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Fantastic! Kudos to president Trump!

highly risky use of economic policy to (maybe) win a political position...

I’m so worn out from all this winning!

Best POTUS ever!

a deal's as good as the downside.

if the tariffs end(ed) up in place, the damage to American workers and consumers would have been yuuuuge.
Pretty sure GOP senators from the states that would have felt the pain the most were against it.

economic risk for marginal personal/political gain? should not use one to effect the other
economic policy is not a weapon
what if they call his bluff?

his upside vs our downside?.
pass.

Actually, if we didn't treat illegals as potential Democrats this wouldn't be an issue...

shhhh! you'll ruin my chances of winning.

They invented fireworks.. you'd think they'd perfected the rocket-dog...

good points X. I need you in my bi-partisan cabinet.

hey! is the op even true?

FoxNews, eh?
done deal.

See...

Frank I think this was more of Cheeto showing how little action there’s been from Congress (both parties at fault) with the boarder. It is a real issue for us and the illegals.

In related news I heard there was no obstruction and stuff before that silly report came out.

We don’t know the “deal”. The devil is in the detail especially with this carnival buffoon.

I hope we got a win but there is a history here of extreme dishonesty.

I’ll reserve judgement but admittedly doubt much of substance was accomplished. There is a pattern here for those that choose to see it. Most, not all, of the fake news comes from the little orange boy calling fake news.

“We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it”.

I get all the news I need to know on cbid forum.

It will take longer, but IMHO he will win with China. This IS a victory for him, and us. Now congress needs to work together and come up with a bill that will pay for the comprehensive border security needed.

maybe closer to zero action from Congress.
Both hate to lose their hot emotional button issue.

I'm just always wary of the ends justifying the means.

but it may have been in place prior to the threats, so I can accept dramatic manipulation if things end well, but if not the case, it's always a risk to bluff, unless it's with other (ours) people's money

It’s not hatred towards trump it’s awareness of his patterns and actions.

The difference is if you write it off to trump hatred you don’t have to think as opposed to be wary of what he says at the moment and moving past his proclamations to see what really happened. There is a long line of things he said that are untrue, certain folks accept it and don’t look back, but in the end prove less than accurate.

In this case I hope it is truthful. I hope we did get something and didn’t give up too much to get it. We will see. It’s pragmatic not hatred.

I don’t hate him I’m embarrassed by him and recognize him as a life long liar.

So did Romney and McCain and Mondale. Wgaf.

The British lost too.

We don’t and didn’t need him but you know what they say about opinions.

Interesting headline.

Mexico Agreed to Take Border Actions Months Before Trump Announced Tariff Deal


The rest of the article is even more interesting. I don’t know what’s true but this jives with what my gut was saying all along. The man is transparent if you take the time to look.

Then again Trump is the only truthful one and everyone else is filled with hate and stuff.

Is that like 'irregular migration'..??

Maybe neither a hater or pessimistic. Maybe they have an open mind and are actually watching from a fence post. And it looks like they might be right unfortunately.

This looks like some sort of deal was in place prior to the tariff shenanigans. It’s all a show. And much of what is being promised was done at one point in the bammy administration. It was done for awhile but was not sustainable. This appears to be a farce. That’s not to say some good may not come of it or even that I’m not rooting for good.

There is a pattern here. Present something in an inaccurate way and by the time the truth shows up a good number of folks will have moved on and never will know or care about the truth.

I truly home I’m wrong. But I also believed Barr’s letter describing the Mueller report. I took it at face value and decided it was time to move on. Untill I read the report myself and decided he was lying through his teeth. Fool me once fool me twice I want be fooled again. Trump does not deserve the benefit of the doubt. He’s the orange little boy who cries wolf.

But Russia.

Good post. It's OK to hate on Trump.
I'll buy the first beer.

I never said it won’t work if by it you mean Mexico’s actions. I also said I hope good comes from it.

I also didn’t twist or fabricate anything. You must have quoted the wrong person. As for tariffs, I’m not sure they were ever really on the table. But they may have been. None of us know at this point. It’s just the little orange boy cries wolf so much it’s hard to take what he says at face value.

And I wasn’t intending to call you out on anything. I just saw I was quoted and drew a correlation that evidently wasn’t there. Meh. Cool.

I dont like trump and am amazed at the willing wool pulled over folks eyes. Maybe that’s the same as accusing the opposite. It doesn’t feel like it but it’s worth a look.



Not you.... but I’m always amused at folks that will call me a fence post for not taking a position when it suits them and then claim I’ve got really strong hate or love that clouds my positions when that suites them. I’m actually amazed the number of times folks play that game rather than just being logical.

As for skin it’s never been an issue making fun of it as long as it’s white or off white.