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Something cool or flashy with good artwork/marketing like Gurkha, but not trash?
vanhalenps4 Offline
#1 Posted:
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So first let me say, before two days ago I did not care at all about bands, boxes, names, cool shapes, etc.. I smoke what is cheap from the B&M and I normally don't care for fanciness, I can see marketing for what it is and just want a big stack of reliable cigars to sit on for a while and enjoy daily. That said, I'm kind of catching an itch for the extra layers that can be found in this hobby.. I used to fantasize about big variety packs, now I like the idea of nice sealed boxes with shiny wrappers and douchey names. And throw in "exclusive" in Latin somewhere too. Cigars are a luxury, not a necessity; why not be luxurious in looks and presentation as well?
So about the title...........
Forgive me for thinking Gurkha was a good cigar for $2-3. I thought it was a $5 cigar sold for $8 for the extra flair, that could be found here for $2. Hell I even thought in some cases they could be "collectible" and actually fetch $8 in a couple years or maybe street vend them to tailgaters or outside of concerts. For some reason cigars named after historical **** and dictators under the banner of honorable soldiers known as the Gurkha became appealing when I saw the low prices(under certain circumstances). From reading the story of the founder, it seems like he wanted to create an upscale product and not junk.. And I LIKE hand carved treasure chests and ammo cans and three wrapper sticks. I'm not afraid of floating the cost of HYPE either, as long as the cigar itself is overall good and consistent.

So cigar bid Gurkha... It looked like a real inefficiency in the market, a loophole. I thought I remembered watching positive reviews a few years ago; People still say good things on CI reviews. Pray for me because I won a few auctions for some five packs. Not again though. (This whole shift of opinion has happened over the course of maybe 4 days of being somewhat obsessed with the online cigar world. For some reason I get a strong urge to immerse myself in this world at least one week per year)

I like the look of Ave Maria and the Crusader oriented lingo and won a box. I like the aesthetic of Man O War with the gladiator or Spartan helmet but I don't like to say "Man Oh War" out loud so I don't know if I will be buying them after also hearing of some quality issues... Assuming I will be getting a "decent cigar" from these offerings, according to reviews and what is said here. I bought some PUNCH because London Club Maduro was the best cigar I smoked for a long time.

TL,DR
Looking for something cool to look at in addition to good smoke.. Doesn't matter if they can be found on this site or for super cheap.
I want to be a fancy boy. I want cigars that offend and intrigue.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-10-2012
Posts: 9,854
vanhalenps4 wrote:
So first let me say, before two days ago I did not care at all about bands, boxes, names, cool shapes, etc.. I smoke what is cheap from the B&M and I normally don't care for fanciness, I can see marketing for what it is and just want a big stack of reliable cigars to sit on for a while and enjoy daily. That said, I'm kind of catching an itch for the extra layers that can be found in this hobby.. I used to fantasize about big variety packs, now I like the idea of nice sealed boxes with shiny wrappers and douchey names. And throw in "exclusive" in Latin somewhere too. Cigars are a luxury, not a necessity; why not be luxurious in looks and presentation as well?
So about the title...........
Forgive me for thinking Gurkha was a good cigar for $2-3. I thought it was a $5 cigar sold for $8 for the extra flair, that could be found here for $2. Hell I even thought in some cases they could be "collectible" and actually fetch $8 in a couple years or maybe street vend them to tailgaters or outside of concerts. For some reason cigars named after historical **** and dictators under the banner of honorable soldiers known as the Gurkha became appealing when I saw the low prices(under certain circumstances). From reading the story of the founder, it seems like he wanted to create an upscale product and not junk.. And I LIKE hand carved treasure chests and ammo cans and three wrapper sticks. I'm not afraid of floating the cost of HYPE either, as long as the cigar itself is overall good and consistent.

So cigar bid Gurkha... It looked like a real inefficiency in the market, a loophole. I thought I remembered watching positive reviews a few years ago; People still say good things on CI reviews. Pray for me because I won a few auctions for some five packs. Not again though. (This whole shift of opinion has happened over the course of maybe 4 days of being somewhat obsessed with the online cigar world. For some reason I get a strong urge to immerse myself in this world at least one week per year)

I like the look of Ave Maria and the Crusader oriented lingo and won a box. I like the aesthetic of Man O War with the gladiator or Spartan helmet but I don't like to say "Man Oh War" out loud so I don't know if I will be buying them after also hearing of some quality issues... Assuming I will be getting a "decent cigar" from these offerings, according to reviews and what is said here. I bought some PUNCH because London Club Maduro was the best cigar I smoked for a long time.

TL,DR
Looking for something cool to look at in addition to good smoke.. Doesn't matter if they can be found on this site or for super cheap.
I want to be a fancy boy. I want cigars that offend and intrigue.

I'm gonna go plug this into Google translate... get back to you in a bit...
vanhalenps4 Offline
#3 Posted:
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Sorry my English is not that great I was dropped a lot as a kid and my mom did a lot of drugs... with me last week
smokestaxx Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
Sorry my English is not that great I was dropped a lot as a kid and my mom did a lot of drugs... with me last week

That explains a lot...
You can't get any fancier than Gurkhas bro. Keep smoking those.
corey sellers Offline
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Nevermind , Opel I will let you have this one
tonygraz Offline
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Great first post, do you mind if we call you vhs ?
opelmanta1900 Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
Sorry my English is not that great I was dropped a lot as a kid and my mom did a lot of drugs... with me last week

"Just when I thought you couldn't possibly be any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!"

Kinda like this guy... Still not reading through that first post though...
Palama Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
Great first post, do you mind if we call you vhs ?


Beta was better (...coming from an ex-Sony guy, whatcha expect?...)
Salmoneye Offline
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Que?
vanhalenps4 Offline
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smokestaxx wrote:
That explains a lot...
You can't get any fancier than Gurkhas bro. Keep smoking those.


I've literally never had one before in my life.. I thought I knew the truth about them, that they aren't amazing, and not worth what they usually sell for outside of samplers. But then a bunch of people said that they aren't even mediocre, and I am now sad that I bought a bunch for $2 each to be delivered this week.. It's a weird feeling and I still don't know who is right.. They keep selling them to people who smoke them? Like I don't want to have these in my humidor for a couple months just to find out they really are not good.
What do you think of them?
corey sellers Offline
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Opel I agree after reading that I think I lost a few IQ points blah blah ba blah is what I got out of it sorry beta just how I seen it
vanhalenps4 Offline
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tonygraz wrote:
Great first post, do you mind if we call you vhs ?


You can call me that, but no one else.
corey sellers Offline
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Do you like camping
Pancakes or waffles
Long walks on the beach
Turkish prison yes or no
Ginger or Mary Ann
Wad or fold
Sit or squat first thing
Cello on or off

We have to know where you stand

Anything I missed fellas
vanhalenps4 Offline
#14 Posted:
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corey sellers wrote:
Opel I agree after reading that I think I lost a few IQ points blah blah ba blah is what I got out of it sorry beta just how I seen it


Sorry mate I don't really refine past the brainstorming phase on these sorts of matters.. You're definitely right I mean it's pretty much the story of a guy who has spent way too much time on the internet reading the opinions of a couple dozen cigar snobs who had a bad experience with a brand once.. or is it? Please Mr. Sellers tell me, is Gurkha as bad as people say? You seem like you know things. What is good in this world?
rfenst Offline
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Welcome aboard!
Send the Gurkahs you won to the troops serving out of the country...
vanhalenps4 Offline
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corey sellers wrote:
Do you like camping
Pancakes or waffles
Long walks on the beach
Turkish prison yes or no
Ginger or Mary Ann
Wad or fold
Sit or squat first thing
Cello on or off

We have to know where you stand

Anything I missed fellas


Do you like camping YES
Pancakes or waffles Pancakes
Long walks on the beach I wish
Turkish prison yes or no TURKISH ROYAL
Ginger or Mary Ann Ginger
Wad or fold Fold
Sit or squat first thing Depends if I'm on a toilet or in an abandoned house
Cello on or off HAlf off.. Let the tip breath
corey sellers Offline
#17 Posted:
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It dam sure ain't gurkhas better cigars for the money out there would you like for me to send you a few suggestions if you like pretty rings there is one that is really good on sale all the time
corey sellers Offline
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Still here I like it
frankj1 Offline
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rfenst wrote:
Welcome aboard!
Send the Gurkahs you won to the troops serving out of the country...

this is good advice.

is it pro bono Robert?
rfenst Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
this is good advice.

is it pro bono Robert?


For a fellow CBidder, of course!

How you been?
frankj1 Offline
#21 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
For a fellow CBidder, of course!

How you been?

I come here to get away. Retirement has afforded me a bit more time than I can fill routinely so my brain gets flooded with more stuff than I can take sometimes...

Lots of triggers. Helping Caren as best as I can. But I'm still me...thanks.
vanhalenps4 Offline
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corey sellers wrote:
It dam sure ain't gurkhas better cigars for the money out there would you like for me to send you a few suggestions if you like pretty rings there is one that is really good on sale all the time


Yes that would be great..

I think I found one and a solution to the dilemma.. I'm going to pick up some Ramon Bueso's and draw hand grenades on the wrappers with Gold Elite Series (TM) Sharpie. GES ink has real 24 karat gold mined in Cuba according to a guy on Alibaba.

But I'm open to your suggestions as well
Whistlebritches Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
Yes that would be great..

I think I found one and a solution to the dilemma.. I'm going to pick up some Ramon Bueso's and draw hand grenades on the wrappers with Gold Elite Series (TM) Sharpie. GES ink has real 24 karat gold mined in Cuba according to a guy on Alibaba.

But I'm open to your suggestions as well



Life is short......smoke good cigars
vanhalenps4 Offline
#24 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Welcome aboard!
Send the Gurkahs you won to the troops serving out of the country...


Thank you.
That's a noble idea and I'd like to be the kind of person who does things of that nature, but I'm just not, at this point. But thinking about it makes me feel really good inside.
rfenst Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
Thank you.
That's a noble idea and I'd like to be the kind of person who does things of that nature, but I'm just not, at this point. But thinking about it makes me feel really good inside.


That's OK. Now you will have to smoke those crappy Gurkhas. LOLHerfing
smokestaxx Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
I've literally never had one before in my life.. I thought I knew the truth about them, that they aren't amazing, and not worth what they usually sell for outside of samplers. But then a bunch of people said that they aren't even mediocre, and I am now sad that I bought a bunch for $2 each to be delivered this week.. It's a weird feeling and I still don't know who is right.. They keep selling them to people who smoke them? Like I don't want to have these in my humidor for a couple months just to find out they really are not good.
What do you think of them?

Gurkhas are the best. But you can't buy the cheap ones..try the His Majesty's Reserve. They're about $750 a cigar, $15,000 for a box. You can't get any fancier than that.
opelmanta1900 Offline
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What if you smoke em whilst wearing a bow tie?
smokestaxx Offline
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That's the only way to smoke them..
Did you ever get this guy's original post translated by Google?
CelticBomber Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I come here to get away. Retirement has afforded me a bit more time than I can fill routinely so my brain gets flooded with more stuff than I can take sometimes...

Lots of triggers. Helping Caren as best as I can. But I'm still me...thanks.



If you're that bored where can we hook up? I know all the best spots legal and illegal. I'll have you doing rails off some whore's ass in no time. Of course, the down side is you'd probably end up dead. Sounds like a win win to me.
tonygraz Offline
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Most of the guys here are anti-Gurkha and not without reason. I've smoked a lot of different Gurkhas and came to the following conclusions. If it's a variety that's been around a long time-avoid them. If only one place has a particular variety - avoid them. Forget about the infused overpriced tubed crap. If you find one you like, buy a chitload of them because after a while they will change the blend and they will suck. Until recently Gurkhas were made by other cigar companies - not sure if this will change anything. In my last trip to a brick and mortar shop, the only Gurkha they had for sale was the Ghost.
There are some good Gurkhas, some bad ones, a few that are really good and a few that are really bad, but the bulk of them are mediocre. I may smoke one today or tomorrow if it stops raining.
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On another board, I've conversed with industry insiders. Some have made the claim that Gurkha releases a new cigar using very high end tobacco. Once the cigar garnishes good reviews, they start substituting inferior tobacco. Again, only claims with no proof. I did experience this first hand with the Black Dragon. I was fortunate to win some of the last of the initial release for cheap. They where fantastic. The wrapper was so oily, that the cigars had a wet oil line behind the burn. The release disappeared for a couple months and then came back. The new ones where average at best and lacked the oil line behind the burn, which lead me to the assumption that they had changed the wrapper. Just my personal experience. Maybe my assumption was correct, and maybe it was wrong.

David
corey sellers Offline
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PM sent
frankj1 Offline
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CelticBomber wrote:
If you're that bored where can we hook up? I know all the best spots legal and illegal. I'll have you doing rails off some whore's ass in no time. Of course, the down side is you'd probably end up dead. Sounds like a win win to me.

I'll be right over.
tonygraz Offline
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
On another board, I've conversed with industry insiders. Some have made the claim that Gurkha releases a new cigar using very high end tobacco. Once the cigar garnishes good reviews, they start substituting inferior tobacco. Again, only claims with no proof. I did experience this first hand with the Black Dragon. I was fortunate to win some of the last of the initial release for cheap. They where fantastic. The wrapper was so oily, that the cigars had a wet oil line behind the burn. The release disappeared for a couple months and then came back. The new ones where average at best and lacked the oil line behind the burn, which lead me to the assumption that they had changed the wrapper. Just my personal experience. Maybe my assumption was correct, and maybe it was wrong.

David


One of the good ones was the Black Dragon Nublizers - they disappeared and never came back, but a while later Black Dragons came out in the churchill/presidente sizes and they were mediocre at best.
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tonygraz wrote:
Most of the guys here are anti-Gurkha and not without reason. I've smoked a lot of different Gurkhas and came to the following conclusions. If it's a variety that's been around a long time-avoid them. If only one place has a particular variety - avoid them. Forget about the infused overpriced tubed crap. If you find one you like, buy a chitload of them because after a while they will change the blend and they will suck. Until recently Gurkhas were made by other cigar companies - not sure if this will change anything. In my last trip to a brick and mortar shop, the only Gurkha they had for sale was the Ghost.
There are some good Gurkhas, some bad ones, a few that are really good and a few that are really bad, but the bulk of them are mediocre. I may smoke one today or tomorrow if it stops raining.


This is what I don't have time to figure out when there's so much else out there. And I've heard of too many people having the same quality issues inside a single box. It seems like they want to make a billion different cigars and if only some of them are good, that's somehow acceptable to them
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tonygraz wrote:
One of the good ones was the Black Dragon Nublizers - they disappeared and never came back, but a while later Black Dragons came out in the churchill/presidente sizes and they were mediocre at best.


Cigar obsession did a review of the nublizer and a chunk of the wrapper came off with the band
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Sometimes some nice Gurkha artwork can be had on eBay. Tin signs and promotional graphics.
tamapatom Offline
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Nice artwork great cigar My Father le bijou
JGKAMIN Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
Sorry my English is not that great I was dropped a lot as a kid and my mom did a lot of drugs... with me last week

Mr. Jones, why did you change your username?
GhettoNigFabulous Offline
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LOL only trendy boneheads look for flashy , cool bands

Cigars are all about timeless, classy looking bands. The more old fashioned it looks the better. Though I do like to see some nice colors on the band. Some of my favorites are Joya De Nicaragua original band, CAO Brazilia, Partagas, Ramon Allones cuban
vanhalenps4 Offline
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GhettoNigFabulous wrote:
LOL only trendy boneheads look for flashy , cool bands

Cigars are all about timeless, classy looking bands. The more old fashioned it looks the better. Though I do like to see some nice colors on the band. Some of my favorites are Joya De Nicaragua original band, CAO Brazilia, Partagas, Ramon Allones cuban


My favorite cigar band is now the older style Alec Bradley Tempus. I like the imperial/ Romanesque bold red, white, gold and gray with the crown and old English font.. Sadly the box I snagged today does not have such an awesome band on it because they are now somewhat toned down and boring

That's cool that you like the traditional old fashioned bands
qmech Offline
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Does anyone know where Frank went?
Ewok126 Offline
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I think Frank started to read the post and it caused a brain aneurysm to pop and his left eyeball fell out. My left nut hit the floor. I did copy and paste in google translate. What it said was. "WTF and Hell naw try Yahoo."

It reminded me of those Diamond commercials. You know the one that each year their saying would change.

Diamonds... A girl's best friend.

Diamonds... They will leave her breathless.

Then I was waiting on the next one to say...
Diamonds, That will shut her the Fug up!

Somebody hurry up and send this boy a cigar covered in glitter PLEASE! Brick wall



Seriously FruFru dude if you really like Gurkhas keep with em but if you have not figured it out yet here is the deal. Even the best looking woman in the world can have rotten puzy. When you get your first curly hair, you will realize it is not all about the glitter and glam. A true cigar smoker does not judge a cover by its book. Presentation is nice no doubt but do not let that be the deciding factor on your cigar purchase. The quality of your cigar is what impresses the grownups not how sissy pretty the band is. Well, unless you hang around with idiots and snowflakes. If so, I can get you a box of black & milds and I will put some unicorn spit on them for you so you can impress the millennials.

Remember the old saying, "You can't put lipstick on a pig" which is exactly what Gurkha has done .Anxious
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qmech wrote:
Does anyone know where Frank went?

well, I was on my way to Philly to meet CelticBomber when I was overtaken by common sense...and the threat of divorce.
frankj1 Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
I think Frank started to read the post and it caused a brain aneurysm to pop and his left eyeball fell out. My left nut hit the floor. I did copy and paste in google translate. What it said was. "WTF and Hell naw try Yahoo."

It reminded me of those Diamond commercials. You know the one that each year their saying would change.

Diamonds... A girl's best friend.

Diamonds... They will leave her breathless.

Then I was waiting on the next one to say...
Diamonds, That will shut her the Fug up!

Somebody hurry up and send this boy a cigar covered in glitter PLEASE! Brick wall



Seriously FruFru dude if you really like Gurkhas keep with em but if you have not figured it out yet here is the deal. Even the best looking woman in the world can have rotten puzy. When you get your first curly hair, you will realize it is not all about the glitter and glam. A true cigar smoker does not judge a cover by its book. Presentation is nice no doubt but do not let that be the deciding factor on your cigar purchase. The quality of your cigar is what impresses the grownups not how sissy pretty the band is. Well, unless you hang around with idiots and snowflakes. If so, I can get you a box of black & milds and I will put some unicorn spit on them for you so you can impress the millennials.

Remember the old saying, "You can't put lipstick on a pig" which is exactly what Gurkha has done .Anxious

so then you can put lipstick on a pig?
Mandoman Offline
#46 Posted:
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tamapatom wrote:
Nice artwork great cigar My Father le bijou

Like he said.
My Father artwork is very, very nice. The cigars are very, very good, too!
gummy jones Offline
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White owl is flashy

Grape ftw
Buckwheat Offline
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vanhalenps4 wrote:
I want cigars that offend and intrigue.


Reband all of your cigars with custom baby announcement bands which list the baby as gender neutral. That will offend 95% of the members here. Beer

tonygraz Offline
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And if they shun those, get some "for rectal use only" labels from Dan.
vanhalenps4 Offline
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Ewok126 wrote:
I think Frank started to read the post and it caused a brain aneurysm to pop and his left eyeball fell out. My left nut hit the floor. I did copy and paste in google translate. What it said was. "WTF and Hell naw try Yahoo."

It reminded me of those Diamond commercials. You know the one that each year their saying would change.

Diamonds... A girl's best friend.

Diamonds... They will leave her breathless.

Then I was waiting on the next one to say...
Diamonds, That will shut her the Fug up!

Somebody hurry up and send this boy a cigar covered in glitter PLEASE! Brick wall



Seriously FruFru dude if you really like Gurkhas keep with em but if you have not figured it out yet here is the deal. Even the best looking woman in the world can have rotten puzy. When you get your first curly hair, you will realize it is not all about the glitter and glam. A true cigar smoker does not judge a cover by its book. Presentation is nice no doubt but do not let that be the deciding factor on your cigar purchase. The quality of your cigar is what impresses the grownups not how sissy pretty the band is. Well, unless you hang around with idiots and snowflakes. If so, I can get you a box of black & milds and I will put some unicorn spit on them for you so you can impress the millennials.

Remember the old saying, "You can't put lipstick on a pig" which is exactly what Gurkha has done .Anxious



You criticize my OP and then go on to write that?

I'm not out to impress anyone in the 100 square foot area that we are still allowed to smoke in these days.. I want something for my own enjoyment, which includes looking at them and their shiny fancy bands. I think I found the sweet spot with %#$#&^%@ #&$^#^&&* cigars.. Not posting it here because a bunch of jagoffs will bid them up, but not even on the same shelf as Gurkha
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