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2019 Spring Mystery Cigars With A Twist
RMAN4443 Offline
#151 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
Posts: 7,683
Great job on the reviews DanApplause very entertaining to read...Ok, here's the breakdown

#3 was the Gilberto Oliva Reserva Blanc rob. The yard gar, available here (on c-bid), for a couple dollars with shipping, but not half bad for when your fishing or fooling around outside.

#1 was a Crowned Heads 2015 TAA-MMXV toro. The high end...sorry to hear it gave you problems. I've only smoked one of them myself, and all I can say is...Mine was better than yoursHerfing

#2 was an LFD Coronado Corona Especial. The mid range. I'm glad you enjoyed it

Great job on the reviews...I haven't even started my reviews yet, I'll probably get started smoking and reviewing next weekend. Little cold hanging on for the last week or so, but seems to be on the downward slide now...

Nothing left for you to do now but wrap your lips around that Fighting Cokk and enjoy...Anxious
Sunoverbeach Offline
#152 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
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Huh, 0% accuracy. Go me.

Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I am awarded no points, and may God have mercy on my soul.

On the bright side a) found the envelope, and b) didn't compare the LFD to a Gurkha on a site full of LFD fans

d'oh!
delta1 Offline
#153 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,784
good job on the reviews Sunoverbeach...entertaining reads...

you're so right about this forcing you to concentrate and focus solely on the cigar...
ypetryna Offline
#154 Posted:
Joined: 07-19-2012
Posts: 1,323
Ok, the heavy package was full of smokes and beer.

Some white oak Jai alai by cigar City brewing. I recall having a green Jai alai that I enjoyed so looking forward to this. Complete with city city brewing sticker and coasters.

The unbanded smokes, torpedo, toro and Churchill

A Herrera esteli miami

A tuxes and tails nh of this (Robbie from a Tampa charity event, cigars always provided by fuente or Newman)

And a blendland rq 444 - it looks like a Hemingway short story. I had something similar to this, but don't recall the blend. If it's the same one thou, super excited about it.

Thanks Tampa
gummy jones Offline
#155 Posted:
Joined: 07-06-2015
Posts: 7,969
Sunoverbeach wrote:
Huh, 0% accuracy. Go me.

Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it. I am awarded no points, and may God have mercy on my soul.

On the bright side a) found the envelope, and b) didn't compare the LFD to a Gurkha on a site full of LFD fans

d'oh!


Applause
delta1 Offline
#156 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,784
Review: Mystery Cigar #2

6" x 48...Total time was 1hr and 12 minutes. This cigar had a dark brown veiny wrapper, with a dull dry sheen, around some dark brown and lighter brown fillers. I shouldn't have washed my hands with an aromatic soap, which interfered with my ability to notice any pre-light aromas, other than tobacco and barnyard. There was a noticeable give along the length of the cigar, when pinched, except for the solid last inch at the head of the cigar.

After toasting the foot, the first puff had a dry cocoa taste, which quickly gave way to an earthy peppery burnt wood and toasted bread combination of flavors. There was a hint of sweetness. The cigar had an easy to medium draw, resulting in a good amount of smoke that was easy to retrohale. The smoke left a dry tobacco taste in my mouth and in my sinuses. At 1/2 inch, the burn got a little crooked, but a couple of puffs blown through the cigar corrected it, without the flame, and the burn remained straight. The flavor in the first part was a mild sweet pleasant taste of burnt wood, like the smell of sharpening a pencil, with dark toasted bread. The pepper disappeared. The solid ash was light gray.

The flavor of the smoke remained consistent in the next third. It was a pleasant slightly sweet toasted bread and burnt wood. There was a hint of bell pepper for a few puffs, but it left after a puff or two. The sweet burnt wood got stronger and the toasty bread faded a bit. The burnt sugary sweetness remained also. My impression about halfway through was that the cigar was pleasant, mild, and slightly sweet. A bitterness in my mouth caused me to salivate some.

In the final third, the flavor of burnt wood and toast was pretty consistent, but the sweet wood over-matched the toasty bread at this stage. The cigar was very consistent throughout, with few changes. There were some vegetal notes in the last 1 1/2 inch, which combined well with the sweet burnt wood. The cigar got hot and harsh in the last inch, and I put it out with about 3/4 inch left.

This was a good solid, consistent cigar, possibly a mid-tier smoke. I'm going to hedge a bit, until I review the Mystery Cigar #3, but my initial impression is this was a mid-tier cigar. Not sure if I've had this one before, but it seemed familiar, reminding me of an Illusione.

Thanks for another good enjoyable cigar, gummy!
delta1 Offline
#157 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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uh oh....I just took a close look at gummy's mystery cigar #3...it has a unique fan-tail cap that is attached to a 5 1/2" x 52 dark skinned cigar...I've smoked at least 2-3 boxes of these, if it is what I think it is...because of this, I'm gonna have to adjust my assessment of cigar #1 and cigar #2....I'll be smoking this baby later tonight and will have the final review done along with edits to the guesses of rankings of the previous two reviews...
gummy jones Offline
#158 Posted:
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Had to give you one gimmie...
delta1 Offline
#159 Posted:
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I'm an idiot for not checking them out before starting the reviews...the post-it with the number on it concealed the fan-tail...d'oh!
delta1 Offline
#160 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,784
Review: Mystery cigar #3

5 1/2 x 52...total time was 1 hr and 40 minutes. The cigar had a fan-tail cap (kind of a giveaway for someone who's smoked many of them) with a dark brown wrapper that had darker brown, almost black splotches. The wrapper leaf was rough, thick and dull looking, with some minor veins. There was a slightly sweet, barnyard and fruity aroma. Pre-light flavor was dried fruit and cocoa. The cigar was very solid with almost no give along the entire length, when pinched. I paired the smoke with iced water.

The first few puffs had a sweet chocolatey cookie taste with strong tobacco. There was a pepperiness on the finish when retrohaled. Moderate to easy draw produced a high volume of smoke and the cigar gave off a lot of smoke at rest. The volume of smoke made it difficult to do a full retrohale, so I expelled some smoke through the mouth before sending it up through the sinuses.The flavor was robust, full of meaty, sweet, woody notes.There was a lot going on in the first third as secondary flavors came and went. The burn was nearly straight, and the solid ash was a light gray color. The smoke made my nose run, even though the pepperiness was gone. The initial third finished with more sweetness, strong tobacco and a complex blend of flavors. The ash stayed solid until I tapped it off at about 1 1/2 inch.

This was a great cigar so far. The flavors changed some from the beginning: much sweeter and milder tasting. There was a sweet minty tobacco taste with a moist feeling in the mouth. It is still producing a lot of smoke, so much so that I still can't do a full retrohale comfortably. In this portion of the cigar, the dominant tastes were sweet, fruity and meaty with a strong tobacco backdrop. Some saltiness joined the show near the end of the middle third, which added a savory quality. The smoke was milder, mellower and sweeter than how it began.

In the final third, I'm still thinking this is a great cigar. The blend of flavors is like a well executed broth of multiple flavors that are hard to distinguish. Have to get some more of these. It needed a minor correction at 1 1/2 inch left. The strength kicked in. With an inch left this was a full flavored full strength cigar. I put it out with a half inch nub left, and enjoyed every minute. My guess is that this was a Liga Privada UF 13. I've smoked through 2-3 boxes, but it's been a couple of years since I smoked the last one. It had less pepper than I remember, but the full complexity of smoke and several transitions are the same.

This was the high end.

I've had to re-evaluate the guesses I made about #1 and #2. Number 1 now is considered the middle tier, a very good Cuban, which I found familiar, but can't identify. Since I guessed it was a high end, it is an excellent mid-tier cigar. So cigar number 2 is now my sub $5 cigar, and at that price, it is a very good cigar, one that seems familiar, like an Illusione, but I can't pinpoint what it was.

Thank you gummy, for sending an excellent selection of cigars. I thoroughly enjoyed each of them.
gummy jones Offline
#161 Posted:
Joined: 07-06-2015
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Well done delta

I thought the uf13 would be super easy and when you didn't mention it I was kind of surprised. Didn't realize I covered up that tail. Wasn't intentional.

The cuban was a Juan Lopez #2 from 2015. I enjoy them very much and feel when they are good they are among my favorite cigars

The other was one I tried to trick you with. I got a great deal on some 858 sg's a while back so I threw it in there for the low end. I honestly thought you would get it but it's about 4 years old so it may have changed from others you've had.

Overall really well done. I plan on digging into yours today. Im almost certain I had this secondary flu they are talking about. As I get ready for work my throat is a bit sore but we'll see if it affects my taste (or at least to what degree).
tamapatom Offline
#162 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
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Excited about doing the reviews and I will try to get them done close to each other so I can compare…………..I was successful in the first part but it has taken me forever to type this up. Well here goes

#1 Cigar

A fine looking robusto – tight roll, I like them tight. Viens visible but not prominent. Triple cap. Mottled dark wrap……not your typical maduro. Small bumps. Not quite San Andrean but maybe sungrown.

I am driving down the road – fondling my newly acquired cigar. Nipped the tip and got some sweet tobacco flavor pre-light but with evidence of a little age on it. Enjoyed it for about 20 minutes in the car since I don’t smoke in the car.

I am supposed to meet someone at a hazardous waste remediation site but they don’t show up. I decide I’ll go ahead and hang out and light the cigar. Perfect light. 1st draw – I get a nice bold flavor – not peppery. Easy but not loose draw. Very nice finish on the draw.

I drop the cigar in the dirt. Crap! Contaminated dirt is sticking to the wet cap of my cigar. I guess I will need to brush it off – can’t waste a good cigar. Getting a mineral flavor. Oh wait – still some dirt on there, never mind.

One inch in this burn is still perfect. Ash is interesting white with black concentric rings. Picking up some pepper and other spices. Nutmeg? Nicauraguan? This is looking like the High end or mid range so far. Definitely not the yard gar.

Slight meaty flavor…….i have tasted something similar in a liga privada before. ½ way through and no nic buzz but I am expecting some. Whole spice cabinet but very muted and not overpowering…….parsley ranging up to oregano and habanero – not the hot aspect of habanero – the flavor part, for those of you who can appreciate hab flavor.

So I am tired of baking in the sun on this derelict industrial site. I decide to drive somewhere for lunch. Veterans Park has some nice benches under trees looking over water just around the corner. Lunch break but with NO FOOD. So I drive down the road with the cigar hanging out my window – getting blasted with 45 mph breeze. Not smoking while driving but enjoying a long lingering finish in the back off my throat.

Arrived. This cigar takes a licking and keeps on ticking. Need a relight though. Cigar mellows out some, then kicks in with pepper then smoothes out. Enjoying a slight buzz. Interestingly I usually don’t like it when I feel the nic kick but this is just enough not too much.

Still admiring the white ash with thin stacked layers of darker ash. This is like the layers of an ancient buried city. I’m digging for gold!

Some personal observations: This may not be something I seek or enjoy on a regular basis but it is certainly within my wheelhouse.

In a way price influences me in that the higher the price the higher the expectations. Now relative to price I summarize as such:

If this is the high end I say it is good
If it is the mid range I say it is great
If it is the yard gar I say WOW

Despite the buzz, I am taking it to the nub. A last hurrah of flavor. Never got squishy. All this on an empty stomach. I am pretty impressed. Time to eat.
tamapatom Offline
#163 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
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#2 Cigar

Toro Another nice tight roll. My preparation for this was to eat a hot dog laced with jalapeno peppers and a coke. Turns out not a good idea.

I always lose the tip of my key chain punch. So I look on the floor in my office and what do I see? 6 months after losing the tip. There it is. Must be Karma. I’m doing the punch!

Pre light – Jalapeno pepper
First draw – Jalepeno pepper
Drink a can of coke – Flavor notes? Jalapeno pepper

I definitely screwed up here.

Wrapper is much lighter than #1 and it looks like a regular natural – not quite a Connecticut in my mind but some of the south American connies do not seem like a Connecticut. I digress.

I am getting a nice flavor out of this but still mostly jalapeno. A little woodsy. I don’t know, maybe it’s a nice pairing? I think I am getting indigestion – too many peppers.

My initial light was not that great but the burnline is starting to correct itself without a lot of intervention. Draw is great. Overall performance is nothing to complain about.

Ash is like gray sheets peeling off – not layered like #1. Looks like a dirty blanket – gray and white with black spots. Wonky shape on ash – could be because of my initial incomplete lighting. Cross section of ash when it broke revealed dark grey in middle/whiter on outside.

1st 1/3 Flavor is not there on this one…..but my taste buds might be dead – not sure.

Wonky burn needs correction. Wrapper peeling in spots. Middle of cigar seems uneventful otherwise.

Last third – Picks up a little strength….by this time the jalapenos are gone from my palette but alas no real pickup in cigar flavor.

In summary – A respectable cigar – something that performs without a lot of hassle but you don’t expect too much from. I admit I gave it a tough challenge with the jalapenos but I have to think that a really great cigar would overcome that. I rank this as the YARD GAR which I am usually hesitant to pronounce before I test them all. We’ll see what #3 does now.
tamapatom Offline
#164 Posted:
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#3 cigar

Robusto Dark bumpy with prominent viens – but nice looking.....looks like the surface of Mars. Mountains and ridges. Hard as a rock. Did I mention before I like a tightly rolled cigar? This looks like a San Andreas wrapper.

Got the perfect setting for this. Just finished some great BBQ brisket from Sweet Daddy Georgia Boy. Still picking the meat from my teeth in preparation. 74 degrees, partly cloudy with a slight breeze. Drinking a Sasquatch (in a pink tutu) double IPA.

So I decide to use my newly re-found punch again. This booger is so hard I can hardly get the punch in. While I like a tight roll, I also like a good draw at the same time. This one aims to please.

I want to do this old school so I light with a piece of Spanish cedar and a match.

Prelight draw is nice but I don’t pick up any prelight flavor. Once I light I pick up a nice flavor that I can’t identify. This cigar smokes by itself as a chimney even when you are not drawing on it. I like that.

Nice but not overwhelming in your face flavor. Truly a rocklike feel but still a great draw. Did I say that already?

Slight woody taste – burning very slow. Still in the first inch. Needs a relight. Twice. I feel I need to draw on this more to keep it lit. Nice compact white ash until I bump it and it falls off.

Going along to the 1st ½ the burn is nice and the cigar is enjoyable. A little bit of pepper (no I haven’t had any more jalapenos). A solid smoke but no real change ups or development.

I start eating some homemade guac and chips and switch to a sweet Bourbon Stout. Cigar seems to improve in flavor with this pairing.

This cigar stays rock solid to the end. A finely rolled cigar. Burn stays consistent. I only wished it gave a little more variety though nothing at all to complain about. This one is one I would like to try again.

Ranking? #1 had more flavor and had a less rustic wrapper and I stick with my original opinion that it is probably the high end. #3 is an improvement over #2 so I pronounce it the mid range. All 3 cigars were enjoyed and I would try all of them again. I am a little curious if my jalapeno fiasco unfairly tainted my opinion of #2.

#1 High end
#2 Low end
#3 Mid range

I’m curious what they all were…………and when I have time I will give some thoughts on all the other great gifts included in this package!
delta1 Offline
#165 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,784
gummy jones wrote:
Well done delta

I thought the uf13 would be super easy and when you didn't mention it I was kind of surprised. Didn't realize I covered up that tail. Wasn't intentional.

The cuban was a Juan Lopez #2 from 2015. I enjoy them very much and feel when they are good they are among my favorite cigars

The other was one I tried to trick you with. I got a great deal on some 858 sg's a while back so I threw it in there for the low end. I honestly thought you would get it but it's about 4 years old so it may have changed from others you've had.

Overall really well done. I plan on digging into yours today. Im almost certain I had this secondary flu they are talking about. As I get ready for work my throat is a bit sore but we'll see if it affects my taste (or at least to what degree).


I've smoked a few Juan Lopez #1, but haven't tried the thicker shorter #2. I really like the JL#1, and the #2 compares favorably...I thought it tasted familiar...gonna have to get some, because the #2 seems to smoke slower...at JL prices, those are terrific cigars...

surprisingly, I've not smoked a Flor Fina 858 Sun Grown. I always have the natties and maddies on hand...they are a great bang for the buck cigar that can occasionally be found at sub $5 if you buy a box. But I could never get the Sun Grown, which seems to sell out quickly...may have one that was gifted a while back, from the Hawaiian Puncher...gonna go digging...and will keep my eyes open ...


hope you get better...wait until you're 100% before doing the reviews...not sure if you'll enjoy the ones I sent you as much as I did yours, though...great line-up.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#166 Posted:
Joined: 08-11-2017
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Nice reviewin both a youse
RMAN4443 Offline
#167 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
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Great reviews, very detailed, I enjoyed reading them...Applause
shaun341 Offline
#168 Posted:
Joined: 08-02-2012
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tamapatom wrote:
#3 cigar

Robusto Dark bumpy with prominent viens – but nice looking.....looks like the surface of Mars. Mountains and ridges. Hard as a rock. Did I mention before I like a tightly rolled cigar? This looks like a San Andreas wrapper.

Got the perfect setting for this. Just finished some great BBQ brisket from Sweet Daddy Georgia Boy. Still picking the meat from my teeth in preparation. 74 degrees, partly cloudy with a slight breeze. Drinking a Sasquatch (in a pink tutu) double IPA.

So I decide to use my newly re-found punch again. This booger is so hard I can hardly get the punch in. While I like a tight roll, I also like a good draw at the same time. This one aims to please.

I want to do this old school so I light with a piece of Spanish cedar and a match.

Prelight draw is nice but I don’t pick up any prelight flavor. Once I light I pick up a nice flavor that I can’t identify. This cigar smokes by itself as a chimney even when you are not drawing on it. I like that.

Nice but not overwhelming in your face flavor. Truly a rocklike feel but still a great draw. Did I say that already?

Slight woody taste – burning very slow. Still in the first inch. Needs a relight. Twice. I feel I need to draw on this more to keep it lit. Nice compact white ash until I bump it and it falls off.

Going along to the 1st ½ the burn is nice and the cigar is enjoyable. A little bit of pepper (no I haven’t had any more jalapenos). A solid smoke but no real change ups or development.

I start eating some homemade guac and chips and switch to a sweet Bourbon Stout. Cigar seems to improve in flavor with this pairing.

This cigar stays rock solid to the end. A finely rolled cigar. Burn stays consistent. I only wished it gave a little more variety though nothing at all to complain about. This one is one I would like to try again.

Ranking? #1 had more flavor and had a less rustic wrapper and I stick with my original opinion that it is probably the high end. #3 is an improvement over #2 so I pronounce it the mid range. All 3 cigars were enjoyed and I would try all of them again. I am a little curious if my jalapeno fiasco unfairly tainted my opinion of #2.

#1 High end
#2 Low end
#3 Mid range


I’m curious what they all were…………and when I have time I will give some thoughts on all the other great gifts included in this package!



Awesome reviews, I enjoyed reading each one of them and liked how you added in what you were doing throughout the length of smoking the cigars. I had a feeling the reviews would turn out something like what you have wrote.

#1 was an Illusione Rothchildes which I got on clearance for under $3 per. I was about to post info about it on here when I bought them and double checked they were in stock still and I must have got the last clearance cab because the price shot back up to normal retail. This was the yard gar, but I know most on here would never consider these yad gars.

#2 was a Caldwell Murcias Especial which I packaged as the midrange. I found them to be similar to your review, so I don't think that the jalapenos effected your review that much. I get an earthy tobacco and that is pretty much it. I thought this would be a good chance at seeing if it was just me or others felt the same about this cigar.

#3 is a La Aurora 100 Anos maduro, the high end. I haven't ashed one in awhile now so I am hoping I haven't waited too long on them after reading your review.

Thanks for the awesome reviews, it is always fun to read and compare cigar reviews from other people (especially when they are blind reviews)!
tamapatom Offline
#169 Posted:
Joined: 03-19-2015
Posts: 7,381
Well.......I have always liked the Illusione so for the price point it gets a WOW in my book. Not been terribly impressed with Caldwell before so that seems about right. And for the La Aurora. I had enjoyed quite a few of their double perfectos....but always thought they were way overpriced so I can see that one costing a bit more. Makes me want to pick up some Illusione rothschildes - Now that i know what it was, I can say for sure that the buzz I got was from doing it on an empty stomach.

When I do these reviews every year, I secretly hope that I am wrong picking the high end and it turns out to be the low end. I'm a bargain shopper at heart!

So on shear scoring I am a loser .....but I feel like a winner!
delta1 Offline
#170 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
Posts: 28,784
nice job with your reviews, tamapatom...Mr. Jalapeno fingers, lol...
gummy jones Offline
#171 Posted:
Joined: 07-06-2015
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Can't wait any longer. Kicking off the reviews with #2. Churchill. By looks I'm saying yard gar.

Greenish brown, mottled wrapper with what looks like a double cap or maybe a double and a half? Squishy spot in the middle and not a particularly oily in appearance. Foot is a mild, sweet tobacco. Draw is fine. Prelight taste is mild tobacco.

1/3 - So with a slightly sore throat and slightly stuffy nose I toast the foot. A touch acrid in the first inch but all I can say so far is it's not a cuban.

Faint pepper, wood and tobacco with good smoke output and perfect draw. Finish is much longer than I expected, especially this early. Strength and body are mild to medium. Retrohale burns a touch, not as bad as I thought it would be. Doesn't really change the flavor. Burn is acceptable and ash is solid. Im starting to get a sweet citrus that is faint but reminds me of mandarin. This is accompanied by a change in the smoke to slightly chewy. The finish has pretty clearly become a sweet ish cedar with a touch of ash tray and pepper. Here at the end of the first third the burn keeps self correcting, the initial ash is holding strong and I've had an intermittent coconut taste that I have never tasted in a cigar. Pepper is gone. It's funny what you think you taste when you are really trying.

2/3 - no burn corrections and ash is going on 3 inches so I elect to tap it off before it ends up in my lap. Earth and sweet wood predominate. Minimal pepper and faintly floral on the retro. Perhaps a little vanilla sponge cake now and again (yes gummy just hit you with sponge cake). At the midway point I would say the performance is way better than I thought it would be. The burn goes wonky but corrects itself. It's not a complex cigar but not bad. I've smoked cigars with this profile before and while it's certainly far from bad I continue to contend it's the yard gar. I feel my heart rate pick up a little but it remains medium in all categories except the finish which is surprisingly long.

3/3 - free bird is on the radio and im an hour and ten minutes in. The floral notes have picked up and there is definitely a little cocoa. And the ash just fell in my lap. The smoke output on each puff rivals a liga but without the constant smoke from the foot. Definitely cocoa but the overall sweetness is down, even on the finish. Medium plus in all categories with a long finish. My accompanying beverage is a homemade ginger blueberry kombucha. Really a nice palette cleanser without being overpowering. I'd recommend it. The final third was my favorite for sure.

Overall im not going to guess what it is but am sure I've had it or at least many like it. Not complex but not needing any attention as far as performance. A good cigar for a golf course or grilling out.

Thanks delta!
SmokeMonkey Offline
#172 Posted:
Joined: 04-05-2015
Posts: 5,688
I thoroughly enjoy taking part and reading everyone’s reviews. Unfortunately, life and work have gotten in the way. Maybe next year, maybe, don’t know.
gummy jones Offline
#173 Posted:
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Im sitting here rethinking the cap and overall profile. Not complex but pleasant with great performance. Need to smoke the other two.
delta1 Offline
#174 Posted:
Joined: 11-23-2011
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nice review, gummy....I'll wait until you've done the other two before I reveal their identities...glad the bug didn't affect your palate...
gummy jones Offline
#175 Posted:
Joined: 07-06-2015
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Let's go again

#3 is firm and silky smooth with a triple cap and all the looks of a top notch cigar. Appears to be Toro ish in size and I don't care to measure to be sure. It smells like a barn yard and tastes like must.

1/3 - I light it with a soft flame and the first couple puffs seem to have a little twang. The smoke production is average (not in a bad way) and the flavors are a mild, dry grass, a little salty pretzel (utz old fashioned sourdough to be exact) and possibly something I want to label as sweet. The burn is decent, the ash is on the dark side and the finish is short but enjoyable and without any ash tray taste. This cigar is mild to mild plus at this point. The last puff just opened a flavor bomb and a previously unrecognized under filled area that may be threatening to canoe.

The grassy hay has taken a back seat to a slightly sweet tobacco and a little black cherry. The retro is mild. No pepper, no spice but possibly hickory smoked pork. The ash is holding strong and im resisting correcting the burn: I think this thing can save itself.

2/3 - the smoke is fantastic and fragrant. I tap the ash before it tags me. The kiddos are running around in the yard eating popsicles. It's not hot, but way hotter than it has been. The burn has fixed itself (I believed in you kid) and I am enjoying a slightly salty, faintly toasty graham note with a side of cream. The finish remains on the short side but very smooth. Tears for fears is serenading me on the radio and the draw has tightened just a little but in a great way. My wife says it smells good but doesn't smell super strong. Dang, maybe she should do this next year!

3/3 the burn is razor sharp and the smoke is thick and cool. The ash is still hanging on and the overall profile is solidly smooth and medium. Im sure a true aficionado (someone slightly more full of it than myself) would pick up more subtle changes but from the end of the first third to now the flavors have remained largely consistent. I easily slip deltas cute, homemade band off the shoulder and admire the ash which is 50 shades of grey (aren't I clever)? The grass is gone. Sweet tobacco, mild wood, a hint of cream and a little minty espresso. Down to the nub and pleasant throughout. Total smoking time is about an hour and ten minutes.

This was an enjoyable after dinner smoke. If it's not an upper mid to upper cuban then I'll pretend my palate is off from my 3 week sickness. I'll guess hdm.

Thanks delta!
danmdevries Offline
#176 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2014
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Updated OP.

Hopefully I got it caught up correctly after a week away.

Keep em coming
stinger88 Offline
#177 Posted:
Joined: 05-29-2012
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I smoked my cigars in reverse order. Starting with #3 from Lance.
Pre-light - Medium brown, slight damage to the cigar (near the foot was a small chunk of the wrapper missing and wrapper problems where the band is removed). It was a tight, box pressed torpedo. It had a slight pepper taste to it prior to lighting.
First 1/3 - It had a very smooth taste to it. Even with the tight wrap, it was burning pretty fast. It produced a medium amount of smoke. The taste wasn't over powering but I could tell it had some strength behind it. Ash was a dark grey and held on until tapped off at a little over an inch.
Second 1/3 - Cigar started to soften up a bit which helped out the smoke production. The taste was a consistent smooth with a slight hint of pepper. The cigar had a nice aroma to it.
Third 1/3 - Unfortunately, I didn't get into the last third that much. Something came up and I had to set it aside and wasn't able to get back to it.

Overall the cigar had great construction (minor flaws that didn't have anything to do with original construction). The flavor profile was smooth and enjoyable. A big thing for me is that it didn't leave a bad after taste. With those three points I am leaning toward saying that it was the high end.

Thanks Lance. It was a pretty good cigar.
stinger88 Offline
#178 Posted:
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Now for #2.
Pre-light - Big old, deep brown, very veiny toro. Another box press. However this one wasn't so tightly rolled. No significant taste on the prelight. (very cigar like)
First 1/3 - Not a lot of complex flavors but a very enjoyable cigar. It was easy to light and very easy to maintain. The loose wrap made for an easy draw and lots of smoke.
Second 1/3 - No big changes...an enjoyable, easy smoke.
Third 1/3 - The cigar was very consistent until the end. The draw was easy, smoke was plentiful, and the taste was one note but a pretty good note at that.

I liked the cigar. Not sure what this one is but I would say that even though very enjoyable, it came across as a good low end cigar.

I might have to see about getting some of these if they are in the low range. Might be a good daily type of cigar.

Thumbs up Lance.
stinger88 Offline
#179 Posted:
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And the last one....#1.

Pre-light - Unlike the #3 cigar (a slightly different shaped torpedo), this one was in the more typical torpedo shaped. It was again a box press. I guess that was Lance's intentional or unintentional themes, Box Pressed Cigars all three. The cigar had a very mild sweetness on the pre-light. Construction looked great.
First 1/3 - Very easy light and had an easy draw. This cigar burned perfectly all the way to nub. A straight line with an almost white ash. This cigar screamed med power and flavor.
Second 1/3 - Either I am chiefing this cigar or it is burning at a pretty high pace but it is cooking along something fierce. Enjoyable so far. Nothing complex, just a solid medium. (I feel a trend of this cigar)
Third 1/3 - I burned this down to just under an inch and was starting to cook my fingers.

Overall, I liked the cigar. It didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth and it was putting out a reasonable amount of smoke. However, I wouldn't say that it was the top end or the low end. It hit right in the middle.

With that being the case, I will say that this is the Mid Range cigar.

Lance, Thanks for 3 good smokes. I will open the envelope now and see just how bad my guesses were.

David.
danmdevries Offline
#180 Posted:
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stinger88 wrote:

Lance, Thanks for 3 good smokes. I will open the envelope now and see just how bad my guesses were.

David.


We're waiting ram27bat
tamapatom Offline
#181 Posted:
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After a hard day of yardwork, I sit down and and stoke up the Superstroke from Shaun's package. Never had or heard of this so sorta another blind test.

A Corona Grande it seems. I have no pressure to write a review so I light it up and open up a Boom Merigue - An imperial cream ale. Tastes like lemon merangue pie. It pairs perfect with the Superstroke. It has an effervescent flavor. Dont know how else to describe.

Sitting in my courtyard on side yard. Surrounded by palms and tropical vegetation.

Total relaxation. This ash is unbelievable. I think I might smoke the whole thing. Before it drops.

I decide to stop and run the blower one more time but I gravitate back to the cigar and the comfortable chair. As I relight my fountain ( on a timer) kicks in and i pop open a big wave. Another nice pair.

Taking this to the nub. Thanks Shaun.

lance4824 Offline
#182 Posted:
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danmdevries wrote:
We're waiting ram27bat



David I am waiting myself. Yes I did send you the Press Box challenge.

Herfing
Sunoverbeach Offline
#183 Posted:
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Press Box Challenge: my guesses Howard Cosell, Red Barber and Harry Caray
stinger88 Offline
#184 Posted:
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Alrighty here are the results.

#1 Fallen Angel Torpedo (Low...can’t say yardgar)
#2 AVO Synchro (Mid)
#3 AF Don Carlos Reserva Torpedo (High end)

Pretty close on my guesses.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#185 Posted:
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Nice reviews and good guesswork sir
SmokeMonkey Offline
#186 Posted:
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Posts: 5,688
tamapatom wrote:
After a hard day of yardwork, I sit down and and stoke up the Superstroke from Shaun's package. Never had or heard of this so sorta another blind test.

A Corona Grande it seems. I have no pressure to write a review so I light it up and open up a Boom Merigue - An imperial cream ale. Tastes like lemon merangue pie. It pairs perfect with the Superstroke. It has an effervescent flavor. Dont know how else to describe.

Sitting in my courtyard on side yard. Surrounded by palms and tropical vegetation.

Total relaxation. This ash is unbelievable. I think I might smoke the whole thing. Before it drops.

I decide to stop and run the blower one more time but I gravitate back to the cigar and the comfortable chair. As I relight my fountain ( on a timer) kicks in and i pop open a big wave. Another nice pair.

Taking this to the nub. Thanks Shaun.



Got one of these from Shaun in a trade - maybe last year. I enjoyed it greatly.
corey sellers Offline
#187 Posted:
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Me to great smoke
tamapatom Offline
#188 Posted:
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Was the Avo Synchro the Nicauragua version? Though upwards of 9 or more retail, I like to pick these up when I can get them for sub 5 which you can do on line if you shop around.
stinger88 Offline
#189 Posted:
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Yes it was the Nic version.
lance4824 Offline
#190 Posted:
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stinger88 wrote:
Alrighty here are the results.

#1 Fallen Angel Torpedo (Low...can’t say yardgar)
#2 AVO Synchro (Mid)
#3 AF Don Carlos Reserva Torpedo (High end)

Pretty close on my guesses.



#3 is AF Eye of the Shark.
lance4824 Offline
#191 Posted:
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the fallen angels are good. I got for $2 each... Best $2 Smoke
gummy jones Offline
#192 Posted:
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Mystery cigar #1 from delta [third and final review]

Beautifully constructed Churchill that screams mid to high end. Shiny and chocolatey brown wrapper with a fine oil. Triple cap and firm. Chocolate covered raisins on foot and a tobacco and faint pepper on the pre light.

1/3 - this opens as the fullest of the 3 cigars imo. Slight pepper, tobacco, and cedar. Seems Nicaraguan. Finish is medium, flavor is full. There is a really nice semi tart, semi sweet fruit note I'll call green grape. The smoke output is adequate but I would like a little more. Ash is white and burn is good. Retro gives some pepper and almost a little buttery Danish. This is a good cigar and I'm fairly certain I've had it. It is clearly the most complex out of the three I was sent. Time for a sip of this Guinness to see how the cigar changes if at all. Im sure i could hallucinate quite a few more flavors. Finish is not long and tastes of sweet tobacco, faint cayenne and pleasant white pepper. Guinness is good. I think I'll zone out until the second third and just enjoy this lovely cigar.

2/3 - ash started wonky but held on until I decided to tap it off. Smoke output slowly fell off so I touched up the light. Burn is near perfect. The fruity sweetness really seems to be ramping up and is intertwined with a sweet barbecue taste. The finish has lengthened and just when I think the pepper has faded I get a touch. Very nice. I could see how some could distinguish an espresso note here. The mouth feel is slightly chewier.

3/3 - touching up the light was a good call. The performance is really nice. The overall flavor is consistent with subtleties that we come to expect out of cigars in the boutique market. I've had more complex sticks but this is really well done. Just the right amount of changes to be interesting without being overwhelming. I'd label this medium to full and expect it to be full by the end.

The first cigar I reviewed was my least favorite and I feel strongly that it has the lowest MSRP. That is not to say it was bad. Im back and forth as to which of the next two was the high end and which the middle. The cuban may be a monte double edmundo. Today's offering was pepin-esque, but most of the good Nicaraguan cigars seem to gravitate towards that end. A great sampler from my brother on the left coast. I've enjoyed and appreciated everything you've ever sent me. Thank you so much! Okay delta, make me look stupid...
RMAN4443 Offline
#193 Posted:
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great job on the reviews gummy, very enjoyable read...Applause
stinger88 Offline
#194 Posted:
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Dan, they are on the way.
delta1 Offline
#195 Posted:
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nice reviews gummy...your descriptions of each cigar are more precise than I can usually muster.... and you have them ranked in the right order.

The first one you smoked (#2) was indeed the lowest MSRP. It was a Gilberto Oliva Reserva. Every year, my son and I look for a sub $4-5 cigar that exceeds our expectations. The Gilberto did that for both of us last year, and at about $3.50, it is a great bang for the buck.

The second cigar you reviewed (#3) was the mid-tier, and as you thought, near the top of that price range. It was an Illusione Epernay with quite a few years of age on it....the age does impart some cubanesque qualities to the smoke. That is my fave Illusione, especially so given how well they age... c3s sent them my way...

Finally, cigar #1 was the high end. It was a Tatuaje Le Verite 2013...a Nicaraguan made at the Pepin My Father factory, just as you surmised. They are among my fave Tats, but I think the 2009 Le Verite might've been a tad better...however those are long gone, while the 2013 are still available...


Great job on the reviews and the guesses, gummy...I enjoyed this trade.
gummy jones Offline
#196 Posted:
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i really dont smoke many illusione cigars and i was pretty confident it was from the isom. even the ash looked cuban! it was just so mellow and seemed to start off so grassy. maybe, as you say, it was the age. or maybe youre just being nice.

oh well, 2 out of 3 aint bad.

thanks for the great selection
that was a lot of fun

danmdevries Offline
#197 Posted:
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Posts: 17,365
Stinger's box landed yesterday. As he said in PM, he forgot the twist part. Did include a Navarre Beach can coozie, and a couple "semi local" cigars from an island a wee bit south of Florida.

3 unbandeds

DPG blue

Tat TAA 50th

ERDM CC

Cohiba Maduro CC

Viaje Summerfest

Kinda tempted to dig into the unbanded right now, but I've been up for too long and I tend to fall asleep in my garage recliner when smoking after work so I'll wait till I'm more alert.

Thank you David
stinger88 Offline
#198 Posted:
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Glad hey made. Enjoy them. The Tat 50th is wonderful.
Just Relax Offline
#199 Posted:
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Cigar #3

I got back from a 3 day work trip to Cleveland a few days ago and had about an hour until the family got back from various practices so I decided to smoke the smaller cigar.

4x46 - unsure wrapper

Prelight - a bit of cocoa on initial smell, tobacco smooth and soft, construction very good. Draw is a bit tight, but not annoyingly tight. Hints of sweet and pepper

1/3 - Right from the light this thing produced a subtle, complex spice. It wasn't overpowering and hit the back of the throat. This is very tasty like a good dessert. Ash is darker than normal and it's not producing a ton of smoke. Burn is perfect and slow.

2/3 - There was really not much change. I'm thinking back to my review last year on the high end cigar and how I underestimated the subtle nuances and I'm getting a lot of the same feeling from this but I thinking I'm picking up on it better. I feel that this is too sophisticated for my palate and just enjoy the cigar thinking I'm smoking something special.

3/3 - Was quite underwhelming actually. With the pepper that I was getting straight from the light I figured by the time I got to the end this thing would be packing a punch. The last bit of the cigar was less intense. I remember this feeling last year on the high end cigar too. There was no bitter finish.

There was no real buzz from this cigar but it was one of the most flavorful and tasty cigars that I remember having.

I'm thinking this is the high end as I felt like I was smoking very fine tobacco and enjoyed the overall experience.

I plan to smoke Cigar 1 tomorrow and I'm very intrigued by it.
danmdevries Offline
#200 Posted:
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Starting with Stingers number 1. A short corona shape, double cap, closed foot, medium-brown cigar with a very nice looking wrapper. Dry aroma is very muted cedar/humidor. Cold draw is heavy on the cedar, sweet.

First light as expected from a closed foot was very strong with more cedar. After a couple puffs it dies down. Predominantly cedar with a sweet mild vanilla finish. I like it. It's a familiar flavor profile but I can't place it.

Kid came out to the garage to have me air up his bike tires so I got distracted and it went out.

Relit and got back in. Inch of ash knocked off.

Less cedar and spice up front but still on the retrohale. Sweet vanilla finish remains. It's not a very Smokey cigar. Burn is slightly uneven but that's likely my fault.

Halfway, it's still one dimensional. Cedar/vanilla. Seems right in the middle of strength and flavor. A nice short smoke.

Wrapped up at 35 minutes. About an inch and a quarter left but don't feel the need to nub it, tasting some tar buildup. It's decent, nothing terribly special. I've had these before but can't place it.

Calling number 1 the yard gar. Nice short smoke, relit without drama, and carried the same flavor throughout.
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