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victor809 Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 9:32 AM EST
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Some serious plummeting here from that easy to win trade war.

Almost back down to 25000.

Literally lost 1000 pts in like 4 days. And no one's mentioned a thing here
opelmanta1900 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 9:45 AM EST
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What was it at when Obama left office?
victor809 Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 9:50 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
What was it at when Obama left office?


Eyeballing the trajectory at that time, I would say on track to be higher than it is.

But no matter how much you wanted it, obama wasn't going to be president in 2019. Ya know he didn't even run?
teedubbya Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:09 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
What was it at when Obama left office?



What was it when he went in and which way was it going?
opelmanta1900 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:12 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
What was it when he went in and which way was it going?

1. Low
2. Lower than it is now
opelmanta1900 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:12 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Eyeballing the trajectory at that time, I would say on track to be higher than it is.

But no matter how much you wanted it, obama wasn't going to be president in 2019. Ya know he didn't even run?

Cuz he's scurred...
teedubbya Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:16 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
1. Low
2. Lower than it is now



Yup he came in while it was low and tanking. Then it stabilized and began to grow and continue to grow which it is still doing (short of predictable dips... and maybe some flawed thinking/actions).

All that aside I think the point is (at least for me) I don't put all or most credit or blame for market performance on the president unless I see direct actions causing something. It seems some do.... and others put all the credit and none of the blame or vice versa depending on who is in. Those are the neutral logical thinkers.
teedubbya Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:18 AM EST
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I also remember the morons in here claiming Obama was going to stay in office after his second term.... the hand wringing was awesome. It was a fact not an opinion.... just like he wasn't born here etc.

Now the other morons are doing the same about Trump.

Don't impeach the slug, vote him out. And if he should win we get what we deserve. Wait another 4 then vote in a Kardashian.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:20 AM EST
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I'm sure there are fine idiots on both sides...
opelmanta1900 Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:21 AM EST
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And for what it's worth, Obama did his best not to leave... Remember all the obamites that had to be purged from government positions after trump took office?
teedubbya Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:21 AM EST
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whole villages of them and other villages left leaderless
victor809 Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:22 AM EST
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I think we've seen a lot more volatility in the market the past 2 years (maybe I'm wrong, perhaps actually doing a statistical analysis of the variation would prove otherwise... but I don't have the time for the math). This volatility irritates me, because I have a nagging inclination that it's partially intentional.

People can make money off volatility. Lots of money very quickly. And if someone just happened to know what dumb things the president was going to say right before he tweeted them.... they could get in front of a lot of the volatility (not all of it, but there is definitely some tied to his statements).

Maybe I'm wrong (I hope I am)... but it nags at me.
teedubbya Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:22 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
And for what it's worth, Obama did his best not to leave... Remember all the obamites that had to be purged from government positions after trump took office?



As someone who has been up close and personal to several transitions..... (not including ZRXs surgery) LOL you funny.


That obammy sure is different than the other folk
opelmanta1900 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:24 AM EST
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TW hangs with tranny's... How's danm's truck coming along?
teedubbya Offline
#15 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:25 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I think we've seen a lot more volatility in the market the past 2 years (maybe I'm wrong, perhaps actually doing a statistical analysis of the variation would prove otherwise... but I don't have the time for the math). This volatility irritates me, because I have a nagging inclination that it's partially intentional.

People can make money off volatility. Lots of money very quickly. And if someone just happened to know what dumb things the president was going to say right before he tweeted them.... they could get in front of a lot of the volatility (not all of it, but there is definitely some tied to his statements).

Maybe I'm wrong (I hope I am)... but it nags at me.



Twice in the last couple years my gut told me to move all my 401K stuff out of the markets thinking the markets would dip, then throw it all back in when it does. Both times I didn't do it and was right. Next time I will be wrong LOL. *sigh*

It took all last year to make up my losses from the year before, but yes I am ahead of the day bammy left.
victor809 Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:25 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
TW hangs with tranny's... How's danm's truck coming along?


Not sure he said "hangs with"....
His actual statement was "up close and personal".... you know... getting his face right in there.





He usually refuses to acknowledge their existence afterwards.
opelmanta1900 Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:25 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I think we've seen a lot more volatility in the market the past 2 years (maybe I'm wrong, perhaps actually doing a statistical analysis of the variation would prove otherwise... but I don't have the time for the math). This volatility irritates me, because I have a nagging inclination that it's partially intentional.

People can make money off volatility. Lots of money very quickly. And if someone just happened to know what dumb things the president was going to say right before he tweeted them.... they could get in front of a lot of the volatility (not all of it, but there is definitely some tied to his statements).

Maybe I'm wrong (I hope I am)... but it nags at me.

This might work if the president also had the power to tweet smart things that could improve the market... His Twitter valve is one-way...
teedubbya Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:25 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
TW hangs with tranny's... How's danm's truck coming along?



he keeps blowing a seal
opelmanta1900 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:26 AM EST
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Poor loose seal...
teedubbya Offline
#20 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:26 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Not sure he said "hangs with"....
His actual statement was "up close and personal".... you know... getting his face right in there.





He usually refuses to acknowledge their existence afterwards.



Anyone that knows me knows I don't hang. on a good day I just protrude a little.
teedubbya Offline
#21 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:28 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
This might work if the president also had the power to tweet smart things that could improve the market... His Twitter valve is one-way...



Largely true but not absolute. He did save that church in France.
victor809 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:28 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
This might work if the president also had the power to tweet smart things that could improve the market... His Twitter valve is one-way...



Not smart things... but he has tweeted dumb, incorrect things which have altered share prices.

He made some inaccurate statements or tweets about an electric truck company the other day and their stock went up 200%.

If someone had known that a little before....
teedubbya Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:29 AM EST
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opelmanta1900 wrote:
Poor loose seal...



I'd never seen a seal but its flippers behind its head and smoke a cigarette before. who knew?
dstieger Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:32 AM EST
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this time the hurtin' won't heal


unless it does
teedubbya Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:34 AM EST
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I think it will. I don't think China wants this economic war anymore than we do.... and Trump thinks more long term than they do.
victor809 Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 10:51 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I think it will. I don't think China wants this economic war anymore than we do.... and Trump thinks more long term than they do.


hehehehe
opelmanta1900 Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 11:15 AM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
I'd never seen a seal but its flippers behind its head and smoke a cigarette before. who knew?

Have you been visiting hankhidesthesardines.su?
Sunoverbeach Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 11:35 AM EST
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On a more important note, wouldn't crossing back below 25000 invalidate the previous contest win? Game back on!!!
Mr. Jones Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 12:17 PM EST
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No stocks since FOOOOOOK-A-SHIMA
WENT DOWN ...years ago...

Have $1,300 in a my-nute IRA I never moved..,
Only stocks I own...

I don't give TWO SHEEEEETS about the DOW.

BUT...
MAYBE..JUST MAYBE ...I DO...

IN SWITZERLAND...

FRIGGIN F.B.I. fun bored idiots forensic accountants couldn't find their own assholessss in the daylight when they RAN AMOK ALL OVER EUROPE ON THE TAXPAYERS DIME in 2012-2014...GETTING WASTED ON LIQOUR AND HIGH CLASS DINING literally spending multiple $$$millions on my NON-CASE......TRYING TO FIND MY F.O.R.T.U.N.E. from that heroin run I made in 1989 from PISA , ITALY to Munich , Germany in a WAY OVERWEIGHT FORD SEDAN....

THAT $35 K "MULE RUN" HAS DOUBLED SO MANY TIMES OVER 30 YEARS...IT WOULD MAKE THEIR HEADS SPIN OFF...

BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Hey "G.A.R.Y."....

HOW'S LIFE IN THAT LATVIAN NUDEST CAMP
GOING?
"S.S.G." FBI AGENTS ARE DUUUUU-PITTTT F.U.K.S.
delta1 Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 3:43 PM EST
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poor Gary...Latvian Nudist Camp??? wasn't Sacha Baron Cohen's furball sidekick Latvian?
delta1 Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, May 9 2019, 3:51 PM EST
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wasn't Trump's Proud Shutdown largely blamed for the "correction" in December 2018 and January 2019?

His corporate tax cuts caused a long spike in the markets...

and his talk/imposition of tariffs on China have caused a couple of dives...the first one stopping an upward trend after his tax cuts...and his recent b1tch about trade negotiations with China...


he seems to like to toy around with those kinds of decisions....be interesting to see if any of his kids have timed any buys and sales just before his proclamations....I'm sure he's too smart to do any trading himself...
victor809 Offline
#32 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 9:47 AM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
On a more important note, wouldn't crossing back below 25000 invalidate the previous contest win? Game back on!!!


If it hits 25000 from the other direction, shouldn't whoever selected that date win as well?
deadeyedick Offline
#33 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 12:25 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
On a more important note, wouldn't crossing back below 25000 invalidate the previous contest win? Game back on!!!


If you can find the guy who won you can ask for the prize back. Think he only posted once but he prolly smoked them all by now.
victor809 Offline
#34 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 12:38 PM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
If you can find the guy who won you can ask for the prize back. Think he only posted once but he prolly smoked them all by now.


Wow... I didn't notice that... He literally only posted 2 times, to post his contest entry, and hasn't been back on the site in 3 months.

Guess he didn't like us
frankj1 Offline
#35 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 1:03 PM EST
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I heard he worked for Goldman-Sachs
victor809 Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 4:01 PM EST
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.... and now we've had a bit of a recovery. A literal 450 pt move today. Because of tweets saying trade talks are continuing.

There is a LOT of tracking between twitler's twitter feed and our DJI.

I would not be terribly surprised if someone were making bank off of knowing what he will tweet before he does.

Hell.... someone with a global social network and a massive programmer department and just happens to control the medium through which these messages are sent could theoretically tie a 20 second delay to his sent tweets, and then provide the information to traders real-time.
tailgater Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 4:11 PM EST
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he he.
Frank said "sacks"
frankj1 Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 4:26 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
he he.
Frank said "sacks"


believe me, I was concerned doing that here.
But I didn't know how to spell Lehman Bros.
They're gone anyway, right?
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 6:57 PM EST
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isn't goldman sachs a derogatory way of making fun of a jewish disease?
delta1 Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 7:08 PM EST
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Lehman Bros and Bear Sterns went bye bye during the Great Recession...
teedubbya Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 7:09 PM EST
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You mean the Bush recession. The Obama recovery is still going strong despite attempts to slow it.
frankj1 Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, May 10 2019, 8:14 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
isn't goldman sachs a derogatory way of making fun of a jewish disease?

yes.
unless I say it, of course.
delta1 Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, May 12 2019, 7:18 PM EST
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I heard those with that specific disease are too big.....................................................................to fail...
teedubbya Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, May 12 2019, 7:35 PM EST
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If frank ever gets Peyronie's disease someone’s gonna lose an eye.... maybe him.
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#45 Posted: Sun, May 12 2019, 7:49 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
If frank ever gets Peyronie's disease someone’s gonna lose an eye.... maybe him.

gives whole new meaning to the term "coming full circle"...Anxious
frankj1 Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, May 12 2019, 7:58 PM EST
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I appreciate the support
Mr. Jones Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, May 13 2019, 6:12 AM EST
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Frankie has what disease?
⏳⌛⏳ohhhhhhh , that one
victor809 Offline
#48 Posted: Mon, May 13 2019, 9:07 AM EST
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Almost back down to 25000....
deadeyedick Offline
#49 Posted: Mon, May 13 2019, 9:45 AM EST
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Seems Victor has a newfound interest in the DOW. Must be the stock options
dstieger Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, May 13 2019, 10:56 AM EST
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I gotta think than anyone well left of center is interested in the DOW when it's headed south....for now, anyway....probably even joyfully interested
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