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teedubbya Offline
#51 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 11:58 AM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I didn't vote for Trump... I voted against Hillary... Mellow



Somewhere along the line you fell in love with him even though at first you pretended to be hard to get. It's ok. I know you have a tender heart and if you find him dreamy you just do. You have to follow your heart.

DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:04 PM EST
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Hillary lost... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#53 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:09 PM EST
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But you won. You won a new lover that actually does some of the things you claim Hillary was guilty of and makes you feel better. You embrace what you claimed to be against. You will always have Benghazi.
DrafterX Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:15 PM EST
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Still haven't heard what Trump is gonna be charged with... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:21 PM EST
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Probably the same thing Hillary was except Hill dog doesn’t have that whole President can’t be charged thing going on.
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:30 PM EST
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Bill was charged with screwing his intern and lying about it.. Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:37 PM EST
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He was found not guilty and innocent and stuff.
izonfire Offline
#58 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:41 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
He was found not guilty and innocent and stuff.


Depends on what your definition of "is" is
DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:44 PM EST
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He plead guilty to purgatory and stuff.. Mellow
DrafterX Offline
#60 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:45 PM EST
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But Sharpton prayed with him so everyone forgave him... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#61 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:56 PM EST
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Using the trump logic he simply didn't do it. there was no BJ
dstieger Offline
#62 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 12:58 PM EST
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When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
DrafterX Offline
#63 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 1:05 PM EST
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True... True... Mellow
RMAN4443 Offline
#64 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 1:23 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Using the trump logic he simply didn't do it. there was no BJ

didn't Billy boy say oral sex wasn't adultery according to the Bible??....Think

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/01/26/time/kirn.html
teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 1:31 PM EST
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Exactly. And we have decided if someone did something wrong before it makes it right now rather than wrong all the time. Clinton cleared the way for a lot of wrong doing.
frankj1 Offline
#66 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 1:39 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I thought wars made money.. Think

to Victor goes the spoils, or something like that.
DrafterX Offline
#67 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 1:47 PM EST
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I bet a lot of stuff gets on Victor... Mellow
victor809 Offline
#68 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 3:37 PM EST
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Mostly just the panties women throw at me.
delta1 Offline
#69 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 3:44 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
Still haven't heard what Trump is gonna be charged with... Mellow


the Mueller Report lists ten separate instances of obstruction of justice, in great detail, with specific underlying evidence....but I doubt any Trump automaton will read the Mueller report to see the compelling arguments laid out against their idol...

however, some may be willing to check out an abbreviated summary.....there is a decent summary in Wikipedia, which lists each of the ten Obstruction of Justice charges against Trump that are laid out in the Mueller report...if Trump's base can be objective for just 5 minutes, they'll learn that the pablum they've been fed by Trump and his media is just empty calories...

but if they continue to repeat back what Trump says "no collusion, no obstruction (notice he doesn't say "total exoneration" anymore) they have gone back for extra helpings of the kool-aid...

from Wikipedia:

"2.3 Episodes of alleged obstruction
2.3.1 Trump campaign's response to Russian support
2.3.2 President's conduct in Michael Flynn investigation
2.3.3 President's reaction to the FBI's Russia investigation being publicized
2.3.4 Dismissal of James Comey
2.3.5 President's efforts to remove the special counsel
2.3.6 President's efforts to curtail the Special Counsel investigation
2.3.7 President's efforts to prevent disclosures about Trump Tower meeting
2.3.8 President's efforts to have Attorney General control investigation
2.3.9 President orders McGahn to deny reports
2.3.10 President's pressuring of Flynn, Manafort, and "redacted name"
2.3.11 President's pressuring of Michael Cohen"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_Report
izonfire Offline
#70 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 3:48 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
He plead guilty to purgatory and stuff.. Mellow


I think everyone's gonna have to plead guilty to purgatory at some point, if that's the way it really works. Think
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#71 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 3:59 PM EST
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It all looks pretty minor Delta... Definitely not a crime or misdemeanor.. comments taken out of context most likely.. Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#72 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 5:44 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Mostly just the panties women throw at me.

my bad.
corrected version: To Victor Goes The Soiled.
delta1 Offline
#73 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 5:52 PM EST
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Mueller said that they would have charged anyone else who did what Trump did, but because of the DOJ policy prohibiting indicting a sitting POTUS, he referred his findings to Congress...


guessing that Drafter won't bother reading the Wikipedia summary of the Mueller Report, let alone the report itself...he's such an automaton...
RMAN4443 Offline
#74 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 6:18 PM EST
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So Mueller let Trump off the hook because he was Constitutionally barred from charging a sitting POTUS with a crime, why was his inner circle not charged?
Surely Ivanka, Don Jr., Jared Kushner, et al, would have been implicated somehow, in the conspiracy, obstruction, or collusion if Trump was...pretty hard not to be involved, if your at all the meetingsThink
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#75 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 6:23 PM EST
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When did the Mueller say that..?? Huh
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#76 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 6:24 PM EST
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I was at a Meeting once where some dudes started smoking pot... It didn't end well... Sad
teedubbya Offline
#77 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 6:54 PM EST
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Rmann here is an idea for you. Read the report. Lol.
delta1 Offline
#78 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 6:54 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
So Mueller let Trump off the hook because he was Constitutionally barred from charging a sitting POTUS with a crime, why was his inner circle not charged?
Surely Ivanka, Don Jr., Jared Kushner, et al, would have been implicated somehow, in the conspiracy, obstruction, or collusion if Trump was...pretty hard not to be involved, if your at all the meetingsThink


not specifically Constitutionally barred, but it's a policy of the DOJ that seems to hold sway here, interpreting the Constitution's checks and balances with the objective to protect the POTUS from frivolous indictments that could tie up the executive branch...

he described each of their activities in the Mueller report, including contacts and meetings and lies about contacts and meetings with Russians, but concluded that there was insufficient evidence that they engaged in a criminal conspiracy...Mueller concluded that Trump's campaign members were aware that Russian government operatives were engaging in activities to interfere with the election, they were aware that the Russians wanted to help Trump win and cause Hillary to lose...

Mueller's Report concluded that Trump's campaign encouraged the Russians ("Russia, if you're listening") and wanted to work with them (if it's what you say it is, I love it) but their activities in furtherance of that objective didn't rise to the level of sufficient evidence of criminal conspiracy.
delta1 Offline
#79 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 6:57 PM EST
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teedubbya wrote:
Rmann here is an idea for you. Read the report. Lol.


Trump's peeps like to get their "facts" directly from the teats of Trump and his media...they don't need no stinkin truth...
frankj1 Offline
#80 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:12 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
So Mueller let Trump off the hook because he was Constitutionally barred from charging a sitting POTUS with a crime, why was his inner circle not charged?
Surely Ivanka, Don Jr., Jared Kushner, et al, would have been implicated somehow, in the conspiracy, obstruction, or collusion if Trump was...pretty hard not to be involved, if your at all the meetingsThink

as of March, 5 people involved in Trump's campaign and/or administration have been convicted, Roger Stone could make 6.
and close to 30 more (including Russian Nationalists and Russian Intelligence personnel) have not had their fates decided.

names like Manafort etc. are well known.
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#81 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:24 PM EST
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I had a massive post and my battery went dead...

C.R.A.P.

Mueller = FIRST DEGREE PREMEDITATED FELON MURDERER , IN CHARGE OF THE Secret Surviellence Group division for over a freakin' decade!!

I can only imagine how many innocent U.S.targeted individual citizens were killed under his direct oversite and direct knowledge...he is a murderer plain and simple...

WHY ON EARTH DO PEOPLE STAND BEHIND HIS TOTAL. UPSTANDING FACADE OF A REPUTATION???

IT BOGGLES MY MIND...

I KNOW FIRST HAND THE WRATH OF THE FBI
& THE FBI-SSG DIVISION AT ITS WORST...NO RULES...
NO REPERCUSSIONS FOR ANY CRIME THE COMMIT...

THEY ARE A TOTAL RUN AMOK MURDER SQUAD WITH GUNS AND BADGES....
frankj1 Offline
#82 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:30 PM EST
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but he's a Republican
RMAN4443 Offline
#83 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:35 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
not specifically Constitutionally barred, but it's a policy of the DOJ that seems to hold sway here, interpreting the Constitution's checks and balances with the objective to protect the POTUS from frivolous indictments that could tie up the executive branch...

he described each of their activities in the Mueller report, including contacts and meetings and lies about contacts and meetings with Russians, but concluded that there was insufficient evidence that they engaged in a criminal conspiracy...Mueller concluded that Trump's campaign members were aware that Russian government operatives were engaging in activities to interfere with the election, they were aware that the Russians wanted to help Trump win and cause Hillary to lose...

Mueller's Report concluded that Trump's campaign encouraged the Russians ("Russia, if you're listening") and wanted to work with them (if it's what you say it is, I love it) but their activities in furtherance of that objective didn't rise to the level of sufficient evidence of criminal conspiracy.

So your telling me that there is INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO CHARGE THEM that's why they were not charged...I gotcha.

Hilldog aND Obummer didn't know about the Russian activities either? Even though Hilldog had paid for the Steele dossier?...Thanks for clearing that up
frankj1 Offline
#84 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:51 PM EST
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RMAN4443 wrote:
So your telling me that there is INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY TO CHARGE THEM that's why they were not charged...I gotcha.

Hilldog aND Obummer didn't know about the Russian activities either? Even though Hilldog had paid for the Steele dossier?...Thanks for clearing that up

you should probably get the wording directly from Mueller. It won't make you as delighted as you are right now, but it's the uninterpreted version.

It also would inform the reasons for where and why the investigation went where it went, and it clearly ignored the dossier as a consideration. So at some point, folks gotta take that off the table.

Or find the 10 minute presentation Mueller made on TV.

Conspiracy, you might be correct. But there were a lot more words, and he said it was important to gather evidence while minds were still fresh, and it could be used in the future or by Congress...as an employee of the DoJ, he could only supply Congress with evidence for them to decide to pursue or not, but he also clearly restated he is not reporting that the POTUS is not guilty of obstruction as Barr announced erroneously.
teedubbya Offline
#85 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:54 PM EST
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Read the report
frankj1 Offline
#86 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 7:56 PM EST
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don't be mean to rman4443.
he's my friend.
DrafterX Offline
#87 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:05 PM EST
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Ya..!! Mad
frankj1 Offline
#88 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:07 PM EST
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YA!
teedubbya Offline
#89 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:10 PM EST
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I’m sorry
DrafterX Offline
#90 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:14 PM EST
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Laugh
teedubbya Offline
#91 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:30 PM EST
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My apology is accepted
RMAN4443 Offline
#92 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:42 PM EST
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Thank You...Anxious
Speyside Offline
#93 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 8:59 PM EST
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You're welcome.
frankj1 Offline
#94 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:03 PM EST
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I am at peace
DrafterX Offline
#95 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:36 PM EST
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Good to hear... ThumpUp


All kiddin aside tho, I do believe it was a bogus investigation and if he's found guilty of trying to obstruct the bogus investigation than so be it... But he was set up.. no doubt about that... Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#96 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:45 PM EST
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some of his peeps are in jail
teedubbya Offline
#97 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:47 PM EST
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Drafter you really should read it.
DrafterX Offline
#98 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:48 PM EST
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Yes they are.. how many of Hillary's peoples are still walking the streets after obstruction..?? Mellow
frankj1 Offline
#99 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:49 PM EST
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you didn't read any of it did you?
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#100 Posted: Thu, May 30 2019, 10:54 PM EST
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Playing the advocate... But still looking for the smoking gun.. Mellow
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