend disregarding all other brands for this reason alone.

Burn these into your brain, and you may find you don't have many or any problems with quality refillable butane lighters anymore.

It worked for me! I'm basically 99.9% problem-free here, and with lots and lots of Xikars.
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danmdevries Offline
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Seems like more work than my method.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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danmdevries wrote:
Seems like more work than my method.

No doubt! There's much to be said for your method. It's all personal preference.

One of my cigar buddies used to be a Bic guy, but now he likes torches better than soft flames. But, he has bad luck with torches, like you do. Know what he does?

Every so often he'll go on Amazon and buy an entire display tray of cheap torches (12 or 24 or however many are in those display trays you see in convenience stores). Uses one till it gives him problems, throws it right in the trash and grabs the next one.

Being Chinese-made and low-priced when you buy by the entire tray, he says it's quite cost-effective and he loves it. No hassles.
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Sunoverbeach Offline
#10 Posted:
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I admit, while I have a couple decent lighters, I've fried enough forgetting in the car on a hot day that I've got a rotating line of those carbon fiber oneson cbid that you can usually win for a couple bucks
Pudding Mittens Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I've fried enough forgetting in the car on a hot day

I don't understand this. I've let many of my Xikars in the car on hot days, and nothing bad ever happened to any of them.

Do cheap lighters get ruined from this?
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Sunoverbeach Offline
#12 Posted:
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That's my theory anyway. Works in the morning. Forget in the car. No longer lights. Done this 3x with 2 different Jetline models (far from top end also). My guess is heat overpressuizing something
dstieger Offline
#13 Posted:
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I bought my last Xikar lighter at least 5 years ago. The best that could be said about them is that they were pretty when new. Not garbage, but finish scratches easy and the lighters could be a bit temperamental. I have only used lighters from dealextreme for the past several years. Very reliable with incredibly large tanks. Buy a dozen....they run as high as about 4 bucks per. They can last years, but I dont worry about losing them over the side of the boat, or giving them away. I get a dozen every 3 years or so. Skip all that high maintenance stuff. Fill one and use it for almost six weeks....longer if you dont go through over a box of cigars a week, as I do.
corey sellers Offline
#14 Posted:
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I use the moretti quad from here and xikar fluid and these last around a year or so easily but will xikar does stand by there products had a cutter that had gotten dull sent it in before I know it had a brand new one
Numismaniac Offline
#15 Posted:
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I have a few Xikar lighters of various types and I bought the new Xikar Verano flat flame a couple of months ago. I think it's the best, so far. You get quite a few more lights/cigars as well as the best touch up lighter IMHO.

And, yep, pretty hard to beat the lifetime warranty.
Pudding Mittens Offline
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dstieger wrote:
finish scratches easy

The nicer finshes, sure. But "nice finishes may be damaged by abrasion" is common sense. You're supposed to protect them with a suitable carrying case, not let them slide around on the dashboard of your car or get ground up against jagged keys in a pocket. Of course they'll scratch!

For scratch resistance, nothing beats the Xikar Stratosphere II. The finish is rubber. It basically never scratches. Love it!

There's also the "wrinkle black" a.k.a. "crinkle black" finish on some Xikars (e.g. Turrim Single, others). It's a tough and textured black that's very hard to scratch.

For cutters, the Xi2 (fiberglass/nylon composite body) and X8 and X875 (resin body) are pretty much immune to scratches too.

For the majority of my Xikars which aren't scratch-resistant like the above models, I simply keep them in cases that protect their finish (e.g. Xikar CigarLocker with the padded spots for cutters and lighters). Works great, protects them and keeps their finishes looking good as new.

Also, remember that the warranty covers the finish (along with anything and everything else). Finish scratched? Swap it for a new one at your nearest dealer, even if it still lights just fine. You can do that forever, over and over again. But, it's easier to keep it in a case that protects it with foam or the like.
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kombat96 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Who da funk allows a grown man with a name like pudding mittens use a lighter?






























I hate noops and lanceros.
kombat96 Offline
#18 Posted:
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Who da funk allows a grown man with a name like pudding mittens use a lighter?






























I hate noops and lanceros.
frankj1 Offline
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felt so nice, he said it twice.
kombat96 Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
felt so nice, he said it twice.



That's what she said Frying pan
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